I'm very excited to get my "full Monty" upgrade this spring, if all works out. Traxxion is just down the road a bit from me, so I can go right to the Master!!
I've got a 2019 and I've had no problems with the suspension. I weigh over 220 and I placed mine in one up rider with a load from the beginning. Two up when I ride with my 12 yr old niece...no problems, no need for an upgrade!
I've seen a few reviews saying the 2018 was quite harsh on bumps, maybe their rear preload was just set to the minimum and they were bottoming out? I'm 200lbs, and will be riding with my 120lbs gf, and really looking forward to demoing the latest generation goldwing. I want comfort, if I want sportiness there's plenty better, lighter options out there :)
With the front shocks side by side I noticed that the new one doesn't have a wire going to it. So I guess the front suspension will no longer change with the different rider settings?
I'm over here in the UK with a 1981 GL1100 and 2004 GL1800. Been getting sleepless nights over whether to swap the 18 in for a new DCT but having watched so many ride reviews (less luggage space and over complicated infotainment), and all of Max's videos on the new suspension, I'm not convinced that it's worth the 20,000GBP I'd have to find. But my question is, how do US bike insurers view these suspension upgrades (and darksiders for that matter). UK insurers don't want to know and what's the point of riding a 30,000GBP motorcycle on insurance that's null and void?
If you tour, the bike stock is just fine, it's the best handling GoldWing to date straight out of the box. To answer your question, it’s more consistent, I wouldn’t call it stiffer. But in terms of it being softer than stock? No, it’s firmer, but very consistent and comfortable. Thanks for the question! Ride safe.
I'm 6'5 350 lbs so by the time the old lady 6ft 150lbs gets on it the stock suspension is not great but not bad either guessing this kit installed it $3k?
Great example of why the four rear preload settings on the 2018+ are a nonsense and a retrograde change for change sake. My wife and I are 280lbs combined.
Wow!!! Thank goodness for Traxxion Dynamics! I'm sold, and saving up money for my 2002 GL1800 now (I've seen other videos also).... It seems like THIS is the FIRST upgrade GoldWing owners should consider....
This is the *first* upgrade to consider? Are you getting a paycheck from these guys? (laughing) I've run this machine from coast to coast twice, and the suspension is just one more piece of engineering excellence on this bike.
Nothing out of the ordinary. Standard left side bias wear. TWI's all showing even at all points (360). I've run only sets of the B-stones so far. Had a couple odd tire indications (warning lights) but they were false alarms - one of which I understood and some I'm not entirely certain of why it indicated. . I've been watching this bike like a hawk through ups, downs, mountains, plains, hail, fire and rain...LOL ;-) Plain and simple? I'm impressed. I've been riding a long time. Ridden them all - took a rat 350 from Maine to Florida two times (I don't recommend it) - and while I could give you a list of persnickety points, this bike came out of the box ready to pick a fight and kick some ass - which it has done. LOL
Well, let's put it this way: 1. Mine is a 2002 GL1800 and I just got it, and I don't remember what my 2001 felt like, but on this one the front suspension feels HARSH almost like it is either bottomed out most of the time, or the the anti-dive mechanism is kicked in full time. 2. I got the Fully Monty upgrade just 2 weeks ago, and it's like night and day. The biggest difference is that it absorbs small- and medium-sized bumps now without delivering the bump all the way to the handlebars. The next biggest difference is that I can feel SO much more relaxed on bumpy curves. Way better control. 3. So for me, had I known about this sooner, YES, of all the mods on this bike, THIS is the one I would have considered first. 4. No, I'm just a customer who's now very happy with my suspension.
So I see that there are different load springs available when ordering the shocks:Light Load, Standard Load, and heavy Load.Can someone please list the recommended weight ranges for each load range?#WingStuff#TraxxionDynamics
The price included the cost of the shocks + about $800 labor for a 7-8 hour job (with Max the owner of Traxxion installing) so right around $2400.This was over 4 years ago, however, so prices have probably changed. Thanks for your question!
Hi Jim, thanks for asking. The price included the cost of the shocks + about $800 labor for a 7-8 hour job (with Max the owner of Traxxion installing) so right around $2400.This was a few years ago, however, so prices may have changed.
Hey Barry, costs may have changed but when we did the upgrade a few years ago it was the cost of the shocks + about $800 labor for a 7-8 hour job so right around $2400. Thanks for your question!
I've put the new GWT through serious trials. Track and field. Unless someone can explain the *need* (read that as "check your motives") for breaking down a marvel of engineering to retrofit yet another set of "Miracle "Upgrades" - I think I'll pass. This machine rides like a rail bound cheetah right out of the box. I'll have to echo wisdom that has served me well - Why would you "fix" functioning excellence?
I agree this bike is an engineering marvel. It rides sufficiently enough for most folks. To me it’s not a fix but rather an enhancement. Like putting coil-over suspension on your Corvette or sports car. It’s OEM suspension as engineered for the car works just fine, but the coil-overs bring the car to another level of handling capability by a tighter ride and feel of the machine. It’s for those to extrapolate even more out of their GoldWings.
First thing I did to my Harley V-rod is change the front fork springs out to heavier ones and get 2 rear shocks that were more adjustable.. what a joke!! lol people change there suspension all the time on all types of bikes doesn't mean inferior.
Hey Rick. I'm a complete fan of Traxxion Dynamics but here's the thing. You spend $30k on a GW then you're accepting of the FACT that you NEED to spend another $3k on Max to put right what Honda should have done for $30k in the first place. All hail to Max, he's a God as far I'm concerned. But it gets me that 99% of 2018+ GW owners appear to blindly ignore the elephant in the room. At $30k for a GW Max should be out of business. Rock on Max.
Hey there Michael. First off, thanks for your comment and for raising an important and popular concern. Do you NEED to upgrade your suspension for the 2018+ Gold Wing? Well I guess it depends on who you ask. In my opinion the stock suspension and handling on the 2018+ Gold Wing is THE absolute best I've experienced on a Wing. Can it be better? Of course it can! Do I want to improve my riding experience through better handling and suspension? Of course I do! Is it worth the cost to make something great even better? That's up to each individual to decide. I’ve always done modifications to improve suspension on all my bikes. Even if it’s great, if I can improve it, why not? Maybe for most, they’re already very satisfied. I hope this helps...ride safe!
Basically max is for more solid ground feelin, really for performance and safty with max system. Honda jus give you comfort... if u cant afford simple put bike in 2 up and luggage .mode in setttin and this will kind of be water down version to max system but more play or room to travel wit max system
@@bladerunna2022 Not really. My wife and I weigh in at under 300lbs. Other couples might be 4-500lbs or more. Then add luggage (and even trailer tow ball weight). Those silly icons mean nothing. I've been a Wingnut for over 40 years, my first was a '76 GL1000. EVERY generation of GW has never had suspension that was up to the weight or the price tag.
I'm very excited to get my "full Monty" upgrade this spring, if all works out. Traxxion is just down the road a bit from me, so I can go right to the Master!!
I've got a 2019 and I've had no problems with the suspension. I weigh over 220 and I placed mine in one up rider with a load from the beginning. Two up when I ride with my 12 yr old niece...no problems, no need for an upgrade!
Thanks for your feedback, Miguel.
In April I get mine on my new 22 and can’t wait
Max is a brilliant. Super smart. Thanks for shearing.
I've seen a few reviews saying the 2018 was quite harsh on bumps, maybe their rear preload was just set to the minimum and they were bottoming out? I'm 200lbs, and will be riding with my 120lbs gf, and really looking forward to demoing the latest generation goldwing. I want comfort, if I want sportiness there's plenty better, lighter options out there :)
Thanks for your comment!
No problem with my 2018
With the front shocks side by side I noticed that the new one doesn't have a wire going to it. So I guess the front suspension will no longer change with the different rider settings?
I'm over here in the UK with a 1981 GL1100 and 2004 GL1800. Been getting sleepless nights over whether to swap the 18 in for a new DCT but having watched so many ride reviews (less luggage space and over complicated infotainment), and all of Max's videos on the new suspension, I'm not convinced that it's worth the 20,000GBP I'd have to find. But my question is, how do US bike insurers view these suspension upgrades (and darksiders for that matter). UK insurers don't want to know and what's the point of riding a 30,000GBP motorcycle on insurance that's null and void?
Thanks Rick for the great review on the New upgrade suspension. ride safe my friend
Is it softer or harder after the swap? I dont want to make my bike more stiff. I need it to be even softer at the rear..
If you tour, the bike stock is just fine, it's the best handling GoldWing to date straight out of the box. To answer your question, it’s more consistent, I wouldn’t call it stiffer. But in terms of it being softer than stock? No, it’s firmer, but very consistent and comfortable. Thanks for the question! Ride safe.
Gosh I wish I could do this.
I'm 6'5 350 lbs so by the time the old lady 6ft 150lbs gets on it the stock suspension is not great but not bad either guessing this kit installed it $3k?
The cost of the shocks + about $800 labor for a 7-8 hour job so right around $2400.
Great example of why the four rear preload settings on the 2018+ are a nonsense and a retrograde change for change sake. My wife and I are 280lbs combined.
The shocks having to be replace speaks to the fit and finish of the Goldwing!
Wow!!! Thank goodness for Traxxion Dynamics! I'm sold, and saving up money for my 2002 GL1800 now (I've seen other videos also).... It seems like THIS is the FIRST upgrade GoldWing owners should consider....
This is the *first* upgrade to consider? Are you getting a paycheck from these guys? (laughing) I've run this machine from coast to coast twice, and the suspension is just one more piece of engineering excellence on this bike.
B. Randal, that's a lot of miles on the new GWT. Did you have any issues with premature tire cupping or irregular wear?
Nothing out of the ordinary. Standard left side bias wear. TWI's all showing even at all points (360). I've run only sets of the B-stones so far. Had a couple odd tire indications (warning lights) but they were false alarms - one of which I understood and some I'm not entirely certain of why it indicated. . I've been watching this bike like a hawk through ups, downs, mountains, plains, hail, fire and rain...LOL ;-) Plain and simple? I'm impressed. I've been riding a long time. Ridden them all - took a rat 350 from Maine to Florida two times (I don't recommend it) - and while I could give you a list of persnickety points, this bike came out of the box ready to pick a fight and kick some ass - which it has done. LOL
Well, let's put it this way:
1. Mine is a 2002 GL1800 and I just got it, and I don't remember what my 2001 felt like, but on this one the front suspension feels HARSH almost like it is either bottomed out most of the time, or the the anti-dive mechanism is kicked in full time.
2. I got the Fully Monty upgrade just 2 weeks ago, and it's like night and day. The biggest difference is that it absorbs small- and medium-sized bumps now without delivering the bump all the way to the handlebars. The next biggest difference is that I can feel SO much more relaxed on bumpy curves. Way better control.
3. So for me, had I known about this sooner, YES, of all the mods on this bike, THIS is the one I would have considered first.
4. No, I'm just a customer who's now very happy with my suspension.
Also, glad to hear you're impressed with the bike and it's handling. I look forward to getting a 2018 (or newer) myself. :-)
So I see that there are different load springs available when ordering the shocks:Light Load, Standard Load, and heavy Load.Can someone please list the recommended weight ranges for each load range?#WingStuff#TraxxionDynamics
Roughly speaking, how much is this upgrade?
The price included the cost of the shocks + about $800 labor for a 7-8 hour job (with Max the owner of Traxxion installing) so right around $2400.This was over 4 years ago, however, so prices have probably changed. Thanks for your question!
Hello, so how much did this cost you all in?
Hi Jim, thanks for asking. The price included the cost of the shocks + about $800 labor for a 7-8 hour job (with Max the owner of Traxxion installing) so right around $2400.This was a few years ago, however, so prices may have changed.
I hope to one day get a 18 Goldwing and outfit it with Traxxion Dynamics Gear! Ride on and nice looking Goldwing Tour. Motorman out
So how many hours of labor to have installed?
It was about a 7-8 hour job from start to finish. There is so much tear down to do on the bike, just to be able to get to the shocks.
@@WingStuffTV price to do it?
Thanks for asking, Rick. The cost for labor was $800.
What is the cost to change ge out front a d rear shocks
Hey Barry, costs may have changed but when we did the upgrade a few years ago it was the cost of the shocks + about $800 labor for a 7-8 hour job so right around $2400. Thanks for your question!
How are we doing with the 2018 passenger hand grips?
Hi John, thanks for asking...Traxxion's 2018 passenger hand grips should be available at WingStuff in a couple weeks!
I've put the new GWT through serious trials. Track and field. Unless someone can explain the *need* (read that as "check your motives") for breaking down a marvel of engineering to retrofit yet another set of "Miracle "Upgrades" - I think I'll pass. This machine rides like a rail bound cheetah right out of the box. I'll have to echo wisdom that has served me well - Why would you "fix" functioning excellence?
I have to agree, 2600+ miles on my 2018 and just don't see the need to change at this point
I agree this bike is an engineering marvel. It rides sufficiently enough for most folks. To me it’s not a fix but rather an enhancement. Like putting coil-over suspension on your Corvette or sports car. It’s OEM suspension as engineered for the car works just fine, but the coil-overs bring the car to another level of handling capability by a tighter ride and feel of the machine. It’s for those to extrapolate even more out of their GoldWings.
kill the music, too much!
So there is perfect and then there is a little more perfect and you can tell the difference? mmkay
I had to kill the noise so I didn't hear you say anything.
pay big money for new bike then have to upgrade its inferior factory suspension is a Joke!
First thing I did to my Harley V-rod is change the front fork springs out to heavier ones and get 2 rear shocks that were more adjustable.. what a joke!! lol people change there suspension all the time on all types of bikes doesn't mean inferior.
Agree with Nick, but I have four bikes and only one has the stock suspension.
Hey Rick. I'm a complete fan of Traxxion Dynamics but here's the thing. You spend $30k on a GW then you're accepting of the FACT that you NEED to spend another $3k on Max to put right what Honda should have done for $30k in the first place. All hail to Max, he's a God as far I'm concerned. But it gets me that 99% of 2018+ GW owners appear to blindly ignore the elephant in the room. At $30k for a GW Max should be out of business. Rock on Max.
Hey there Michael. First off, thanks for your comment and for raising an important and popular concern. Do you NEED to upgrade your suspension for the 2018+ Gold Wing? Well I guess it depends on who you ask. In my opinion the stock suspension and handling on the 2018+ Gold Wing is THE absolute best I've experienced on a Wing. Can it be better? Of course it can! Do I want to improve my riding experience through better handling and suspension? Of course I do! Is it worth the cost to make something great even better? That's up to each individual to decide. I’ve always done modifications to improve suspension on all my bikes. Even if it’s great, if I can improve it, why not? Maybe for most, they’re already very satisfied. I hope this helps...ride safe!
Basically max is for more solid ground feelin, really for performance and safty with max system. Honda jus give you comfort... if u cant afford simple put bike in 2 up and luggage .mode in setttin and this will kind of be water down version to max system but more play or room to travel wit max system
Going to get front soon amd install myself
@@bladerunna2022 Not really. My wife and I weigh in at under 300lbs. Other couples might be 4-500lbs or more. Then add luggage (and even trailer tow ball weight). Those silly icons mean nothing. I've been a Wingnut for over 40 years, my first was a '76 GL1000. EVERY generation of GW has never had suspension that was up to the weight or the price tag.
Every bike I have ever owned, I upgraded the suspension.