Converging Apostasy: From Jane Lead to Christian Identity - Episode 108 Wm. Branham Research

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  • @ivanasimic2072
    @ivanasimic2072 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

    Watching second time and sharing here in Croatia. This is a MUST to listen and really hear the truth. So much strings of bondage by false teaching is broken by these truts. I came from word of faith and had no idea in that time, 30 years ago, what is that. Finaly I connect the docts to help me heal and to be set free more and more. This is absolutely right time God´s work. God is using people like you to let His people free from that "black widow spider" web. God bless you both from the bottom of my heart!!

  • @magicalmysterychurch3424
    @magicalmysterychurch3424 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +14

    So looking forward to this! 😃

    • @briandash-eb9vh
      @briandash-eb9vh 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Hello Laura good to see you on this channel 😊

    • @magicalmysterychurch3424
      @magicalmysterychurch3424 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

      @@briandash-eb9vh
      I love this channel! So thankful for John Collins and his valuable research!

  • @lauriaendy4595
    @lauriaendy4595 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

    This is seriously troubling! Thanks you for exposing this!

  • @karencrawley7377
    @karencrawley7377 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +10

    So interesting. Thank you. Came out of NAR & learning so much.

  • @jerichafleishell1155
    @jerichafleishell1155 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Really appreciate your diligence and professionalism. 😊

  • @GeraldineJohnson-ns5il
    @GeraldineJohnson-ns5il 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

    I can't wait to see this! Great work from both of you. Get well soon, John and praying for Stephen and his family.

  • @CorgisRClever
    @CorgisRClever 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +10

    Thank you talking about this!

  • @suechapel1443
    @suechapel1443 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    This is info I never learned when I was in it 😮

    • @trinidad2450
      @trinidad2450 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Wow! I’m so glad you’re now out.

    • @stevemontgomeryunheardofgu2759
      @stevemontgomeryunheardofgu2759 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Yeah, even if they did tell you about any of these things, being on the "inside" makes it hard to see the forest for the trees.

  • @lesliewells-ig5dl
    @lesliewells-ig5dl 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    Thanks, John and Steve, for another great podcast. I can't wait till next week!!

  • @libertylarochelle8517
    @libertylarochelle8517 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Thank you John.and Steve. ❤ 🇦🇺

  • @deonvanloggerenberg3711
    @deonvanloggerenberg3711 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

    This is going to be a good one....

  • @NNaadah
    @NNaadah 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

    I did a research project on "Protocols...." origin for a longer Bible study I've been working on for several years now. Allegedly, "Protocols..." goes back into the early 19th century. It claims to be a secret document that was "found" in a Masonic lodge in France that allegedly Napoleon was a member of that lodge. The story is that Napoleon brought Masonism to France.
    The story from the 1830's, is that "Protocols..." came from Egyptian rabbis. And this was claimed by a 33 degree Mason who was a founder of this lodge; and allegedly he was Jewish. The Mason lodge in question was instituted by Napoleon. (Mazraim Masonic Lodge in Paris.)
    It is said by some; (as we get closer to the 20th Century and WWI) that "Protocols..." was plagiarized from an earlier writing. The forgery was said to be from Maurice Joly's "Dialogue in Hell Between Machiavelli and Montesquieu" which was published in 1864. Joly's work was alleged to be a satirical allegory, with Machiavelli substituting for Napoleon.
    Jump ahead to 1920 and an article in "American Hebrew Magazine" (Jewish publication) entitled "Our own Protocols"; claims "Protocols..." is a "centuries old Jewish writing". As subsequent article in the same paper ""Articles from Protocols" expose'. The second article also claims the Jews invented the Masons, as well as the Mormons. (There are a lot of similarities between the Mormons and the Masons; who both have similarities to Kabbalism.
    Anyhow, American Hebrew Magazine (which in 1984 changed it's name to "Washington Jewish Week" and I believe is still in current publication) though it claims "Protocols..." as a "Jewish document"; they do not hold "Protocols..," in any favorable light and state too that they condemn anyone (Jewish or not) who's trying to use a certain set of teachings to take over the world. If you ever read "Protocols..." it does contain steps in how to conduct what we would call in modern political speak a "color revolution". Similar ideologies can also be found in works like Marx's "Communist Manifesto". Also Orwell's "1984" mirrors the "steps to conquer the world" written in "Protocols...." "Protocols.... was a very well read piece of political literature in the early 20th century.
    "Protocols..." became extremely popular in the early 20th century and was said to be given to a British spy by a relative of Czar Nicolas prior to the outbreak of the Bolshevik revolution.
    Which presents another interesting caveat to this story; as the British got.... a bit burned by publications that were being made in newspapers of the day (London Times / New York Times) who were getting information from another paper called "Jewish World" about alleged atrocities of "6 million" and "holocaust" happening in Czarist Russia. These stories date back to the 1890's. (Long before Hitler was even born.) Well 3 British consulates independently investigated these allegations. All three came up with nothing of "Russian Progroms".
    A few decades later (post Russian Revolution) the same accusations began to hit the papers, although this time against the Ottoman Empire. Although with this, there had been found to be atrocities happening (Armenian Christians were being martyred.) The Jews were blaming this on the Turkish government and the Turkish government were blaming it on the Jews. Granted there was civil unrest in Turkey; which out of this internal civil war came the original "Young Turks" (news source) political movement.
    So the "6 million" and "holocaust" continued in American newspapers going back to before WWI. Which certainly set the stage for by the time WWII rolled around; there was no "military actions" taken against German labor camps because none of the allies believed the allegations of atrocities anyways. (They had plenty of reconnaissance photos and no evidence.)
    So..... as one can imagine; there are a lot of rabbit holes one could go down with the history of all of this. Which when you understand the prevalence of racist ideologies that existed between 1840 and the aftermath of WWII; doctrines like Anglo-Isrealism make more historical contextual sense. Far more of societies in general were more openly racist than most "civilized" people would admit to today. (Eugenics and the abortion industry - there's another deep rabbit hole!)
    Clear evidence that we live in a fallen world encumbered by sin.
    But as I tell anyone. Don't believe what myself or anyone else says. Do your own historical research in this stuff.
    👍 (Informative episode!)

    • @woobiefuntime
      @woobiefuntime 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Check out the Russian group called the black 100

    • @stevemontgomeryunheardofgu2759
      @stevemontgomeryunheardofgu2759 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Hi NNaadah. Here's an excerpt from The Converging Apostasy. "The Protocols of the Learned Elders of Zion...is based on French political satirist Maurice Joly’s The Dialogue in Hell Between Machiavelli and Montesquieu. The Dialogue never mentions Jews, but much of it is based on the same ideas found in the Protocols."

  • @bryanwmelvin435
    @bryanwmelvin435 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Excellent !

  • @lesliewells-ig5dl
    @lesliewells-ig5dl 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    I found a video about Jane Lead on the channel called CenSamm.. The video is called Ariel Hessayon-Jane Lead and the Philadelphia Society. It includes some biographical information about her and i saw so many parallels between her teachings and WMBs. This whole subject is fascinating!!

    • @stevemontgomeryunheardofgu2759
      @stevemontgomeryunheardofgu2759 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I agree. Take a look at my critiques of her writings in The Converging Apostasy. You will see several themes that have taken up in the NAR, especially those concerning "hands-on" eschatology. Here's a sample of some of her other ideas: There will be a “Universal Restoration to fallen Angels and Spirits.” This “Jubilee [will] save All.” It will be a “United Love-Harmony from the Highest to the Lowest degree,” meaning a “union” of those who are “departed [from] this Body” but who will eventually be allowed to “put on Bodies of Immortality.” Those in the “Highest degree” are “ancient Worthies [who] most willingly meet and confer with us” so that we may be made able “to come up to them in unity” and receive a “full Body of Light.” I hate to say it, but it gets worse.

  • @Star-dj1kw
    @Star-dj1kw 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +13

    Hold on?? The teaching that Jesus wasn’t a Jew is the easiest thing to refute; Jesus’ genealogies are listed in Matthew and Luke for goodness sakes 😳😳

    • @lesliewells-ig5dl
      @lesliewells-ig5dl 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      Exactly!!!! They don't care what the Bible says. They use it for what they want to use it for.

    • @stevemontgomeryunheardofgu2759
      @stevemontgomeryunheardofgu2759 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      No kidding. Unfortunately, the plain and simple reading of the Word doesn't always apply with these folks.

    • @timbrown6629
      @timbrown6629 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      They teach that Jesus was a Judean, or of the Tribe of Judah. They do not believe the Jews are the Tribe of Judah, they believe they are either Edomites, or Kenites (Sons of Cain/Serpent's Seedline/Tares.)
      I've never heard of Jane Lead. I was chasing video threads on Gnosticism, and this video came up.

  • @Star-dj1kw
    @Star-dj1kw 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    ✅ interesting

  • @baileyunivers6105
    @baileyunivers6105 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Seventh Day Adventist also uses the term “present truth” to describe and defend their new revelations and prophecies from Ellen G White.

  • @Schottinthedark
    @Schottinthedark 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    You are sending me into more research. My father received David ebaughs newsletter the monarch. And now I will need to pull on that thread. I think my father knew him.

    • @stevemontgomeryunheardofgu2759
      @stevemontgomeryunheardofgu2759 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Very interesting. Have you read what I say about Ebaugh's teachings in my The Converging Apostasy?

    • @Schottinthedark
      @Schottinthedark 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I am going to now. I about fell of my chair when his name came up. The Monarch was a regular item in my house growing up. When I looked in the website, I recognized it right away. My partners in research(friends with similar interests) are joining me. So thank you for sharing.@@stevemontgomeryunheardofgu2759

  • @helenr4300
    @helenr4300 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    curious about the different reception of 'Our land is key' message from applied to Britain (and given the former empire mindset) to rooting and growing more strongly in US?
    Never heard of AngloSaxonism??

  • @ivanasimic2072
    @ivanasimic2072 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    I would love to hear more about latter rain movement. If I understand it corectly, they are claiming it was second pentecost, and NAR is now claiming the 3th one, which cannot be true. Thanks for video and great work you gents are doing. And btw. Where is Charles? Send him greetings from Croatia, one of the best podcast about history of these cults.

  • @allanbartlett8356
    @allanbartlett8356 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Is this program available in DVD or book form from 2st to present.

  • @lesliewells-ig5dl
    @lesliewells-ig5dl 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    A crystal ball is a good analogy. They claim to be mystics, just like fortune tellers.

  • @annielyst
    @annielyst 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Converging Apostasy is no longer available on Amazon. Does Stephen have any copies left? You both need to be interviewed by people who can get this message out to more people. I feel I've been duped for years. I do believe there are genuine gifts but obviously people have lied and manipulated about having them. I keep referring people to your podcasts.

    • @LeavingtheMessage
      @LeavingtheMessage  10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      www.amazon.com/dp/B0CP18CRYG

    • @annielyst
      @annielyst 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@LeavingtheMessage Thank you! That kindle link had a paperbook option too - got it!!

    • @stevemontgomeryunheardofgu2759
      @stevemontgomeryunheardofgu2759 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Thanks. Hang tight, never let go, keep moving forward!

  • @lesliewells-ig5dl
    @lesliewells-ig5dl 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Anyone who thinks it's their job to enforce God's will in another person's life--even to kill them---is a really scary person, An extremist in the worst sense of the word.

  • @ExposeDarkness511
    @ExposeDarkness511 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    It is not just the white supremacy but Jewish supremacy teaches the same things ("Tikkun Olam") which also comes from the same source because it all traces back to the Kabbalah and ancient Babilonian mysticism. Different groups use different terms for the same concepts.