Sheed and Bonzi Say Arvydas Sabonis was a MONSTER!
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 19 มิ.ย. 2024
- Sheed says that Arvydas Sabonis is one of the best big men he's ever played with. Him and Bonzi share some stories about playing with him in Portland.
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He was like a giant Luka. Dude had mortgaged his knees before he even got near an NBA court and was STILL a presence.
Not knees, but he had broken off his achilles of the same leg twice in a row in 1986-1987, and didnt play basketball 1,5 years at all, and returned straight to olympics in 1988 and helped to win gold medal for Soviet Union, beating Usa in semifinals with great admiral D. Robinson
Twice and he was in his mid-30s when he came to the US to play for the Blazers.
Sabonis, Walton, and Bias are still my biggest three "what ifs" in nba history. Honorable mention to Grant Hill
Shaq punched him in the face and he just smiled. If medical procedures were as then as they are today, he would’ve had a hell of a career.
yea it's night and day with surguries from when he had his in the 80s to today.
When y’all adding Bonzi to the name of the pod tho? 👀😂😂
You should ask dumb gill when he gonna add Kenyon and mckants names on his bullcrap pod 😊
@@jacklauren9359nah shit is funny af
@@jacklauren9359 Unnecessary Comment
@@jacklauren9359has nothing to do wit Gil at all lol. But you couldn’t resist the opportunity to show your hate 😂😂
@@Fier07112he’s a weirdo fr lmao
Sabonis was the reason for Olympic Dream Team in 92. He busted David Robinson's ass in 1988 Olympics, which made the USA go to professional players..
actually only the usa(plus overseas territories) and canada used non pros from 1958-1990 in international competition
@@ektran4205 but USA didn't need pros, until Sabonis..
@@krillin876 not just sabonis but yugoslavia
Not only Robinson. He destroyed Divac in the final with only one leg!
Oskar Schmidt was the reason for the Dream Team.
Portland resident here. If Sabonis had come to the Blazers in 86, MJ and the Bad Boys would have less Finals rings. Even in his decrepit condition, you could tell how sick of player he was. I remember watching an interview with him where the reporter asked Sabas who was the player he patterned his game around, and he answered Magic Johnson. It's a tragedy that the NBA didn't see peak Sabonis. It would have accelerated the evolution of the game.
As a Lakers fan, I gotta lot of respect for Sabonis. He went toe to toe with prime Shaq after wearing his body out.
You're correct! He was that good. Just like when you guys had that other center who's career was shortened due to injury. You guys got screwed out of at least 3 more titles. Bill Waltons blazers would have probably won one or two more and the late 80's blazers would have won at least one maybe two as the showtime Lakers would have aged out as your team hit its prime. (edit) OLD Kareem gave the 80's Celtics problems so Sabonis would have just obliterated them. Went back and looked at your roster you already had most of your team that would be the backbone of those great blazer teams. They would have been scary good with Sabonis.
Y’all should’ve seen Sabonis in Europe before the knee injuries: he had hops like Shaq; could shoot it like Bird; could handle like Magic; and time the block like Olajuwon… he was unbelievably good!
He was insanity when he was younger
this right here! People wouldn't believe how ahead of his time Sabonis was. If he played in the league today when he was young and had knees there would probably be conversations of GOAT status. The one thing that seperated Sabonis from Jokic is that he could run the court much better making him that much more dangerous
@@danielschomburg2140brah I seen old footage sabonis brings the ball up and dribbles between the legs stops on a dime 3ball. All bottoms like sponge bob nem from bikini. At 7’3 smh David blocked that picked. Straight up. Imagine sabonis with drazic on that nets team. Is giving bulls problems. Plus Derrick Coleman smh my God
Better than joker ?
@@user-oi1iq6tt4j Jokic couldn’t touch Sabonis before those knee injuries. Imagine Shaq with a nasty handle and deep, three-point range… that was Sabonis.
The respect they show him 💯
Sabonis in his prime was essentially a 7’3 Jokic that could play defense. If Portland woulda gotten him when they drafted him, they probably have 2 titles.
And athletic as hell
More of a mix of Walton and jokic
Sabonis! My guy!!! Favorite player of all time. He was so good. Underrated.
Not necessarily underrated but because of geopolitics most of the world didn't get a chance to see him play. Those who have seen him play no how special he was even when he was older and his body broken down in the NBA he still was great
The respect they show for him is awesome to hear !
"BLYAT.. displeases me.. BLYA..."😂😂😂😂 this is GOLD!!!
7'3" 280lbs could shoot the 3 and pass! He was ahead of his time!
He’d be a monster in today’s game.
Love how their Sabonis imitation has him sounding like Dracula 😂😂
Bill Walton said Uncle A was the best player on the planet in 89
Bonzi/Sabas give and go was such beautiful basketball
I would love to see more content about Arvydas, he seems like the type of player that not a lot of people get to see on the court.
Bonzi's impersonation of Sabas is hilarious.
Blah blah. lmao
Sabonis was a facilitator at the 5 position
I live north of Portland and watched him for 50 years. Of all the basketball I've ever watched sabonis got the worst calls from the refs of any person I've ever seen
I think Gregory Oden has him beat my guy lol.. Oden couldn't raise his arms above his waist without getting a whistle...
Yeah I remember one play in particular where Shaq elbowed Sabonis in the face and they called a foul on Sabonis....crazy
Chris Dudley would have two fouls coming out the locker room for warm ups.
“Hey bonzi “ in sabonis voice lmaooo
He gave La Laker Shaq a problem
Arvydas was crazy athletic before he came to the nba, he was like Steven Adam huge strength plus athleticism, it would have been so nice if he came early to the nba, not many highlights unfortunately. He was a European machine.
That's all I'm saying,they talk about these new European cats and they were always here,sabonis,divac,ilgauskas,stoyacovich,turkolou,etc.
@@user-rv1sy1iv3l yes but they weren’t dominating, now they do started with nowitzki.
Sheed funny af with that running impression 😂😂
I remember when I was middle school, I went to a Blazers Fan Fest event and when the host asked Arvydas how far the Blazers will go in the playoffs he replied, “Yah!” I was laughing so hard.
I could listen to these guys talk about Sabonis all day. LOL Cracks me up!
They describe. Him like an 80s movie villain lmaooooo he was incredible
if sabonis came in nba 10-15 years earlier he would be in top 10 now😉
86 draft. Blazers got Sabonis and Drazen Petrovic
I remember AB shooting 3s like way b4 it was popular for big man with the most beautiful passes
Arvydas is one of the most interesting "What if" scenarios in the NBA. What if Arvydas had come to the NBA at 20 instead of 30?
Sabonis was a Jokic on steroids in his prime. If he would have been drafted in the 80s as originally planned, he would have changed NBA history as we know it. 💯
He was drafted, but the dude didn't wanna come.
@@G4MBIT Soviets did not let him play in NBA during cold war. It's better to check facts before writing anything
Why you all forget about vlade Divac? He played just like Jokic and had a longer run in the NBA than Sabonis
@@geekUSA101 Vlade was never a triple-double threat with 3-point range. Jokic was never a flopper on Vlade's level, either.
@@onlydbrasko totally wrong, he had 3 point range bigs just didn’t shoot 3’s much back then and he was a triple double threat
Sabonis was beyond great at his older age in Portland.
My favorite player to watch live by far.
Sabonis, Jokic, and Walton are the holy trinity of passing bigs
I grew up in Portland. Been to many games and stayed after many too. I’m surprised they ever talked to each other ever. I remember Wallace throwing a towel in Sabas face during a timeout
TH-cam "Arvydas Sabonis With Eyes In The Back Of His Head" that always stuck with me though the years.
Sabonis at the top of his athletic ability was better than Jokic. People just don't know. He could play defense, and was way more athletic than Nicola. And his skillset was just as varied.
He was better defensively but he wasn't better than Jokic, Sabonis was a great passer but Jokic clears him in terms of playmaking and IQ, also a much better scorer
Agreed! If Sabonis came to the NBA when he was younger, he'd be a hall of famer.
@@stevenisadragon you say that because you never seen him. His IQ and playmaking was off the charts, and he lapsed Jokic in every other area
joker was nowhere near as athletic. Everyone has a memory of NBA Sabonis. That didn't show who used to be at all.
@@nathanielrobinson173He's in the hall, 2011.
saw him when Sabas was in his early 20s and he was like Jokic but more athletic, he dominated europe like nobody did
Best big man passers I seen in my lifetime are
Jokic
Sabonis
Yao
Isiah Hartenstein in NY has it in his game too. But those were the 3 best
Sabonis in his prime was better than Jokic. Believe me I really like Jokic but Sabas skill set was a little better. Not to mention Sabas was way more active and quicker. Go watch his old stuff.
Vlade Divac
Noah was a pretty damn good passer too.
Divac, Walton..Larry bird…C Webb, you must have missed a lot of basketball
@@geekUSA101Bird really isn’t a “big”. He was tall but played kind of a hybrid 3/4.
One of the bigs he played with, Robert Parish was a solid passer. They’d use to run a real quick give and go with Parish on the high post kicking it back out to Larry. Parish had that ball for not even a second and it was back out.
No wonder Mike Brown starting using Sabonis as a playmaker
His kid has better NBA stats, but he's nowhere near as good as peak Arvydas Sabonis. He is the reason the Dream Team ever happened after the USSR beat the USA at the Seoul Olympics. Sabonis owned David Robinson.
I had an Arvydas Sabonis PDX jersey that I wore in middle school. Still have it
Thats right. He couldn't even jump at that point in his career and he was terrific.
They're doing impressions of "Colossus" from X-Men to describe Sabonis😅
If AS played in the states during his prime, he’d be known on another level.
He was nice af
“He’s not your vydas… he’s not my vydas… He’s Ardvydas.”
Sabonis was before his time. Would be one of the best players in the league today.
He was awesome! Gets drafted by Portland in 86, but doesn't play for them until 95. You could tell he loved what he was doing.
Yo Sheed! I played on the Jordan high school tennis team in 97. Our #1 seed was a Ukrain dude. We went on a trip to Wilmington and I got drunk for the very first time with this mofo. He drank the entire team under the table! We woke up with throw up piles everywhere, meanwhile this cat was sitting straight up in a chair like “you 🐈’s”. 😂
If Sabonis played in the Nba in his prime it would of been a problem.
Domantas was actually born in Portland when these dudes played with Arvydis
The late ‘90s->early ‘00s Western Conference was ridiculous for bigs.
- UTA: Malone
- LAL: Shaq
- SAS: Tim/DRob
- POR: Sheed/Sabonis
- SAC: CWebb/Divac
- MIN: KG
- DAL: Dirk
Then you’d play an EC team and see guys like Mutombo, Zo, & Big Ben.
Isn’t Shawn Kemp in there for Seattle, and Hakeem for the Rockets?
@@gambitacio Dream was past his prime by ‘98, and Kemp was on his last legs out in CLE by then.
@@margarinetaintedgreen8140 If you say late ‘90s, then that should be 96-97 as the cutoff? Then you’re right. But since there are so many good players during that era it felt like a longer ‘90s one.
Would count Amare for Phoenix? Elton Brand for the Clippers? Does Yao Ming make the cutoff for Houston then? Besides Malone, what about Kirilenko and Boozer? And Dikembe did play for Denver, and Antonio Mcdyess too? But you’re right. So many good big men during that time. You forgot about Larry Johnson and how could you forget about Ewing in NY?
@@gambitacio You’re right with McDyess & Yao. Can’t believe I left out Pao Gasol in MEM. Ewing was in even worse shape than Dream in ‘98 & ‘99. STAT didn’t have a great/healthy season until ‘05. Larry Johnson was so-so in the late-‘90s.
@@margarinetaintedgreen8140 Since I’m a Lakers fan, Pau Gasol doesn’t feel like a an early 2000s player even though he got drafted in ‘01, he leans towards the mid-late ‘00s for his prime and you said late ‘90s to early 00s so I left him out but he is definitely another great big man. But if Pau Gasol’s in there, We’re both feeling really stupid for not including Marc Gasol and Zach Randolph for Memphis.
His feet were so bad when he got to the NBA, he qualified as a handicaped person. He wore prosthetic pieces in his shoes so he could run a little better. They were sent to him from Spain, where he played the six years prior going into the NBA.
😂,,, bonzi doing the sabonis impression
I remember sheed throwing a towel at sabonis face.
Prime healthy sabonis was a athletic 7 ft joker
I just wish he came to the league when he had his knees and his bounce...I seen the footage...i feel like i got cheated😂
In 1985 he'd have been the best NBA center
38% from 3 is sick
prime sabonis was like jokic just bigger ,stronger,more athletic and he play defense:)
arvydas was drafted by mike fratello and the hawks in 1985 since couldn't play beyond the iron curtain before he turned 26 he was put back in the draft and was pick by the blazers in 1986 and came over in 1995
I thought the reason why the Hawks didn't get to keep the pick was that he was too young or something?
@@This.Here.Channel he turned 21 that december
He was Joker before Joker
Prime Arvydas was easily a top-10 big man of All-Time, if not top 5.
He used to crash backboards in Europe when he was younger
Sabonis was the first big who made me question just how good Shaq really was. Shaq couldn't bully him and at times Sabonis looked better.
The Dream Team was born because of Sabonis. Thus, we can say that the NBA went global because of Sabonis.
There should be a rule that 1% of all the contracts related to the NBA (TVs, Sponsors, players, etc...) should be wired straight to Sabonis's bank account.
I loved those Portland teams. Good stuff. Sheed and Bonzi, my dudes!
Imagine putting prime Sabonis in the NBA today...damn...he's style would totally fit the game today
He a good pick in 2k too when you draft the legends 😂😂
Goddamn i just remembered Uncle Cliff passed 😢
He was a beast
What's the shoes bonzi wearing? Thnaks in advance.
😂 you youngsters just dont know the history....😂 SABAS was the MAIN reason why 92 DREAMTEAM was formed...
Listen all the americans and others. Maybe Sabonis knees werent the strongest or the best, but the main problem, why he was playing almost with one leg after 1988, that he broke off his achilles two times in a row of the same leg!!! Thats the main tragedy of his career!! And he didnt play basketball 1,5 years at all, and returned straight to olympics in 1988 and helped to win gold medals for Soviet Union, beating Usa in semifinals, battling with great admiral D. Robinson as equals!
Sabonis was the best Center in the league against Shaq.. he was the only center in the game that could shoot the 3 and drag Shaq out of the paint
Olajuwon has entered the chat
Both yall fools check stats before u speak shaq avg over 20pts an 10reb plus over both if im worng hit me back
@cheetahturner4576 you aren't wrong. Who danced with Shaq and should have won a game 7? That's right, Sabonis. Shaq is gonna get points my dude. But Arvydis could pass, defend, score and hit that 3.
That's why I said he was the best center against Shaq.. never said he was better boi.. sheesh
@@jdfraed123 sir u made seem like it was close it wasnt an game 7 since he drag shaq out why sabonis didnt finish lakers off lol stop bs just big body for fouls on shaq
@cheetahturner4576 sheed was given a BS tech in game 6. Go back and watch. 1 more and he's suspended. So refs took Sheed out the game.
Sabonis was called for 2 fouls in the 1st quarter. He did what he was doing the entire series and all of a sudden it was a problem. So refs took him out the game.
Kobe elbowed multiple Blazers during his drives. He never got called. David Stern was not about to let the Jail Blazers win a chip as the east was wack and the west winner would take the title.
AND...Tim Donaghy said that that game 7 was for sure rigged.. FOR SURE! what else you need to hear pumpkin??
why does Sabonis sound like a black and white 1920's movie Dracula
Could’ve been on the Mount Rushmore….!!!
Crazy thing is I heard he didn't come to America sooner because the party scene in Europe was so much bette 😂 he just loved to party 😂
Top 10 player ever
Blah blah 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
Just watched one of his interviews. Dude totally sounds like Dracula. 😂😂
😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
A giant😂😂😊 a goon goon😂
it's likely blyet not blah wich means fuck.
@@luciusv5765 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Good stats in Kobe Bryant court side n-64 game, play Portland
Sabas was the first big man who had so much skill. Ahead of his time. Too bad by the time he played in the NBA his body had deteriorated. Maybe with modern sports medicine he would've had a better career nowadays. Then again there's way more big skilled guys nowadays.
Rename the pod TBS. Tyler Bonzi and Sheed.
Sabonis was at least 330
OK but in the morning or afternoon ?
Divac just as good a passer
I remember that story when sheed throw a towel on Sabonis face. And Sabonis was about to kill sheed because of non stop talking s*** about him to the locker room. 😅
Saba was a monster
Is this the jail Blazers podcast? Where's Stodamire at?
Too bad Sabonis didn't join the Blazers when they drafted him. Being on that Drexler team may have put them over the hump.
Why did u throw the towel in his face???
Sheed actually liked Sabas?
😂😂 Sabas for sure vibed with Sheed😂😂 no herb though as i understood
I don't know if he liked him or not but he definitely respected him
old USSR stories and vodka.
Repeat an old Sabonis. Russians held on to him for a long time.
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣SABONIS!!!!BLAH,blah like Dracula 🤣🤣
Supposedly, he was a good passer, but he only averaged two assist his whole career in the NBA
Assists was counted dfrnt😂😂
@@woopty8878 there definition
Hilarious
OG Jokic og Jordan 90s Europe. He came to the NBA way too late in his career.
VYDas... follow Jesus
Blah blah blah,,, Hysterical!
So prime Sabonis = Joker
Closer to the 🐐 Hakeem from what they say. 😅
@@ryandavis8658 No, Sab was better than Jokic as crazy as that sounds.
Yeah. He and Vlade really were the blueprint for Jokic
He was ten times better than Jokic. Before the knee injuries, Sabonis was a super athlete: He could run; jump; move laterally; shoot; defend; handle on the break; pass… and I don’t mean a little athletic, he had ridiculous hops, ridiculous!!!… he was so good, USA basketball created the first Dream Team with Jordan, because we were afraid of losing to a Sabonis-led Soviet team.
But never proved himself in nba why he didnt come ovee in prime . Joker is better 3time mvp so stop bs
He’s not your vydas! He’s _____
Dude played the game like a street hustler , crazy passes . Could get a bucket when he wanted too