I sold my Tiger 660 sports and now own a Voge 500dsx and I don't regret it, I was going to buy the Honda 500nx but it's boring and nothing compared to what you get with a Voge. My daughter and I go out for long rides, and it doesn't miss a beat, and as for the brakes, once they are bedded in, there is no drama, so another great review keep them coming 👍
These are a good bike, ready to go anywhere for those with the ability to ignore the noise about the brands from China - Voge are doing well, users i know all seem happy and the internet echoes this sentiment
Don't complain about the rain, it's preventing us from spontaneously combusting due to reaching the "tipping point of global boiling." It leaves 3 choices, don't ride, get soaked or pay more tax. I choose option 1 😆
Another great video, no fancy sunny exotic locations, just wet Yorkshire in summer! This is real-world testing. I would have thought that the Benelli bikes were the direct competition? The 702 with the free luggage possibly be the better option, I'm not sure if the 502 has the free luggage now. All of these bikes offer a lot for the money, especially if you plan to keep for a few years, thus avoiding the heavy initial depreciation .
Im actively waiting on the 800cc variant. Ill be buying 10 as they are going to be used for my bike tour company in the Andalucia region of Spain. Which im actively setting up as we speak.
I didn't know Voge did an 800 version, I own the 900 DSX it's broken the bike market here in Spain. Did you mean the KOVE 800 ? That looks a great bike at it's weight and it did well in the Paris Dakar. The 900DSX is unbelievable for the price. The sister of the BMW F900GS ✌️
Excellent review, I think the Voge and CF Moto have actually hit a chord here in Europe.... Yes the GS riders will turn there noses up... But reality says that in 5 years, these firms and there bikes will have a good chunk of the market.... Good cheap affordable bikes.... With as much quality as most other builders.
Another quality review Dave. You dont make it easy choosing a new bike! I thought I had made my choice and then you keep coming up with alternatives! Looking forward to a review of the new CFMoto 700MT if it is on your radar in the near future.
Thanks so much for getting soaked. Your videos are superb as usual and I always look forward to them sir. Interesting bike, these Chinese machines are getting better. I had a 2021 Benelli TRK 502 and the spec was excellent then but it was underpowered unfortunately. This year I have bought a new Honda NX500 and had to spend almost £7400 to get to the spec of this bike I tell you. I do love the NX as it's so light weight but I have to admit these bikes are very interesting if you need a smaller capacity ADV. The trouble is where I live in Worcestershire, I cannot find anybody supplying Voge or CFMOTO or any demo machines and this of course means issues with services etc unless you wish to do a very long ride!! If we had more dealers I would definately be up for a test ride on one of these. Thanks again for the superb video.
Originally offered at £5700 otr without luggage or £6200 with luggage. Both options available in Europe however Moto GB are now only bringing in the latter variant and making out your getting the luggage for free , not sure why they have done so I’m sure they would sell more at the lower price as not everyone wants luggage so why pay extra for it. Lovely bike thanks for the review 👍 well priced if a cash buyer however should you take the finance route that’s not the case due to stupendously high APR being offered by Moto GB making it a less attractive option.
Nice one! That's commitment! I rode the Voge ac525 x the other day. It was quite impressive but a little vibey for me! I like the model you have tested, I'll take a look. O'h! You get a 5 years garantia, (In europe, es) with conditions! Desde 95 €/mes* (monthly payment PCP 3 years) I could not see the mileage allowance per year Entrada: 849,30 € (Deposit) Última cuota: 3.111,49 € (Final payment)
For a long time, as the price of Chanel increased, I no longer thought I could afford it. I think I'll be happy that I have the kislux as my travel bag that I don't have to take care of. By the way, I'm sure no one will have a hard time telling the difference. Thanks for the comparison.
I saw these in a Ducati/Voge place in Jerez last month. It makes you think when you look at a loaded bike like this then the cost of a simple Ducati Scrambler. As ever though...l'd need more info before thinking of buying one with my own £. Parts supply for future is on my mind but also quality control, in a Triumph/Indian or BMW/Chinese collaboration they ensure their own European quality standards are employed in production. Their reputation is at stake. Another good video.
That lovely precipitation reminded me of similar conditions back in the 1960's on my 150-mile commute, but that was on a naked bike, as they all were back then... Don't you just love an English summer? Adverse conditions notwithstanding, thank you for the nice review. It's not a bike we get in Oz, but it looks very attractive, even more so at the asking price.
@@thebingleywheeler Would if I could, Dave, but it's a bit like yours at the moment. Still, it is mid-winter, after all. Temps were 9 /17C today, 9/20C and cloudy tomorrow, no rain until next Wednesday. Life's tough... 😊
Great review Dave. Royal Enfield needs to step up their game because the Chinese bikes are taking over. That engine sounds great and you get a lot more features as standard equipment. To me the RE engines are too unrefined compared to other makes. That bike makes about the same power as the standard 650 RE engine and the Voge is only 525cc. I'd choose the Voge or a CFMoto over any RE any day. My opinion, my choice. Thanks Dave for taking it on the chin riding in the rain for us. Ride safe. Cheers
@@thebingleywheeler it took a while for me to gel with it, I was so used to the smoothness of the Vstrom I had , but boy is it a sweet ride now we have covered 2500 kms.
Just ordered one in blue to add to the fleet of yamaha fazer 1000 and ducati monster . Only niggle might be highly reflective screen on lcd display but a non reflective screen protector will sort that . Cracking bike at cracking price .
We have met at patley bridge , I’ve bought this model I’d agree with you regarding the brakes , I’m not bothered about certain functions , such as auto blipper ( whatever that is), quick shifter cruise control , heated grips ect ect but I would have liked self cancelling indicators , the instrument cluster is not tft it’s lcd , and as you’ve mentioned you have use the app to use the dash cam ( no information in online manual ) as someone has mentioned service intervals are every 6000 km and are under £200.00
With so much European investment, as mentioned so many European bike are now being made in China. Therefore the quality has improved significantly, they can now use the knowledge to improve their own bikes and offer them at a lower price.
Interesting video very nice looking 👀 bike very nicely styled but still in me Chinese I’m still sceptical I know other stuff I’ve bought that’s Chinese is so much crap but a few more years yet before I’d looked at a Chinese motorcycle I’m afraid I think parts can be a problem as in delivery time I think I heard from a u-tuber time will tell great video and run down on the bike but not for me even if they do make engines for bmw I’d rather buy a RE than one of these because I do like them take care ride safe
Always enjoy your reviews Not my kind of bike but a good watch Neither snow nor rain or heat or gloom of night Is the postman’s Moto Seems very close to what you do Looks like you a bit beat up on this review Thanks for the ride along Regards from Florida
The Japanese motorcycle industry has had it good for the last 50 odd years they did things cheaper and better than the uk bike industry and then eventually mopped up , unfortunately for Japan those days are coming to a end . Chinese are doing things cheaper and better as what happened before .
I see you were out in global warming weather again, what a summer. Personally this type of bike isn't on my radar whoever makes it, but i did enjoy the video, as always.
Sweeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeet! I envy you the massive amount of choices you've got over there! Thank you for an excellent review, sir! These Adventure Motorbikes are the new Touring Rigs! SS in commiefornia USA
496cc,so why is called a 525? I like the way the seat seems to really thin off at the front so short legged folk like me can get their legs down better, that's one of the down sides with the CFMoto 800mt I bought, the seat is quite wide at the front, 2" wider than my GS at the front.
You only find out if your waterproofs are any good when it is too late 😮, riding in wet undies is one of the many things every motorcyclist experiences at some time.
I think of Chinese bikes like Chinese phones. I've had a good number of Chinese phones over the years. Very cheap and very nearly as good as phones costing 8 times the price. In some areas they are actually better than the competition. The only downside it's when something goes wrong then you have no back up, they are disposable effectively. The current lot of Chinese bikes seem very good but once those warranties are expired then what? Would you be able for example to order master cylinder re build kits or caliper seals or a fuel pump, the list goes on. I think with the CF Moto brand you'd probably be ok because of KTM but these other brands..I don't know.
All modern motorcycles should have hydraulic valve adjustment so you don't have to service the bike expensively at the dealer and they should all have belt drive instead of chain drive because belt drives last $100,000 mi plus with no maintenance
I took one out and thought that it was an excellent bike. I was about to buy one until I found out that it needs servicing every 3000 miles. I asked the dealer how much the servicing will be and he said around £250. I do around 6000 miles a year, so it would be an extra £500 annually! That was a deal breaker, so it didn't happen. They said that the servicing intervals aren't determined by the manufacturers, but the importers. I think that it'll put many people, off.
Honda says 12000km, but still dealers do on 5000km if you use bike properly. The middle range on every bike is 5k ducati multistrada says 21000km, but still you see them on 5000km in regular service 😂 today consumables are like mobile phones same s... different packages
Dealer I visited today quoted 6000 mile service intervals. Wondering how it will compare with my F750GS, i don't want to change then struggle for Motorway use. Its certainly a lot easier to get on the centre stand. Unfortunately no demo model on Dealers close to me. Any comments from anyone that has ridden one?
I have to say that those luggage rails, while functional are bloody ugly things when there is no actual luggage fitted, makes the bike look like a scaffolders nightmare 😮
There will always be a niche of people who just must have the most expensive bikes, accessories, riding gear etc. and so companies like BMW, Klim et al will continue to make their living from them.
When it comes to vehicles; there's cheap, good and high tech. You can have two of the three. High tech and cheap is a recipe for future disaster. The only way to build complex machinery down to a price is to sacrifice quality.
It seems that many modern motorcycles have service intervals that are designed to be money makers for the dealers and not to be do-it-yourself friendly. I don't want to pay double for a motorcycle because of expensive dealer services. I'd rather service my motorcycle in my driveway that pay a dealer to do it. You don't save money paying a dealer to service your motorcycle.
Why do all manufacturers insist on putting unnecessary, unwanted, overpriced electronic gimmicks on bikes? We just want engine, wheels, seat, bars and some decent weather!
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Impressive bike excellent review and spot on with the fact that the Chinese are doing exactly what the Japanese did in days gone by . 👌👍
I sold my Tiger 660 sports and now own a Voge 500dsx and I don't regret it, I was going to buy the Honda 500nx but it's boring and nothing compared to what you get with a Voge. My daughter and I go out for long rides, and it doesn't miss a beat, and as for the brakes, once they are bedded in, there is no drama, so another great review keep them coming 👍
Thanks for taking one for the motorcycling community! Summertime and the livin' is easy...!
Established brands like to reserve electronic features for high end models. Great to see an entry level bike packed with bits and bobs.
Thank you for the review. I believe I’m off to Appleyards today.
These are a good bike, ready to go anywhere for those with the ability to ignore the noise about the brands from China - Voge are doing well, users i know all seem happy and the internet echoes this sentiment
Don't complain about the rain, it's preventing us from spontaneously combusting due to reaching the "tipping point of global boiling."
It leaves 3 choices, don't ride, get soaked or pay more tax. I choose option 1 😆
That is some proper riding weather!~Great Video!!
Another great video, no fancy sunny exotic locations, just wet Yorkshire in summer! This is real-world testing. I would have thought that the Benelli bikes were the direct competition? The 702 with the free luggage possibly be the better option, I'm not sure if the 502 has the free luggage now. All of these bikes offer a lot for the money, especially if you plan to keep for a few years, thus avoiding the heavy initial depreciation .
Yes agreed…..the Benelli though lacks crash bars and spotlights as standard but otherwise a good comparison
Im actively waiting on the 800cc variant.
Ill be buying 10 as they are going to be used for my bike tour company in the Andalucia region of Spain.
Which im actively setting up as we speak.
I didn't know Voge did an 800 version, I own the 900 DSX it's broken the bike market here in Spain. Did you mean the KOVE 800 ? That looks a great bike at it's weight and it did well in the Paris Dakar. The 900DSX is unbelievable for the price. The sister of the BMW F900GS ✌️
I’d love to hear how you progress with you’re bike tour company as I’d be very interested 👍🏻
Ah, that lovely feeling as rain water makes first contact with one’s goolies.
Hell yeah😖🤬
I bought mine from Appleyards last month and I love it, first service on Monday hopefully in time for our summer 😂
Excellent review,
I think the Voge and CF Moto have actually hit a chord here in Europe....
Yes the GS riders will turn there noses up... But reality says that in 5 years, these firms and there bikes will have a good chunk of the market....
Good cheap affordable bikes....
With as much quality as most other builders.
Sounds almost too good to be true. Wishing them and all motorcycle makers luck in today's world.
Another quality review Dave. You dont make it easy choosing a new bike! I thought I had made my choice and then you keep coming up with alternatives! Looking forward to a review of the new CFMoto 700MT if it is on your radar in the near future.
Thanks so much for getting soaked. Your videos are superb as usual and I always look forward to them sir. Interesting bike, these Chinese machines are getting better. I had a 2021 Benelli TRK 502 and the spec was excellent then but it was underpowered unfortunately. This year I have bought a new Honda NX500 and had to spend almost £7400 to get to the spec of this bike I tell you. I do love the NX as it's so light weight but I have to admit these bikes are very interesting if you need a smaller capacity ADV. The trouble is where I live in Worcestershire, I cannot find anybody supplying Voge or CFMOTO or any demo machines and this of course means issues with services etc unless you wish to do a very long ride!! If we had more dealers I would definately be up for a test ride on one of these. Thanks again for the superb video.
Thank you for those kind comments. I’m sure that the number of dealerships will steadily grow
Fantastic review Dave - thanks 😊
Great review, what is not to like apart from the weather, I did much the same run a couple of hours later in warm sunshine 😂
Originally offered at £5700 otr without luggage or £6200 with luggage. Both options available in Europe however Moto GB are now only bringing in the latter variant and making out your getting the luggage for free , not sure why they have done so I’m sure they would sell more at the lower price as not everyone wants luggage so why pay extra for it. Lovely bike thanks for the review 👍 well priced if a cash buyer however should you take the finance route that’s not the case due to stupendously high APR being offered by Moto GB making it a less attractive option.
Wasn't the 1st model a single cylinder.
Nice one! That's commitment! I rode the Voge ac525 x the other day. It was quite impressive but a little vibey for me! I like the model you have tested, I'll take a look. O'h! You get a 5 years garantia, (In europe, es) with conditions!
Desde 95 €/mes* (monthly payment PCP 3 years) I could not see the mileage allowance per year
Entrada: 849,30 € (Deposit)
Última cuota: 3.111,49 € (Final payment)
For a long time, as the price of Chanel increased, I no longer thought I could afford it. I think I'll be happy that I have the kislux as my travel bag that I don't have to take care of. By the way, I'm sure no one will have a hard time telling the difference. Thanks for the comparison.
Agreed entirely….if only blind comparative testing were an option for motorcycles it would throw up some interesting results 😉
I saw these in a Ducati/Voge place in Jerez last month. It makes you think when you look at a loaded bike like this then the cost of a simple Ducati Scrambler. As ever though...l'd need more info before thinking of buying one with my own £. Parts supply for future is on my mind but also quality control, in a Triumph/Indian or BMW/Chinese collaboration they ensure their own European quality standards are employed in production. Their reputation is at stake. Another good video.
That lovely precipitation reminded me of similar conditions back in the 1960's on my 150-mile commute, but that was on a naked bike, as they all were back then... Don't you just love an English summer? Adverse conditions notwithstanding, thank you for the nice review. It's not a bike we get in Oz, but it looks very attractive, even more so at the asking price.
Cheers Chris send us some Oz weather pretty please 🙏
@@thebingleywheeler Would if I could, Dave, but it's a bit like yours at the moment. Still, it is mid-winter, after all. Temps were 9 /17C today, 9/20C and cloudy tomorrow, no rain until next Wednesday. Life's tough... 😊
Great vid Mate. It’s doing the same as its bigger brother (making waves) . nice looker too.
Cheers pal yes I was surprised at the poke for a 500 👍🏻
Great review Dave. Royal Enfield needs to step up their game because the Chinese bikes are taking over. That engine sounds great and you get a lot more features as standard equipment. To me the RE engines are too unrefined compared to other makes. That bike makes about the same power as the standard 650 RE engine and the Voge is only 525cc. I'd choose the Voge or a CFMoto over any RE any day. My opinion, my choice. Thanks Dave for taking it on the chin riding in the rain for us. Ride safe. Cheers
Cheers Rick great points there pal
@@thebingleywheeler Sorry if I sounded negative. Going through a rough patch right now. Things will get better bud. Ride safe. Cheers
Hope things improve for you soon buddy
Wait untill you try the BMW based DSX 900 you will be gobsmacked at the spec and price, great video✌️
I eagerly await it 😊👍🏻
@@thebingleywheeler it took a while for me to gel with it, I was so used to the smoothness of the Vstrom I had , but boy is it a sweet ride now we have covered 2500 kms.
Yes saw your video….very informative thank you 👍🏻
Just ordered one in blue to add to the fleet of yamaha fazer 1000 and ducati monster . Only niggle might be highly reflective screen on lcd display but a non reflective screen protector will sort that . Cracking bike at cracking price .
Good Morning Dave , for the price can't beat it mate , great video sorry you got wet , take care
Thanks Steve I’ve dried out now 😎👍🏻
Thanks for your excellent review...
Nice to see someone look at this, it’s a new name to me. Small point but that screen isn’t a TFT , it’s an LCD.
Well done that lad!
Looks a very good bike. Nick
We have met at patley bridge , I’ve bought this model I’d agree with you regarding the brakes , I’m not bothered about certain functions , such as auto blipper ( whatever that is), quick shifter cruise control , heated grips ect ect but I would have liked self cancelling indicators , the instrument cluster is not tft it’s lcd , and as you’ve mentioned you have use the app to use the dash cam ( no information in online manual ) as someone has mentioned service intervals are every 6000 km and are under £200.00
Why are these bikes so short on the service intervals at 3000 miles, personally it's a bit weird
6000 Kms is more 4000 miles. So not that bad.@@kevindarkstar
@@jasonhoward9029 3700 in fact, but still short by industry norms
Yes I remember Stephen nice to meet you 👍🏻
With so much European investment, as mentioned so many European bike are now being made in China. Therefore the quality has improved significantly, they can now use the knowledge to improve their own bikes and offer them at a lower price.
Interesting video very nice looking 👀 bike very nicely styled but still in me Chinese I’m still sceptical I know other stuff I’ve bought that’s Chinese is so much crap but a few more years yet before I’d looked at a Chinese motorcycle I’m afraid I think parts can be a problem as in delivery time I think I heard from a u-tuber time will tell great video and run down on the bike but not for me even if they do make engines for bmw I’d rather buy a RE than one of these because I do like them take care ride safe
saw this bike at Route 59 cafe today as i stopped for a cuppa whilst working tidy looking bike
For small amount of money this is perfect many chinese bikes now with cfmoto and voge probably one of the better
Always enjoy your reviews
Not my kind of bike but a good watch
Neither snow nor rain or heat or gloom of night
Is the postman’s Moto
Seems very close to what you do
Looks like you a bit beat up on this review
Thanks for the ride along
Regards from Florida
Cheers John send us some Florida sunshine eh 🙏
Bathing my pickles, priceless!😂😂
The Japanese motorcycle industry has had it good for the last 50 odd years they did things cheaper and better than the uk bike industry and then eventually mopped up , unfortunately for Japan those days are coming to a end .
Chinese are doing things cheaper and better as what happened before .
The of Japanese bikes now is eye watering.... I just can't see the money in the products they offer....
I see you were out in global warming weather again, what a summer. Personally this type of bike isn't on my radar whoever makes it, but i did enjoy the video, as always.
TBW, I definitely can't believe your summer is like this! It's completely outrageous. I bet you're not looking forward to winter!
It’s been a full year of rain now….started June last year and hasn’t stopped since
Sweeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeet! I envy you the massive amount of choices you've got over there! Thank you for an excellent review, sir!
These Adventure Motorbikes are the new Touring Rigs!
SS in commiefornia USA
can't think of anything better for all weather commuter use , or value ;
you’re literally my comfort person i love you kislux !
496cc,so why is called a 525? I like the way the seat seems to really thin off at the front so short legged folk like me can get their legs down better, that's one of the down sides with the CFMoto 800mt I bought, the seat is quite wide at the front, 2" wider than my GS at the front.
Those front brakes look like axially mounted not radial.
You only find out if your waterproofs are any good when it is too late 😮, riding in wet undies is one of the many things every motorcyclist experiences at some time.
👍👍👍👍
I think of Chinese bikes like Chinese phones. I've had a good number of Chinese phones over the years. Very cheap and very nearly as good as phones costing 8 times the price. In some areas they are actually better than the competition. The only downside it's when something goes wrong then you have no back up, they are disposable effectively. The current lot of Chinese bikes seem very good but once those warranties are expired then what? Would you be able for example to order master cylinder re build kits or caliper seals or a fuel pump, the list goes on. I think with the CF Moto brand you'd probably be ok because of KTM but these other brands..I don't know.
I'm not 100 percent but I do believe all voge engine designs are basedt by licence from Honda....
Yes it’s a derivative of the Honda 500
Would you recommend it for a long trip over 3k like? Not harsh trip but long
Absolutely yes I would 👍🏻
@@thebingleywheeler in other words from Tenerife to Italy!
It's only a bit of rain man! You're not made of sugar get on with it. lol. Looks like I might have to look at this, whens the bigger engine out.
Might not be made of sugar, but sugar doesn't feel uncomfortable when ya plums are cold and wet 😮
I’ll let you know when the 900 lands 👍🏻
Pickle bathing, that’s all I heard 😂
Benelli ?
Suffering for your art dave . lol
As always buddy 😎
11:49 I beg to differ there, you are soaked lad, just looking at the front of your jacket 😂
Aye but upper body bone dry thanks to that now 6 year old Merlin wax cotton jacket!
@@thebingleywheeler ha ha ha great to hear, the outside certainly looked drenched 🚿
10:37 nice to see you taking advantage of the global warming there Dave 😉
All modern motorcycles should have hydraulic valve adjustment so you don't have to service the bike expensively at the dealer and they should all have belt drive instead of chain drive because belt drives last $100,000 mi plus with no maintenance
Never heard of this brand but looks very much like GS BMW
Yes. The 500cc BMW NEVER made. Barstards.....
Why does nobody say Kayaba abymore ?
Because they dropped the name when they re-branded the corporation in 2015, try to keep up.
I took one out and thought that it was an excellent bike. I was about to buy one until I found out that it needs servicing every 3000 miles. I asked the dealer how much the servicing will be and he said around £250. I do around 6000 miles a year, so it would be an extra £500 annually! That was a deal breaker, so it didn't happen. They said that the servicing intervals aren't determined by the manufacturers, but the importers. I think that it'll put many people, off.
The services are actually 4000 miles, but will still be a dealbreaker for a lot of folk
Honda says 12000km, but still dealers do on 5000km if you use bike properly. The middle range on every bike is 5k ducati multistrada says 21000km, but still you see them on 5000km in regular service 😂 today consumables are like mobile phones same s... different packages
Top review from a typical British biker. Fed up of people scooting around foreign parts on perfect days. Subscribed.
Many thanks for subscribing Philip very much appreciated 👍🏻
Depreciation will be a killer .
Looks like they thought an awful lot about the GS1200 in terms of design....
rather you than me in those harsh conditions ,
Service intervals????
3000 🤷🏻♂️
If you want to be precise it’s 3728 miles but Motogb say 4000
@@richardcheetham4102 yeah agreed, still in my opinion that's below industry standard, but it is what it is 🤷🏻♂️
Dealer I visited today quoted 6000 mile service intervals. Wondering how it will compare with my F750GS, i don't want to change then struggle for Motorway use. Its certainly a lot easier to get on the centre stand. Unfortunately no demo model on Dealers close to me.
Any comments from anyone that has ridden one?
@@mickmacman mine sits comfortably at 75 mph on the motorway
12:45 cold wet plums huh 😂
Nothing worse than a soggy crotch 😂👍🏍🇬🇧 great bike great review.
Depends whose it is. As Tara Fitzgerald said in that Welsh mountain film. Everything looks better when it's wet 😊
I have to say that those luggage rails, while functional are bloody ugly things when there is no actual luggage fitted, makes the bike look like a scaffolders nightmare 😮
so why pay over 3 times as much for a GS, think BMW days are coming to an end, well done.
There will always be a niche of people who just must have the most expensive bikes, accessories, riding gear etc. and so companies like BMW, Klim et al will continue to make their living from them.
I've said it before I'll say it again pragmatism always out does idealism Chinese bikes are here to stay!
When it comes to vehicles; there's cheap, good and high tech. You can have two of the three. High tech and cheap is a recipe for future disaster. The only way to build complex machinery down to a price is to sacrifice quality.
It seems that many modern motorcycles have service intervals that are designed to be money makers for the dealers and not to be do-it-yourself friendly. I don't want to pay double for a motorcycle because of expensive dealer services. I'd rather service my motorcycle in my driveway that pay a dealer to do it. You don't save money paying a dealer to service your motorcycle.
Wouldnt buy a Chinese motorcycle no matter how cheap. I have pride in the bikes I own.
So do I…and I have pride in my CF Moto 👍🏻
Why do all manufacturers insist on putting unnecessary, unwanted, overpriced electronic gimmicks on bikes?
We just want engine, wheels, seat, bars and some decent weather!