The Eastern side Chalcedon has a bigger river than the western side. Therefore, it's easier for early people to establish a town in the east. The west needs complex aquaducts for water supply.
@@Boyd2342 Well, not only during the late roman times they always said that Britain on its own was a money drain from the start for exemple and verry badly managed
@@AdriatheBwitch You'd think after Boudicca Rome would've realized what a waste Britain was. Nero had the right of it when he proposed abandoning the province.
@@asddsdsssd Yeah....its not a coincidence it was the first part to be really abandonned during the fall (not like Dacia that was due to problmes with bordures) but britain was never really under roman control and was too unrully but yet they kept wanting to have a grasp on it =/
I'm very glad that found your YT channel thank so much for uploading those educational videos I would rate 10 out of 10, I'm your fan from north Iraq Kurdistan Zakho city.
I love automation in throne room to aid in the shock and awe effect that visitors experienced when meeting the emperor for the first time. I heard that caliph of cordoba had a similar system in place for the same reasons which I would love hear more about in future videos. I also remember from the history channel that this trick was also employed by both Eygptian and Greek priests several centuries before for theatrical effect during temple worship. Sad how people today don't realize how advanced things actually were back then.
That’s pretty incredible. Sorry that Europe let Anatolia and Constantinople down when you needed them most in the Middle Ages and Renaissance period. IMO they should have given Anatolia to Greece at the end of WW1
Byzantine is a term created by Germans. There were never Byzantines, but Romans. Also, the term Roman became outdated after the Greek War of Independence (1821) not in the 60s.
@@nole8923 Who is giving what to who if I may ask? And why stop there by the way? While you are at it ''give'' everything from Thrace right up to the base of the Indus River too since it is all rightfully theirs rite? Funny comment by the way I laughed but with a hint of contempt.
Most of the monuments and buildings in Constantinople were destroyed by the Crusaders and the rest were destroyed by the Ottomans. All that is left of the ancient city are the Hagia Sophia, a few other scattered buildings, and a few columns. A sad end to a great and beautiful city.
Lol ottoman/ Turkey is one of few countries I know that preserves monuments, artifacts etc...which is more than I can say for the Western civilisations.. Ottoman Empire restored Hagia Sophia that was destroyed by crusaders... do proper research first ...
@@joek600 WW2 bombing ahm ahm... I traveled all Europe and most of monuments and buildings were rebuilt or destroyed especially in Germany. Also you can still find all these Roman Artifacts good preserved in Anatolia. Turks really care about history of others unlike Balkans who destroyed nearly everything about Turks and Ottomans. I am not fan of Turks but you Europeans are so racist against them. Don't believe me why don't you check out the photos taken by Getrude Bell archive.
@@joek600 I mean seriouly ? You people blame authorities and its people all together. For example, you saying "Ottoman is bad", well ok but Ottoman ruled with Monacrhy not democracy. If ottoman did something bad why do you include and blame Turks also. It is non sense. If Turks are so racist how could you live together for decades with no problem ? Also Turks I saw in Turkey are so friendly and kind. You also attack Turks through Erdogan but Erdogan is not Turkey he is just a president. Turks have more respect to other cultures than you westerners does. Most of things you present in your museums belong to other nations which you took from them by colonizing them. What kind of double standard is that ?
Thersites, have you had a chance to travel overseas and see this stuff in person (whether it be Istanbul, Greece, Italy, etc)? If so, what was your favorite?
@@ThersitestheHistorian i would literally shit my pants if i got to see that stuff in person LOL. I saw some medieval/renaissance stuff in Germany and France but thats nothing compared to the ancient antiquity.
Perhaps the Greeks who built Byzantion were more familiar with the Older city of Troy on the other side of the strait and didn’t want to build on its foundations in disrespect? It could’ve been like a tourist attraction.
Just found out the name of your channel is inspired by the Iliad's character Thersites. He was possibly the figure which impressed me the most when I studied the Iliad. I was pretty much of his reasoning and I remained shocked by how he was treated (beaten up) because he was brave enough to voice his opinion against a so far inconclusive and ruinous war. Thank you so much for remembering this lonely figure by using his name.
I was fortunate enough to have some history teachers that actually taught history, instead of warping it into one ideology or the next. Those teachers have long since retired, and doubtless passed away. May God bless their souls in the afterlife. But friends, that is the distance we have gone from having real history taught in our schools. And what breaks my heart even more is when people tell me it doesn't matter. That it is just past BS. Who cares? They do not know the first thing about why to understand it is crucial to moving forward! :)
Both Ravenna and Milan are featured in the last video. For me to do a full video on either would entail going fairly deep into the Middle Ages to get enough material. I have more videos on Patreon of this kind and I plan to make still more, but I will be focusing primarily on Greek poleis.
My suggestion is that Chalcedon was founded first, largely because it was close to a plentiful supply of fresh water, in the now rather polluted river that runs by Fenerbahce football stadium. It was harder to defend from the land than Byzantion, being founded on top of a relatively gentle hill on the landward side. Frensh water supply was always a problem for Byzantion, exacerbated as it grew, which is why there are so many huge water storage cisterns there. These are not apparent in Chalcedon.
Chalcedon *wasn't* very well situated strategically. This is why a legend grew up in the Eastern Empire that people tended to suffer from blindness: they supposedly couldn't see the far more favourable sight just across the water.
Actually the “Eastern Roman Empire” ceased to exist after the end of the last Western Emperor Romulus Augustus. His Western Imperial regalia was sent to the Eastern Emperor Zeno in Constantinople, all remaining Imperial territories were reunited into a single Roman Empire, and both Western & Eastern Roman Empires ceased to exist. Constantinople became capital of one whole reunited Roman Empire, not “Eastern” empire.
No. That’s what a German catholic over 100 years after Constantinople said to rewrite the fact Catholics sacked and dismembered the Roman Empire on the 4th Crusade. Nobody ever thought the “Byzantine” empire was ever different from Rome at that time. The Sultanate of Rum demonstrates the Seljuks considered Eastern Rome to be ‘Roman’. When Memed finished them off he was proclaimed Caeser of Rome. This lie was fabricated by the Catholic Church (still in Italy) who crowned Charlemagne as a Devine ruler and appointed by God as emperor of the “Romans” in retaliation to the Orthodox Church breaking away and diminishing the Churches power. The east controlled far more wealth so the Catholic Church could not risk losing religious authority too and thus this lie was born. Every source refers to the Romans as just that EXCEPT Catholics who call them Greeks which is hilarious as the empire never just spoke Latin and the east always spoke Greek...
Unfortunately for us (I'm a Canadian that used to live near Windsor on the other side of the river) he does have a point, as much as it pains me to admit. Detroit was the wealthiest city in the US at one point. Today Windsor is nicknamed "Canada's unemployment capital", which is an alarming turn of events.
Ancient Rome, the city, is so well known. There is even a model of it, and computer simulation videos of walking through it. But, Constantinople is not so well known. It would also be good if there was a model of it, and those videos.
Your lectures are absolutely informative, entertaining & addictive! I'm well past high school, but during my time there I was able to sleep through every history class. The teachers in the beginning would try and surprise me with questions. Like "when did the Roman empire fall?" And I would reply "476ad, but it could be easily argued that an arbitrary date such as when Romulus was ousted by the Visigoths isn't an accurate way to define the true death of Rome. While also that date completely ignores the existence of the eastern Roman empire......" Lol after that and the fact I aced everything in their syllabus they'd usually relent ad let me sleep
I've heard it said that the ancients had no concept of or name for the color blue . How does that opinion gibe with the centuries of popularity of the racing team called The Blues ?
FYI, there are no significant tides in the Mediterranean. There may be some weird interactions between the Black Sea and Marmara Sea i'm not aware of tho, but in terms of pure tide, it's like 1m tops.
Florence had a larger cathedral in the 1400s. Even today, Florence's cathedral (the duomo) is bigger than the Hagia Sophia. You should edit that if you can. Also, the dome of the Pantheon in Rome was and is larger than that of the Hagia Sophia. The Pantheon's dome remained the largest in the world until the Florence Cathedral surpassed it.
It wasn't the "Roman" army but the Greek-Byzantine army! The Romans were comfortably seating at their tables, eating spaghetti and sipping their wine when Contantinople fell
@@valtontony826 coming from people like you this "Byzantium was Eastern Rome stop whining" it makes me fight even stronger for the truth that you are purposefully trying to falsify and distort! Because you seem to be the usual Greek hater and anti Greek-Byzantine bigot! And you are either a nationalistic Albanian or a nationalistic Turk. And this "Kossovo Jihad" video is one of your favorite videos in your channel: th-cam.com/video/b0iKhL6rSUQ/w-d-xo.html
@@ThomasGazis Byzantines empire was literally eastern Roman empire, do you not know of the great schism? At the time when ottomans came the Byzantines were to weak and divided because of infighting which made Byzantine empire one state
@@Μπρο Well, you cant say after arabs and slavic invasion they only were greeks considering the number of armenians, isaurian and others ethnicity that were still present you can hoewever say they were only greeks after the sack of constantnople because after that yes you had only greeks lands but before that point a ot of emperors where armenians, they had the bulgares under Basil II, the thracians were still around considering alexios I is beleived to be from thracian decent, and you still had some siaurian, syrians like Leo III, so no i wont say it was greek just because it taked greek language and my point is even stronger when you considere greek language was always the most talked anguage in the roman empire FROM THE START and thus is consquence of the greek colonisaiton of most of the mediteranean long before rome even move out of italy romans during the classical times did love latin yes but it wasnt taked everywhere in the empire unlike greek and when the west fell most of the latin talking ppl werent in the empire anymore so why bother with a langauge that no one use? (even if some documents were still wrote in greek untill the 12th century!!!) and again why latin is so important? i mean why considere the shift of language like "no longer be roman" language is not what definish the romans in the first place what definish it is their laws, their instituions, their armies, their imperial culte (which didnt changed much when they adopted chistainity) and their multi-ethnnicity and ofc their cities all the things the so called "byzantine" did continue
@@Μπρο The Isaurians were seen as barbarians and were not that much helienized actually they were kinda different, but its not about the siaurians like the so called isaurian dynastie that i tak about (that were in fact syrians) but more like Zeno that they called zeno the barbarian and others, well Latin was mother language mostly in the west and not really in the east which again was were the richest provinces were axtually, and here we will go around a subject that actually Basil I talked about himself in his letter to Louis II which is : Romans had no ethnicity or "gens" they werent roman gens for the romans and thus from the start thats why they considered themselves above all the ones they considered being parts of gens untill they got romnaized, by saying "they werent romans ethnycally" is saying that even back to the old empire egyptians werent romans, spannish werent etc but they were Diocletian was a true roman Zeno was a true roman but they werent from italy at all I dont get what you mean by they werent fully roman like the "old empire used to be" countries, empires, evolve with times like languages evolves like socities evolve but they are still the same country and follow the same ideas You can argue the Bulgarians werent the byzantine core and did not want to..well did carthage wanted to? did gauls wanted to? its the whole point of romanisation the thing is bulgarian didnt stay in roman hands long enought even if you had still a lot of thracians out there and bulgarians also actually claimed to be romans for a time
I would say that the Byzantines have a strong claim to be Romans, since they went as far as to call themselves the hoi Romanoi in Greek. There was some significant historical evolution over time, but institutionally, the Byzantines preserved more of the forms and institutions of the Roman Empire than anywhere else in the world and I can't think of very many strong counterarguments against their claim to be Roman.
@@ThersitestheHistorian Thanks for your answer =) I wanted to know your pov because i did made resarches and came across the dispute between the byzantines and the germanics empires on the claims to be romans and i was verry amused because the dispute was the same i had many itmes with friends or ppl on the internet that told me that the byzantine cant be considered romans that it fell in 476 and thats it etc....which make me annoyed and its why i dontl ike the ter byzantine in itslef because ppl use it to de-romafie them =/
@@PterarchosAeroporias525 Well, i dont think it is really linked the chirstainity you know being roman or not or greek or not christainity was an evolution the roman empire took on them and they didnt forced it that much (yes they were persecution agaisnt non chistians under Theodosius but at this point christanity was already a big majority) it is not like rome had enforced christianity from the top to the citizens they actaully did opposite with paganism being more and more forced into the ppl being slowly more and more christians, its really shown as something they couldnt stop, and i do understand why the ppl did choose christainity over the old reigion it is actually verry simple and i think lot of ppl from the modern world forget it (thoses who reject it mostly) they forget that the old gods of old religion were not nice and didnt forgive and mostly just punished comited adultaries and orgies while the god of christanity is all about forgivness and be cleansed of sins (i dont talk about the one of the old testament but the one of the new testament who is christ) the goal of chirstainity is to be like christ as good as him and also it is not a warmonging religion i know lot of ppl will point out crusades to say it was bad or point out all the popes did or that ppl beleived earth was flat (which is wrong) but all thoses things dont concern the orthodoxe greeks who didnt do any crusades but mosty defended their lands from muslims agressors and most of the bad things which was done on behalf of chirstanity was done by catholics and not orthodox but yeah i dont really get why ppl would reject the byzantine because of religion not like the old one was more peacefull or "better" it wasnt it is just that nowdays ppl are edonistics and egotistic and think thoses gods are better because focus on more materialistics and individuals things (which is how ppl are today)
Sure, I'll explain. The name Tsarigrad/Цариград comes from the Slavic name for the city. It in literal translation means "Emperor's City" or "City of Emperors", as the Tsar means Emperor in most Slavic languages and grad means city. Actually, even today most of us Slavs use the name Tsarigrad often when we refer to the Constantinople.
Game of Thrones in the ha'penny place compared to the Byzantines. The History of Byzantines by John Julius Norwich is better than any fiction. You'll love it!
Constantine would have had likely British blood in his veins. Probably through his mother which is also where his Christian influence came from. He was declared Augustus by his fathers loyal legions in the fortress city of York which while not the capital of the north western empire was where the north western Ceasars choose to rule from.
Helios, Not Apollo. The nude statue of Constantine faced east towards the sunrise. Helios carried the sun, Helios the sun chuffer, and there for the servant of the Sun, as was Constantine the servant of the Son or was it the Sun.
Constantinople: The Capital Of The Eastern Roman Empire... &... Rome: The Capital Of The Western Roman Empire... Together they are the Legs Of Iron Supported By Feet Of Clay in King Nubucanezzar's (sp?) dream about seeing a statue (as mentioned in Holy Scripture): the split empire.
Instead of fighting each other, the Russians and Ukrainians should join forces and liberate Constantinople from the infidel Turks. All other Christian nations in Europe, especially the Orthodox ones, should support this holy crusade as well!
Because the western powers were threatened by a unified orthodox empire and ceded it to the Turks even though the Turks murdered over 3 million people during this time via genocide and jihad.
The Ottoman Empire collapsed after World War I ended in 1918. Since they had supported the Central Powers during the war, the victorious Allies stripped them of most of their territory. All that was left was Anatolia, which is modern day Turkey. Since Constantinople had been their capital for centuries, they were allowed to keep the city, which is now called Istanbul.
It has been occupied by British but at the end of independence war they left as they came. so no body allowed anything... Turks kept it. probably one of the differences between your people( if you are Irish )and the Turks. Maybe your nation can achieve something like this against British one day
@@davidantoniocamposbarros7528 that's your logic, not mine! The populations in Asia Minor (the main Byzantinine body of land, what we call today Turkey) not only spoke predominantly Greek but had also a Greek-Hellenistic identity, for which they were quite proud! So, the "Byzantium is Roman" advocates are claiming that in a single night the populations of Asia Minor dropped out their beloved Greek-Hellenistic identity in favor of the Latin Roman one! That's simply preposterous!
@Shattuck T. Springer well, I had to write it in English for everyone to understand. Not everybody speaks Roman or Greek. But you are right, it was New Rome, and became Eastern Roman Empire after the Schizm
@@elenilepouri7253 Look at me I am a mongol. Check my profile image. Straight up mongol genocide machine. The vermin of the world. Look at my face and hate me. Despise me. Fuck hate me even though it was the Venicians and the Franks that sacked that city and betrayed it. Fuck it just hate the mongol and leave the western envy alone!!!!!!!!!!!!!
"The Byzantine Empire, also known as the Eastern Roman Empire" You would have been accurate if you had said "the eastern half of the Roman Empire" because it was never known as the Byzantine Empire. That was a derogatory term made up by westerners because they refused to acknowledge it for political reasons. It is an insult to the Romans from that region even to this day to call them Byzantines.
My wife's family is Constantinopolitan! Their ancestors were living in Constantinople for centuries, long before the Ottoman Turks invaded and usurped the city. From what my inlaws have narrated me, they have always felt Greek "ROMIOI"! Never though "Romans". It is an insult to them to be called "Romans"...
@@soldatolacrimosa1868 the Greek word "Romios" is not identical to the Greek word "Romaios", which means "Roman". The Byzantines despised the Romans! Plus, my wife's family (a millennia old Constantinopolitan family) will be definitely offended is somebody calls them "Romans". They do not feel Romans, nor their ancestors ever felt Romans, but purely Greeks
@@ThomasGazis My family is half Greek, you are definitely wrong. Do you know the saying "Una Faccia, Una Razza" or ”Mia fatsa, mia ratsa,” or "μια φάτσα μια ράτσα". Or the english version which means "One Face, One Race". It is something Italians and Greeks say to one another because our cultures are so deeply entwined. The Greeks have always been part of Roman culture since the very beginning and vice versa. I fear you are either intentionally spreading false propaganda or your family doesn't know their history very well or has modern prejudices for some reason.
@@ThomasGazis Btw you probably didn't even know that Roman elites and royals spoke Greek and Latin was the language of the common man. Also there is no such people as Byzantines, they never existed. The eastern half of the empire remained Roman for another 1000 years after the west fell. They were always Romans and never "Byzantine". Byzantine is a term invented by westerners to delegitimize the Romans of the east.
How so? The worst periods was around 550 ad and the mid 1300s. Worse than both world wars as far as the average European and Anatolia is concerned. That was before Constantinople fell. It took Europe forever to get its chit together after Rome fell. Europe was a basket case of constant wars from 420 ad to 1945. IMO the end of the western Roman Empire was when the vandals under Gaiseric sacked Rome in 455 ad. Any Roman emperor after that was a puppet emperor under the control of Germanic mercenaries like the Ostrogoths.
@@nole8923 You need only take a look at the roads and streets to see. The empire built roads and aqueducts that still exist today. Then the "engineers" came. Remember that the next time you drive on your pot holed streets.
Not really, look at the ottomans for example, they reached their climax after the fall of Constantinople during the reign of sultan Suleiman the magnificent, it may have been a down hill slope for Romans/Greeks but not for the rest of the world
How did you get this far in your education and not learn how to pronounce ANY of the names of these peoples and places??? I mean, just a cursory or casual relationship with the languages and peoples of these regions, and you'd know how to pronounce so many of these terms.... it's a great paradox....
Bahahaha Constantine was a worshiper of the sun not a Christian. Sol invictus. Smh you got that so wrong. Yes Constantine changed the official religion to christianity, but also changed the holy day of it to Sunday the holy day of the worshipers of the sun. So basically he just manipulated Christians the roman way and stayed a pagan while rewiring everyone elses religion.
@@kiro6119 No, CE does exist. It is a scientific replacement for BC/AD because modern historians want to distance history from Christianity. The scientific terminology is BCE (before common era) and CE (common era).
@@maxscherer7579 If you want to make your own calendar go ahead, but simply changing AD to CE is just retarded because you feel insecure about it. Go create your own calendar and you can use any letters you want.
The virgin Game of Throne iron seat vs The chad Byzantine hydraulic seat
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The Eastern side Chalcedon has a bigger river than the western side. Therefore, it's easier for early people to establish a town in the east. The west needs complex aquaducts for water supply.
The west was a money drain =/ and always was carried by the east
@@AdriatheBwitch That's was the case with the Late Roman Empire
@@Boyd2342 Well, not only during the late roman times they always said that Britain on its own was a money drain from the start for exemple and verry badly managed
@@AdriatheBwitch You'd think after Boudicca Rome would've realized what a waste Britain was. Nero had the right of it when he proposed abandoning the province.
@@asddsdsssd Yeah....its not a coincidence it was the first part to be really abandonned during the fall (not like Dacia that was due to problmes with bordures) but britain was never really under roman control and was too unrully but yet they kept wanting to have a grasp on it =/
I'm very glad that found your YT channel thank so much for uploading those educational videos I would rate 10 out of 10, I'm your fan from north Iraq Kurdistan Zakho city.
Interesting overview of the City, would listen more of these.
Thanks
I love automation in throne room to aid in the shock and awe effect that visitors experienced when meeting the emperor for the first time. I heard that caliph of cordoba had a similar system in place for the same reasons which I would love hear more about in future videos. I also remember from the history channel that this trick was also employed by both Eygptian and Greek priests several centuries before for theatrical effect during temple worship. Sad how people today don't realize how advanced things actually were back then.
I am a Byzantine Greek from Anatolia! My grandparents called themselves Romans like all Greeks until the 60s and 70s
That’s pretty incredible. Sorry that Europe let Anatolia and Constantinople down when you needed them most in the Middle Ages and Renaissance period. IMO they should have given Anatolia to Greece at the end of WW1
Greeks have always been part of Rome even in Italy before Rome expanded. Greeks have a right to call themselves Roman.
Byzantine is a term created by Germans. There were never Byzantines, but Romans. Also, the term Roman became outdated after the Greek War of Independence (1821) not in the 60s.
@@nole8923 Who is giving what to who if I may ask?
And why stop there by the way? While you are at it ''give'' everything from Thrace right up to the base of the Indus River too since it is all rightfully theirs rite?
Funny comment by the way I laughed but with a hint of contempt.
@London Power Then your family would call themselves Rum.
Most of the monuments and buildings in Constantinople were destroyed by the Crusaders and the rest were destroyed by the Ottomans. All that is left of the ancient city are the Hagia Sophia, a few other scattered buildings, and a few columns. A sad end to a great and beautiful city.
Lol ottoman/ Turkey is one of few countries I know that preserves monuments, artifacts etc...which is more than I can say for the Western civilisations.. Ottoman Empire restored Hagia Sophia that was destroyed by crusaders... do proper research first ...
@@ae-ke3eu yes during the ''restoration'' some of the most briliant frescoes and mosaics were chizeled away or covered with jibberish
@@joek600 WW2 bombing ahm ahm... I traveled all Europe and most of monuments and buildings were rebuilt or destroyed especially in Germany. Also you can still find all these Roman Artifacts good preserved in Anatolia. Turks really care about history of others unlike Balkans who destroyed nearly everything about Turks and Ottomans. I am not fan of Turks but you Europeans are so racist against them. Don't believe me why don't you check out the photos taken by Getrude Bell archive.
@@joek600 I mean seriouly ? You people blame authorities and its people all together. For example, you saying "Ottoman is bad", well ok but Ottoman ruled with Monacrhy not democracy. If ottoman did something bad why do you include and blame Turks also. It is non sense. If Turks are so racist how could you live together for decades with no problem ? Also Turks I saw in Turkey are so friendly and kind. You also attack Turks through Erdogan but Erdogan is not Turkey he is just a president. Turks have more respect to other cultures than you westerners does. Most of things you present in your museums belong to other nations which you took from them by colonizing them. What kind of double standard is that ?
@@ae-ke3eu and then deceitfully calls all the monuments "Roman", to the unsuspected tourists - instead of calling them what they really are: Greek!
Very Interesting lectures! Keep it up Sir!
Thersites, have you had a chance to travel overseas and see this stuff in person (whether it be Istanbul, Greece, Italy, etc)?
If so, what was your favorite?
Unfortunately, I have not had the chance to go abroad.
@@ThersitestheHistorian i would literally shit my pants if i got to see that stuff in person LOL.
I saw some medieval/renaissance stuff in Germany and France but thats nothing compared to the ancient antiquity.
@@tacocruiser4238 Now is a horrible time to travel lol.
Pompeii is the place to visit my friends number one destination
Even just a visit to Rome is cool AF, can see different periods in history all right round the main town. It's pretty mind blowing :)
Do any designs, layouts or whatever exist of the throne rooms? Would love to see those and what they may have looked like.
Perhaps the Greeks who built Byzantion were more familiar with the Older city of Troy on the other side of the strait and didn’t want to build on its foundations in disrespect? It could’ve been like a tourist attraction.
Troy is to the west and is opposite the Gallipoli peninsula, there were multiple cities built near Troy
Just found out the name of your channel is inspired by the Iliad's character Thersites.
He was possibly the figure which impressed me the most when I studied the Iliad. I was pretty much of his reasoning and I remained shocked by how he was treated (beaten up) because he was brave enough to voice his opinion against a so far inconclusive and ruinous war.
Thank you so much for remembering this lonely figure by using his name.
Thersites was always the character who stood out the most to me, as well.
Ah yes, Ulysses beat him up for daring to question the war.
I was fortunate enough to have some history teachers that actually taught history, instead of warping it into one ideology or the next. Those teachers have long since retired, and doubtless passed away. May God bless their souls in the afterlife. But friends, that is the distance we have gone from having real history taught in our schools. And what breaks my heart even more is when people tell me it doesn't matter. That it is just past BS. Who cares? They do not know the first thing about why to understand it is crucial to moving forward! :)
Also it's wonderful just to talk about the past and examine the lives that were had back then, for interest's sake.
Would you consider doing a similar video on Ravenna when it was the capital of the Western Roman Empire and when it was part of the Byzantine empire?
Yeah ravenna and milan as capitals would be nice.
Both Ravenna and Milan are featured in the last video. For me to do a full video on either would entail going fairly deep into the Middle Ages to get enough material. I have more videos on Patreon of this kind and I plan to make still more, but I will be focusing primarily on Greek poleis.
@@ThersitestheHistorian thanks i'll watch that vid
This guy reads a text . He is not into it
Lol “ the Detroit of the Bosporus.”
Is there a "Flint of the Roman world?"
What did he mean by that?
@@Sandouras Detroit used to be a city thriving with industry. Now it’s run down and full of derelict buildings and slums
@@Insectoid_ Thanks for the explanation.
The difference is that Democrats were able to achieve total ruin in 40 years, whereas it took 1000 for the Romans. 🤣
So hey, Teach, if this is the last class of the semester when's the final exam gonna be? We doin a quiz or an essay? Give us the deets!
My suggestion is that Chalcedon was founded first, largely because it was close to a plentiful supply of fresh water, in the now rather polluted river that runs by Fenerbahce football stadium. It was harder to defend from the land than Byzantion, being founded on top of a relatively gentle hill on the landward side. Frensh water supply was always a problem for Byzantion, exacerbated as it grew, which is why there are so many huge water storage cisterns there. These are not apparent in Chalcedon.
Chalcedon *wasn't* very well situated strategically. This is why a legend grew up in the Eastern Empire that people tended to suffer from blindness: they supposedly couldn't see the far more favourable sight just across the water.
Actually the “Eastern Roman Empire” ceased to exist after the end of the last Western Emperor Romulus Augustus. His Western Imperial regalia was sent to the Eastern Emperor Zeno in Constantinople, all remaining Imperial territories were reunited into a single Roman Empire, and both Western & Eastern Roman Empires ceased to exist. Constantinople became capital of one whole reunited Roman Empire, not “Eastern” empire.
No. That’s what a German catholic over 100 years after Constantinople said to rewrite the fact Catholics sacked and dismembered the Roman Empire on the 4th Crusade. Nobody ever thought the “Byzantine” empire was ever different from Rome at that time. The Sultanate of Rum demonstrates the Seljuks considered Eastern Rome to be ‘Roman’. When Memed finished them off he was proclaimed Caeser of Rome. This lie was fabricated by the Catholic Church (still in Italy) who crowned Charlemagne as a Devine ruler and appointed by God as emperor of the “Romans” in retaliation to the Orthodox Church breaking away and diminishing the Churches power. The east controlled far more wealth so the Catholic Church could not risk losing religious authority too and thus this lie was born. Every source refers to the Romans as just that EXCEPT Catholics who call them Greeks which is hilarious as the empire never just spoke Latin and the east always spoke Greek...
Thats completely false.
Very interesting concept indeed
Actually became shithole after 1204 when the latins took over
I should be mad at the Detroit reference around 13:52, but it was so spot on 100% true that I actually did Laugh out Loud. Great video.
Unfortunately for us (I'm a Canadian that used to live near Windsor on the other side of the river) he does have a point, as much as it pains me to admit. Detroit was the wealthiest city in the US at one point.
Today Windsor is nicknamed "Canada's unemployment capital", which is an alarming turn of events.
Ancient Rome, the city, is so well known. There is even a model of it, and computer simulation videos of walking through it. But, Constantinople is not so well known. It would also be good if there was a model of it, and those videos.
Your lectures are absolutely informative, entertaining & addictive! I'm well past high school, but during my time there I was able to sleep through every history class. The teachers in the beginning would try and surprise me with questions. Like "when did the Roman empire fall?" And I would reply "476ad, but it could be easily argued that an arbitrary date such as when Romulus was ousted by the Visigoths isn't an accurate way to define the true death of Rome. While also that date completely ignores the existence of the eastern Roman empire......" Lol after that and the fact I aced everything in their syllabus they'd usually relent ad let me sleep
You should've punched out your teachers teeth. Teach him/her a fkn lesson
Good job mister
I've heard it said that the ancients had no concept of or name for the color blue . How does that opinion gibe with the centuries of popularity of the racing team called The Blues ?
FYI, there are no significant tides in the Mediterranean. There may be some weird interactions between the Black Sea and Marmara Sea i'm not aware of tho, but in terms of pure tide, it's like 1m tops.
Good informative video, however the city was named Byzantium not Byzanton.
-UM is a latin suffix, -ON is a greek one. Both are correct.
Could you please name the cathedral in Spain that you mentioned that was bigger than the Hagia Sophia ?
Seville Cathedral
What do you think is the major language for the people in Constantinople in 540? Latin or mostly Greek
Florence had a larger cathedral in the 1400s. Even today, Florence's cathedral (the duomo) is bigger than the Hagia Sophia. You should edit that if you can. Also, the dome of the Pantheon in Rome was and is larger than that of the Hagia Sophia. The Pantheon's dome remained the largest in the world until the Florence Cathedral surpassed it.
do you have in mind the year of construction of Hagia Sofia compared to Florence??
Could you do one of this about ctsphon or we dont have enough information
If you cant please do one about baghdad or ray
Ctesiphon and Baghdad may be doable, but I don't know for certain until I do the research.
I feel like this buildings architecture says 'middle fingers up'
A wonder to behold, Constantinople was!
Thanks
Gloria eterna a Bisanzio 👑⚔️✝️
8:24 - *Holy sh!t!*_ _And I thought this was gonna be boring..._
During the epic siege a Scottish Knight led the counter mining operations against the Turkish army
The roman army praised him to high renown
It wasn't the "Roman" army but the Greek-Byzantine army! The Romans were comfortably seating at their tables, eating spaghetti and sipping their wine when Contantinople fell
@@ThomasGazis bro it was eastern Rome, stop whining
@@valtontony826 coming from people like you this "Byzantium was Eastern Rome stop whining" it makes me fight even stronger for the truth that you are purposefully trying to falsify and distort! Because you seem to be the usual Greek hater and anti Greek-Byzantine bigot!
And you are either a nationalistic Albanian or a nationalistic Turk. And this "Kossovo Jihad" video is one of your favorite videos in your channel:
th-cam.com/video/b0iKhL6rSUQ/w-d-xo.html
@@ThomasGazis Byzantines empire was literally eastern Roman empire, do you not know of the great schism? At the time when ottomans came the Byzantines were to weak and divided because of infighting which made Byzantine empire one state
Thersites the Historian do you considere the "byzantine" to be still romans or not? because i do have issues with a lot of ppl about this
@@Μπρο Well, you cant say after arabs and slavic invasion they only were greeks considering the number of armenians, isaurian and others ethnicity that were still present you can hoewever say they were only greeks after the sack of constantnople because after that yes you had only greeks lands but before that point a ot of emperors where armenians, they had the bulgares under Basil II, the thracians were still around considering alexios I is beleived to be from thracian decent, and you still had some siaurian, syrians like Leo III, so no i wont say it was greek just because it taked greek language and my point is even stronger when you considere greek language was always the most talked anguage in the roman empire FROM THE START and thus is consquence of the greek colonisaiton of most of the mediteranean long before rome even move out of italy romans during the classical times did love latin yes but it wasnt taked everywhere in the empire unlike greek and when the west fell most of the latin talking ppl werent in the empire anymore so why bother with a langauge that no one use? (even if some documents were still wrote in greek untill the 12th century!!!) and again why latin is so important? i mean why considere the shift of language like "no longer be roman" language is not what definish the romans in the first place what definish it is their laws, their instituions, their armies, their imperial culte (which didnt changed much when they adopted chistainity) and their multi-ethnnicity and ofc their cities all the things the so called "byzantine" did continue
@@Μπρο The Isaurians were seen as barbarians and were not that much helienized actually they were kinda different, but its not about the siaurians like the so called isaurian dynastie that i tak about (that were in fact syrians) but more like Zeno that they called zeno the barbarian and others, well Latin was mother language mostly in the west and not really in the east which again was were the richest provinces were axtually, and here we will go around a subject that actually Basil I talked about himself in his letter to Louis II which is : Romans had no ethnicity or "gens" they werent roman gens for the romans and thus from the start thats why they considered themselves above all the ones they considered being parts of gens untill they got romnaized, by saying "they werent romans ethnycally" is saying that even back to the old empire egyptians werent romans, spannish werent etc but they were Diocletian was a true roman Zeno was a true roman but they werent from italy at all
I dont get what you mean by they werent fully roman like the "old empire used to be" countries, empires, evolve with times like languages evolves like socities evolve but they are still the same country and follow the same ideas
You can argue the Bulgarians werent the byzantine core and did not want to..well did carthage wanted to? did gauls wanted to? its the whole point of romanisation the thing is bulgarian didnt stay in roman hands long enought even if you had still a lot of thracians out there and bulgarians also actually claimed to be romans for a time
I would say that the Byzantines have a strong claim to be Romans, since they went as far as to call themselves the hoi Romanoi in Greek. There was some significant historical evolution over time, but institutionally, the Byzantines preserved more of the forms and institutions of the Roman Empire than anywhere else in the world and I can't think of very many strong counterarguments against their claim to be Roman.
@@ThersitestheHistorian Thanks for your answer =) I wanted to know your pov because i did made resarches and came across the dispute between the byzantines and the germanics empires on the claims to be romans and i was verry amused because the dispute was the same i had many itmes with friends or ppl on the internet that told me that the byzantine cant be considered romans that it fell in 476 and thats it etc....which make me annoyed and its why i dontl ike the ter byzantine in itslef because ppl use it to de-romafie them =/
@@PterarchosAeroporias525 Well, i dont think it is really linked the chirstainity you know being roman or not or greek or not christainity was an evolution the roman empire took on them and they didnt forced it that much (yes they were persecution agaisnt non chistians under Theodosius but at this point christanity was already a big majority) it is not like rome had enforced christianity from the top to the citizens they actaully did opposite with paganism being more and more forced into the ppl being slowly more and more christians, its really shown as something they couldnt stop, and i do understand why the ppl did choose christainity over the old reigion it is actually verry simple and i think lot of ppl from the modern world forget it (thoses who reject it mostly) they forget that the old gods of old religion were not nice and didnt forgive and mostly just punished comited adultaries and orgies while the god of christanity is all about forgivness and be cleansed of sins (i dont talk about the one of the old testament but the one of the new testament who is christ) the goal of chirstainity is to be like christ as good as him and also it is not a warmonging religion i know lot of ppl will point out crusades to say it was bad or point out all the popes did or that ppl beleived earth was flat (which is wrong) but all thoses things dont concern the orthodoxe greeks who didnt do any crusades but mosty defended their lands from muslims agressors and most of the bad things which was done on behalf of chirstanity was done by catholics and not orthodox but yeah i dont really get why ppl would reject the byzantine because of religion not like the old one was more peacefull or "better" it wasnt it is just that nowdays ppl are edonistics and egotistic and think thoses gods are better because focus on more materialistics and individuals things (which is how ppl are today)
Now, I know the capital of Turkey is Istanbul, situated in the
strategic point of
the European Union and the Mediterranean .
Imteressante
Does anybody know why at some point was called Tsarigrad , Цариград.?(👌💯☀️
Sure, I'll explain. The name Tsarigrad/Цариград comes from the Slavic name for the city. It in literal translation means "Emperor's City" or "City of Emperors", as the Tsar means Emperor in most Slavic languages and grad means city. Actually, even today most of us Slavs use the name Tsarigrad often when we refer to the Constantinople.
@@justinian-the-great thanks 👍, I've heard that there was Slavic Royalty line goin on in that place in some centuries throughout.
Game of Thrones in the ha'penny place compared to the Byzantines. The History of Byzantines by John Julius Norwich is better than any fiction. You'll love it!
Recently reclassified as a religious site. As of 30/11/21.
Hagia Sophia that is.
Constantines burthplace is now Serbia. Nis ..It was Nassius in the past...Roman Empire was split between Greeks/ Romans..
I'm thinking that George R R Martin learned some Byzantine history when writing Game of Thrones to get some insanity.
The Roman Empire in general yes
Constantine would have had likely British blood in his veins. Probably through his mother which is also where his Christian influence came from. He was declared Augustus by his fathers loyal legions in the fortress city of York which while not the capital of the north western empire was where the north western Ceasars choose to rule from.
No, he was born in actual Serbia. He didn't go to Britain until he's father was part of the tetrarchy
@@Bronn92 Thank you learn something new every day. He did grow up in the city of York though.
Bro u good?
@@davidantoniocamposbarros7528 wha? You being facetious? "Bra"?
There was a city on eastern side, the city of the blind
Why did Constantinople get the works?
That's nobody's business but the Turks.
Helios, Not Apollo. The nude statue of Constantine faced east towards the sunrise. Helios carried the sun, Helios the sun chuffer, and there for the servant of the Sun, as was Constantine the servant of the Son or was it the Sun.
Did this guy read ,Gibbons’ “decline and fall of the Roman Empire “?
why is the one minaret not like the others?
Coz everye each minaret build in diffrent sultans time.
Another part of scotlands hidden history
Nowadays in Palestine. They ask an Orthodox Christian in Arabic simply: "'are you Roman?"
Constantinople: The Capital Of The Eastern Roman Empire...
&...
Rome: The Capital Of The Western Roman Empire...
Together they are the Legs Of Iron Supported By Feet Of Clay in King Nubucanezzar's (sp?) dream about seeing a statue (as mentioned in Holy Scripture): the split empire.
Capital..
@@enricomanno8434 ,
Thank you; I edited to correct that repeated error.
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@@michaeltaylor8501 It happened to me many times...
Instead of fighting each other, the Russians and Ukrainians should join forces and liberate Constantinople from the infidel Turks. All other Christian nations in Europe, especially the Orthodox ones, should support this holy crusade as well!
Why don't you do a lecture on the sultanate of rum the third Rome ...
When ottoman empire collapsed, why were the Turks allowed to keep the city?
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Because the western powers were threatened by a unified orthodox empire and ceded it to the Turks even though the Turks murdered over 3 million people during this time via genocide and jihad.
Coz we fight 4 it till last drop of our blood.
The Ottoman Empire collapsed after World War I ended in 1918. Since they had supported the Central Powers during the war, the victorious Allies stripped them of most of their territory. All that was left was Anatolia, which is modern day Turkey. Since Constantinople had been their capital for centuries, they were allowed to keep the city, which is now called Istanbul.
It has been occupied by British but at the end of independence war they left as they came. so no body allowed anything... Turks kept it. probably one of the differences between your people( if you are Irish )and the Turks. Maybe your nation can achieve something like this against British one day
"Roman Empire" is the correct one, "Byzantine Empire" is a misnomer (Encyclopedia Americana)
But it wasn't a "Roman" empire! Especially after the 6th century it was predominantly Greek!
@@ThomasGazis by the same logic, every Irish person is British just because they speak English
@@davidantoniocamposbarros7528 that's your logic, not mine! The populations in Asia Minor (the main Byzantinine body of land, what we call today Turkey) not only spoke predominantly Greek but had also a Greek-Hellenistic identity, for which they were quite proud! So, the "Byzantium is Roman" advocates are claiming that in a single night the populations of Asia Minor dropped out their beloved Greek-Hellenistic identity in favor of the Latin Roman one! That's simply preposterous!
Ouch. That Detroit comment. Lol.
Wrong . The pantheon has the larger dome at 143 ft. Hagia Sophia is 108 ft . But is much higher from the ground .
The former*
Why does he need to run away from Rome and make a new Rome?
Not eastern Rome, it was called New Rome
@Shattuck T. Springer well, I had to write it in English for everyone to understand. Not everybody speaks Roman or Greek. But you are right, it was New Rome, and became Eastern Roman Empire after the Schizm
Latin*
@@mak_m3788 the term "Eastern Roman Empire" isn't wrong though. It literally was the Roman Empire but in it's eastern provinces
@@davidantoniocamposbarros7528 no very it’s accurate
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Did slave's build the city
Isn't that a statue of Valentinian I in the University pic?
1453😏
You mongols had norhing .
@@elenilepouri7253 it was prophesied that Constantinople will be conquered, nothing you can do about it
@@Bellasrius Μαλακιες
@@elenilepouri7253 English mate, no one speaks Greek here
@@elenilepouri7253 Look at me I am a mongol. Check my profile image. Straight up mongol genocide machine. The vermin of the world. Look at my face and hate me. Despise me. Fuck hate me even though it was the Venicians and the Franks that sacked that city and betrayed it. Fuck it just hate the mongol and leave the western envy alone!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Let’s not forget the cannon maker was Hungarian. The Eastern Roman emperor could not afford his price for defensive cannon
Effin Islame . . .
Capital Of Byzantine Ni Rome
Byzantine is a term used by germanic virgins
I will buy all this
Downvoted because of the usage of "CE"
Byzantium not Constantinople,Now it's Byzantium not Constantinople.
A few people understand what this city means to global civilization. Soon justice will return. Its pure geopolitics.
BC and AD. Anything else is academic onanism.
Everyone needs to read Edward Gibbon’s “ Decline and Fall of the Roman Empire “ . Spend the money . Don’t get your information from ………
"The Byzantine Empire, also known as the Eastern Roman Empire" You would have been accurate if you had said "the eastern half of the Roman Empire" because it was never known as the Byzantine Empire. That was a derogatory term made up by westerners because they refused to acknowledge it for political reasons. It is an insult to the Romans from that region even to this day to call them Byzantines.
My wife's family is Constantinopolitan! Their ancestors were living in Constantinople for centuries, long before the Ottoman Turks invaded and usurped the city. From what my inlaws have narrated me, they have always felt Greek "ROMIOI"! Never though "Romans". It is an insult to them to be called "Romans"...
@@ThomasGazis You claim your wife is Greek and yet you don't even know that Romioi is the Greek word for Roman.
@@soldatolacrimosa1868 the Greek word "Romios" is not identical to the Greek word "Romaios", which means "Roman". The Byzantines despised the Romans! Plus, my wife's family (a millennia old Constantinopolitan family) will be definitely offended is somebody calls them "Romans". They do not feel Romans, nor their ancestors ever felt Romans, but purely Greeks
@@ThomasGazis My family is half Greek, you are definitely wrong. Do you know the saying "Una Faccia, Una Razza" or ”Mia fatsa, mia ratsa,” or "μια φάτσα μια ράτσα". Or the english version which means "One Face, One Race". It is something Italians and Greeks say to one another because our cultures are so deeply entwined. The Greeks have always been part of Roman culture since the very beginning and vice versa. I fear you are either intentionally spreading false propaganda or your family doesn't know their history very well or has modern prejudices for some reason.
@@ThomasGazis Btw you probably didn't even know that Roman elites and royals spoke Greek and Latin was the language of the common man. Also there is no such people as Byzantines, they never existed. The eastern half of the empire remained Roman for another 1000 years after the west fell. They were always Romans and never "Byzantine". Byzantine is a term invented by westerners to delegitimize the Romans of the east.
Sir . Did I hear you insult Constantine 1 ? A greater man than Y O U
If you ask me civilization got way worse when Constantinople fell.
How so? The worst periods was around 550 ad and the mid 1300s. Worse than both world wars as far as the average European and Anatolia is concerned. That was before Constantinople fell. It took Europe forever to get its chit together after Rome fell. Europe was a basket case of constant wars from 420 ad to 1945. IMO the end of the western Roman Empire was when the vandals under Gaiseric sacked Rome in 455 ad. Any Roman emperor after that was a puppet emperor under the control of Germanic mercenaries like the Ostrogoths.
@@nole8923 You need only take a look at the roads and streets to see. The empire built roads and aqueducts that still exist today. Then the "engineers" came. Remember that the next time you drive on your pot holed streets.
Not really, look at the ottomans for example, they reached their climax after the fall of Constantinople during the reign of sultan Suleiman the magnificent, it may have been a down hill slope for Romans/Greeks but not for the rest of the world
Let’s see … 535 units a European church was built Bigger 1000 years later !!!!!
How did you get this far in your education and not learn how to pronounce ANY of the names of these peoples and places??? I mean, just a cursory or casual relationship with the languages and peoples of these regions, and you'd know how to pronounce so many of these terms.... it's a great paradox....
Bahahaha Constantine was a worshiper of the sun not a Christian.
Sol invictus. Smh you got that so wrong. Yes Constantine changed the official religion to christianity, but also changed the holy day of it to Sunday the holy day of the worshipers of the sun.
So basically he just manipulated Christians the roman way and stayed a pagan while rewiring everyone elses religion.
Istanbul .. Constantinople doesn't excist anymore
Minor spelling mistake. You have now lost your commenting privileges
Istanbul was Constantinople, now it’s Istanbul not Constantinople.
It was and will ever be Constantinpole
ANOTHER FUCKING RADIO PROGRAM, ON TH-cam,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,SCREW IT !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
wtf is CE lol
Common era
@@maxscherer7579 It's called AD, CE doesn't exist
@@kiro6119 No, CE does exist. It is a scientific replacement for BC/AD because modern historians want to distance history from Christianity. The scientific terminology is BCE (before common era) and CE (common era).
@@maxscherer7579 If you want to make your own calendar go ahead, but simply changing AD to CE is just retarded because you feel insecure about it. Go create your own calendar and you can use any letters you want.
@@kiro6119 You have got to be joking. Literally just google it, it takes about five seconds 🙃.
You mean used to be the eastern capital of Rome. Now it belongs to us🇹🇷
Who is this us
İSTANBUL not constantinople .
No
@@British_monarchist istanbul not Constantineople
İstanbul is not constantinople
You say Constantinople, I say the city in Turkish.
No
@@francismigs2224 I S T A N B O W L
@@yunleung2631 Constantinople you turk
@@francismigs2224 no, hes a riceman
That’s where you’re wrong kiddo.
I thought it was called Byzantium
There is no eastern it is the capital of all the empire !
Why did Constantinople get the works?