Stuart Graham actually rode a 6 on Douglas prom during a demo at the 2007 T.T. I have never in my life heard anything like it ! The now sadly departed Geoff Cannell said on the p.a."please be upstanding for the Japanese national anthem" then they fired the 6 up !!!! Absolute music !! Thanks for posting this !
The 250 and 297cc sixes were probably the most incredible sounding bikes of all time! I saw them in full-on action for the first time at the 1968 Brands Hatch meeting and I couldn't believe my ears!
Yes indeed these bikes were so fast that most people could not handle them. I absolutely loved the 2 strokers of yesteryear. My first experience was on a RD 350 which I could not keep on the ground. Put that 6cylinder motor in a modern frame with state of the art brakes and I do believe that nothing in today's market could touch it.
This was built back with Mr. Sochiro Honda was running the show. He was an old racer, and he was HEAVILY involved in building race bikes. He completely dominated everything at that time.
It's OK just hearing them being started up like this but the ultimate was to be up near the Bungalow on the Isle of Man TT circuit and hear howling up the road being used in anger. Somthing never to be forgotten...
Just the sound of these gets my adrenaline pumping, what must it be like to ride them?!! If you don't get your adrenalin stoked then I have bad news for you; you're dead. Great vid, thanks.
Nice collection of 1960's Honda Grand Prix machines being fired up! The 6 cyinder Hondas still sound the best racing motorcycle ever in my opinion! :-)
dont want to sound like all other honda multi fans but thats awsome really love the sound of that 250 6 there isnt anything ellse like it ever. would love to see it myself atleast one of the survivours doing a lap or too!!!
Made the BIG mistake of standing two yards behind Hailwood's Six when it was in the paddock started up ready for the race back in the 1960s. The air and noise immediately got my rib cage and surrounding flesh painfully vibrating at different freqencies. I soon moved away for fear of being rendered sterile! Never before or since heard any racing machine make a sound like that be it on two or four wheels. Fabulous stuff gorn forever. You don't need rose tinted ear muffs to know that... Youngsters today don't know theyze born ... and you could do 100 mph on the North Circular and Cop Cars move over and wave you by... I kid you not ... ;)
All I can say is...you lucky, lucky man! Just imagine though; 1966 and all the standard English bike racers turn up with their Nortons and BSAs thinking that the TT race was still in the bag for them. Then Halewood fires up one of his 6 cylinder machines - they must have thought "oh sh*t, it's game over for us!"
my father took me to Hockenheim, I was standing app. 60 meters away. That both shocked and fascinated me at the same time; I'll never forget that sound of hell (actually sound of heaven :))
my god, what a sound, u can hear the tune in the engine, i am biased by the way, ive had honda,s for 30 years, lol, in my opinion u wont find a better bike, reliability, build quality, and no other manufacturer comes close to titles being won, mr soichiro would be proud if he was around today
I assume the guy sitting on the bike is Nobby Clarke. When the 250 first arrived at a track, the numbers (which were colour coded by class) showed it as a 350 and it had 4 exhaust megas. When it went out to warm up, they changed the colour to show it as a 250, added the other 2 exhausts, and put the fear of christ up the entire Yamaha team!!!
This may be the best video on You Tube. If you dont get a stiffy watching this, well you must be dead. FANTASTIC!! Long live the internal combustion engine!!
I think what makes the whole Hailwood / Honda relationship crazy is that Mike won using clearly inferior handling Hondas! I have no idea what vintage of Honda this is, but it looks a lot newer than the first Honda 250 Mike won on (did I mention meaner?). Mike the Bike forever!
@jigibao no man my biking days sadly came to and end in my twenties. I remember when the first busa was unleashed and nobody could believe anything that fast could be allowed on the road. Nowadays I like especially race bikes and historic bikes.
I wish it were true that these old fossils could be faster on a track than a modern 600/1000 supersport motorcycle but it just isn't. Time and technology moves on. However, I would not classify these bikes as 'shit'. Fantastic pieces of technology and the pinnacle of engineering in their time. In a way, I'm a little surprised that they still exist. Lots of times, old racers are pushed to the back of the garage and forgotten then sold for scrap.
If the rider over-reved the enging most of the valves got intermingled, they were normally sprung valves, not desmo. The mechanics changed the engine in 10 minutes flat, I saw it.
I think this may be Brands Hatch in the mid-90s when John Surtees made a video of the 60s GP bikes - Honda, Yamaha, MV, Gilera etc. However, 1998 (I think) there was a parade at the IoM, which included two Moto Guzzi V8s, one of which crashed! One was original, one was a replica, but I don't remember which one got bent.
First bike up is a four - you can hear it's a four if I have to explain why - you don't need to know. It also has four pipes as asimple visual check. Still sounds great though and thanks for posting.
Yeaa, nevermind that this Honda is worth 20x more than any Hayabusa, even with the 20ft extended 24kt gold platinum diamond encrusted double chromed swingarm that comes with every busa nowadays. Busas are ok, but they've become the Honda Civic of the motorcycle world. Long live Honda Motorcycles, and this AWESOME piece of machinery!
It's a bit different in the English country side, people live here for the quiet life, mind you doing a track day at our local circuit, Oulton Park, 15 miles away, would be a blast.
Where was this? I am sure I saw these bikes in the IOM about 1997/98 or thereabouts. There is a brilliant article in MCN (20/02/12) about the 250 six replicas built by the genius GEORGE BEALE.
In response to Malalo's comment about idling, they DON'T, most racing machines don't have idle circuts in the carbs, especially these "vintage" racers. Gotta keep blipping them just to keep them running.
they are reved like that because the engine does not have the recipracating mass needed to over come friction and compression at an idle.not a race engine builder,but know some one who is and i had the same question.
@leyburnhealeyman Not true, Honda asked George Beale to make a replica of the 6 as they did not have one in their museum in Tokyo. He made 6, each casting 200.000 sterling, the engines were built by GPX in Le Mans in France, I met the young engineer who pressed the rollerbearing cranks together, they wanted to go with modern shell bearings but could'nt make a one piece crank that would work reliably, he reckoned it was like balancing 13 pool balls on top of another!
Sorry, but a Huyabusa just does't do it for me. Just an ugly rocket. This Honda 6 cylinder is a machine to be proud of and cherish. I bet in 50 years this will still be remembered as it was 50 years ago. Truely remarkable Honda engineering.
I think its funny that croch rocket guys trash talk there own kind, lol. I am a car guy but this thing is cool, you can't compare a race bike to a road bike so why bother. these old 2 strokes sound amazing when they flying by at full throttle.
I want one as well. but I think the startup is much more cool when you have 2 little japanese guys in white jumpsuits and ball caps push start you. Do they come with the bike?
@ORIANA250 Sorry mate, but these ain't two strokes, all 4 strokes and that includes the 125 5cyl, this was developed from the 50cc twin cylinder, hence 5 cylinders for the 125, all verifiable on the net if you look. :))
G'day Stephen, where did you take this vid mate... lucky you. And do you know who owns the 125/5 I'm sure there were a few. did you get to see the honda works 50 twin that inspired them to stick two and a half together? Cheers
@jigibao lmao.........no in fact your brother and I would sit down together and have a beer and talk about our love of bikes (despite the fact that you or he owns a pig of a one). Perhaps also discuss that Italy has produced not only some of the best and most beautiful looking bikes but some of the greatest art, architecture and music and of course Ago and now Vali. Ciao bello.......lol
It's probably because the camshaft profile is so extreme, that low down running is not an option. Just look at an F1 car, and thats with modern technology.
Nice bike the the RD250, I used to race a highly modified Suzuki GT250, it was a great bike for someone learning the craft of road racing but like all bikes of the time, it was compromised by the poor tyre technology.
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Stuart Graham actually rode a 6 on Douglas prom during a demo at the 2007 T.T. I have never in my life heard anything like it ! The now sadly departed Geoff Cannell said on the p.a."please be upstanding for the Japanese national anthem" then they fired the 6 up !!!!
Absolute music !! Thanks for posting this !
The 250 and 297cc sixes were probably the most incredible sounding bikes of all time!
I saw them in full-on action for the first time at the 1968 Brands Hatch meeting and I couldn't believe my ears!
Yes indeed these bikes were so fast that most people could not handle them. I absolutely loved the 2 strokers of yesteryear. My first experience was on a RD 350 which I could not keep on the ground. Put that 6cylinder motor in a modern frame with state of the art brakes and I do believe that nothing in today's market could touch it.
This was built back with Mr. Sochiro Honda was running the show. He was an old racer, and he was HEAVILY involved in building race bikes. He completely dominated everything at that time.
OK, can someone please tell me why they aren't making bikes like these anymore? This has got to be the best 4-stroke motorcycle video on TH-cam!
went to goodwood and Honda came over with the 50 2 125 4 and 5 the 250 6 and 350 6 one year and started them up totally awesome!!!!!!
いい音です。６０年代にこんなバイクが存在していたのもすごいですが、聴くことが叶わないと思っていたＲＣサウンドを聴けたのも嬉しい！
ｇｏｏｄ ｊｏｂ！
It's OK just hearing them being started up like this but the ultimate was to be up near the Bungalow on the Isle of Man TT circuit and hear howling up the road being used in anger. Somthing never to be forgotten...
Just the sound of these gets my adrenaline pumping, what must it be like to ride them?!! If you don't get your adrenalin stoked then I have bad news for you; you're dead. Great vid, thanks.
Nice collection of 1960's Honda Grand Prix machines being fired up! The 6 cyinder Hondas still sound the best racing motorcycle ever in my opinion! :-)
Funny to hear the old single banger plod by at 27 and then hear the fabulous Honda burst into life.
dont want to sound like all other honda multi fans but thats awsome really love the sound of that 250 6 there isnt anything ellse like it ever. would love to see it myself atleast one of the survivours doing a lap or too!!!
Made the BIG mistake of standing two yards behind Hailwood's Six when it was in the paddock started up ready for the race back in the 1960s. The air and noise immediately got my rib cage and surrounding flesh painfully vibrating at different freqencies. I soon moved away for fear of being rendered sterile! Never before or since heard any racing machine make a sound like that be it on two or four wheels. Fabulous stuff gorn forever. You don't need rose tinted ear muffs to know that... Youngsters today don't know theyze born ... and you could do 100 mph on the North Circular and Cop Cars move over and wave you by... I kid you not ... ;)
All I can say is...you lucky, lucky man! Just imagine though; 1966 and all the standard English bike racers turn up with their Nortons and BSAs thinking that the TT race was still in the bag for them. Then Halewood fires up one of his 6 cylinder machines - they must have thought "oh sh*t, it's game over for us!"
my father took me to Hockenheim, I was standing app. 60 meters away.
That both shocked and fascinated me at the same time; I'll never forget that sound of hell (actually sound of heaven :))
Simply.....................INCREDIBLE !!!!
BEAST FROM THE PAST!!!
my god, what a sound, u can hear the tune in the engine, i am biased by the way, ive had honda,s for 30 years, lol, in my opinion u wont find a better bike, reliability, build quality, and no other manufacturer comes close to titles being won, mr soichiro would be proud if he was around today
i got the honor of hearing the 250 at a bike show in the rds it is the best sound i have ever herd from any engine be it car or bike !!
the sound of good old times. golden ages.
I assume the guy sitting on the bike is Nobby Clarke. When the 250 first arrived at a track, the numbers (which were colour coded by class) showed it as a 350 and it had 4 exhaust megas. When it went out to warm up, they changed the colour to show it as a 250, added the other 2 exhausts, and put the fear of christ up the entire Yamaha team!!!
they sound amazing. my single cylinder Honda 125 doesn't have a note close to as epic.
This may be the best video on You Tube. If you dont get a stiffy watching this, well you must be dead. FANTASTIC!! Long live the internal combustion engine!!
I was there when they raced these bikes in the 1960s against Yamaha twins and fours, Benellis, Aermacchis, MZs. and others. Music to the ears !.
esto es una sinfonia para mis oidos, gracias por subirlo.
I think what makes the whole Hailwood / Honda relationship crazy is that Mike won using clearly inferior handling Hondas! I have no idea what vintage of Honda this is, but it looks a lot newer than the first Honda 250 Mike won on (did I mention meaner?).
Mike the Bike forever!
That's a very tasty noise. Bravo
@jigibao no man my biking days sadly came to and end in my twenties. I remember when the first busa was unleashed and nobody could believe anything that fast could be allowed on the road. Nowadays I like especially race bikes and historic bikes.
Sounds like engine is saying. Burn me Burn me Burn Burn Burn 🔥 👍👏.how stunning 😍
I wish it were true that these old fossils could be faster on a track than a modern 600/1000 supersport motorcycle but it just isn't. Time and technology moves on. However, I would not classify these bikes as 'shit'. Fantastic pieces of technology and the pinnacle of engineering in their time. In a way, I'm a little surprised that they still exist. Lots of times, old racers are pushed to the back of the garage and forgotten then sold for scrap.
super badass! i want one, my neighbors don't though
Fantastic sound track!!
The RC166 gave me an eargasm
Have you ever heard of a tripod? They're really nifty little items, and they avoid the kind of "broken-neck" video we got here.
さすがの6気筒いい音するわw
that sounds soo amazing!!!!!!!!!!!!
If the rider over-reved the enging most of the valves got intermingled, they were normally sprung valves, not desmo. The mechanics changed the engine in 10 minutes flat, I saw it.
Sound slowly faded out of left ear and I thought i was going deaf. Mean trick.
Awesome sound !
Honda rocks ! :o)
Two strokes have expansion chambers, four strokes of this era have megaphones which can be clearly seen.
I think this may be Brands Hatch in the mid-90s when John Surtees made a video of the 60s GP bikes - Honda, Yamaha, MV, Gilera etc. However, 1998 (I think) there was a parade at the IoM, which included two Moto Guzzi V8s, one of which crashed! One was original, one was a replica, but I don't remember which one got bent.
First bike up is a four - you can hear it's a four if I have to explain why - you don't need to know. It also has four pipes as asimple visual check. Still sounds great though and thanks for posting.
man this is what gets my blood boiling, I luv it!!!
I can remember being at the Creg in '67 hearing Mike gunning the 6 down to Brandish ORGASMIC.
Awesome!
My laptop speakers are not up to this!
think my ears are bleeding now!!! great vid and great sounds!!!!
Yeaa, nevermind that this Honda is worth 20x more than any Hayabusa, even with the 20ft extended 24kt gold platinum diamond encrusted double chromed swingarm that comes with every busa nowadays. Busas are ok, but they've become the Honda Civic of the motorcycle world. Long live Honda Motorcycles, and this AWESOME piece of machinery!
大変貴重な映像有難う御座います！！！
no the ultimate would be waking up Christmas morning to find the 6 cyl under the tree!! lol
い～音するね～👏👏
@wingking077
Idle speed for a six is around 10,000 rpm with peak power around 18.000 rpm. They wont idle below that.
wouuuu-wouuuu ! Fantastic of music
It's a bit different in the English country side, people live here for the quiet life, mind you doing a track day at our local circuit, Oulton Park, 15 miles away, would be a blast.
Where was this? I am sure I saw these bikes in the IOM about 1997/98 or thereabouts.
There is a brilliant article in MCN (20/02/12) about the 250 six replicas built by the genius GEORGE BEALE.
It wouldnt be under my tree for long,never mind Crimbo dinner,think Id miss new years eve as well!!!
damn i love the symphony
....infernalisch schön!
Music to ur ears what a weapon
gary stewart ttt
In response to Malalo's comment about idling, they DON'T, most racing machines don't have idle circuts in the carbs, especially these "vintage" racers. Gotta keep blipping them just to keep them running.
６気筒最高です！
they are reved like that because the engine does not have the recipracating mass needed to over come friction and compression at an idle.not a race engine builder,but know some one who is and i had the same question.
very nice video
oh mann des ding is ja ma affengeil ich will auch sowas!
holy shit damn thats fucking cool
i want that bike maaaan
it sounds evil like hell
I guess they learned a lot from the guzzi V8 they bought from Italy in the late 50s
@leyburnhealeyman Not true, Honda asked George Beale to make a replica of the 6 as they did not have one in their museum in Tokyo. He made 6, each casting 200.000 sterling, the engines were built by GPX in Le Mans in France, I met the young engineer who pressed the rollerbearing cranks together, they wanted to go with modern shell bearings but could'nt make a one piece crank that would work reliably, he reckoned it was like balancing 13 pool balls on top of another!
that sound still scares me to this day and I'm 24!!
incredibile!!!!!
magic sound 250....
This sound is better than some "speeding mosquitos" :P
HONDA. 4 stroke, many valves as possible (oval piston). Maximum RPM.= Horsepower.
I want that 125cc bike ! :O
Fabulous.
Sorry, but a Huyabusa just does't do it for me. Just an ugly rocket. This Honda 6 cylinder is a machine to be proud of and cherish. I bet in 50 years this will still be remembered as it was 50 years ago. Truely remarkable Honda engineering.
I'm sat here listening to these angry wee engines and I'm grinning like an idiot if that helps anyone
@turtlemann14 Not revving the shit out of it, just warming up. This is very normal.
2 Strokes don't like idling for a long time.
@MrMAHALO178 these engines won't idle, they don't have proper flywheels, and that works wonders for the pick up and achieving high rpm.
I had not considered that but yes would be a nice prezzy.... Not sure if the neighbours would agree though. ;-)
@SirVladDracula no he is pulling it back to make it rev its the bike noise maken the mic on the video lagg out!!!
start it like you run it!
I think its funny that croch rocket guys trash talk there own kind, lol. I am a car guy but this thing is cool, you can't compare a race bike to a road bike so why bother. these old 2 strokes sound amazing when they flying by at full throttle.
I want one as well. but I think the startup is much more cool when you have 2 little japanese guys in white jumpsuits and ball caps push start you. Do they come with the bike?
fookin hell...i can see my dads eyes misting over as we speak
@ORIANA250 Sorry mate, but these ain't two strokes, all 4 strokes and that includes the 125 5cyl, this was developed from the 50cc twin cylinder, hence 5 cylinders for the 125, all verifiable on the net if you look. :))
G'day Stephen,
where did you take this vid mate... lucky you. And do you know who owns the 125/5 I'm sure there were a few. did you get to see the honda works 50 twin that inspired them to stick two and a half together?
Cheers
@jigibao lmao.........no in fact your brother and I would sit down together and have a beer and talk about our love of bikes (despite the fact that you or he owns a pig of a one). Perhaps also discuss that Italy has produced not only some of the best and most beautiful looking bikes but some of the greatest art, architecture and music and of course Ago and now Vali. Ciao bello.......lol
Luv it!
Why the hell did Mosses deside to come down the hill riding a Triumph when he couldve rode one of these!!??
They never think of idling for engine!
Dude, it's a four stroke not two . . . . the beauty of tiny reciprocating parts . . . big RPM.
xcelent
It's probably because the camshaft profile is so extreme, that low down running is not an option. Just look at an F1 car, and thats with modern technology.
i sure dont wanna start this in early morning.
Nice bike the the RD250, I used to race a highly modified Suzuki GT250, it was a great bike for someone learning the craft of road racing but like all bikes of the time, it was compromised by the poor tyre technology.
They also have no idle circuits in the carbs.
Id sell a kidney for one of those
mine would!! we all ride out here in bfe ohio.... lol
Awesome noice!!!
Acrapovic is hideing under the bed !!!
aaaawwwwwwwww BRILL. Scream baby scream like you love it hahaha
i think Yamaha have run them pretty close down the years,, on far less money and rescources Mr Crabb
anyone know why they keep it at high revs and not at idle?