I learned alot about the Ju87 watching this. I like the evasive maneuver of mirroring the turns of the attacking fighter allowing the stinger to get some shots at the attacking fighter at 6 o'clock. Pretty cool.
The Mediterranean theater during ww2 was great showcase for the ju 87 stuka because there was limited allied fighter oppostion and the stuka could take advantage of the dive bomber role it was designed for, stukas attacked and sunk many British ships here, way more than at Dunkirk in France during 1940, stukas also assisted bombing the islands of Crete and Malta, this was probably the stukas finest hour during ww2 with many successful bombing attacks
I imagine the Stukas on a normal mission would have had fighters assigned to provide top cover. Attack the Stukas and a 109 would be on your tail. Tactic for a Stuka was to turn a tight circle at near ground level that no fighter could follow. The rear gunner then could attack the fighter. When this was a twin MG81Z there could be 2700 rounds coming back out.
Absolutely terrible performance by team RAF. Attacking bombers from 6 o’clock level is exactly what defensive gunners hope for when they’re under attack.
German Bombers had terrible defenses, so an approach from behind is not as suicidal as against allied bombers. What puzzles me is: He 111 had only light machine guns for defense, as had Ju 87. How is the pilot snipes where so easy? Did the allied fighters have no armoured windscreen?
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That has to be a very terrifying sight seeing four Stukas in a diamond formation diving down knowing that at least one set of bombs is aimed at your ship, made all the more terrifying with those Jericho Sirens wailing. How many ships were sunk by them alone?
Actually, the Stukas should not have been using the sirens. All they do is warn the ship below to start evasive maneuvers. Also, the siren imposes drag, and makes the Stuka even slower.
@@Squee7e : A near miss is preferable to a direct hit, and at 15 knots, a tight turn can throw off a Stuka's aim just enough to make the difference. (The ship AI in IL-2 1946 doesn't take any evasive action at all, or even speed up.)
Heinkel he 111s had success also in Mediterranean during ww2, they bombed Crete Malta, and some were modified as torpedo bombers against British ships, however allied fighter opposition continued to be problem
Axis aircraft on German and Italian sides wore white theatre bands in north Africa and Mediterranean during ww2, later in Russia on the eastern front, axis aircraft including the Germans, Italians, Romanians, Hungarians, etc wore yellow theatre bands
Just discovered this game. what fun! I'm very impressed about the detail and authenticity. Terrain, gauges, pilot error, luck, accuracy - it all plays a part. What interesting computer times we live in. what do I need to play this game?
Awesome torpedo drops in the end! But is the drop height realistic? They were falling for quite some time, might have been quite an impact on the water.
Jo, seit 4.11 wird die Abwurfhöhe und Geschwindigkeit bei Torpedos berücksichtigt. Diese LT F5W Torpedos sind relativ späte Modelle und sollen bei 300 km/h in 100 Metern Höhe abgeworfen werden. Die älteren LT F5b z.B. müssen aus 40 Metern Höhe, bei 250 km/h abgeworfen werden. Wenn man das versaut kommt eine Nachricht: "Torpedo falsch eingetaucht" und die gehen dann auch kaputt.
Highpoints for ju 87 stuka during ww2 was Poland france, Balkans, Mediterranean, and Russia, stuka low point was the battle of Britain during 1940 where many were shot down by RAF spitfires, the ju 87 stuka was great German dive bomber in combat situations with limited or no allied fighter opposition, the aircraft had poor speed and manueverability
Hello I have a general IL 2 question in regard to beginner. I feel like I’m just floundering around and not building a foundation for flying. I can take off and land (rough) but if I’m not flying level and in a gentle turn I crash , a lot. Is there a step by step process I should take to actually get to proficient? TIA
pls do Sealion cooperative mission with MFP ships on th beach and ZG Bf-110 units shooting everything while Pz III and IVs are having tank battle to get out of the beach
The bombs would have a direct impact fuse with a short delay and a long delay of a few seconds for water impacts. In the “turnip planting method” used typically by Ju 88 or Me 109 the Bomb was aimed ahead of the waterline. The time delay was about 5.3 seconds and would ensure the bomb sank about 60ft and detonated directly under the ship. This would often break the ship in two if not burst plates so much the ship sank. With the Stuvi 5B bombsight and the BZA Computer the Pilot got a reticle moving as a continuous impact point. A good crew could enter a dive at 8000ft, pullout by 5000ft at 400mph and get consistently within a few meters of target. Fighters had a second adjustable reticle on the revi. You aimed at the ship, then pulled up till the second pre adjusted reticle crossed and then released the bomb. The planed attack profile had to be calculated from tables and entered into the sight. German fighters were supposed to get the TSA2D toss bombing sight. You dived onto the target lined up with the gunsight. The sight had data from airspeed, cross wind, altimeter, variometer and FuG 101a radar altimeter if available and an pull-up accelerometer. When you pulled up the bombsight released the bomb in the correct arc. Was used on some KG7 and KG51 Me 262A2 bomber jets. This sight was also meant to be used for the BT series bombs eg BT400, BT1000 that tunneled the water and detonated by a twin coil metal detector proximity fuse.
@@somewhatsarcasticsticker2077 Nope not automatic airbrake, airbrakes were on already when the pilot entered the dive, it had automatic pull up mechanism if the pilot wouldn't pull up after dropping bombs (pilot unconscious)
No. A sunk merchant ship is worth considerably more than a lost Ju 87. And a sunk battleship is worth tremendously more than half a dozen lost He 111's.
@@timonsolus It takes 20+ years to "grow" a pilot. While your analysis is true in cold numbers, it's the same mistake the Japanese made where they sacrificed many SKILLED pilots on such short term thinking, leading to a shortage of SKILLED pilots later in the war. When those unskilled pilots of Japan were later employed in the aircraft they were ineffective (got lost, got shot down, missed targets) and mission accomplishment was severely degraded. I hope you take my point.
@@timonsolus That's an interesting philosophical point. Meanwhile - when nations are at war, you want to not lose your experienced war fighters. It takes a LONG time to train a pilot - the US program is almost 3 years before the raw recruit is a basic qualified pilot.
@@StevenMRA : Well, to the Japanese in WW2, honour was more important than victory, and fighting was more important than winning. With that mindset, taking an experienced pilot away from his unit and away from the fighting, denying him future glory, was considered dishonourable, so it wasn’t done without a good medical reason. The Japanese did send experienced pilots home to train new replacements - but usually after they had been seriously wounded, or become ill enough to require a long break from the front. Or, more rarely, after they had been promoted, and there wasn’t a space for them in their current unit at their new rank.
Is this based on any particular historical convoy? Where are all the carrier fighters? You have Seafires, but no Fulmars, Sea Hurricanes (the Hurricanes in this video appear to be regular ones without arresting gear), or Martlets. The flak also seems unusually light considering the presence of a number of destroyers, cruisers and at least one battleship protecting the convoy.
No it isn't, I simply put a bunch of ships. I think it does not really matter if I use Beaufighters, Seafires and Hurricanes or Fulmars and Sea Hurricanes. The Flak is light because of two reasons: A lot of it isn't displayed in replays and it's lighter in HSFX anyway. As always in IL-2, you can either have a lot of different ship types with HSFX OR impressive AA fire. Also, the game sucks at displaying AA fire, it quickly degrades the FPS.
@@Fishyyy The simultaneous Operation Harpoon and Operation Vigorous convoys of June 1942 might be good subject matter for a future video or several videos. th-cam.com/video/ZGJZJ6ldYMw/w-d-xo.html
I think those german turrets have way to much RoF here than in RL like every shot in game was a tracer like round while in RL every 5 rounds was a tracer
@@aurorathearcticwolf4243 The MG-81 rate of fire was 1400-1600 rounds per minute, so it would be 2800-3200 rpm for this double mount. That's a lot of firepower (even if the projectiles are only rifle-calibre). Much better to avoid the effects of such a weapon by ducking under the tail of a Stuka to fire up into its unprotected underside.
I learned alot about the Ju87 watching this. I like the evasive maneuver of mirroring the turns of the attacking fighter allowing the stinger to get some shots at the attacking fighter at 6 o'clock. Pretty cool.
The Mediterranean theater during ww2 was great showcase for the ju 87 stuka because there was limited allied fighter oppostion and the stuka could take advantage of the dive bomber role it was designed for, stukas attacked and sunk many British ships here, way more than at Dunkirk in France during 1940, stukas also assisted bombing the islands of Crete and Malta, this was probably the stukas finest hour during ww2 with many successful bombing attacks
I imagine the Stukas on a normal mission would have had fighters assigned to provide top cover. Attack the Stukas and a 109 would be on your tail. Tactic for a Stuka was to turn a tight circle at near ground level that no fighter could follow. The rear gunner then could attack the fighter. When this was a twin MG81Z there could be 2700 rounds coming back out.
they still lost the Battle of the Mediterranean though and failed to win in Malta.
@@LordGeorgeRodney Really?
@@hanspalzberger4649 yes.
Absolutely terrible performance by team RAF. Attacking bombers from 6 o’clock level is exactly what defensive gunners hope for when they’re under attack.
losses still happen without escorts
German Bombers had terrible defenses, so an approach from behind is not as suicidal as against allied bombers.
What puzzles me is:
He 111 had only light machine guns for defense, as had Ju 87. How is the pilot snipes where so easy? Did the allied fighters have no armoured windscreen?
The KG 81Z is the WW2 M61
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that was quite interesting to watch. it must of been rough in those HE111 getting pelted with bullets.
The Beaufighter also had 4 20mm Hispano Mk II cannons in the nose
The great advantage of the Stuka was the slow flying ability, watch the enemy fighter and at the right moment slow down and slip sideways.
I think the marksmanship of both sides was much better than in real life.
That has to be a very terrifying sight seeing four Stukas in a diamond formation diving down knowing that at least one set of bombs is aimed at your ship, made all the more terrifying with those Jericho Sirens wailing. How many ships were sunk by them alone?
Actually, the Stukas should not have been using the sirens. All they do is warn the ship below to start evasive maneuvers. Also, the siren imposes drag, and makes the Stuka even slower.
@@timonsolus good luck with evading a dive bomber with a cargo ship
@@Squee7e : A near miss is preferable to a direct hit, and at 15 knots, a tight turn can throw off a Stuka's aim just enough to make the difference.
(The ship AI in IL-2 1946 doesn't take any evasive action at all, or even speed up.)
After watching this video I have come to the conclusion that my head is a bullet magnet.
Heinkel he 111s had success also in Mediterranean during ww2, they bombed Crete Malta, and some were modified as torpedo bombers against British ships, however allied fighter opposition continued to be problem
Axis aircraft on German and Italian sides wore white theatre bands in north Africa and Mediterranean during ww2, later in Russia on the eastern front, axis aircraft including the Germans, Italians, Romanians, Hungarians, etc wore yellow theatre bands
Love the videos Fishyyy! Keep them coming!
Just discovered this game. what fun! I'm very impressed about the detail and authenticity. Terrain, gauges, pilot error, luck, accuracy - it all plays a part. What interesting computer times we live in. what do I need to play this game?
Hi, you can get that game in Steam. IL2 1946.
I play that game in my notebook.
Better late, then never. Even 18 years late! :-)
about time,found 1 who streams this game ;-]
Awesome torpedo drops in the end! But is the drop height realistic? They were falling for quite some time, might have been quite an impact on the water.
Jo, seit 4.11 wird die Abwurfhöhe und Geschwindigkeit bei Torpedos berücksichtigt. Diese LT F5W Torpedos sind relativ späte Modelle und sollen bei 300 km/h in 100 Metern Höhe abgeworfen werden. Die älteren LT F5b z.B. müssen aus 40 Metern Höhe, bei 250 km/h abgeworfen werden. Wenn man das versaut kommt eine Nachricht: "Torpedo falsch eingetaucht" und die gehen dann auch kaputt.
Rühmen ist
Lol that spitty pilot tail sitting needs to re think his tactics!
Highpoints for ju 87 stuka during ww2 was Poland france, Balkans, Mediterranean, and Russia, stuka low point was the battle of Britain during 1940 where many were shot down by RAF spitfires, the ju 87 stuka was great German dive bomber in combat situations with limited or no allied fighter opposition, the aircraft had poor speed and manueverability
This also has a strong reference to the WW2 board game called Wolf Pack. 🐺
Can you do so a mission with 1946 planes? Like the bomberformation vs Ta-183 or Mig-9.
Hello I have a general IL 2 question in regard to beginner. I feel like I’m just floundering around and not building a foundation for flying. I can take off and land (rough) but if I’m not flying level and in a gentle turn I crash , a lot. Is there a step by step process I should take to actually get to proficient? TIA
pls do Sealion cooperative mission with MFP ships on th beach and ZG Bf-110 units shooting everything while Pz III and IVs are having tank battle to get out of the beach
I would play this game but i cant get passed the UI. It wont let me bind my joystick controls at all
Would one of those bomb blasts 5-10m away do any harm to the ship? Would the hull get some cracks from bomb explosions that close to a ship?
The bombs would have a direct impact fuse with a short delay and a long delay of a few seconds for water impacts. In the “turnip planting method” used typically by Ju 88 or Me 109 the Bomb was aimed ahead of the waterline. The time delay was about 5.3 seconds and would ensure the bomb sank about 60ft and detonated directly under the ship. This would often break the ship in two if not burst plates so much the ship sank. With the Stuvi 5B bombsight and the BZA Computer the Pilot got a reticle moving as a continuous impact point. A good crew could enter a dive at 8000ft, pullout by 5000ft at 400mph and get consistently within a few meters of target. Fighters had a second adjustable reticle on the revi. You aimed at the ship, then pulled up till the second pre adjusted reticle crossed and then released the bomb. The planed attack profile had to be calculated from tables and entered into the sight. German fighters were supposed to get the TSA2D toss bombing sight. You dived onto the target lined up with the gunsight. The sight had data from airspeed, cross wind, altimeter, variometer and FuG 101a radar altimeter if available and an pull-up accelerometer. When you pulled up the bombsight released the bomb in the correct arc. Was used on some KG7 and KG51 Me 262A2 bomber jets. This sight was also meant to be used for the BT series bombs eg BT400, BT1000 that tunneled the water and detonated by a twin coil metal detector proximity fuse.
How could someone get into contact with you to play with you?
Contact info is always in the descriptions :)
please how i can play with you :D
Is this Sturmovic? I had this game on pc, it came with Locked On in the same case.
how do you play multiplayer? (LAN)
Has a list of the servers on internet. The missions that Fishyy play is Lan with friends.
But the serves are a good option to multiplayer.
Fishyyy what recording capture do you use please?
Esos artilleros dan miedo 👏👏👏
use to play cliffs of dover.just not many players.dosent help living in australia.best ww2 sim out there
What happens when the screen goes black? Was the pilot killed?
yeah
Yea
The Ju-87 had an automatic system in that case.
No, It had automatic airbrakes if the pilot were to pass out in high-G moves. Not autopilot. That stuff was still far away.
@@somewhatsarcasticsticker2077 Nope not automatic airbrake, airbrakes were on already when the pilot entered the dive, it had automatic pull up mechanism if the pilot wouldn't pull up after dropping bombs (pilot unconscious)
Is that what you'd call a pyric victory?
No. A sunk merchant ship is worth considerably more than a lost Ju 87. And a sunk battleship is worth tremendously more than half a dozen lost He 111's.
@@timonsolus
It takes 20+ years to "grow" a pilot. While your analysis is true in cold numbers, it's the same mistake the Japanese made where they sacrificed many SKILLED pilots on such short term thinking, leading to a shortage of SKILLED pilots later in the war.
When those unskilled pilots of Japan were later employed in the aircraft they were ineffective (got lost, got shot down, missed targets) and mission accomplishment was severely degraded.
I hope you take my point.
@@StevenMRA : The best way to avoid losing SKILLED pilots is to avoid going to war in the first place.
I hope you take my point.
@@timonsolus
That's an interesting philosophical point.
Meanwhile - when nations are at war, you want to not lose your experienced war fighters. It takes a LONG time to train a pilot - the US program is almost 3 years before the raw recruit is a basic qualified pilot.
@@StevenMRA : Well, to the Japanese in WW2, honour was more important than victory, and fighting was more important than winning.
With that mindset, taking an experienced pilot away from his unit and away from the fighting, denying him future glory, was considered dishonourable, so it wasn’t done without a good medical reason.
The Japanese did send experienced pilots home to train new replacements - but usually after they had been seriously wounded, or become ill enough to require a long break from the front. Or, more rarely, after they had been promoted, and there wasn’t a space for them in their current unit at their new rank.
Is this based on any particular historical convoy? Where are all the carrier fighters? You have Seafires, but no Fulmars, Sea Hurricanes (the Hurricanes in this video appear to be regular ones without arresting gear), or Martlets. The flak also seems unusually light considering the presence of a number of destroyers, cruisers and at least one battleship protecting the convoy.
No it isn't, I simply put a bunch of ships. I think it does not really matter if I use Beaufighters, Seafires and Hurricanes or Fulmars and Sea Hurricanes. The Flak is light because of two reasons: A lot of it isn't displayed in replays and it's lighter in HSFX anyway. As always in IL-2, you can either have a lot of different ship types with HSFX OR impressive AA fire. Also, the game sucks at displaying AA fire, it quickly degrades the FPS.
@@Fishyyy The simultaneous Operation Harpoon and Operation Vigorous convoys of June 1942 might be good subject matter for a future video or several videos.
th-cam.com/video/ZGJZJ6ldYMw/w-d-xo.html
Good video with useful information, I might very well use it!
I think those german turrets have way to much RoF here than in RL like every shot in game was a tracer like round while in RL every 5 rounds was a tracer
@@aurorathearcticwolf4243 The MG-81 rate of fire was 1400-1600 rounds per minute, so it would be 2800-3200 rpm for this double mount. That's a lot of firepower (even if the projectiles are only rifle-calibre). Much better to avoid the effects of such a weapon by ducking under the tail of a Stuka to fire up into its unprotected underside.
Looks like you took my recommendation.
Great! Can I play this mission with BAT?
Yes actually
Or you can create your own mission as well
Can I join you guys
I just need the server name and the address
That missions is not server my friend. They play in Lan.
wonderfull
Superior stukka discipline.
wow Ju-87 스투카
Wowww
Alguien puede comentar qué significa la denominación IL-2. gRACIAS.
game title *facepalm*
With tail gunners like those Stukas have, how did the Germans not win the war?
nice video but fly more planes comon
What are you talking about?
More jets
All the spirfires are rookie
All the Spitfires are the same guy.
Verdammt! Where are the escort fighters?!
It should have escort fighters
Like Fw-190 or BF-109
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First!!!!!!!
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