I've recently been studying the game in its entirety and it's really interesting. I more so wanted to fully understand how counters ACTUALLY work in overwatch. I use my own lingo but I'm convinced that I have cracked the code completely for how counters actually work in the game and especially applied to hybrid and escort maps. The concepts of poke, brawl and dive are definitely true concepts however they are missing information and it doesn't categorise every hero in the game and how you get maximum value out of these heroes. So instead of viewing the game in the sense of "poke, brawl and dive" I believe it would be better if you shifted the way you view the heroes to this: 4 team styles, 2 offensive and 2 defensive which counter one another in a cycle. I label them as Offensive dive, offensive rush, defensive hitscan and defensive projectile. Firstly to identify whether a hero is offensive or defensive you look at their mobility abilities. If they have a mobility ability designed to move around a corner or from a corner to another corner QUICKLY they are an offensive hero. If they have no mobility or only vertical (widowmaker grapple) or can't shoot while moving (soldier 76 sprint) they are a defensive hero. Offensive = take map space away from enemy team. Defensive = Deny map space from enemy team. This is a general golden rule for counters but there will be exceptions which I'll go over later. So here's how counter team comps ACTUALLY work. defensive hitscan > offensive dive > defensive projectile > offensive rush > defensive hitscan. Hitscan heroes do not miss headshots on dive heroes at different elevations. Projectile heroes do miss headshots against dive heroes at different elevations. However projectile heroes do NOT miss headshots against offensive rush heroes who take horizontal paths as there is no change in the elevation of their movement and more often than not there are tunnel chokes where they cannot dodge the projectiles. Defensive projectile heroes do more damage per second than defensive hitscan heroes but the condition is only met when they hit their projectile shots. All the rush tanks have more sustainability and do more damage then their dive counterparts. All the projectile tanks have more sustainability and do more damage than their hitscan counterparts. This is to account for the disadvantage the rush tanks have with no vertical mobility and the projectile tanks have with no effective range. So in essence if a rush team comp manages to climb a stair case and bypass a defensive projectile team comp a defensive hitscan team comp cannot defend itself with their low damage per second and low health/armour pool. Conversely if an offensive dive comp manages to bypass a defensive hitscan comp they can collapse upon a defensive projectile comp with their lower dps rate because the defensive projectile comp cannot damage them back. What they want players to do in overwatch is on attack claim horizontal and vertical corners of cover as a team using rush and dive heroes and on defense deny horizontal and vertical corners of cover as a team using projectile and hitscan heroes.
This is an amazing video If you really want to climb the ranks in overwatch 2, the amount of effort and time put into this is mind-boggling. (Outstanding work)
she primarily looks to get on top of the enemy team's backline with the speed of her spear spin but more obviously, she doesn't have a shield unlike rein, ramattra, and sigma. Not having a shield means it's harder for her AND her team to close distance and rotate through open space and to actually hold space too
From 0:30 to 0:46 I’m truly shocked at the project your doing. Your one of a kind overwatch content creator.
On behalf of all the disorganized plat and under players; thank you.
nah fuck this dumb nerd shit I'll keep hard feeding and stay in gold
your the only guy who post full coaching sessions you help a lot of people with this game while keeping it free don’t forget where u came from
Can't wait to learn how to S.E.X while playing better comps for my team c:
Dawg☠️☠️☠️
@@CashGreatness what? He coined the term😂
I've recently been studying the game in its entirety and it's really interesting. I more so wanted to fully understand how counters ACTUALLY work in overwatch. I use my own lingo but I'm convinced that I have cracked the code completely for how counters actually work in the game and especially applied to hybrid and escort maps. The concepts of poke, brawl and dive are definitely true concepts however they are missing information and it doesn't categorise every hero in the game and how you get maximum value out of these heroes. So instead of viewing the game in the sense of "poke, brawl and dive" I believe it would be better if you shifted the way you view the heroes to this: 4 team styles, 2 offensive and 2 defensive which counter one another in a cycle. I label them as Offensive dive, offensive rush, defensive hitscan and defensive projectile. Firstly to identify whether a hero is offensive or defensive you look at their mobility abilities. If they have a mobility ability designed to move around a corner or from a corner to another corner QUICKLY they are an offensive hero. If they have no mobility or only vertical (widowmaker grapple) or can't shoot while moving (soldier 76 sprint) they are a defensive hero. Offensive = take map space away from enemy team. Defensive = Deny map space from enemy team. This is a general golden rule for counters but there will be exceptions which I'll go over later. So here's how counter team comps ACTUALLY work. defensive hitscan > offensive dive > defensive projectile > offensive rush > defensive hitscan. Hitscan heroes do not miss headshots on dive heroes at different elevations. Projectile heroes do miss headshots against dive heroes at different elevations. However projectile heroes do NOT miss headshots against offensive rush heroes who take horizontal paths as there is no change in the elevation of their movement and more often than not there are tunnel chokes where they cannot dodge the projectiles. Defensive projectile heroes do more damage per second than defensive hitscan heroes but the condition is only met when they hit their projectile shots. All the rush tanks have more sustainability and do more damage then their dive counterparts. All the projectile tanks have more sustainability and do more damage than their hitscan counterparts. This is to account for the disadvantage the rush tanks have with no vertical mobility and the projectile tanks have with no effective range. So in essence if a rush team comp manages to climb a stair case and bypass a defensive projectile team comp a defensive hitscan team comp cannot defend itself with their low damage per second and low health/armour pool. Conversely if an offensive dive comp manages to bypass a defensive hitscan comp they can collapse upon a defensive projectile comp with their lower dps rate because the defensive projectile comp cannot damage them back. What they want players to do in overwatch is on attack claim horizontal and vertical corners of cover as a team using rush and dive heroes and on defense deny horizontal and vertical corners of cover as a team using projectile and hitscan heroes.
So Widowmaker counters dive and Ball is a defensive hero because he is hitscan and can‘t shoot while rolling?
This is an amazing video If you really want to climb the ranks in overwatch 2, the amount of effort and time put into this is mind-boggling. (Outstanding work)
Where would mauga fit into this?
It is time to update the list with Jono included as she changed the OW eSport scene
great stuff!
My fat ass read the title as Poke Bowl...😓
Capitology sounds like a high school Spilo
Ball is good now
might be the goat?!
doomfist?
Whats macro and micro?
Why is Orisa brawl dive over brawl?
she primarily looks to get on top of the enemy team's backline with the speed of her spear spin but more obviously, she doesn't have a shield unlike rein, ramattra, and sigma. Not having a shield means it's harder for her AND her team to close distance and rotate through open space and to actually hold space too
Thank you, Kajor, for your high IQ content - sometimes I feel stupid watching your vids, lol, but still useful at my level. Stay safe.
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