MetamorphicWonders They do that because it costs too much to scrap them. They were considering sinking a ship here in the great lakes with a concerete hull. It was badly designed and the hull was always needing repairs. The concrete got so soft,it was dermed unsafe so they considered using her as a reserve. Apparently that got nixed,so they had to cut it up. The upper hull was reused on another ship, same design, better hull.
Ah', that's interesting, because as the camera panned across the outer hull I found myself thinking that this wasn't fibreglass, but concrete! I always thought that was an odd material choice for a hull, but minds greater than mine decided otherwise.
During the Depression, many boats were sunk and abandoned. People out of work couldn't afford to dock a boat in a marina, let alone use it. A late friend and charter boat captain showed me several boats off Miami taken out and sunk. This looks like it was stripped before being sunk.
I met a fellow working in Halifax, N.S. probably 1972-75, who lost a concrete boat somewhere in the islands down South... I wonder if that was his boat.
+Sennmut one hatch would open releasing the pressure, not all the hatches, once one blows the pressure escapes, and the boat sinks easily, it was scuttled
you are right, the presure of the ship filling with water blows the hatch cover right off. Look at almost any sunken ship and it will have no hatch covers
When any divers come upon a ship or large vessel and they have these fishing nets still strung about the decks or floating up off the deck towards the surface take the time to cut them off the vessel and bring to surface to be destroyed. This keeps Dolphins and sea turtles from getting entangled in those nets and dying a slow death. Also whales get caught up in them and will kill them as well. Years ago I and friends use to scuba dive off the coasts and off the Keys of Florida. We always made time to cut all the nets away from the shrimp and fishing boats sunk around Florida..thanks
Wayne Werff I totally agree. It should be incorperated into dive training that if it is safe and practical to do so.. always cut away and send up these nets for disposal. I have spent time cutting out large fish caught in these nets.
@@MetamorphicWonders love your videos so much hope you keep making new ones just one question did you find this wreck yourself or had it already been found?
at about 3:14 until 3:21 you can clearly see a diver at the stern. I am sure he got the name of the wreck. then at 3:22 until 3:25 you can see a newer black buoy line going straight up to the surface. I highly doubt this is unknown or unnamed. good video all the same but someone knows the name of this wreck since they spent some time at the stern during this video.
The Black buoy line went up about 6 or 7 meters then stopped It consisted of old rope with a crushed buoy on the end, in mid water. The other chap was with me, he was looking for a name but nothing could be seen..... or if he did he didnt tell me....!! I do know that a few weeks later a friend returned to this wreck and cut off all the nets and removed them from the ocean for correct disposal.
It was a good dive, It was made of concrete, i am sure we discussed the name, but it was not readable. I also went inside but it was full of silt, lots of bunk beds, i remember that, We found a large hatch about 10 meters off the wreck on the seabed. I hate nets, I have had dealings with nets in the UK in pitch black water and also fishing line... I got my leg caught in line once and if I had not had a knife I would have been in trouble.....
Just wondering if you did any research to find the story behind it. I noticed the life raft cradle was empty, and I didn't see any signs of a tender, of course all that could have been removed by a trawling fishing boat. It could have been scuttled because she was a Hazzard to navigation. I would like to know the story of it.
looks like it was stripped of all gear ie no winches on deck no jamb cleats only fixed cleats ,from my guess its ferro cement going by the rust spots on cabin roof my guess also is that this was damaged found to be beyond repair and illegally dumped good for divers though !
I remember passing by this family that were building a concrete live-in yacht in their spare time over the span of maybe 5 years... I didn't realize what a good material it was for the purpose at the time and just thought it would sink ;-)
The wreck is not deeper than 20 meters max. You were descending in 40 seconds. That would be 1m/s. You were using air only. You wouldn't risk taking your camera down to 40m in a housing (Canon G9, WP-DC21) waterproof exactly to that. Am I right?
+Erik Mäki I have checked my log book, and yes you are spot on sir!! 19 meters deep, and yes on air... I have, however, taken the camera to its limit in the past, my other video of the Zenobia .. I have video on the sea bed, i think from memory its about 45 meters deep... i could be wrong. Your observation was spot on for this dive........... I owe you a beer.
+MetamorphicWonders Yeah no way would anyone market a housing that couldn't go a lot deeper than they claim, my GoPro 60m housing worked perfectly at 62m on the Coolidge (on AIR btw, no narcosis cos we built up to it over a few days) and spent a heap of time just under it - then flooded at 14m a few weeks later! So wiping hairs etc off the gasket is the most important thing! Probably a godsend cos 360 video is taking off and it's gonna revolutionise our dive videos - imagine getting back to the surface and watching your video again and being able to look in ANY direction inside a wreck, even behind you.... the just-announced Nikon KeyMission 360 would be perfect except it only does 30m (no housing required but maybe they'll add a deep one?) but I reckon we'll get 45m out of them ;) Thanks for the videos!
+Geoff Infield Geof, I would like to ugrade to a go pro, could you recommend a model for me to look at? I think they have silver or black.. which do you use, my canon G9 is a great little camera, but very bulky, I like the idea of the go pro because of its size. My G9 is a bit outdated now... All my underwater films on utube are with the G9...
+Kathryn Davidson If a fishing boat is dragging a net, and it gets caught on something, it can sink/capsize the boat. Its better to just just the net than risk sinking your boat. There have been plenty of ships that sunk due to nets getting stuck on rocks, or even submarines. No proper captain is gonna risk the ship, his life and the lives of his crew to save a net. I do feel that there should be a system to report lost nets and have them recovered/removed if possible to prevent animals from getting stuck in it.
+esenel92 Good point, I usually go down again and cut these nets off these wrecks, I have seen what they can do even after being abandoned. On this wreck I did not get time to return and remove the nets, but I am sure i remember someone told me it had been cleared after I dived it. Also I have seen these nets in all states .. eg just lost and still killing fish, to being full of dead fish, which rot and eventually the net becomes a mass of weed and debris which the fish can see and then they stop getting caught in them. The dead fish become food for the live fish and the net gets absorbed in sea life and becomes one great big structure. These are also a very big risk to divers, I have been caught in nets in Pitch Black Darkness.. if you panic you are finished. You have to inflate so you rise up, and then when the net gets tight , you cut yourself free with your knife.
+MetamorphicWonders Yeah, nets a a curse to anything in the ocean, and imho governments should work out ways to keep track of nets, and set up something to try to remove as many of them as possible.
That does not look like either a fiberglass or metal hull. I'd guess it's an early ferrocement hull. Once breached by a minor grounding, they're a beetch to repair effectively.
Kenny Sherrill When we marked a wreck with a bouy , when we returned a few days later the bouy is either stolen or gets detached from the line by the power of the ocean currents... and more lost rope etc is lost to the sea. Most wrecks are on a chart and marked. But there are hundreds of underwater obstructions not on charts. Also the tides can be 5 meters in depth different from time to time. So its difficuilt to mark them. I speak here for the deep dark UK waters i used to dive in. We used to find many wrecks not on any charts. Plus if we marked the wrecks the uncharted postitions would be known to divers who dont play by the rules, and ruined. We used to clear as much net as posible.. but sometimes in pitch blackness they can be deadly to divers as well.
Why didn't he get the bow numbers and report the ship down. It could have been jacked at sea and the people murdered. Then you would have a story to tell. Most likely this isn't a lost yacht. They are always reported for the insurance money.
+gehlen52 Yes, you are correct, fishing nets and line are DEADLY to divers, there is a drill if you get caught up in them, inflate your jacket, so you make the net go tight and cut yourself out with a good knife. All works well as long as the snag is reachable by your own arms. If its around your back your buddy must cut you free. I have spent many a dive cutting up and recovering these horrible nets , bringing them back to the surface for safe disposal, to save countless marine creatures being killed after the nets are abandoned. Most wrecks are found by fishermen whom loose nets, if you ask a fisherman he will tell you where all the undived wrecks are!!!
+MetamorphicWonders Biodegradable nets would be a solution but it might well take an Einstein to come up with a practical time, element, and cost conscious formula for construction of such nets.
+gehlen52 Ive been caught up in nets in the pitch blackness with no visibility in the past, on the dive you have seen they were easily spotted, imagine swimming into those in the dark!!! The main rule is dont panic.
i now know why it's unknown..... u didn't go look for the name. but it was nice to look at. oh a little advice. don't stay too close to the nets. for any reason.
Definitely not military. I can tell from looking at it.... Wonder if there's a name to be found on the hull, or if there's some other identifying feature to be found...
Funny as it doesn't look like a Luxury Yacht at all. And later you say it's made of concrete. What Luxury Yachts are made of concrete? Just looks like someone figured out it was a piece of crape and decided it would be better used as an artificial reef.
is this like a haunted attraction underwater honestly I need to know because if it isn't the something definitely not right on that boat I saw figures I also saw something at 3:10 I don't know if you noticed something swim away like right in front of you and it was not a fish I could tell you that I took screenshots of it looks like the human bones in the Nets
When you get to the bottom of the dark void of a hold, and look up.. it suddenly isnt a black void anymore. The area your in has a bit of visability. Looking in .. its a black void, but looking out its not so black..
For qualified scuba divers watching this film a lot can be picked up from the beeps of my dive computer. They could find the audible beeps which occur helpfull as a training aid. It will show if I a dive turns into a decompression dive and my no stop time has ended or if i ascend to fast or breech my ceiling... by the audible beeps. If i had no sound then all this information will be lost and would not be heard. Thats why there is sound on my underwater videos.
"In a bar I heard of a shipwreck...." Possibly one of the greatest story openers ever.
Right behind "Two dogs walked into a bar..."lol
I can add that the boats hull is made of concrete, The Boat caught fire and was towed out of the harbour and scuttled.
Are they're paranormal ghosts
MetamorphicWonders They do that because it costs too much to scrap them. They were considering sinking a ship here in the great lakes with a concerete hull. It was badly designed and the hull was always needing repairs. The concrete got so soft,it was dermed unsafe so they considered using her as a reserve. Apparently that got nixed,so they had to cut it up. The upper hull was reused on another ship, same design, better hull.
@@scottfirman: This is the result when owners have no money for his hobby when repairs are needed ... so sad story.
Ah', that's interesting, because as the camera panned across the outer hull I found myself thinking that this wasn't fibreglass, but concrete!
I always thought that was an odd material choice for a hull, but minds greater than mine decided otherwise.
How long has it been underwater?.
Fishing nets. The gift that keeps on killing.
Yep, hate em.
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Man, that visibility is great. If you dive a wreck in the Great Lakes at 40m you'd see it about a meter away.
During the Depression, many boats were sunk and abandoned. People out of work couldn't afford to dock a boat in a marina, let alone use it. A late friend and charter boat captain showed me several boats off Miami taken out and sunk. This looks like it was stripped before being sunk.
that's pretty cool, awesome footage!
It's so peaceful down there I have been scuba diving in the Great Barrier Reef and have seen sharks there and dicing is amazing
it looks fairly modern possibly late 60s early 70s twin mast yacht, quite a nice boat at one time.
I once knew a skipper from Nantucket . He was drunk and tripped on a bucket . Rrrrrrrrrrr
I met a fellow working in Halifax, N.S. probably 1972-75, who lost a concrete boat somewhere in the islands down South... I wonder if that was his boat.
Where is this located? :)
all the hatches are open. looks like it was scuttled!
of course !!!!
+Elomento Supreme The water filling the ship could have blown the hatches open by pressure. What condition are the latches in?
+Sennmut one hatch would open releasing the pressure, not all the hatches, once one blows the pressure escapes, and the boat sinks easily, it was scuttled
you are right, the presure of the ship filling with water blows the hatch cover right off. Look at almost any sunken ship and it will have no hatch covers
When any divers come upon a ship or large vessel and they have these fishing nets still strung about the decks or floating up off the deck towards the surface take the time to cut them off the vessel and bring to surface to be destroyed.
This keeps Dolphins and sea turtles from getting entangled in those nets and dying a slow death. Also whales get caught up in them and will kill them as well. Years ago I and friends use to scuba dive off the coasts and off the Keys of Florida. We always made time to cut all the nets away from the shrimp and fishing boats sunk around Florida..thanks
Wayne Werff I totally agree. It should be incorperated into dive training that if it is safe and practical to do so.. always cut away and send up these nets for disposal. I have spent time cutting out large fish caught in these nets.
@@MetamorphicWonders love your videos so much hope you keep making new ones just one question did you find this wreck yourself or had it already been found?
You can find some awesome fishing spots from shrimpers snags/logbooks.
at about 3:14 until 3:21 you can clearly see a diver at the stern. I am sure he got the name of the wreck. then at 3:22 until 3:25 you can see a newer black buoy line going straight up to the surface. I highly doubt this is unknown or unnamed. good video all the same but someone knows the name of this wreck since they spent some time at the stern during this video.
The Black buoy line went up about 6 or 7 meters then stopped It consisted of old rope with a crushed buoy on the end, in mid water. The other chap was with me, he was looking for a name but nothing could be seen..... or if he did he didnt tell me....!! I do know that a few weeks later a friend returned to this wreck and cut off all the nets and removed them from the ocean for correct disposal.
good to hear nets were taken care of. looked like a neat dive though.
It was a good dive, It was made of concrete, i am sure we discussed the name, but it was not readable. I also went inside but it was full of silt, lots of bunk beds, i remember that, We found a large hatch about 10 meters off the wreck on the seabed. I hate nets, I have had dealings with nets in the UK in pitch black water and also fishing line... I got my leg caught in line once and if I had not had a knife I would have been in trouble.....
Just wondering if you did any research to find the story behind it. I noticed the life raft cradle was empty, and I didn't see any signs of a tender, of course all that could have been removed by a trawling fishing boat. It could have been scuttled because she was a Hazzard to navigation. I would like to know the story of it.
looks like it was stripped of all gear ie no winches on deck no jamb cleats only fixed cleats ,from my guess its ferro cement going by the rust spots on cabin roof my guess also is that this was damaged found to be beyond repair and illegally dumped good for divers though !
+trinescape yes I can confirm... it is cement .....
I remember passing by this family that were building a concrete live-in yacht in their spare time over the span of maybe 5 years... I didn't realize what a good material it was for the purpose at the time and just thought it would sink ;-)
Found some cannons of the beach in 1986. Went back 5 years later, and could not find them. East coast Florida. 20 feet deep.
They are probably still there but under six foot of sand!
The wreck is not deeper than 20 meters max.
You were descending in 40 seconds. That would be 1m/s.
You were using air only.
You wouldn't risk taking your camera down to 40m in a housing (Canon G9, WP-DC21) waterproof exactly to that.
Am I right?
+Erik Mäki I have checked my log book, and yes you are spot on sir!! 19 meters deep, and yes on air... I have, however, taken the camera to its limit in the past, my other video of the Zenobia .. I have video on the sea bed, i think from memory its about 45 meters deep... i could be wrong. Your observation was spot on for this dive........... I owe you a beer.
+MetamorphicWonders Yeah no way would anyone market a housing that couldn't go a lot deeper than they claim, my GoPro 60m housing worked perfectly at 62m on the Coolidge (on AIR btw, no narcosis cos we built up to it over a few days) and spent a heap of time just under it - then flooded at 14m a few weeks later! So wiping hairs etc off the gasket is the most important thing! Probably a godsend cos 360 video is taking off and it's gonna revolutionise our dive videos - imagine getting back to the surface and watching your video again and being able to look in ANY direction inside a wreck, even behind you.... the just-announced Nikon KeyMission 360 would be perfect except it only does 30m (no housing required but maybe they'll add a deep one?) but I reckon we'll get 45m out of them ;) Thanks for the videos!
+Geoff Infield Geof, I would like to ugrade to a go pro, could you recommend a model for me to look at? I think they have silver or black.. which do you use, my canon G9 is a great little camera, but very bulky, I like the idea of the go pro because of its size. My G9 is a bit outdated now... All my underwater films on utube are with the G9...
Instantly reading his text I noticed he didn't tell us the name of the wreck which would give all his bogus story away.
Look like a lot of overfishing using primitive nets too. All of the fishes are small.
Amazing footage! Roughly where was this? I'm not asking specific location, just curious what body of water?
HooseBinPharteen Many thanks for your interest, its in the Mediterranean Sea.
It's in Greek waters.
"Call me Ishmael. In a bar I heard of a shipwreck off Nantucket . . . "
Ferro boat with structural damage to bow = expensive fix, better to strip and scuttle. mystery solved
Shipwrecks are so scary!
Awesome footage! I swear the engine sounds like it's trying to crank up thow
Even though
Wreck location???
do you have a 3 D animation or a total overview picture of the ship?
+Nils Voelkel sorry, No I havent....
+MetamorphicWonders you need a special 3 D software or a 3 D scanner to get the exact shape of the ship to identify it properly
Fishing boat captain: "SON OF A- What the hell is the net stuck on now? Oh hell, just cut the line!" ^_^
+Kathryn Davidson If a fishing boat is dragging a net, and it gets caught on something, it can sink/capsize the boat. Its better to just just the net than risk sinking your boat. There have been plenty of ships that sunk due to nets getting stuck on rocks, or even submarines.
No proper captain is gonna risk the ship, his life and the lives of his crew to save a net.
I do feel that there should be a system to report lost nets and have them recovered/removed if possible to prevent animals from getting stuck in it.
+esenel92 Good point, I usually go down again and cut these nets off these wrecks, I have seen what they can do even after being abandoned. On this wreck I did not get time to return and remove the nets, but I am sure i remember someone told me it had been cleared after I dived it. Also I have seen these nets in all states .. eg just lost and still killing fish, to being full of dead fish, which rot and eventually the net becomes a mass of weed and debris which the fish can see and then they stop getting caught in them. The dead fish become food for the live fish and the net gets absorbed in sea life and becomes one great big structure. These are also a very big risk to divers, I have been caught in nets in Pitch Black Darkness.. if you panic you are finished. You have to inflate so you rise up, and then when the net gets tight , you cut yourself free with your knife.
+MetamorphicWonders Yeah, nets a a curse to anything in the ocean, and imho governments should work out ways to keep track of nets, and set up something to try to remove as many of them as possible.
Actually those are shrimp nets and are not a hazard to anything unless they're attached to a shrimp boat that is underway.
Was there a name on the boat? I'd be interested to know where this is!
Just as soon as you get where the name is, you stopped and turned around. I mean just one more foot and you would have seen it!
Its that one more foot one more min this is soo cool ....that kills you
Don't you hate ghost nets? Nice video, great to see the ocean take over a hull.
How did you find it?
if the hulls intack then bring it to the surface with truck intertubes
That does not look like either a fiberglass or metal hull. I'd guess it's an early ferrocement hull. Once breached by a minor grounding, they're a beetch to repair effectively.
Bru Star yes. it was a concrete hull
Nets need to be removed, wreck needs to be marked to avoid other fishing boats getting their nets tangled. 👍👍👍👍👍🇺🇸
Kenny Sherrill When we marked a wreck with a bouy , when we returned a few days later the bouy is either stolen or gets detached from the line by the power of the ocean currents... and more lost rope etc is lost to the sea. Most wrecks are on a chart and marked. But there are hundreds of underwater obstructions not on charts. Also the tides can be 5 meters in depth different from time to time. So its difficuilt to mark them. I speak here for the deep dark UK waters i used to dive in. We used to find many wrecks not on any charts. Plus if we marked the wrecks the uncharted postitions would be known to divers who dont play by the rules, and ruined. We used to clear as much net as posible.. but sometimes in pitch blackness they can be deadly to divers as well.
Woooww the vision is so clear. What is the camera used?
Its a canon G9, in the canon waterproof housing. Quite a large set up but clear picture. I want to try a Go Pro at some point.
Where is that location??
Whoa! That's really cool! :D
Why didn't he get the bow numbers and report the ship down. It could have been jacked at sea and the people murdered.
Then you would have a story to tell. Most likely this isn't a lost yacht. They are always reported for the insurance money.
Did fishing boats snag on the wreck and lose their nets?
+gehlen52 Yes, you are correct, fishing nets and line are DEADLY to divers, there is a drill if you get caught up in them, inflate your jacket, so you make the net go tight and cut yourself out with a good knife. All works well as long as the snag is reachable by your own arms. If its around your back your buddy must cut you free. I have spent many a dive cutting up and recovering these horrible nets , bringing them back to the surface for safe disposal, to save countless marine creatures being killed after the nets are abandoned. Most wrecks are found by fishermen whom loose nets, if you ask a fisherman he will tell you where all the undived wrecks are!!!
+MetamorphicWonders Biodegradable nets would be a solution but it might well take an Einstein to come up with a practical time, element, and cost conscious formula for construction of such nets.
+gehlen52 Ive been caught up in nets in the pitch blackness with no visibility in the past, on the dive you have seen they were easily spotted, imagine swimming into those in the dark!!! The main rule is dont panic.
crystal clear footage
Did you manage to get the name of the boat?
Unfortunately not!!
I am sure I would have looked at the stern, but could not get a name.
Guys thars the USS Norris, Chuck personal sailboat. He always parks it there. DO NOT MESS. WITH it or Chuck Norris will rearrange your face
lifecraft canister is missing, and if its a luxury yacht there would be a name on the stern of the ship
if your out of time , your out of time.. no time to look.
ship wrecks make great artificial reefs.
that ship looks like a german ship
i now know why it's unknown..... u didn't go look for the name. but it was nice to look at. oh a little advice. don't stay too close to the nets. for any reason.
I have a question, did these divers just jump into the water and find this reck? because that would be creepy
No they probably had scanners on their boat and they saw it and then dived
AW Roche Wreck*
it's the SS Minnow!!
Not a yacht. Nothing viewed these lateral hatches on a yacht. Maybe military ?
This guy was a bartender...I think his name was Hal...that's all I know. Thanks for the video.
To me it looks like it belongs to the military possibly.
Cinexes The Minecrafter Or maybe even a crab boat.
+Cinexes The Minecrafter OR A MILITARY CRAB BOAT XD
Shaboolie Sure XD
Definitely not military. I can tell from looking at it.... Wonder if there's a name to be found on the hull, or if there's some other identifying feature to be found...
Oh my GOD...That's my old boat!!!!! If you went under the dock on portside you would have found my stash of coke and playboys!!!
They did, the playboys had all drowned and the coke had all been drunk by the fish, only a few pepsi's left...
I'll bet thats where Jimmy Hoffa is.
Looks like it's been divded already
Funny as it doesn't look like a Luxury Yacht at all. And later you say it's made of concrete. What Luxury Yachts are made of concrete? Just looks like someone figured out it was a piece of crape and decided it would be better used as an artificial reef.
where about is it
is this like a haunted attraction underwater honestly I need to know because if it isn't the something definitely not right on that boat I saw figures I also saw something at 3:10 I don't know if you noticed something swim away like right in front of you and it was not a fish I could tell you that I took screenshots of it looks like the human bones in the Nets
Didn’t look like a 40 meter dive.......
For me that ship looks a lot like titanic though.
Mephiles The Dark It's a ship wreck after all It's just the way it sunk that changed the look of it
Kfas Playz not even close to the Titanic
A sad way for someone's dream to end.
And others dreams to start .....
usually the name is on the stern
When your out of time, you gotta go !!
Is that Teds car?
This yacht is looks like my fathre 's yacht we never find it or my father
I'm so sorry maybe that's your dad's boat
I would freak the fuck out
Egh! I hate big open hatches going into blackness.. scary as fuck! I don't know how you guys can swim around these things.
When you get to the bottom of the dark void of a hold, and look up.. it suddenly isnt a black void anymore. The area your in has a bit of visability. Looking in .. its a black void, but looking out its not so black..
Do it again
Mmmm strange
What is the purpose of having sound while your diving and can't talk?
For qualified scuba divers watching this film a lot can be picked up from the beeps of my dive computer. They could find the audible beeps which occur helpfull as a training aid. It will show if I a dive turns into a decompression dive and my no stop time has ended or if i ascend to fast or breech my ceiling... by the audible beeps. If i had no sound then all this information will be lost and would not be heard. Thats why there is sound on my underwater videos.
Lol
I hope you registered for salvage rights