An Endless Cycle: Taxing Blank Cassettes and Killing Music
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In today’s era of streaming and TH-cam where we as consumers have the power to pick and choose the songs we listen to and curate our own playlists, the idea of a homemade mixtape is either quaint or completely alien depending on how old you are. Go back just a few decades in the UK though and you’d find heavy-handed warnings in almost every cassette tape sleeve telling you, quite matter of factly, that “Home Taping Is Killing Music” with the qualifier, “And it’s illegal”.
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Love the logo in the bottom right at 9:12 saying "Home cooking is killing the restaurant industry". LOL
Great catch!
This will now be my logic for ordering takeout instead of cooking. No, mom, I'm not lazy, I just support the restaurant industry. After all, small business is the backbone of our economy...
Jamie Martin i saw that too lol
The big bold warning reminds me of the Prohibition-era "definitely not wine-making kits" that were a bunch of grapes with very specific instructions describing what you need to NOT do to make sure that you don't accidentally make illegal wine.
Actually, the music industry is killing music.
Preach !!!!!!!!
Thirded.
Myiphone5 Sure it does - it means the music industry is and has been, as the name implies, turning what at it's heart is an art of expression through sound into a profit-driven endeavour of manufacturing what their market research shows will sell the most.
This is indeed something that can and does compromise expression in favour of marketability; the highest paid artists produce (often not personally) the least creatively driven music, because creativity and individual expression are, by their nature, generally not marketable to a wide audience.
Just pirate all your music and support your favorite artists directly or through merchandise.
Record labels were more busy lobbying law makers and figuring out how to enforce copyright violations than actually offering a service where you can legally buy music more conveniently than pirating it.
Ryleigh S incrediblely well said! I wish I could like your comment twice hahaha so true unfortunately
In Australia at the start of movies there used to be this ad that said "you wouldn't steal a car, pirate movies is stealing" dad's response always was no I wouldn't steal a car but if I could copy a Mercedes I'm not sure I'd say no
Callie Thompson Americans have something similar,where it just says PIRACY IS ILLEGAL, it can get you fined up to 500$ USD (5,000$) USD.
Hahahaha I remember that! You wouldn't steal a car, you wouldn't steal a handbag, you wouldn't steal a movie from the shop, downloading movies is stealing blah blah blah.
Callie Thompson the uk had that as well all it did was inform me that it was possible to do the thing they where trying to discourage
God that ad before the movie was actually rather annoying to a LOT of movie goers....
Worse, it actively encouraged pirating as you would only get those annoying unskippable nag sessions on legitimately bought media.
Home sewing is killing fashion. Home cooking is killing the restaurant industry. etc.
Home fucking is killing the prostitution industry.
Ryan Patterson trolling from home is killing bullying at school
You may enjoy reading the introduction to "Cottage Economy", by William Cobbett, 1821.
Fucking at home is wrecking the brothel industry
9:12
As a writer, I had about half a moment of being annoyed by the sales of my USED books. I'm _ashamed_ to say that I was upset that I wasn't getting money from ongoing sales of books I'd written.
The fact that I felt that way... gave me pause. I sat down and thought about it for a while, went to my Amazon page and lowered the price on ALL my books to the lowest possible setting (the point where Amazon won't let me make them cheaper). Kindle AND Amazon paperback. They've always been free through libraries and I've enrolled them all in the "Matchbook" program where, if you buy the paperback, you get the e-book free! Now you can read the Kindle version and give away/loan the paperback!
I had to remind myself that I write books because I want people to read them! Once I let go of my greed, I shook my head with embarrassment and then felt SO MUCH BETTER!
David Buschhorn I order your first book. You have really good reviews. I'm always looking for new authors to read. Looking forward to reading your work.
Thank you so much!!! They're the best thing I've ever done and they get better as they go.
L Ron Hubbard is that you?
LOL! Right? It was like I had to remind myself that I didn't start writing to make myself rich. I started the series because I felt like I needed to get this story out of my head and onto the page.
Would I LOVE to be able to quit my job and write full time? Yes.
maybe you could make 2 print versions of it, one for the cheapest price you can set, and one with a more intricate hard cover design and page footers fitting the theme of your story for the price some of your readers were originally willing to pay
In the US, it is 100% legal to copy and or back up a work on tape, cd, vinyl, etc; for the purpose or having a back up or archive copy,
Sometimes just have this in the reverse order.
I remember being a kid and being able to spend just a few dollars on a blank tape to record my fav songs off the radio. When I was old enough and actually had enough money to go and buy the albums myself, I did. If anything it got me into liking having access to whatever music I wanted, wherever I wanted, so that when I got older I loved going and buying the actual albums for myself. Nothing beats being able to have your own copy!
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Same thing here on youtube having a track WITH VIDEO of the artist or othersuch images and maybe the "official" thing hasn't been issued so it cannot be purchased anyway or is "not available in your country".
HA! On one of the graphics he showed, in small print, was “Home cooking is killing the restaurant industry.” LOL!! Hilarious!!
"Mass transit is killing the automotive industry." -- Brought to you by General Motors.
Until I read the caption for a second I thought, 'why is the british pornographic industry so up in arms about blank music tapes?'
Blank video tapes where amateur exhibitionists can make their own porn is killing pornography!
asmr
Arick; most people wont know how relevant that acronym is to the OP.
Daedalus Rising you're not alone lol
I thought that ad campaign was bullshit! The record companies were making billions back then and still do today. One of the big reasons why people bought blank tapes was the pre-recorded cassettes the record companies made used cheap tape that sounded lousy and wore out quickly compared to a high quality Maxell or TDK High Bias tape from an LP or CD. In the credits on the Morell's 1983 "Shake and Push" LP it says: "UNAUTHORIZED DUPLICATION PROHIBITED (Unless you use good tape!)" Great overview.
No record companies still make millions just less millons than they would like lol
"You Wouldn't Download a Car"
We can now!
*3d printing intensifies*
... before downloading a really cool motorcycle which you can ride while the bigger download of the car completes!
Did you know they actually stole the music or something for that actual ad?
Amazing how far we've become in a few years...
And we would!
the don't copy that floppy thing was stupid, because the first thing every program manual told you to do was to copy the floppy disk and to use the copy instead of the original.
william wells Yep, It was right there in the IBM-PC DOS manual way back in '81, Your were implored to only use your "working copy" NOT the original!👍
The irony...
I did not know this, very interesting! By the time I started computing for myself, everyone had a hdd (for time reference, *my* first pc had an 800mb hdd, n it was cobbled together, begged, borrowed, haggled for), floppy were just for the install.
But if I think back to my Dads, Uncles, Mates Dads, etc computers, I never saw a legit boot disc. But the boot disc was always special. One, the whole sticker was just colored in green highlighter, one had scrawled in big red Sharpie BOOT, my favorite had 4 of those silver write protect stickers across the spine. You could always tell which disc was the required magic incantation that breathed life into that beige box. It was *special*. I've not thought about it for 30 years, amazing what detail a kids brain recalls.
Makes me think of three a Weird Al song "Don't Download This Song" (which, as you'd expect, was released as a free download from Weird Al's website).
After the music industry "dropped the ball" with the compact cassette, i.e. they didn't manage to ban home taping, they basically lost their proverbial sh*t over the DAT - Digital Audio Tape. This technology allowed the user to make a perfect copy of a digital CD album. The president of the RIAA even wrote an open letter in which he claimed that, quote, "An assasination is in the making. The targeted victim is the world's music industry (...) The chosen weapon is DAT - Digital Audio Tape. You of Japan invent marvelous machines but you damn those who fuel them!" Disgusting jingoism if you ask me.
For those interested I recommend watching Techmoan's video "Digital Audio Tape: The one DAT got away".
inferi312 Ironically, the largest user group of the DAT technology was the recording industry.
You KNOW that if these suits could somehow do it, you'd be charged EVERY time you played your own purchased recording you bought would DIVX Mission:Impossible this tape will self destruct .
a gov that resisted lobbying?! those were the days
If the music industry got their shit together and started producing good quality music albums with awesome artwork, like back in the 60s and 70s, then perhaps more people would strive to own the albums and not just copy from someone else.
Hell yeah, The loss of album art turned me off in the CD era. In the 70s, I'd buy an album even if I only dug 1 ot 2 tracks on it because the Album itself was art!
unironically this, probably one of the worst things to happen to music
Maybe BPI should have invested the money they spent on the campaign on paying their artists more. I could say that about a lot of the wasted corporate funds that continue to be spent on useless things to this day.
Those types of campaigns are based around, "the artists won't make enough if you pirate their music!". It was a complete waste of funds, because the campaign did nothing, that would have been better served elsewhere. That same type of waste is rampant in corporations today. Not weird in the slightest when you actually read what I wrote.
Adam Solomon i'd say the campaign actually had the opposite effect - it brought to the attention of people that it was possible.
A pack of batteries i purchased had a sticker on them saying "remove security sticker before putting in microwave" - i would never have thought of putting the batteries in a microwave if i hadn't been told not to do it.
As a coach driver i find i get less mess if I don't tell the passengers that they can't eat than ifvi tell them not to eat - in the latter case they try to eat surreptitiously having been given the idea of eating (being banned) and make more mess whereas with the former the idea of eating occurs to less of them and so less mess.
Well, I was a teenager with no money to buy records back in the 90s.
Logically I had to use cassettes if I wanted the same records my friends had.
areamusicale Everyone has to, it just impossible for a teenager to pay 20$ per album for 20albums and another 2-3 albums every month. Not even including the records you might wanna listen too to find out if you like it or not
YOU!!! YOU KILLED MUSIC!!!! I blame you for everything from Black Box on down to Taylor Swift!!!
I managed it just fine. Just gave BMG like 20 different names at the same address.
I taped my own vinyl albums so that I could listen tot hem on my walkman. Or to compile my favorite songs from different albums. Or even to tape off the radio.
I was in college at that time and was a DJ at the college radio station. I taped off a lot of albums we got free from the record companies to cassette then :)
Ironically, this is posted on TH-cam which is currently considered by the industry as a major source of pirated music.
Funny how as kids were taught to share. It's drilled into us almost from birth. Then we get the ability to share, and people freak out. "Oh no, don't share, that's stealing!"
The music industry is killing music!
"I can use this machine to copy my mate's Abba cassette"
That is the most British thing said EVER.
Home taping was not killing music. I home taped like a mofo all through the 80s and Duran Duran are still alive. :(
Michael Jackson died because of how often people home taped Thriller.
Star Dreamer if I tape a Justin Beiber song, will he kill himself? If so, how many tape recorders do I need?
He died in 2009. I had long since stopped taping by then. Therefore, you are wrong. I believe it was iPods that killed him.
wanttowant, I don't know, but I'll donate my tape recorder to the cause.
Here name was Rio and she dances on the saaand...
Another example that "piracy" has been killing music for 30 years...or you know, not killing it.
More great examples:
Ban cars, they are killing the transport industry!
Ban food ingredients, they are killing the restaurant industry!
Ban thread and needles, they are killing the apparel industry!
Ban cameras, they are killing the photography industry!
Ban education, they are killing the religious industry!
Ban home computers, they are killing the TV industry!
Ban TV, they are killing the radio industry!
Ban Radio, they are killing the newspaper industry!
Ban newspapers, they are killing the toilet paper industry!
Ban toilet paper, they are killing the hand-wash industry!
Ban hand-wash, they are killing the medical industry!
Ban medical industry, they are killing the mortician industry!
It will never end. People like to bitch.
themurmeli88 the "ban education" was the best I salute you my friend
I like ban education as well, but for different reasons.
Finally people can understand what being christian means, what Jesus taught us, and they can live like proper christians. ;)
Péter Szabó I'm sorry, can't relate. Most "proper Christians" I know of give, pardon my language, zero shits for the message of Christianity
that link is copyright claimed which i find hilarious
Most musicians DON'T MAKE MONEY ON RECORD SALES. Record companies make money on record sales. Musicians make money on concerts and merchandise sales. If you really want to support an act that you like, go see their concert and buy a t-shirt.
Justin Miyahara The record company does turn around and pay the sound guy, the art guy, the janitor who sweeps the floor of the recording studio...
Those people are already paid when the record is released. I used to work as an audio engineer. Piracy is not a good thing, perhaps. But the people it's really hurting are the record companies, which is the reason that they are the ones who keep supporting policies like this.
Radio is killing the concert industry.
Correction: iHeartRadio (Clear Channel) is killing the concert industry. But yes, you're right.
I've never heard of the pirate bay, but thanks to that tape logo on the sail, I'm now aware. The failed copyright protection legend lives on!
As long as it was only copyright protection that failed...
Pirate Bay has been around for a LONG time. I used PB before I got hip to torrent sites like Limewire/Frostwire
I thought Limewire & Frostwire were clients not sites/trackers... =S
Joey Ok? You had to go to their website to download.. You knew what I meant.
I never understood this whole "Pirates are killing the (insert copyable product here) industry". Its especially silly for the music industry. They say that pirates are killing the music industry, their profits are down and they can't make a living, the musicians they represent are being horribly financially harmed by this practice of copying songs. They say these things while I sit here in my roach infested apartment which costs nearly 3/4ths of my monthly salary! And they, and their musicians, are living in luxury apartments and mansions so big they need a small vehicle to get from their bedroom to the kitchen in a reasonable amount of time. It's ridiculous!
To be honest they should just STFU and let it go, be happy with what they have. In fact that might just increase their "lost profits", all those pirates out there that were just doing it to spite these obviously money hungry companies, would have less ammunition for their cause, and likely less customers turning to pirating.
Just once Id like to see a company actually come out and say "We are doing this purely for the money, we want more money despite the fact we are making a profit so large we can afford private jets, and cars that cost more than your house and the house next to it combined."
This kind of thing is exactly why food replicators will never exist. The food industry (who has already bought out most of the politicians) would make far too much noise and outcry.
Damn, and here all of this time I've been poorly singing my favorite songs into a recorder in order to make my mix tapes when I could have been copying them directly all of this time.
A question about U.S. law (for anyone who might know): I always thought it was perfectly legal to re-record a tape you have bought or to record from the radio, as long as it's for PERSONAL use, and you don't give it to someone (re: the romantic notion of gifting a "mixed tape.") Is this true, or maybe is this no longer true?
Kelly Fishbeck You are correct. It only violated copyright laws when you share that music or profit off it. Same for visual media like DvDs. The FBI warning at the beginning says that you are watching something intended for personal use. You cannot broadcast or share that video and you cannot profit from any viewings.
So you cant use your DvD library to host a block-wide cinema, you cant legally let someone else use it, and you can copy it an infinite amount of times, as long as you are the sole reason they are ever used.
Kelly Fishbeck Yep, still true, regardless of the media (records,tapes, CDs DVD,BluRays,Mp3,Mp4.) as long as you have an original copy, you can have as many copies for personal use as you want/need. I have my entire music collection digitizied and copies exist on my phone,tablet, PCs and my car. The originals are in my living room closet. And it's absolutely legal under US law. (IDK about other countries.).
Holy crap, the British government passing up a chance to tax people... That sort of thing is like seeing a unicorn.
Yar har, fiddle di dee,
Being a pirate is alright to be,
Do what you want ‘cause a pirate is free,
You are a pirate!
I heard this one over 10 years ago after searching for the term "pirate" on a P2P app. The copy is long since gone, I think, but the memory lives on. I also heard my first "Thievery Corporation" song on a P2P app. Ironic, no?
I don't think it should be illegal to make copies of something you've bought.
I mean, when I find an artist I really like, I'll actually make the effort to buy their CD's.
But do you really expect me to take that CD in the car, and take time and effort swapping disks in the sterio?
No - I'm copying them to my computer, and to the USB stick to play in the car.
I can keep the CD in mint condition, and use the digital copies everyday.
If I've paid for the music, I'm copying it to as many of my devices as possible so I have it wherever I am.
Dan Coulson If you like an artist, go to their shows and buy merchandise directly from them.
Physical copy sales dont even reach most artists, and when they do, no one gets more than 2-3% total sales.
Damn straight man.
The words in the title sound like they were picked out of a bucket and arranged where it kind of made sense but not really
That’s because they were recorded on Cassette Tapes first...lol :-D
??? I thought it made sense... I didn't even blink at that. I saw it as, "Summary Title: Subtopic 1 and Subtopic 2." Was it the weird "Killing music" campaign name that threw it off for you?
I get what they were trying to do, but...meh.
OK I'm 2 minutes in and I still have no idea wtf the titles means at all
The title makes sense once you understand the topic. But to be honest, the title was so nonsensical out of context that I clicked it just find out what it meant.
What really drove up the popularity of home recording was an abundence of poor quality pre recorded eight track and cassette tapes that were available at music stores in th 1970,s 80s with that distinctive crappy hissy ( 70s tape ) Sound. As a teenager, I avoided them, preferring to buy TDK, BASF, Memorex etc, blank tapes and record from a Dolby cassette player, although by the 80,s the quality of new pre recorded tapes did improve as well as sales, and the anti home recording rhetoric seemingly subsided until CD burners, mp3 and Napster came along.
The music industry promoting untalented crap is killing music
Yo-ho, yo-ho, a pirate's life for me!
Yarrr! Harr! A life of a pirate is also for me!
"Piracy is a crime, and crime doesn't pay
So we all go home poor at the end of a day"
fgregerfeaxcwfeffece Well you're poor to start with, what changes at the end of the day?
They say all the best things in life are free
So give your music and your films to me!
They're actually anti-music piracy
As a teen I spent hours in front of my family's Emerson stereo system with leaderless TDK tapes. Always leaderless. Didn't want to miss those first few crucial moments of the song! Ahhh memories.
Our public library had a rather odd policy on getting records. If five or six people requested a title they did not have, then they would buy a copy of that record, no matter what it was. They never seemed to register that it was the same half-dozen people every time, ordering obscure, and at times expensive new records. This half-dozen people would borrow the record, copy it, and then, after a few months, when nobody else had borrowed it, because of it's obscurity, one of those six would buy the record for a pound or so. I think, after about 35 years, it's safe to reveal that it was me and my mates. And I still have some of those records.
I recently bought a 1TB hard disk drive for the explicit purpose of storing downloaded MPEG-4 versions of movies, tv series and etc. It’s almost like the cassette thing, because it’s a portable external hard drive which uses a type of USB cable for power and data.
Dude, I had so many mix tape in the 80s and 90s... Which in turn left to me buying so many CDs and mp3s one I could afford them as an adult to have better sounding music.
Back in the UK the free Music Mag "Making Music" co-opted this phrase and changed it to "Home taping is skill in music"
Why would copying music for personal use be illegal? When I was little whenever we brought home a new CD he'd copy it to his computer, then give us a copy while storing the original. That meant we could have our own copies of the music, and if a disc was broken or lost we could get the music back.
Backups are just common sense.
The radio industry freaked long ago about the Wilcox-Gay Recordio machines that could make plastic records either with the microphone it came with or direct input from a properly equipped radio or what have you. Later versions had radios built in which really irritated them. This was back in the 40's and was probably the start of pinching copyrighted stuff.
My computer science teacher showed us "Dont Copy that Floppy" in class. This was around 2012-2014
7:43 "the British government did not agree" anybody else imagining a Walkman and a stack of mix tapes on the night stand in the queen's bedroom?
And that's why she's only head of state, not head of government. I only know this because of TIFO
't's a joke mate
When you get half a pickle with your sandwich, you are sharing a pickle with a stranger.
Rainbow Dash That sounds like something Mitch Hedberg would say
Copying youtube videos using Mozilla/firefox with the add on "Video download" is not nice, according to Google.
Don't do it.
Chris urquhart Because TH-cam removes a lot of videos, especially if they have copyrighted material in it or if they deal with subject matters that Google disapproves of. And some videos contain very rare footage that will otherwise get lost forever.
Insert "magic" between you and tube in the url of the video you want. No extension needed. While I don't think I've gotten any viruses from this method, It's always a good idea to keep your protection up to date and run scans regularly.
Not a reliable source. Google has demonstrated repeatedly that they have no idea what's nice and what's not.
Using "TubeMate" on Android is officially without a doubt NOT approved by Google either, 'Nuf Ced!
Fight for you're freedom. Who the eff cares what them isp's,and them googleplexians say, fight fo you're freedom. I download games for free,even tried out downloading video, it worked. Used it, in case somebody's channel went down, told their fans, to download,then reupload some of their videos. The'yre Channels did not go down.
Wait a minute! Every blank tape sold represented a potential lost sale for a musician... Where have I heard that argument before?
And in Germany we had the right to copy everything what wasn't nailed down (for private purposes only, though).
Not so much anymore (music industry has lobbied enough to got that changed).
But ... we still pay a premium fee on *ALL* storage (USB, hard disks, Cassettes, you name it) because technically we could copy copyrighted music and films on it even though technically we (mostly) aren't allowed anymore.
So you say, in the UK you cannot transfer music from a CD to you MP3? You can have on your MP3 only tracks bought online? That's a silly silly law..
I used to copy from the radio, but that was only to tide me over until I could buy the music. The quality of my cassette recordings left a lot to be desired.
I remember when I got my first cassette recorder(1974). Recording songs was a chore, especially when the DJ interrupted the music. We recorded the music from the radio because my parents could not afford to by the 45s and 33s(Albums).
You must have been recording from a top 40 AM station. Most FM station would not talk over the music intro.
ttun100 Yes, at the time(1974) Dallas only had Soul 73 KKDA AM. Sunrise to sunset.
@@airborne5642 Yeah, most stations with all Soul, and R&B music were only on the AM dial at that time.
I did lookup KKDA and saw it changed its format to Korean. That must have been a kick in the pants to loyal listeners.
ttun100 Yes, it was a major issue in the black community, when the format changed. I was living in another state when it happened. I still recall being the “10th caller” in an album giveaway contest. I won an album by the Chilites.
@@airborne5642 Good for you, I never won anything.
I bet it was a major issue, the only station in the market targeting music for the Black community. It could have and should have been handled differently. I'm not a xenophobe, but to take away the Black communities music that have listened for a generation to new comers, was wrong.
I'm sure the Korean community that arrived was probably bunched together in a small area, the FCC could have authorized a low power station to cater to their needs..
"Home Cooking is Killing the Restaurant Industry." Oh, you cheeky buggers, Lol.
I'm subbed to all 3 of your channels. It's your topics and voice man!
As a kid in the 90’s, I remember calling in to radio stations to request songs, then sitting by my stereo with a blank tape queue’d up ready to record the song. I would sit by the radio for hours trying to make the ultimate tape of my favorite songs. I spent ridiculous amounts of time doing this. I had so many tapes with all sorts of music I liked. It was tricky to time the recording so you got the beginning of a song without the radio dj introducing it, and stopping it without having the dj’s voice come back in to introduce the next song or commercial. It was an art form to me lol. Good memories though.
That tape looks a lot like a record.
Yes, a bit of confusion all round in this video! ;-)
I used to own software on FDD where on the label or manual it would state: making backup copies was allowed. Cassette tapes are basically the same thing as FDDs. I've had cassette tapes that I'd played so many times that the audio quality was somewhat diminished. So what if I wanted and made copies of said albums to preserve the original cassettes?
When the US blank tape tax started some sent away for free religious tapes to record over them. The quality was poor but then again tape to radio and tape to tape was never really that great quality wise to begin with using equipment that would be considered affordable.
If entertainment industry corporations had their way, your dvd movies and mp3s would be pay-per-view and locked to your DNA, and if anyone else looked or listened to them together with you your media would combust.
We still have a "tax" on blank CDs and DVDs in my country (Czechia)
Killer.exe Do they still tax horseshoes and oil lamps, too?
Same thing in Sweden. Even on external hard drives these days, which is why I'd just buy an internal drive and USB SATA interface if I needed one, because fuck Copyswede.
SAme thing in Latvia. But we have an updated version - all blank media, including flash drives, flash-cards, SSDs, HDDs, etc.
OH! You are right, I completely forgot that it's on USB flash and Hard drives as well. Pretty much any blank transferable media and things like CD/DVD burners are taxed "for the sake of music industry".
There has been a lawsuit where our Pirate Party (Which has gotten almost 10% in our latest elections) has been suing the agency collecting the tax because they used the media for non-infringing purposes and wanted the money back (While it was a popularity stunt it was pretty interesting), they lost however.
Guys, all your country laws regarding copycrap scare me a lot :S
Every record i bought was put onto tape. Record was only played once and never got scratched. Also tapes were cheaper than replacement stylus.
Yep! I remember doing that, keeping record playing for "best". :-)
I grew up in the 90's so I had a few Cassettes to record songs off the radio, then CD's came out, then tower music, and I was finally able to afford a Disk-man for $100, then I had to buy another Disk-man, because the new one was an anti Skipping Disk-man, then the late 90's napstar, faster dial up internet, then got a Mp3 player that could hold around 50 songs, the rest if history.
And your point is ??????
Why wouldn't/didn't the music industry use the same arguement that the computer software companies did: you're not buying a copy of the music, you are purchasing a licence of the music. Thus, any additional copy/copies made are "unlicensed" making it an illegal copy making you liable to be sued for "damages"
So it was a noose the music industry was tightening around their own neck for decades, then really cinching down when on-line data sharing came about?
I don't feel bad for them at all, they are the ones who wanted to maintain the same price for digital music; this without the investment and velocity that came with producing a physical product, and getting it to the consumer. Why would anyone have payed about a dollar a song, about the same as it cost when it would come on a CD, for a digital copy downloaded?
No physical product - CD or cassette, case, printed material, artwork... and all the work that goes into the materials, manufacturing... basically a whole level of logistics on it's own.
No logistics for the physical product - Warehouse and transport business profits, warehouse and transport employees working...
No retail brick and mortar purchases - Store profits, retail employees working (sales people, management, maintenance....), real estate transactions (build, buy, lease/rent...).
Loss of tax base - in all these steps there are visible (e.g., sales), and hidden (e.g., fuel) taxes that are collected.
They got too greedy, and the consumers needed to shift those costs to the purchase and upgrade of MP-3 players, memory, computers, Internet connections, and then eventually phones and data plans.
Back in the 90's, when I was a kid, I made mix tapes on blank cassettes since my family was pretty poor. But I got a job and I bought a lot of CD's when I was a teen...not so much anymore, but that's because music sucks now-a-days. I've purchased a bunch of vinyls too for some of my favourite artists and classical stuff that's harder to get on CD or in good digital quality.
So I hope I'm not killing music too badly...
The UK government thinks a tax is unnecessary? And they didn't follow the European mainland in a decision? What alternate dimension did I just phase into?
I have one of those record sleeves with that "skull and crossbones" warning - Christopher Cross' 1981/82 song "All Right", 12" Single, 45rpm WEA British import (I'm in Canada).
Leftatalbuquerque eh?
Leftatalbuquerque eh? And also, shut up, torrent link.
WOW, no blank cassettes in the UK until 1981? I got my first cassette recorder and blank tapes in 1969 here in the US. And what did I do shortly after I got it? Took apart my sister's record player and added a jack into the speaker circuit and got two plugs to fit the mic jack and the new jack and some wire to make a patch cord and began recording music onto cassettes; granted they were mostly 78 rpm records from the 1940s that I recorded. By the mid 1970s here, major players like Panasonic, Sanyo, et al, were selling all-in-one combo units consisting of a turntable, AM/FM Stereo receiver and 1 or 2 cassette decks so you could record anything to blank cassettes so you could play your tunes in your car, etc.
I never noticed that about the Pirate Bay's emblem during any my tens of thousands of visits to the site, during which I have consistently adhered to all applicable copyright laws, both State and Federal. Great work, TIFO.
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Alan Sugar creates his own custom Streisand effect...genius!
I love that the same logic of "while it can be used for illegal activities, it has its legitimate uses and is therefore legal" can be used for so many things from dual tape decks to kitchen knives. Not to mention the clever way that they covered their butts by saying "copying copyrighted music is illegal, but why not copy your own music" basically to give people the idea to make their own mixtapes without actually saying it and also saying its illegal, but most people know there is no real way to enforce it.
9:10 home cooking is killing the restaurant industry.
I never got any rebate or price break when I re-bought the same albums on 8-track and cassette and then again on CD and iTunes as technology changed. So, screw BPI, RIAA, and the corporate music industry. I loved Napster because of this.
Sounds contradictory since the British government imposes a TV tax on UK Citizens to fund the BBC whether they choose to watch it or a privately owned channel on cable or Sky that is paid for with commercials.
it's interesting how these media industries still try to pretend that pirated copies of their products are equal to lost revenue, when research has shown quite clearly that the bulk of pirated content is not going to people who would have otherwise paid for it. If they couldn't pirate it, they simply wouldn't have it, thus there is no actual loss on the part of the copyright owner in many cases.
I had to explain to my daughter what a cassette tape was when she found one of my old mixed tapes from highschool. That's how you *really* told someone you loved them...you made them a mix tape!
The primary legal argument regarding copyright enforcement in the US, at least, is that companies like Sony and Disney are committing violation of civil liberties, felony perjury, fraud, and possibly grand theft when they sue someone that is using copyrighted or trademarked material according to fair use.
It's a well-known problem, with Disney alone potentially owing upwards of 1 trillion US dollars in damages due to fines and civil compensation for its criminal activity in this regard.
Once again, spot on! When I was a kid I used to buy the album I wanted and a blank cassette to record it so I could listen to my music in the car (or anyplace where a turntable wasn't viable). In fact, some of the tapes I bought were of such high quality they cost more than the album itself! I remember resenting the idea of taxing cassettes because "some people" did the wrong thing.
Fun story
While in primary school I was in the school choir. Our teacher was teaching us songs for a competition that was upcoming and wanted us to practice at home. She tasked everyone to bring a tape in for tomorrow so she can put a copy of the songs on it for us each. Everyone didn't ask questions as she hated being asked questions, she was a 'listen to me and you'll learn.' Teacher. Next day I bring a cassette tape as she wanted. But I shit you not, I was the only one. The rest bought sellotape or nothing and were very confused. Apparently even their parents didn't know what a tape was. Shit like this reminds me that everyone is oblivious to history and will keep repeating the mistakes of the past too.
This was really interesting! Funny how the labels actually alerted customers to the possibility they could pirate music by buying blank tapes, they sure didn't think that one through!
Maxwell, to me, is a big name in home recording for audio or video. Maxwell made the tapes, the cam corders, the tape recorders, and the playback machines.
I love how one of the background pictures for the "Home Taping is Killing Music" has in the bottom right corner "Home Cooking is Killing The Restaurant Industry" lol
‘You wouldn’t steal a car ......’
I loved that anti piracy psa 😂
Music and censorship laws always fascinate me. More please
Wait, there was a comma after "Vladimir Putin" right? Otherwise that dude just got a lot scarier.
This makes me feel old & I'm only 32. If you talk to a kid these days, they would be like, what's that thing again? Ooh an ancient thing...So, here is my own experience.
So once upon a time a way to distribute music to the masses appeared, the cassettes. They were easier to make, less bulky than a vinyl & cheap. Basically perfect for teenagers, especially paired with the indispensable item, the walkman. One huge problem was that cassettes were fragile. If you played them too many time, they started deteriorating. Copying on blank tapes, which were quite frankly of a much better quality, allowed you to preserve your favorite music. Another wonderful use was that it allowed you to create your favorite mix of songs & share it with others. The funny thing is that everyone I knew back then, when they discovered a new artist they liked or already liked an artist, always went & bought the music of that artist. It was a lot cooler to own the originals, with the pictures and song names. I remember displaying my favorites as decoration. Unless you didn't have the means to buy originals, blank tapes were for not so liked artists, mixes & preservation.
Than the shiny rainbow colored CD's appeared & paired with the brand new computers, a new world opened up. But still people, not being robots, wanted to mix music & listen to music everywhere, so copies were made. CD's also had flaws. They deteriorated slower than cassettes, but they still did & they got scratched so easily it was maddening. So preservation copies were made too. Still once again, people loved buying the Cd's of artists they cherished. To me it was like sharing the experience of wonderful music with them. It is a hard to explain feeling, holding the physical object in your hand.
Then another revolution happened. Suddenly, with the new millennium came a new invention, MP3 players. You could put a lot, than all your music in a tiny device that fit in your pocket, scroll & instantly switch to another song if you wanted. It was liberating. Then you stopped needing to go to a physical store to get your music. It was available everywhere at the click of a button. Somewhere along the line music became immaterial. I don't remember the last time I bought a physical CD. More than 10 years ago I guess. I think that people went into a frenzy when the access to music became so easy & the storage space so huge. Quantity overpowered quality. After all, you had to fill that empty space.
Today, there are so many ways to access beloved music, different ways to support the artists you like. I feel that we are a bit closer to a balance again.
On one side, I want to support talented artists. On the other, music, like any other human creation was always meant to be shared, sent into the distance to inspire many, transformed to create something new. The rigidity of copyright laws is suffocating.
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Same thing with VCR tapes; in the late 80's I used to tape TV sport and shows and mail them to my relatives in the UK, and they would tape shows and mail them back to me [Australia].
Oddly, the 1977 international laws governing copyright state that the consumer can legally make and own a "backup copy" of any copyrighted media they have purchased.
However, by the time VHS, CDs, DVDs, etc, came out, the consumer STILL had this right, and the devices to perform such tasks were also legal to own. However the software necessary to perform the task was illegal to own, if said software contained the ability to "crack" copyright protection.
In addition, the copyright holder can legally attach copy protection to their media to prevent the consumer from exercising their legal right to own a backup copy (a loophole infringing on consumer rights that should not be legal).
Past Example: I would frequently buy a music CD, immediately take it home, make one copy for the car so the original copy would not get scratched up, then place the original back in its case and onto the CD shelf at home for safekeeping.
So, you don't break the law by OWNING or MAKING backup copies of purchased copyrighted materials, but you ARE breaking the law by using the software necessary to make the backup copy if that software overrides any existing copy protection.
Yes, I am aware that this makes no sense.
The record companies campaigned against records being played on the radio in the US in the 30s and 40s. In the UK in the 70s there was needle time restricting the amount of records played in the UK
during Prohibition, the beer companies sold malt with instructions how not to use it to make illegal beer printed on the package
Please do a video about sensory deprivation.
From around 1972 I used to buy vinyl albums and immediately copy them to cassette. The vinyls stayed in their sleeves and if the cassette was damaged, easy enough to record another tape. If the expensive vinyls were damaged, then you had to buy another. At that time one album cost most of my week's disposable income. Now I rip CDs I've bought onto an MP3 player. My house is full of original vinyl, CDs and DVDs, and I can listen to my music whenever I want.
What has helped destroy the music industry is its own rapacious greed. The new 360 degree contracts young bands have to sign are evidence of this. The company takes a share of anything the group makes, even if the company had no hand in generating the income. This includes merch, fan club earnings, anything at all, and they don't have to do anything to earn it.
There is also the hangover from the days of very fragile 78 records. Because they broke so easily, retailers would get a free record for every 10 they stocked. If they received 11 pristine records they could sell the 11th. If they sold it, they kept all of the money they made. The group and record company did not see anything of this.
Now music is sold digitally, not even in a physical form, the same applies apparently, and has done even since vinyl records were strong enough not to break during transit. So, for every 11 copies sold, the group gets a pittance for 10 of them, and nothing for the 11th.
What I can't understand is why the millionaire groups, some of whom are so keen for us to give our money to charities they promote, aren't out there giving young musicians a better start with fair contracts. In the long term they would become even richer, but would ensure a new generation of musicians being able to earn a living form their music.
2:14 faint car horn in background. Actually heard it faintly and thought someone was in my driveway. lol
I love Alan Sugar's style. It's the first time I'd heard about that statement.
Also, the reason that CD recorders only worked with audio CD-R/RWs was there was a tax on the blank discs.
I find it interesting that Alan Sugar used "don't pirate music" as a way to let consumers know they could pirate music, then the music industry came along and tried the exact same warning to prevent it.
Ohh the good ol' days! Kids today really missed out on the labor of love that was the "mix tape".
Sitting in front of your gigantic HiFi component system on Sunday afternoons. Listening to Casey Kasem's top 40. Fingers paused on the record button. Just waiting for the moment for your favorite songs the begin. And praying to the music gods that Casey didn't start yammering during your favorite part of the song.
For a second, i totally registered that he was listing putin as America’s first serial killer
This is like when they started putting parental advisory stickers on tapes and cds. It had the opposite effect from what was intended.