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- Hey Guys. I'm covering this because as a member of NAFO and r/Noncredibledefense I could not let this go unanswered. The original stream was 3 hours long and quite frankly no one has the time nor inclination to deal with Gonzalo Lira and his Vatnik nonsense for that long.
So I suffered through the whole thing. Edited out the screeching and got down to where LazerPig and Gonzalo actually "conversed". As well as keeping in the funny parts. I occasionally jump in to debunk him.
So, turn off League of Legends. Tune out the news about Andrew Tate getting hospitalised or dumb things Prince Harry has said. And prepare for the undisputed worst debate in recent TH-cam history.
Support the channel on Patreon folks... I need it
/ animarchy
Just so you guys know. I pulled a 24 Hour All Nighter for this bad boy. I'm also mad I didn't get to join. Also, for those interested. I actually sing the Ukrainian National Anthem in English over the Credits. So if you want more ear pain. Good luck!
That's impressive commitment for not only watching all three hours of that clusterfuck but also pulling an all nighter to write and edit this video. Well done sire!
Thats commendable. I tried to just watch it and just couldn't bring myself to do it. My brain just refused. Every second i could only think about what Lazerpig could have done with all this time in videoproduction 😭
We were there for you. As you descended into vatnik madness.
I’ll be honest, I was really looking forward to the aid videos. But this was way too memeable. From now on, the phrase “1:48:05” can be used to wish someone a painful death.
Great respect!
Dude basically created a dialogue tree and wanted his opponents to go through it. NPC behaviour.
Peak NPC behaviour.
OMG you are also here lol
Define NPC behaviour.
@@AlejandroHernandez-ej9fk Basically, yes or no
@@AlejandroHernandez-ej9fk the opposite of Main Character behaviour
This was an shamefull performance of Lazerpig. He made good arguments, was coherent, patient, and even polite throughout most of it. I dare even to doubt he was drunk at all!
Oh, thank you for the giggle!
Only those who have watched his stuff may get this joke but goddamn it’s a good one lmaoo
As a functioning individual I assume people are lying to me if they aren’t drunk. Shameful behavior from Lazerpig
it's still possible to play coke card here)
@@worldspam5682 coherent and patient are mutually exclusive with "coked out to the tits"
Public poll to officially declare LazerPig an LGBT Icon
LazerPig is the Live Action Inosuke
He's a national treasure.
i second this!
Second that! He makes me a little ashamed of being hetero.
100% icon. When the words "oh honey" come out...
The fact he's using "Piggy" as an insult against a guy who literally puts a pig as his profile picture everywhere is great
It's like when Wheatley tries to insult you in Portal 2.
@@KennyHazy97 "fatty, no parents"
Not to mention he calls himself a talking pig xD
"Will you just Start squeeling?"
"Yes. I'm a pig."
I really wish I found this sooner because I am cracking up and i'm just enjoying this
I’ve seen flat earth believers be more civil and respectful in a debate than Gonzalo Lira
I guess you have not watched FTFE's livestreams lol. Also Gonzalo Lira reminds me of a flat earther, show them crystal clear evidence and they still reject it calling people shills and other nastier crap.
I'm pretty sure a lot of flat earthers are just trolling for the laughs and don't believe a word of it.
Stolen
Him and his budget powerpoint slides.
@@CaptainWelshie I have actually seen a lot of FTFE livestreams in the past.
I have only seen a tiny bit of this Gonzalo Lira debate yet and I don't even want to contiue anymore. The cringe is just too hard.
The flat earthers actually didn't manage to do that to me, as insane as they are.
I am normally one of the few people on this planet who don't drink alcohol at all, but Lira actually made me want to be drunk after just a minute.
Y'know, props to Destiny for hearing "If you ragequit you lose" and instantly going "yeah I lose, goodbye."
@@wombatgirl997 Mercury can be emitted from natural sources (e.g. volcanoes) and human sources (e.g. coal-fired electric power plants and gold mining). After being emitted, mercury cycles from rainwater into lakes and oceans, where it is digested by plankton and converted into methylmercury.
@@wombatgirl997 Unironically the line goes hard, he would never change his mind, since he's so fcking close minded so he in turn wasted his time and lost
@@danielsurvivor1372 get your M.Pox vaxseen soon, won't you; and don't forget; ''wake me up, before you go go....''
The West, the Eu, and the NATO countries all imposed 'sanctions' so now live with the consequences!!! It is one thing to decide not to buy an item for yourself, but when you decide for millions of other people; it is another matter! I don't care who sells or who makes the items I want to buy. If I want it bad enough, I will buy it or find it somewhere else! The West doesn't want Peace. They want an expanded NATO and a weakened Russia. So live with your choices or get rid of the politicians that 'choose' for you!
Eastern Ukraine was fighting against nazis during WWII, while Western Ukraine allied with nazis. Eastern Ukraine was always pro-Soviet, while Western Ukraine was always highly anti-Soviet. And even the religion is different (Orthodox vs Uniate).
So the internal division in this artificial state is so deep it's actually amazing how they could manage to live together for 23 years (1991-2014) without civil war.
As a wise man once said, “It’s hard to win an argument with a genius, it’s impossible to win an argument with an idiot”.
evidentally Lazerpig did the impossible because he won against the idiot, in Lira's own words "the first to rage quit loses"
*Cocks gun* I believe in proving the impossible possible
How about: ''If you can't afford a war, don't have one''???🤔
@Tim van der Velden How about: ''If you can't afford a war, don't have one''???🤔
@@anthonyrodriguez8788 How about: ''If you can't afford a war, don't have one''???🤔
How Gonzalo thinks a debate works:
- one of the participants acts as the moderator
- that participant gets to bring a powerpoint presentation and click through it slide by slide
- all questions are yes/no answers because nuance and context dont exist
- the other participant is not allowed to bring their own topics to the table
- the moderator participant gets to dictate to the other participant what their own view on every topic is
- the moderator participant can interrupt whenever they feel like it
- attempting to answer in more than a "yes" or "no" is the same as not answering a question
- being interrupted and cutoff by the moderator also means you didnt answer the question, and thats your own fault
Yes. That what people think politics IS about, and not "both of us bring something to The tablet and we try to make both of your points into something we can agree".
Gonzalo tried to use a logical fallacy known as Double bind .
It would have worked perfectly, if the other side had been tied down and prepped for electric shocks,
but I guess that could be said about many of GL's plans.
@@samfire3067 What you have said is not what politics is. A debate is not meant to make points malleable and create something both sides can agree on. Some debates are meant to enlighten listeners, others are meant to convince the listeners watching of a viewpoint. Making both points into something both parties can agree on is diplomacy, but not debate.
@@AverageLaddIn my opinion, debates where there are no common ground that participants occasionally agree on are the ones that usually develop into a toxic, mud-slinging mess.
"Ukraine counts its victories in square miles"
"Russia counts its victories in street names and house numbers:
Genuinely made me laugh
The "half way between a winery and a garbage dump" got me going too.
The West, the Eu, and the NATO countries all imposed 'sanctions' so now live with the consequences!!! It is one thing to decide not to buy an item for yourself, but when you decide for millions of other people; it is another matter! I don't care who sells or who makes the items I want to buy. If I want it bad enough, I will buy it or find it somewhere else! The West doesn't want Peace. They want an expanded NATO and a weakened Russia. So live with your choices or get rid of the politicians that 'choose' for you!
""Ukraine counts its victories in square miles"
"Russia counts its victories in street names and house numbers:
Genuinely made me laugh"
And stupidly fake. Russia isn't primarily fighting to take ground. They even outright said so from the start AND anyone with the slightest hint of braincells or military reading behind them can tell that because it's bloody obvious. Emphasis on "bloody".
Because Russian casualties so far, around 8 thousand KIA.
Ukraine KIAs, probably far exceeding 250000 by now. The last time any real info leaked was in August from a LPR general, the estimate then was more than 200 thousand Ukraine KIA. At almost the same time, a Russian official stated that their troops had BURIED over 60 thousand Ukraine dead. And then there's the Ukraine organisation that tried to verify status of their troops in November. They had incomplete information and still ended up with 237 thousand unaccounted for. Ie, most likely dead.
Of course, you're probably not going to accept that due to bias. So, lets instead ask something.
Ukraine started the war with 700 thousand in uniform. 260 thousand regular troops, all trained and equipped to the best level Nato could manage. 100 thousand nassiz, according to their own online bragging in January 2022. 45 thousand non-nassiz territorial defense battalions. 45 thousand in paramilitary units. 250 thousand in "ready reserve" that just happened to be already active.
And in December, Zaluzhny stated in interview that Ukraine had 700 thousand in uniform, of which 200 thousand were combat capable.
In between those two points, Ukraine performed NINE mobilisations. The only one we know the size of being the last, at 100 thousand.
They've also been pressganging several tens of thousands into service, but noone knows if it's 30 thousand or 100 thousand, just somewhere vaguely within that range.
So, since it's not normal to mobilise larger amounts of people late in a conflict, this suggests that Ukraine has mobilised an absolute minimum of 500 thousand and far more likely closer to a million, or even more.
So, where's that missing million troops now?
Even if we lowball Ukraine losses to the limit, while including the DPR and LPR losses, Russia and allies has 50 thousand dead and injured.
While Ukraine has 500 thousand.
Killratio of 10 to 1 in Russian favor when we give every freebie and interpretation and estimation in Ukraine favor.
If we count it more objectively, that killratio is somewhere in the 20-30 to 1 range. Very roughly, as it is difficult to get any reliable numbers, especially with how fervently Ukraine tries to hide their losses.
Demilitarisation of Ukraine, ongoing. Very efficiently.
Oh, and then there's what the argument in Poland revealed. They argued about the need for war cemetaries, because they didn't have enough room to bury the 1200 Poles that had died in Ukraine. That was back in November.
How many Poles do you think are needed to be in Ukraine for them to take that many KIAs?
@@DIREWOLFx75 Slava ru.😎😎
@@DIREWOLFx75 Well said mate
"This is slide four of how many?"
"Ten."
*Wine bottle noises*
Severely needed. This Lira person is delusional
GL - "I care so much about the ukranian people"
LP - "Would you join me in singing the Ukranian anthem?"
GL - "NEXT QUESTION!"
If that wasnt telling moment then I dont know what was.
Lazerpig for the win
I read the GL as girls love for a moment
@@trainman7004 i read it as Grenade Launcher
He cares so much he was caught spying on them for Russia
“Is it true that you live in your mother’s basement?”
“I dunno, let me check. MOTHER?!”
One of the best parts of this whole thing.
Well it is true that GL is getting to live in a Ukrainian police cell.... WARDEN!
@@jb03hf “Shut up in there.”
LP summed it up beautifully; GL had no idea what to do when his insults were met with comedy. He needed LP to get triggered and ragequit, but instead LP was just meeting his insults with jokes and critically, not leaving.
@@skootmeister3994 I require more chee-TOOes!
@@jb03hf
And Russia sold Lira out and sealed his fate by instantly learning of and commenting on his arrest, thus confirming he was one of their assets.
"Define evil."
" The opposite of good."
"Define good."
"It's the opposite of evil."
How did he manage to say something and nothing at the same time?
I'm having flashback to early EARLY days of the internet where you'd hear shit like this and it was just as affectingly stupid then. These fart-sniffing morons who think it's clever because it's impossible to refute not because it actually is of any use.
This guy ain't no Aristotle, yet he felt he could tackle a modern-day Diogenes.
@@barleysixseventwo6665 To be fair nobody could take on Diogenes even back then. 😂
It's like talking to a water wheel, no?
There 4 types of good to me and 4 types of bad
Good:
The actually good
The not good good
And average which is basically something that is good and bad
And last I know its good but pls stop suggesting this idea
Evil:
Questionable
Crazy
Cartoonishly evil
And last the anti hero which is basically the intentions are good but holy fuck the methods are just pure evil.
we need to start a gofundme for LazerPig so we can afford to get him enough alcohol to forget this ever happened. LMFAO
And food, dont forget food, because apparentely all of britain has none…?
I think his liver would have to fail 3 times over to fully forget this shitshow
He has a Patreon
Go support him!
👍🏼🤣👍🏼🤣
Currently in talk with the French government so they release some of their strategic wine reserve for Le Cochon Lazer.
"the guy who rage quits is the guy who loses"
Damn, we're going back to 2003 internet troll rules.
And Lira was the one to rage quit.
unfortunately, people who vomit shit at the rate that Gonzolo Lira vomit it at only can be debated with that kind of rule. because debate logic doesnt work with them and they dont do it in good faith.
@@F14thunderhawk It's not a debate at that point. Lira stated it was there to determine whether the other two are ignorant or evil. That's no ground to talk on. Lazerpig did the best thing he could've done which was trigger the shit out of him while remaining calm.
I can't fucking believe 2003 was 20 years ago.
The man does seem to epitomize the whole "Russian Troll" persona.
"Bradley is an uparmored Jeep" Those "jeeps" took out a whole lot of soviet era tanks in Iraq, didn't they?
And a T-90M just the other day.
@@Shaun_Jones I saw that clip, that was well fought by the bradleys.
I legit think an actual HUMVE could and would destroy or at least disable a T-90 easily.
@DaYemenball I mean a well placed tow missle would kill pretty much any soviet tank, especially if you can get like 3 shots on it
last time I checked, jeeps didn't have 30mm autocanons or ATGMs.
Gonzalo Lira's debating skill level: >Iranian Tribunal
Nah this on the level of Romania's tribunal against Ceausescu.
@@d0mram-02 nah the Iraqi information minster
You put the "smaller than" symbol in the wrong way.
I think.
Or I didn't get the joke.
Like I said on his dumbass channel this was like watching a struggle session inside Gonzalo lira’s own head.
42:26
"I was literally 3 blocks away from the presidential palace in Kyiv, so I can say unequivocally that [the idea there were attempts on Zelenskyy] is just bullshit"
"He wasn't at the presidential palace though"
"I don't need to have been there to have known"
One of the fastest argument 180s I've ever seen.
I have actually spent much times a few blocks away from the presidential palace in Kyiv. I don't give a flying fuck what this asshole says, dropping bombs on innocent people makes them them the bad guys every time.
@@marshaltito7232 the dude said in 26 of february that russian is going to take over ukraine and that the west encouraged ukraine to poke russia and then dumped them without giving any military help and that they will not give any help in the future. The same dude says now that the west is prolonging the suffering of ukranians by giving military help. He is such an emotional guy. He literally hates ukraine for some reason
You're a great writer of twisted fiction
@@Goerge-lu3ok How many Ukies have you killed by leading them to their deaths???
@@drnoahjuvalhararihackableanima, well. We both can play such game. How many Rus and Asia people you killed by leading them to their deaths?
Gonzalo Lira is quite a good example of unwarranted self-importance.
This wasn't a debate, this was Lira trying to impress his chat.
This guy is so obviously kissing Russia's backside that he is deliberately twisting every protest against mismanagements in the West into either an inherent inferiority of the West against Russia or a punishment from Russia against the West.
I am personally an Euroskeptic, and watching Gonzalo trying to pose himself as one just hurts my brain so much.
He’s a con man. Kraut made an excellent video about him way back when.
I wish the chat was visible for documentation purposes. Those who watched live said it was 3.5 hours of the most antisemitic, homophobic comments they've ever seen.
Gonzalo screams fully committed communist through and through
@@petrusk842 I'll second that. The copium was so thick you could cut it
Dude died on the 1st anniversary of this video's release date.
Edit: He also died the way he wished for others: Painfully.
Well that isn’t that rather ironic
@@antitroller101Prophetic
He’s dead?
@@Wiskaksk2yup. Died in prison if I'm not mistaken
This brings me great joy
Can we talk about this quote
"You gonna keep squealing"
"Yeah, I'm a pig, oink bitch"
This is a perfect quote to sum up the entire interview
Lazerpigs later video explains it pretty well. Gonzalo Lira used ad hominems thinking it would trigger LP, but anyone who has seen LPs videos knows he's well past that point, so he just fell back on self deprecating humor as always, and that kept triggering GL so he kept upping the ante.
This wasn't a debate. It was a roadrunner sketch, and GL was playing the role of the coyote.
I woke my wife up laughing at that one, was fantastic. "Oink, Bitch!"
@@thespanishinquisition4078 Someone needs to animate this and give it to LP.
Yeah, you know I like inteligent debates and civil discourse. I don't think YT suggestion algorithm knows the difference yet.
Imagining lazerlamma rn: "Yeah, I'm a llama. Spit, bitch."
As a Ukrainian:
I just wanna talk to him *loads buckshot*, I JUST wanna talk to him
Rock salt works better. Gets under the skin, and well... it's a bitch to get out.
How about .50 BMG rat shot?
@@helljumper5601 Too quick.
@@helljumper5601 never heard of it but I love the implications behind the naming
@Lurking Carrier @Lurking Carrier To be honest it is scary af, how barriers for violence and hatred are melting away all around us and in us. I like to self reflect, and I was against any war anytime. Fought last time in school. Now But this... the shit they started, they gates to hell they opened for all of us, the lies they tell with this fake concern, they shit they do, to civilians, soldiers (who were civilians on 23.02, most of them), and to children especially. Ptn maimed entire generation here, in russia, and people around. Being exposed to this, even through tv is not a good thing. And will takes decades, even generations to move on.
I've been, not so long ago, on the border of Poland and Germany, the place ww2 started in 39. Now there is no border guards, no barbed wire, roads are not mined and bridges are not rigged to explode. That kind of perspective gives hope for the future
That debate was the equivalent of me as a 6 year old trying to explain to my parents why I shouldn’t do chores and why I should stay inside on my PS2, failing horribly all the while. I sure Hope Lazerpig didn’t lose 10 years off his lifespan from this… well whatever you would call that shitshow of a debate.
Nah. He's fine. That's why he was drinking _whine..._ 😅 Good for drowning out incoherent rambling of a Russian propagandist.
The only loser here was Lazerpigs wine cellar as best as I can tell.
@@Strettger Nah man, that cellar became a martyr.
Destiny was the smartest guy in the whole thing.
Left as soon as he realized it was not a debate.
@@nukclear2741 Lazerpig was a champ though for managing to piss off Lira without being rude
"Bradleys are worse than humvees." I bet the bradley operators that disabled that t90m would disagree, lol
Oh definitely.
We need a round table with Lazerpig, Animarchy, and Perun.
That would be chaos
Oh god yes!
I would be there for that!
Especially if it's a drunk stream
I would watch the living shit out of that... on all three channels so they get views on it.
YES, someone please get it done.
Throw Hypohystericalhistory in and it might shatter space-time. Im all for it.
Me as German munching into my spareribs listening to that vatnik telling me that I am starving.
Let me give you a BBQ sauce-drenched high five!
And also telling us that our industry is collapsing
@@germanboy7673 I drove a Mercedes GLC (which is much better than ANY Russian made car) while listening to the stream, as GL telling that Germany is collapsing... 😂
Germany: Making more sexy and expensive cars
Gonzalo: GERMANY IS COLLAPSING
@@johnsementa9844 Technically, in terms of Price vs. Quality, German cars are much more affordable than Russian cars, tbh...
Russian cars nowadays are basically overpriced junk... You're more likely to survive in a crash when driving a defective Toyota than a UAZ Hunter...
-Stacks Deck in his favor
-Sets the rules
-Dictates the position of the opposition
Still loses.
>gets invited to a debate
>Realize the questions are more complicated than true or false
>The debate is rigged
>Moderator is the same guy that hosted the debate
*>STILL WINS*
@@murkywateradminssions5219 love to see it
simply skill issue
@@Swagman12 Lira has a severe lack of skill in general lol
Sounds like a Yugioh episode where Yugi still wins against impossible odds.
Wait wait wait.
33:28
Did he just actually claim there is no food in the Netherlands? Is this man even aware that the Netherlands is the second biggest exporter by value of agricultural product, only behind the USA and ahead of countries famous for their fertile soil like France and Ukraine? The Hell?
Ludicrous. What a fool
they created more land to farm more, best farming sim players
I still cannot believe he genuinely said this, what a moron lol
@@Tikkibasse can confirm, the entirety of the Netherlands is farming simulator
The numbers are inflated because of reselling of imports, but still the Netherlands are a massive farm.
“I’m a pig. Oink bitch” has got to be the most testosterone fueled badass response to that question imaginable
In the words of the Pig himself: he knows who he is, and Lira had nothing to say that could hurt him.
Battle cry!
Strait facts
yes just yes XD
Fueled by the four elements: Fire, Water, Gay, and Armored Warfare
*Define "Evil"*
-Evil is The opposite of Good
*Define "good"*
-Good is The opposite of Evil
...
I don't want to live in this world anymore
I would have ended the "debate" right there.
That is no ground to debate, it's a bottomless pit.
@@Vulcano7965 The "what kind of tree would you be" makes it worth it though.
Evil is a duck.
@@otakonjunkie Quack quack mofo!
This is called circular reasoning fallacy. Basically one of the most basic error to avoid in ANY and EVERY argument.
Lazerpig: "So..."
Lira: "You don't wanna answer the question because you know I'm right!".
Lazerpig: "are you going to let me talk?"
Lira: "I won't interrupt you."
Lazerpig: ...
Lira: ...
Lazerpig: ...
Lira: ...
Lazerpig: "So..."
Lira: "You don't wanna answer the question because you know I'm right!"
Tldr of that shitshow of a "debate"
Timestamp?
@@saulkid7232 imagine simping for a washed up voice actor??🤣🤣
It’s not a direct transcript of the conversation.
@@RG001100 Surprise surprise, it's censored!? 🐑🐑🐑🐑
Fun drinking game: take a shot every time he says "zelensky regime"
You'd be hospitalized or dead in 15 minutes flat.
I think that’s what Pig was doing.
@@Shaun_Jones nah that's just how he drinks
I cant feel my LEGS
@@paladinstar That means it's working!
“The US is the only NATO Country producing shells… the Bradley is worse than a hummer” god this is pure copium
It’s also pure entertainment, need something to replace the Bradley wars in shear stupidity it becomes entertainment
So there’s no panick in the mobik camp? Every major non-NATO ally can work. And if the Bradley is a Jeep, then sending 3000 more cannot possibly escalate the situation~
funny thing is I think Spain makes more shells than the USA.
@@murphy7801 are you talking about that one Spanish company that has like $800 million worth of production capacity? Because once that kicks into gear oh god it’s gonna be like 1916
The last time they were the only producing nation in a war, a certain eastern nation literally got outnumbered 40:1 with SHIPS. Hell, even in ground US is out producing the USSR with tanks. Outproducing, and outdesigning
Gonzalo should be on russian state tv. He fits exactly with level of discussion, and quality of arguments. I find it marvelous that there are so brainwashed vatniks outside russia.
He’s paid well, the Ruzzian state media is well financed. In 2021 it was 1.5 billion USD in 2022 4.3 billion USD.
he has indeed been on RT before
They used one of his clips in a propaganda video early in the war. The hotel he was staying at in Kyiv threw him out because of it and later he received a visit from the SBU. If the "Zelensky regime" was as bad as he claims they would've deported him or worse, but they allowed him to stay in Ukraine and continue making his brain dead videos. I seriously doubt Russia would've been nearly as understanding if someone were to do the same thing there.
He was. Same with a few people he does talks with
@@jgreen802 yup in Russia he would have been thrown out a window
It is frankly infuriating to hear Gonzalo Lira, formerly Coach Red Pill, attempt to argue from a moral standpoint and declare himself the arbiter of good and evil. And to claim to love the Ukranian people and nation while throwing out propaganda from their vile enemies and referring to their legitimate government solely as 'the Zelensky regime'.
Lira began visiting Ukraine in 2012 for the same reason grotesque failed men visit poor nations all over the world: he was a sex tourist. He came stay after the 2014 invasion not for love but to take advantage of a nation in turmoil. I called him a dog in his own comments but that was wrong, he's something between a vulture and a hyena come to a dying beast hoping to chew what flesh was left on the bones.
Then, last year, when Russia broke the peace in Europe and invaded her neighbor, he joined with them, freelancing propaganda with a mind to a job in the inevitable post Russian victory regime. He fled Karkhov when it was clear his patrons had been defeated.
This is the reason he is so angry: the beast he thought dead, that he could pick the corpse of, was in point of fact a wounded lion. And that lion has claws.
How the fuck dare you insult Vultures and Hyenas like that. Youre crusing.
His tone completely changed when Lazer Pig dropped his old avatar name CRP. LOL id just tell him to go back to hanging out with Ethan Ralph
In defence of vultures. They actually furfill a vital role in their ecosystem.
They stop the spread of disease and fertilize the environment.
I'd say it's more accurate to think of him as a parasite.
Even if, much like a vulture. The dude was full of crap.
Could I get some information on this?
@@definitelynotakgbagent6612 look up the terms "Gonzalo Lira" and "coach red pill" and there should be plenty. The kind of insufferable loser who no one can stand in their home country so they move to an economically depressed nation where you can wave around a few benjamins and live like a king. I'm not surprised to hear him associated with Ethan Ralph (another odious individual), though I'm surprised to hear they had a falling out. Must have been tough competition in the vocal internet sex pest niche.
"Post Mortem" just got 10 times funnier
Let's be honest here, Garbanzo had it coming
LMAO 🤣
Lazerpig had a lot of great moments in this dumpster fire of a “debate”, but I think my favorite is “Honey, I’m Scottish; level up those insults, PLEASE”. Dude’s a legend for hanging in as long as he did and still remaining coherent and entertaining despite the insane levels of both alcohol and bullshit.
I think his actual greatest thing is seeing way before i did what the guys actual plan was on several occasions.
Lazerpig did see when Gonzalo wanted him to ragequit and also saw the carrot that was the attempt at a discussion about the Bradley Fighting Vehicle for what it was: a distraction.
I legit think that's just quite General Badass.
Just rewatch, Lazerpig was not even joking, it were legit attempts of the guy wanting a victory.
Alcohol and bullshit is currency in Scotland...Dude is a legend!...
"Answer the question, is the US and NATO and Ukraine winning the war against Russia??"
LazerPig: "well ukraine has captured over 70% of the la-"
"You live in your moms basement right"
Its like talking to a crackhead
Lazerpig:
I don't know, let me check.
MOTHER!!!
MOTHER, I REQUIRE ASSISTANCE!
Wished someone asked Lazerpig about his Vaxxination Status.
Ive got the Impression that those who are completely on Board with the promoted Ukraine Narrative are the roughly the same who were completely on Board with the Covid Narrative.
Youll have a hard Time finding any "I stand with Ukraine" Guy, who isnt vaxxed multiple Times, change my Mind.
@otter sir otten evidence is fairly clear (even with the dubious numerical effectiveness of the vaccines) that having the vaccine reduces your likelihood of getting covid despite exposure, reduces your symptoms and level of danger from covid if you have it (especially if you have other health complications), and reduces the rate of transmission.
Now we can argue whether it's 90% or 45% effective, but it's clear that being vaccinated is fairly helpful, especially if you have something like a respiratory problem. That's not something that can be denied.
What also can't be denied is that Russia is controlled by a man whose favorite philosopher is a fascist, and has a nasty habit of violating sovereignty of nations, human rights abuses, and quasi-fascistic behaviors like censorship and disarmament of civilians.
Ukraine is obviously not a perfect country, the west clearly reaped what it sowed by helping along the ukrainian revolution and coup, but ultimately the people of Ukraine do not deserve this. They wanted freedom, and Russia does not want them to have it. They have been under Moscows thumb for over a century.
Fuck Russia's sphere of influence, what did they do with it in all this time? No wonder a bunch of people don't want to be a part of it, it's not rocket surgery.
You can call it like it is, a western sponsored coup in Ukraine, but how is that even at all surprising with how awful Ukrainian leadership pre 2014 was for the nation.
@@kobeh6185 Well thanks for completely supporting my Point :D
A Shame that youre Wall of Text was auto deleted but it boiled down to "Im pro Vaxx and Im pro Ukraine" anyway, so exactly what I stated about you current thing supporters.
PS: go get another Booster^^
I belive i read a comment in reddit that said "After a while you can hear lazerpig busting out another wine bottle sincr he knew this was going to be a loong shitshow"
Oh you can. Multiple times.
Sure he posted a image of his sink wash board covered in the amount of bottles of wine he had to go through XD
I mean how many bottles did this guy go through in his previous video on him?
@@justindieterich1773 yes. The Answer is yes.
@@SeanOReilly44 IIRC, it was 1 cup of tea, 5 bottles of wine, 1 bottle of Vodka, 1/2 a bottle of whiskey, and a 2-liter bottle of Coca Cola. The man has the patience of a saint and the alcohol tolerance of a Greek god.
1:07:45 "Die painfully". Lira got Uno reversed on.
Never mess with the pig
That debate almost gave me an aneurysm. 💀
Almost? You got lucky.
Can you even call it that. Stalin's show trials were probably more civil than Lira
I feel much, much dumber after watching 50 minutes of this
Bruh, I was close to having mental breakdown due to how dense Lira is
Jesus Christ Put this man in Jail for Treason if he does live in Ukraine
@@j0246 Some people are saying he's actually in Denmark. Would be funny if he was. 😅
“Chat is asking, you’re gay, right?”
There are a laundry list of things you can make fun of lazerpig for, many being valid criticisms. Being gay is not one of them.
Imagine coming in to debate Lazerpig and thinking "chat says you're gay" is a dunk, as if "loud, drunk, cussing, gay Scotsman" isn't his entire brand.
The akward silence after LP casualy responded with "yes" was filled with my laughter.
@@ecyor0 seriously, we love our femboy pig
@@ecyor0 I mean that's kinda awesome actually... How is that a bad thing?
@@kaiserlowaI think the implication here is that Lira is the kind of person who uses “gay” as an insult, and was completely unprepared for someone who uses it as a part of their persona.
You skipped some great moment to call Liara out on his fake love for Ukrainians.
1. When he said he can't speak ukrainian despite living there on and off for 10 years.
2. When he heard a "air raid siren" he said he wanted ukraine to get rid of them cause "they're just going to die anyway. The siren won't make a difference."
That last one... yeaaah.
Clearly he was living there more OFF, than on. Just so happened to holiday there in 2016 for 5 days, then another 5 days in 2021 in crimea or something.
@@Destroyer_V0 I know. I'm amazed lazerpig didn't call him out on that one more. Like oh you care but you don't want them to try and prevent them dying from strikes. Sure thing the fucking liar.
Ten years without learning the language. I hope he knows Russian at least. It's almost impressive
@@angelikaskoroszyn8495 It really is, 10 years without even learning the language is impressive.
@@angelikaskoroszyn8495 he doesn’t know Russian as well.And you doomed in Ukraine if you don’t know Russian/Ukrainian.
This guy (not pig) is in my opinion, the type of person who would gaslight his family into believing his emotional abuse is good for them. This isn’t a debate. It’s a vatnik shouting over someone trying to have a discussion.
Declaring that whoever leaves the chat lost and then kicking the person humiliating you from chat is the most Putin move Lira could come up with.
Maybe that’s why he was arrested.
@@TrinityCore60 It is probably most likely because Ukraine has become an unjust state and has a fascist puppet government.
@@TrinityCore60
And lost all his supporters (save a few zealots)
Sadly, Gonzalo Lira has now, by his own logic, 'left the chat' permanently.
Whatever we might personally feel about how GL, we need to ensure a vigorous and open investigation into the circumstances of his death.
He literally said he had lung cancer - and he was smoking 2 packs a day.
"I'm a pig. Oink bitch.". That was the equivalent of a mike drop.
Rip Mike 2023-2023
@@DerArbeitsloswHaiderIX sorry to correct you guys but its mic this isnt meant as a insult
@@speedman69420 the replier knows that’s why he said rip
@@DerArbeitsloswHaiderIX he is gone but not forgotten
Nah. It is an admission that he is a drunken pig regurgitating Ukrainian fascist propaganda.
Lira: "Everyone will he looking at this broadcast and say 'Wow, this guy doesn't want to answer questions'."
Everyone: "Wow, thank god Lazerpig isn't demeaning himself by taking those questions seriously"
He made a mass effect question tree, not proper prompters for a debate. The fact he thought that this would discredit Lazerpig is fucking comical.
@@cookiecraze1310 It did discredit the pig but you cannott win an argument with a fool....so...erm..go figure
@@drnoahjuvalhararihackableanima he discredited someone by pointing and screaming at the top of his lungs "HE'S EVIL! HE WANTS CIVILIANS TO DIE AND IS A WARMONGER! I (a sex tourist who stayed in Ukraine to exploit it's political situation for money) AM THE ULTIMATE MORALE DECIDER AND SAY THAT EVIL IS NOT IMMEDIATELY ROLLING OVER TO AN INVADING FORCE!". He says that the only morale decision is to allow Russia to win and take over Ukraine (despite most Ukrainians saying they wanted to continue fighting once polled) because that means less people will die. He didn't bring up a single actual point and just asked him to either agree with his lies or be evil.
@@cookiecraze1310 oh look; 2 cheap comments for the price of 1
@@cookiecraze1310 I didn't read past the 1st few lines of simping OK? bye...
That "Bradley's are just lightly armored jeeps" comment aged like fine milk.
Well at least his comments can still age.
@@AnimarchyHistorywe will never know what tree he’d be now.
@@AnimarchyHistoryso, white boy, was the euromaidsn 214 in Ukrajne t a coup? 😅
@@CareFactor00 no its whichever one grows where he is buried :)
@@thecoin5394 a coup is a change of government initiated by a **armed forces**, so no
44:01 “Cannot replenish losses” *Laughs in the sheer instantly that is the American Military-Industrial Complex*
The moment america goes all out on the industry theyd pretty much drown ukraine in shells
@@anadaere6861 POV you asked America for a aid
All I can do is deliver 120 tons of high grade explosives per week
Us military contractors: so you are saying if we produce all this stuff for Ukraine, you are gonna pay us a premium for it and if we max out our production capabilities you will buy ALL the stuff we produce the moment we produce it?"
US: yes we are switching to war economy, so you also dont have to pay as much tax, we will also buy any and all stock you currently have as well as investments to expand your production capabilities and streamline procurement of raw materials to you and provide money to help bolster the materiral pipeline so you dont have to spend on that.
Us Military contractors: idk we do have a lot of current orders alrea-
US: we will out bid them and pay you to do ours first.
Us military contractors: say no more,
@@vixshire3672 per week? More like per minute!
Hahaha…. The United States. The strongest superpower still around. Can’t replenish losses?
Care to remind that guy how people claim the US (clearly alone, who else could it have been?) beat Germany?
Exaggerated or not, that’s something the country is known for.
I like when LazerPig was done with the debate, Gonzalo had his friends join and basically cope again
Done in the sense that Gonzalo told LP to "die painfully" then kicked him from the call
Wait really? ☠️ I stopped watching after he kicked our boy and started promoting his next livestream.
@@pepsitruther67 He called a guy named MOD and Mr New Atlantis, and just started coping
@@finalMadfox I love how he just went back into his echo chamber after leaving for two hours to yell pathetic insults. It’s a fitting end to the story
What, like you're doing now?
Gonzalo ain't just a clown, or the Circus, he is the entire damn comedy industry
And not even funny either. The only funny thing about him is probably the fact that i mention this joke
Don't insult the comedy industry
Nah. Comedy is funny.
@@madensmith7014 touche
@@hourlardnsaver362 fair enough
This has gotten even funnier now that Lira got arrested.
🦀🦀🦀
Here thinking the same thing. Something therapeutic about listening to this and thinking about him being in a cell right now.
@@ladeao1552I’ll bet he’s smoking even more now 😂
@quox3987 Not only arrested but also tortured. Funny what? You LP fanboys really are the biggest propaganda victims on this planet.
It's even better after he got arrested a second time
Gonzalo Lira is a fellow countryman of mine. As a Chilean, i’m embarassed and sorry that we could produce such a devoted Vatnik in Chief.
All nationalities have at least 1 utter crazy man. Well except maybe Andorra but that's only because their population is in the double digits. No need to be ashamed, my friend. And hey, look at it on the bright side... At least you're not russian.
@@thespanishinquisition4078 Andorra has the crackhead migrant outside my local 7/11 who keeps rambling on about ancient alien civilisations.
Lichtenstein maybe?
@@therealgeneralMacArthur I happen to know an absolutist from Lichtenstein, so no dice there. (Absolutists are people who claim we should go back to the late medieval system of government by absolute monarch with feudal inheritance, in summary... If you think that's the craziest bumch around, there's also Ultraabsolutists, I've seen those, you can find them in Portugal, Spain and specially France.)
But good news I think I finally found a country with no NATIVE wackos left alive. (People living there is a different issue tho.)
The Vatican. How did they accomplish this feat? Well there's literally no natives left. Due to Catholic regulations and just how small the country is they're literally 100% migrants. So can't birth any weirdos if you have no births at all!
He's more of an American of Chilean descent
I'm sorry idiots like him speak so loudly. I hope the majority are just quite and suppressed. I hope their a day that corruption is just history. Goodluck out their and if you must choose between morals and life remember surviving is not living and the choice you make is for those you care about. Not yourself.
Laser Pig"Did Cuba and America go to war?"
Lira "They came close in 1962, the question is why?"
Lase Pig"I asked IF they went to war."
Lira"You're avoiding the question"
Sounds like Lira was avoiding the question
''If you can't afford a war, don't have one''???🤔
Ever heard of ''the bay of pigs''??
He was. They didn’t go to war.
@@drnoahjuvalhararihackableanima Not a war, and thank you for your advertisement. :)
it's idiotic answer a questions with another question
Russia: "Ukraine used to be part of russia and there for its justified"
Mongolia: "Give up russia to us as we used to rule you"
Mongolia, when possessed by the spirit of Temujin: *Iron Man riff begins playing* Awesome Loona pic, btw.
@@ScorpionViper1001 The ground starts shaking in the Kremlin. Putin asks, "What the hell is that?!"
He looks out the window to see the Hu roaring by his house, blasting AK-12s they stole from dead Russian Spetsnaz troopers they overran at Kalka River while singing Wolf Totem as loudly as they can manage. As Putin watches, the guards out front are riddled with precise 7.62 rounds and slump over. A rider dismounts, snatches away the guard's rifle and ammunition, and then hops back on her bike and roars away before the rest of the security force can arrive, laughing as shots whizz past her head.
Putin curses and orders armored pursuit. His generals inform him the Mongolians have stolen the fuel. He demands infantry pursuit. His generals inform him the infantry is far too slow to catch the riders. He demands the riders be identified. His generals tell him they must have been Mongolians. He asks why. His generals answer, "Who else would shout 'For the Khan!' in a drive-by?"
@@ladywaffle2210 When did Putin or any Russian official said this conflict is because Ukraine was a part of Russia?
@@attilamarics3374 Every day for the last eight months. Among other choice reasons bordering on fanciful to delusional.
@@kyosokutai Thats not true. I guess you have sources and quotes.
"Yeah, i'm a pig, oink bitch"
You just _cannot_ insult this man. He is immune
Lets not forget about Destiny in this "debate"
Him leaving early made him the true winner, saving him his brain cells
his ending line "well i'm a loser for joining this call" was gold
And lazer pig stayed because he knew he had brain cells to spare
You say that as of Lazerpig wouldn’t have lost the brain cells anyway due to blood alcohol toxicity lol. He didn’t come to win, he came because fuck it
@@ghostdog0424 yea that seams like something like him would do
The alcohol and Scottish spirit in Lazerpig's body is protecting him.
2:10 Provoking Putin into invading Ukraine.
This is the same logic as blaming rape victims for provoking their attacker.
I think that vendiagramm ist just a circle.
I mean. His definition of good and evil is a circle too
wow from a guy who is an advocate of the manosphere.... who will ever know
So, killing over 14000 ethnic Russians in eastern Ukraine since 2014, you wouldn't call that an invitation? You fascist Ukrainians are really not to be taken seriously anymore!
I'm absolutely amazed at how LazerPig managed to stay calm through this bs. The number of times that I wanted to throw my phone at a wall while listening to this is well in the triple digits.
I made it to 3:05 and needed to read comments to cool down. *TH-cam comments* for goodness sake. I don't think I'm going to make it through this one.
well according to lazerpig in his own reaction vid, he realised quite early on what was happening, so just toughed it out, knowing that the longer it went on, the worse Gonzalo looked. he basically waited for gonzo to blow up in frustration, and he did the second lazer was able to steer the convo anywhere near russain war crimes.
@@xerxeskingofking bro waged a war of attrition over video call on a discussion lmao
Hear hear, that clown was infuriating and frustrating to even consider arguing against.
Lazerpig's saintly patience was, for want of a stronger phrase; unbelievable
In this respect GL seems to have done everything right when he triggers you Ukrainian fascists and your fascist friends like Lazerpig like this! Apart from that I can not see any patience, but only that he is a drunken pig, who regurgitates Ukrainian propaganda.
Lira's brain died a couple of years before his body
The chicken in black.
A family of ethnic Russian-Ukrainian refugees stayed in our house for a week while they found housing and jobs.
They checked the news often, worried about their families in Zaporizhzhia.
For a people supposedly targeted by Ukraine, they seemed very, VERY concerned about what was happening back home.
I would be shouting from the rooftops if I were being persecuted by my country, but they spoke of nothing like that. It was clear the Russian shells blasting apart their city was the cause of their flight, not ethnic cleansing.
They are secure and have their own place now, I’m glad I could give up my room to these selfless, generous and wonderful people even for just a week.
chad
@AMechanicalSoul As someone from Russia, id like to add an amendment : Russia is just bs
@AMechanicalSoul Thats not really a rebuke of the Russian talking points thou. We have also jews that say there werent a holocaust. Does that make it true? Its a fallacy what you are doing here. You cna be a Ukranian that live sin these regions also. Deniz is a known liar. Makes a lot of videos squeezing youtube money out. Your points are nonsensical.
Not to mention we have 8 years of news coverage of the Ukranian nazi problem. What happend with that if you are right? We had news coverage of the greek diaspora in that region telling that they are intimidated etc. Its a common problem in Ukraine. I despise pro-ukranians. I look down on you guys. You are a nazi sympathizer that looks for every possible excuse to support them. You would be an SS officier in the 3rd reich.
@AMechanicalSoul This logic is just stupid, let me remind you that cases like this have existed forever: Francisco Franco was galician, what did he do? He suppressed galician culture and Identity, Stalin was georgian etc. Does Zelensky feel Russian? No. Zelensky has been in power for a while now, has he made an attempt to change the language law removing official status of the Russian language in Russian majority regions? No. Zelensky himself is not a Nzi, however the rest of the country(not all of it obviusly) has Nzi ideals,and Zelensky doesn't do nothing about it. The fact that a Nzi is considered a national hero in Ukraine (Stepan Bandera) and has hundreds of statues across the country as well as streets named after him, just look up stepan bandera on google maps.
Also those youtubers are a minority in their territory and want their voices to be heard as they take it on a personal level. Saying that Crimea/Donbass isn't Pro-Russia is bs
@AMechanicalSoul almost all our gov speak rusian and they all didn`t even hide it before 2014. Even right, far-right and the ones that rusia claims as `nazis` organizations mostly are from rusian-speaking regions.
Tankie: WHAT IS 1+1? FIVE OR SEVENTYSIX?
LP: neither. 1+1 equals TWO
Tankie: WRONG IT IS ONE OF THE BEFORE MENTIONED ANSWERS. YOU MUST PICK ONE OR THE OTHER.
LP: But both of them are wrong. The correct answer is two.
i never see a tankie who also publicaly despites communism, it's related to the Patriotic Union, a literal STALINIST party on Chile, who is also anti-feminist, pro-incel, anti-lgbt and fucking loves augusto pinochet.
Gustavo lira is literally one of the most disonance cognitive people i ever heard
Not a tankie, a vatnik I assume
There are four lights!
Imagine calling a vehicle that has more tank kills than pretty much any other vehicle in use "just a jeep"
He's the same guy that says Lazerpig was evil for supporting Ukraine defending its sovereignty. That the deaths of Ukrainians are his fault, and not the Russian invaders.
The chain smoking toad was a joke.
Welcome to the SBU basement comrade Gonzalo
LOL. He did not like the SBU basement.
Yes, there were bioweapons labs in Ukraine. They were established there by the Soviet Union. When the USSR collapsed, one of the things the USA did was help finance the repurposing of those labs and the continued funding of those scientists' paychecks so they wouldn't be tempted to go work for people like... Iran, Iraq, North Korea, China, independent actors...
The USA also helped fund the cleanup of those sites, so places like Ukraine wouldn't suffer the same anthrax outbreaks that happened in Russia. Go look those up for a fun time.
So in the most asinine literallist view of the claim, yes, the USA was funding bioweapons labs in Ukraine. They just happened to be Soviet labs that were no longer in the bioweapons business.
There are also Biolabs with the highest level of securty (BSL 4) in ukraine because, even if people like Lira probably dont belive this also, we just survived a majoir pandemic and scientists all over the world are experimenting with potential dangerous viruses and bacteria to get ahead of the next panedemic. They are often supported finacialy by countries who have a lot of money because the last pandemic caused a big hit on our enconomies. And of course the west or everyone who is not completly stupid is afraid that russia could target one (after they run out of playgrounds, schools and kindergartens to hit) and cause dangerous samples to be exposed into the envoirment.
Out of curiosity what are those labs being used for now?
@@crudeodin0213 I'm guessing researching means to reduce losses in potential BnC attacks?
@@crudeodin0213 They are probably shut down so they dont start a new pandemic with some stupid infuenzia virus if russia shells them "by accident" because the run out of appartment buldings to bomb.
@@crudeodin0213 Like most other bioresearch labs around the world - studying pathogens how they work and to develop cures and vaccines for said pathogens. Nothing but good considering bad actors have tried several times to use bioweapons as a means of terror.
"Moscow supermarkets are certainly better stocked than UK or the Netherlands" can't speak for UK, but as a Russian I can say that this is absolutely false. Lived in Saint Petersburg, second biggest city in Russia, when the war hit we still had food on the shelves, but a lot of things went away/were replaced with more shit versions. The bigger problem was the lack of medicine, it was very hard to get your hands on anything that isn't manufactured in Russia (a large list of things, as it turns out) I moved to Groningen, a relatively small city in the Netherlands, even a small grocery store is fucking PACKED, heating is also not an issue. In the dorm where I'm staying I'd actually prefer to have less of it, because it gets pretty hot at times, that's during the winter btw. Some restaurants add a small charge for the electricity, but when they're transparent about it it's perfectly reasonable imo
Tbh it seems nice to put an electricity charge on there as an explicit thing? Or interesting at least. Is it just adding a further percentage onto your billl basically, like sales tax?
@@tibbygaycat yeah that's what I think as well, I have no problem with getting that additional charge as long as I see what it is beforehand. I'm down to pay it, just don't hide it from me
GL’s claims about food shortages in the UK, Netherlands, etc. are not even desperate cuz they’re so nakedly pathetic. I would not bother with taking any claim he makes seriously. This “debate” is part of a GL vanity project, and because he’s simping for Moscow. He went to Ukraine just to exist there in service of his wanting to be able to use that fact against interlocutors, that not only is he there but he sees it all up close and dangerous-like. And don’t ya know, there are hits out on him, as he claims. He’s a colossally unethical liar whose actions are diametrically opposite his stated beliefs.
Having lived in Kazan from 2014 till about a month before the conflict the majority of supermarkets in Russia were amazingly sad compared to Canada. I can only image what happened when the war started and the sanctions began. I assume it would be like the start of COVID when everyone ran out rushed the places.
@@jb03hf In my experience it was less panic buying food and other stuff, and more panic buying foreign currencies. Anyone with the means to move to a different country would just buy as much as they could and leave.
Other than that, the life came back to at least seeming normal alarmingly quickly. Like a month since the beginning you'd look outside and it's as if nothing even happened.
Wrong wrong wrong, and then died.
What a poetic end to such insufferable dude
The fact that Lila said that the EU and US is losing the economic war, while Greece(part of NATO, EU and one of the first nations to support Ukraine) is still on an economic boom makes me laugh even harder
In total, Greece now owes the EU and IMF roughly 290 billion euros ($330 billion), part of a public debt that has climbed to 180 percent of GDP.
Greece and economic boom are words I never thought I would hear, mf single handedly making the euro worth less by like 5%.
-source:
Trust me bro
Also since Russia’s economy is pitifully small even compared to single countries of the EU
I mean hell I'm a UK citizen
Even with brexit being the worst idea ever (mostly voted on yes by the older population mainly because pretty much every single young person with some kind of thought knew leaving the eu would be a bad idea was either a smaller amount or weren't able to vote) we still are worth more then russia.
Wait, what??? Greece is an economic boom? since when? what happun?
"US and NATO don't produce enough artilery shells"
Romania opening it's third plant:🌝
*Arsenal of Democracy starts charging up.*: Ka....me...ha...me....
War=profit 🤑
@@gregorteply9034 cocaine parties at military contracter CEO mansions in full swing
@@ScorpionViper1001 is it a 70 day focus?
@@ettibbet5493 new continuous focus just dropped
Gonzalo Lira is such an insecure person, interrupting and screaming at anything he doesn't like, blindly in denial.
It was really funny to see his followers be disappointed in him. But still simp for him
Ex-pickup artist, insecurity is their trade.
Not to give him to much credit. But thats essentaly how this debates with "western experts" on russian propaganda media (so all of them) works. They get screamed over if they are trying to make a valid point. Etc. Arte East Track Fake News is a good source if youre interesed how this works.
The persons who are representing the western view are actually also employed by the russian media. Did Lira get prepeared by for this debate by russian propaganda handlers? Maybe. He is using their tactics, and I dont think that is capable of doing that all by him selfes.
And quite a bit of projection, I might add.
A fellow UEF enjoyer
🦀 Lira is gone 🦀
🦀🦀🦀🦀🦀🦀🦀🦞
I wouldn't count on it. The dude's assassination by the SBU was announced a solid year ago. He wasn't dead then :(
@@Dasycottus Pretty much confirmed by everyone, including his family.
i mean i didnt like the guy but cheering for his death? thats a yikes from me
@@DasycottusHe died from medical complications in prison. He was an anti-vaccine person who got long term Covid and pneumonia while in prison.
"I could make some serious socioeconomic changes down here in Australia if I had access to a Nimitz-class aircraft carrier."
Finally, an economic policy I can believe in.
Its like me saying i could change my school system with an m1126 stryker xD, if only gmls or the army would let me buy one hehe
“GET THE BOATS” haha but screw the LNP
I made a list of this guy's presentation and answered each question according to what I know from the top of my head. It was laughably easy.
Slide 1
Q: The Kiev Regime was doing nothing to provoke Putin into invading Ukraine --- Putin’s invasion was groundless.
Correct.
Q: Putin has imperial ambitions and is inherently evil.
Putin indeed has imperial ambitions. Kraut made a pretty good video on this “The Ideology of Putin’s Russia” published on November 1st 2022.
Is he evil? If defined as “the opposite of good”, then yes. He has people murdered on a regular basis. That alone is pretty much all that needs to be said on that matter.
Slide 2
Q: Putin invaded Ukraine because (1):
- Constant shelling of ethnic Russians in the Donbass since 2014, resulting in 16.000 dead.
There were no 16.000 dead. And if it was Putin’s goal to preserve life in the Donbass, conscripting their men and sending them to war with insufficient equipment and training is not a way to show that he cares about their lives.
- Kiev Regime figures calling for ethnic cleansing of all Russians from the Donbass and Ukraine generally.
There was no ethnic cleansing.
- NATO expansion into Ukraine, with the likelihood of nuclear weapons on Russia’s doorstep, was an existential threat to Russia.
NATO cannot expand into a nation. That nation has to apply and be approved by all members. NATO can’t point to a nation and demand they join.
Nukes on Russia’s doorstep would be irrelevant. It’s not the Cuba crisis anymore. Nukes already have global range. If the US wanted to flatten Russia, they could already do so.
NATO is a defensive alliance and cannot be used to go to an offensive war. There was no threat to Russia.
Slide 3
Q: Putin invaded Ukraine because (2):
- Western biological weapons facilities in Ukraine.
Incorrect. There were biological research labs that did research into (possible) pathogens. That is not the same as bioweapon labs. One tries to find out how to neutralize diseases, the other tries to weaponize them, it’s the exact opposite.
- Kiev Regime unwilling to abide by Minks II peace agreement.
As was Russia.
- Kiev Regime about to launch an invasion of the Donbass.
Citation needed.
Slide 4
- The conflict in Ukraine is in fact a proxy war between the US and NATO against Russia
If you squint your eyes and cross your eyes, perhaps you can see something like that. But no. This is a group of nations supporting the liberty of a nation attacked by a larger neighbour.
- The goal of the US and NATO is regime change in Russia, and the physical break-up of the Russian Federation into several smaller countries --- that is, the destruction of the Russian nation.
There are people with NATO nations who would like that to happen. Of those people, there are some in government. However, there are also people who don’t. One example: French president Macron.
It may be surprising, but in a black of nations of hundreds of millions, there are many opinions floating around
Slide 5
Q: The US and NATO, directly as well as through their Zelensky Regime proxy, are winning this war against Russia.
Ukraine is pushing Russia back and has already recaptured well over half of territories occupied by Russia. Does that mean they are winning? Depends on your definition. Most people would say yes, you have decided no due to a different definition of winning
Slide 6
Q: Economically, the US and NATO are losing the war against Russia:
- Sanctions against Russia have backfired.
How?
- The European economy is deindustrializing because of the sanctions against Russia, with high inflation, and a GDP contraction that may be as high as 10% for 2022.
Citation for deindustrializing.
There is indeed high inflation in Europe (including in Russia), but this was already the case prior to the Russian attack in Feb 2022, without that, I’m not convinced this current inflation spike would be there or as bad as it is.
Citation for 10% contraction of GDP over 2022. That’s ridiculous.
- The Russian economy suffered minimal damage, with moderate inflation and only 2,7% GDP contraction.
It suffered damage. Especially in the hard- and software dependent markets. The damage to the overall economy was as minimal as it was due to high energy prices prior to the enactment of sanctions which lead to record profits. These are now largely gone. These record profits were key for the Russian central bank to be able to pay for their sweeping measures to support the economy. I have my doubts that these measures will be able to hold ones the money tap is turned down. We will see.
Slide 7
Q: Diplomatically, the US and NATO are losing the war against Russia:
- The Collective West has become isolated from the rest of the world - while Russia has improved its relations with every other country outside the West.
I have a very hard time believing this. The Middle East, for example, is highly dependent on Ukrainian grain and food oils to feed its populace. I, to put it mildly, have my doubts that the Russian blockades of these vital foodstuffs has improved these nations’ opinions of Russia.
- The rest of the world no longer trusts the West, because of its admission that the Minks II Agreements were to buy time to arm Ukraine.
Which is something that was admitted to from pretty much day 1. I somehow doubt that people would have a hard time disliking nations for helping another one after a piece of it was annexed by a hostile nation.
Also, if it’s keeping to your word you’re worried about, how does Russia’s statements that the military exercises prior to the war in Jan and Feb 2022 were not a setup to invade Ukraine stack up? Because Putin and the rest of his Regime blatantly broke their word there. But then again, they do that so often that it’s expected so not really shocking anymore.
- The rest of the world is turning to China and Russia, away from the West.
Citation needed
Slide 8
Q: Militarily, the US and NATO are losing the war against Russia:
- The conflict has developed into attritional war.
You know what, sure.
- In an attritional war, conquered territory does not matter --- all that matters is annihilating the opposing army’s forces.
No, it’s about the will to keep fighting. Case in point: Vietnam.
- The US and NATO does not have the industrial capacity to replenish Zelensky Regime losses on the Battlefield.
That is a joke, right? The main problem with supplying Ukraine, by a margin so wide it could encircle the earth multiple times over, is political.
- Therefore, prolonging the war will do nothing except destroy the Ukrain(ian) nation and people.
Prolonging the war by not rolling over will indeed result in more death and destruction. However, rolling over will just signal to Russia that what they are doing works. They would just rearm for a few years and try again somewhere else. That’s what they did with Georgia.
Slide 9
Q: Socially, the US and NATO are losing the war against Russia.
- People in the West are suffering --- and protesting.
Define suffering. I’m currently sitting in a slightly colder house with slightly warmer clothing. My fridge is still full, my life has barely changed. If this is what suffering means, I can’t feel too sorry for those damned to hell.
And yes, there are protests. There are always protests. France is part of NATO, after all.
- All governments in the West have the support of less than half their populations.
Which is different from before the start of the war, how? Welcome to democracies: people dislike their governments.
- The only thing maintaining the Western Regimes’ power is the relentless media propaganda and social media control
Riiiiight. That’s what’s going on. Not that they are able to supply lives comfortable enough to not want to.
Also, mentioning “relentless propaganda and social media control” as if Russia does not do that is laughable.
- In Russia, most of the people support the government measures; Putin has +75% approval.
After the aforementioned “relentless propaganda and social media control” and criminalization and assassination of opposition and their leaders, yea, I’m sure it is.
- The main complaint in Russia against Putin is that he is not going hard enough in Ukraine and against NATO.
I don’t know, I don’t really care.
Reading this, several times I stopped and laughed. This is quite funny. Thanks for that:) most of these "questions" are more statements, poor man went into his own battle without planning for it
detail might be wrong but it more right then Gonzalo and he had more then 5 seconds to think about it
With the proxy war talking point, I usually concede and say so what, that doesn't mean the Ukrainian cause isn't righteous.
YES OR NO?!?!
Wrong. We’re moving on.
you, good sir, are very well informed! Loved the concise answers you gave.
This "man" truly tried to "debate" with "Yes or no answers ONLY! Does your mom know you're gay?" questions. Many such cases, sad.
"Im bi"
"So youre gay"
@@robertharris6092 It's great fun to tell people that say things like that "Yes, I'm a transfemme bisexual lesbian" and watch their minds melt. It confuses a few of my fellow gays badly enough that I have to explain it to them, and they know what each of those things are; I'm convinced I have pending manslaughter charges from telling that to people like Lira.
@@ladywaffle2210I’m confused, how can you be bisexual and lesbian at the same time? Isn’t it just bisexual?
I came in with no expectations, and Gonzalo spectacularly failed to meet them.
I feel like he’s a symptom of how cable news has twisted the concept of “debate” into a shouting match where only one person holds the microphone. Sadly, although he’s clearly marinating in that culture, he doesn’t seem to understand the very basics: it only works with a tight timeslot, and it only works when _only one person holds the microphone._
Nah he is a relic of the old Internet Bloodsport days where you just screamed accusations at each other for hours while ppl in chats laughed and fanboyed. Tho even back then he tended to get crushed so im not sure why he still tries that format.
man, Lazerpig is an actual trooper for actually having the patience to go along with the mental gymnastics of this NPC. Also, Gonzalo resorting to what he did at the end just goes to show who actually lost the argument, Lazerping remains undeafeted
well, to be fair, he had alcohol. i imagine the poisonous substance in his bloodstream somewhat cancelled out the crap Gonzalo was spewing
@@tomasmisek5598if that’s the case, did Gonzales have any hope of winning when his opponent was a SCOT?
Yes, I know that isn’t his name. I just don’t want to dignify him by getting it right.
@@TrinityCore60 Or because you yourself have no dignity?
@@fleckenfurz77Nope, just not bothered to get the name of a certified piece of human garbage right. See nothing wrong there.
@@fleckenfurz77LP = winner….the goofy looking chain smoking toad, should’ve rage quit early in the debate.
The whole "why else would the Ukrainian army want nato troops unless they didn't have enough of their own" is kinda a weird argument. If I were fighting a war wouldn't I want to have as many people fighting for me as I possibly could? Of course Ukraine wants NATO troops, more manpower effectively brought to bear on the invader means a shorter war.
The entire point of defence alliance is deterrent. It's increasing force difference so the political calculus for starting a war never goes into "maybe we should".
In any sort of fight overkill is good,you're winning? Someone is offering reinforcements? Send them along! We can do this even faster and more efficiently!!!!
Don't, there's no point, Gonzalo Lira knows as much about warfare as he knows about women, absolutely fucking nothing, which is exactly why he's in Ukraine preying on women who are financially worse off than him. That is assuming he's even in Ukraine anymore.
@@HandleMyBallsTH-cam I think Lazerpig said he was deported some months ago
You have common sense. Good job mate, thank your parents
1:07:42
In the business we call that foreshadowing.
Lol
Even this shortened version is painful to watch. When I was watching it live, I was holding my legs together and wincing constantly. How Lira could have thought at any point this was a good showing, that he was making a fine display, that he was *winning* astounds and confounds me.
All hail the pig.
Gonzalo Lira has the same attitude as a TON and I mean a god damned fuckTON of pseudoscientific nutjobs out there. From "alternate medicine" to "creationism" and "flat earthers" just the whole load of those. Ironically quite a bit of those are actually more respectful. But a solid chunk of those communities debates EXACTLY like this.
Thankfully as a teen I was really deep into debating against them (ah the golden age of evolutionism vs creationism... remember those days when the most serious internet slapfight was between Bill Nye and some weirdo from a tourist trap in texas? Man... I miss those. I really do.) So I have a lot of resilience to undiluted bollocks of this kind. But man even then, I think GL might be one of the most openly disrespectful on the bunch. I mean their tactics were the same but at least they TRIED to keep up the facade of being better than you by being somewhat creative with their adhominems and keeping up a somewhat slimy personna. GL instead thinks he's "badass" by being openly a massive cock.
And there's a joke there about Lazerpig and beating massive cocks I'm too classy to mame... Hah no I'm not, I'm an edgy bitch and I'd usually not mind assholes like GL, but god damn at least try not to use the moral superiority argument. Because that argument is incompatible with openly acting like a twat. I don't use it, that's why I can afford to act like a cunt online!
I was listening to the "discussion" in my truck leaving work, and I had to turn it off after about 25 minutes. It was making me violent. I've never heard such blatant lying by someone utterly refusing to even acknowledge the facts that are out in the open.
First time watching coach red pill? He was always an asshole.
@@TheWeedGrinder I'd never heard of him until Lazerpig did the commentary video on Liro's roundtable, and he didn't seem like an asshole then, just kinda ignorant.
@@adioamigo22 I agree, it is incredible the pile of garbage and ridiculous lies that Lazerpig repeated. But the most pathetic thing was when he confessed to being gay. Nothing more can be expected from a progressive communist.
The point at which Gonzo stops even trying to be a volunteer RT spokesperson and just starts calling Lazer Pig names was really the entire point of this circus. He doesn't care about proving any point, he's just wants to attack someone so he can feel better about himself.
What really hurt to watch was Gonzalo cry crocodile tears for the young men dieing in this war then like... 5 seconds later he's insulting lazerpig and preoccupied with his chat. He doesn't give a single shit for the russians or Ukrainians fighting and dieing in this war. Man even had the audacity to say "oh woe is me, I had to start smoking again because this war is so stressful".
Lazerpigs level of patience is amazing and I have so much respect for the guy because of it.
@@joshuarubenstein2298 just watch his video from february 26 when he is still in kiev being the happiest man on earth about the invasion saying that ukraine "fucked around and found out" . I ve seen many things from him,he literally hates ukraine. I dont know why or how but he hates ukraine more than hardcore russians do.
EMOTIONAL DAMAGE...
@@baronvonlimbourgh1716 Hang on...did sir bellendsky just strike his own people in Dnipro with an anti aircraft rocket?? 🤡🤡
@@joshuarubenstein2298 Hang on...did sir bellendsky just strike his own people in Dnipro with an anti aircraft rocket?? 🤡🤡
My personal favourites
"Is there food in Moscow? "
"The german industry is collapsing"
"Im scottish"
"What kind of tree would you be? "
Don't forget the laughing hysterically bit.
Timestamp for the tree question?
It's around 20 minutes in.
Y'all are forgetting the best part of the 'debate':
"Oink bitch"
The tree question just about killed me
I love how Mr Gorgonzola claims to have the deepest insights into military matters while the only role he could effectively play in a military would be as a counterweight to a bridge laying vehicle
Lazerpig on the other hand would not be a counterweight but a fabulous counterweight with the included function to turn inserted alcohol into karaoke
"Is invited to a debate"
"The rival only put on the table true/false, yes/no questions"
"Try to debate those questions, in a debate"
*No, this isn't how you're supposed to play the game*
It's literally like saying "have you stopped molesting cats in your basement"? And then saying you can only say yes or no
"You're not going to interrupt me?"
"No."
"Alright, then how does the-"
*Gonzalo almost immediately begins interrupting*
Yeaaah. It's painful just how little gonzalo actually listens to laserpig.
"So that was a lie"
"Define evil"
"The opposite of good"
"Define good"
"The opposite of evil"
dictionaries be like when you search for an obscure word
"rebomdolism, the act of rembondom" ah yes, very insightful
Except if you go to the entry for "rembondom" you'd figure out what it means.
@@phoenixmarktwo "An action undertaken during rebomdolism"
@@TheSheaim Rembondom and rebomdolism aren't even a real words, man. It's been nine months since I commented this.
Adding this seconds after I made the reply... man I'm slow on the uptake sometimes. Take my like, your cleverness was beyond me.
@@phoenixmarktwo not mine. This is a paraphrase of Lem's Sepulki/Sepulkaria/Sepuling.
Go read The Star Diaries by Stanisław Lem, Sepulki is but one nugget of gold his works are.
>Post Mortem
lmao, even
Having watched about half of the vid, being Ukrainian, I may have received irreparable brain damage. Being also an economist, I am having fits of uncontrollable rage wrt Lira's "economic" points. And this Australian man had to watch this more than once to make a video. I sincerely appreciate what you are doing, but please think of your mental health. Lira is not worth it.
Well said… it truly was painful to watch 🤯
Дякую Богу, що Лазерна Свиня на нашій стороні!
@@_Tumbl4_ та не кажи, боротись проти стоїчного гомоеротизму на підпитку було б дуже важко
@@yaroslavchechel6116 ходять чутки що його печінка настільки міцна що з неї роблять лобові плити для т-72
Thank god I wasn’t the only one foaming at the mouth when he mentioned any economic points. They were either total bullshit, taken out of context or outdated. GDP does not matter when looking at a nation that had to go full national production to make up for the loss of almost everything they traded for, not to mention they inflate this by only looking at the urban areas of Russia, not the ones drained of population to feed the war machine and paying those areas remaining residents with surplus junk and instead of money (they are running out of cash in Russia like it’s insane to say they are doing well economically when most banks are down to their emergency reserves of physical money outside of major cities)
I'd like to add that Gonzalo also went into the comments of that episode of the rountable and actively removed comments that were taking anything other than his side. Like there were people who were subscribed to him saying he handled the debate like shit and they got silenced too. The absolute state of Gonzo is incredible and it baffles me that these kind of people exist and take themselves seriously.
Is anyone surprised? Dude made a _PowerPoint presentation_ for a *debate*, where you can choose between being an idiot or a jerk.
@@vitaliitomas8121 I still can’t believe he did that, I’ve never watched him (nor do I intend to), so I don’t know if he normally does that, but holy shit how much of a pussy do you have to be to do that?
@@evilemuempire9550 tbh, after section of defining evil and good, I was not surprised by anything he did.
LP:"Define evil"
GL:"The opposite of good"
LP:"Define good"
GL:"The opposite of evil"
He doesn't need any power source, he can power countries on his circular motion.
I love how his argument and Cuban missile crisis analogy is basically, the US should have invaded Cuba before Russia even seriously considered putting nukes there.
Ya. Thanks for +1’ing Cheney Doctrine, GL.
@@PaulAngileri Neocons are doves compared to Lira
Yeah cause that'd be a totally justifiable invasion with utter destruction done to civilians who'd be displaced and dismantled...
Though in that case at least the US wouldn't deliberately target residential areas.
@@richardarriaga6271i readed " necrons". I AM playing to much warhammer 40k
@@samfire3067 Necrons would also be preferable.
At least they're honest about their goals.
“Therefore evil is a duck”
Lmfao
"If you're a country that nationalized McDOnalds, you fucked up."
-Animarchy spittin' facts 2023
The amount of side material this shitshow created is almost equal to the debate itself. I hereby propose naming the day as Lazerpig day so can celebrate it every year.
The power of big Macs
I would, without any questions, celebrate this day going forward. It is fucking glorious! 😂
Hang on...did sir bellendsky just strike his own people in Dnipro with an anti aircraft rocket?? 🤡🤡
I really feel like I'm not much in a position to talk about the Russian economy, but is it suspect that the Russian Ruble has gone from 0.0182 USD in late July of 2022 at its price peak to 0.0135 USD in late December of the same year? Please, keep in mind that all of this was _after_ the Russian government artificially inflated the currency's price with its extreme interest rates.
Can someone notify me of something I don't apparently know?
@@mekingtiger9095 ''why are you engaging in propaganda for a regime that sent an anti aircraft missile that missed it's target by 160 degrees AND LANDED ON 2 POLISH farmers whose boss just happened to be a legend and one of the 33% of Poles who aren't racist towards Russia?? Even Potatoe Joe Called out Zelensky's narative that it was a Ru. missile that was responsible!!!
LazerPig basically dangled the featherless biped chicken, Gonzalo before the internet and said: "BEHOLD! AN IDIOT!"
The implication that gonzalo is in any way shape or form related to plato is unacceptable but i think calling lazerpig the Diogenes of historians is unfathomably based
I think we the people watching are supposed to be Plato in this and Gonzalo the plucked chicken. Lazer of course is Diogenes
@@Wfalen that's a better stance
Is that a quote from LP's after thoughts on this shit show? cos it damn well should be...
@@PeachDragon_ Yes my intention is to make Gonzalo the plucked, featherless biped.
Meanwhile Lazerpig is like. "Fuck off, you're standing in my mud."
gotta love it, when every single answer is:
"I have proof, but no I won't show it"
"I have contacts, but no, I won't tell you who they are"
"there's been so many videos, but I won't link you one"
I feel my brain starting to melt. And I live by the fucking arctic circle.
Its the same type of conspiracy theory anyone who debates against pseudoscientists knows all too well.
"I can't show you that piece of evidence because its confidential."
"I can't tell you who proved this to me or how because THEY(tm) will go after them."
"I can't give you that proof because THEY(tm) erased all records."
Pull enough strings and they're literally claiming their preferred secret cabal has somehow managed to get the entire scientific community to work for them, in all countries, since the middle ages, and has kept a fleet completely blocking off all travel near the south pole, while fabricating evidence of such travel, and australia doesn't exist and instead all australians are from a movie set in the sahara. No I'm not kidding some flat earthers claim that. They also claim the moon is a lamp...
If we could get his brain to mine bitcoin with same energy he uses to do these mental gymnastics then the market would crash due to inflation
this fucking guy actually said the UNITED STATES doesn't have INDUSTRIAL CAPACITY FOR ARMS PRODUCTION!?!?!??!?!?!
Bruh Texas has more guns than the entire world 😂
I’m pretty sure weapons are almost the only thing we still manufacture any more….
LP is a saint for not even raising his voice through all this.
EXCEPT for his hysterical laugh, which was epic.
He did say ducks are evil too, something I'm glad we as a society can finally talk about.
I wonder how one can be an atheist while witnessing such angel like patience.
@@Randomstuffs261 when I cook a duck and eat it... all I can think about is how I am doing the world a favor...
@@adam346 🎖Here is a medal for your valiant service
As for the Zelensky wanting nukes, what he said was something to the effect of " we made a deal to give up our nukes and not have any if Russia didn't invade, since they've invaded we don't have to abide by that deal anymore"
Agreements aren’t worth the paper the signatories scribbled on unless the signatories actually follow through on those agreements. Since Russia chose to invade Ukraine, Ukraine has no obligations to commit to the agreement they came to with the Russian federation at the end of the USSR and the Cold War.
Basically what I’m saying is, I agree 👍
Ukraine having nukes would be a cuban missile crisis situation and not even resident bidens handlers would be foolish enough to agree to this. It's perfectly understandable why a country like Ukraine would desire them as they have proven to be a perfect deterrent for larger imperialist nations though.
More to the point, if Ukraine hadn't given up it's nuclear capabilities, this war would never have happened. Can't pull this shit on a nuclear power. While they almost certainly could not have afforded to keep it's nuclear arsenal intact, they should have at least gotten a mutual defense pact out of the deal, rather than just pinky swears that no-one would threaten them in the future.
I guess we can't really fault them though. While Russia's fall back into authoritarianism was predictable, Ukraine freeing itself from Russia in such a dramatic fashion wasn't. So the idea that such a treaty would ever be invoked would be ludicrous back in 1991.
@Nikolaievich9837 Lmao
An unfortunate obstacle in the way of "Just get rid of all the nukes!" arguments is that they do make it much less likely you'll be invaded or have your territory stolen.
I wish I could send Lazer Pig a nice bottle of cab.
And maybe some hugs
And some jugs of moonshine
You can donate, I think.
@@ArcturusOTE ugh moonshine is GOAT
You probably can
OMFG... I've had more coherent debates with creationists and flat earthers. Mad respect for Lazerpig for sitting through this insanity.
Never heard of Gonzalo Lira before. Don't know anything about him. Based on what I've seen here, LazerPig is a worlds better historian and far more constructive person in a debate. Notice how Gonzalo attacked LazerPig personally, but LazerPig attacked Gonzalo's ideas. I love watching things like this.
Edit: I'm halfway through this and Gonzalo just identified himself as a "conservative". The quotations are important because he isn't an actual conservative. He's an extremist. I just hope people know the difference. Real conservatives don't act, or think, like this.
I get why conservatives would pull a "no true scotsman" here, because I would probably if I were conservative, but you don't really get to chose who identifies with you in the same ideological.
There are plenty of people like him, who view them cons. Doesn't mean that all cons. are like him, but the same the left can't really escape that it has brain dead tankies, cons are punish with guys like him.
@@Nonsense010688 That’s exactly what I’m trying to point out. Perhaps I could’ve worded it more clearly, but my overall point was that not all people who identify themselves as “conservative” agree with him. Even I hesitate to identify myself as conservative simply because I don’t conform to the conservative stereotype. I’m pro choice, pro LGBTQ+, and anti racist. But I’m also pro 2nd Amendment. In other words, I’m a conservative who draws heavily on libertarian principles.
@@PanzerWeeb3305 you are what most people (including me) are "a mixed bag" ;)
By now most conservatives are like that.
@@PanzerWeeb3305 Conservatism run counter to prgressivism, so your opinions on being pro-choice, pro-lgbtq+ and anti-racist (assuming you mean pro-civil rights, which you would have to be in order to be anti-racist) are definitionally progressive positions, as they involve the purposeful change of the status quo, or "progress" rather than the conserving of the status quo. I have no idea if you hold other conservative ideas, but in those cases they are certainly not.
Further, despite American "libertarians" calling themselves "libertarians" they generally do not actually advocate for libertarian policies, rather they just argue for what is essentially full on hyper capitalism. While in their minds they view this as being "liberty" because it allows companies to do whatever they want, in practical terms hypercapitalism just results in the loss of liberty for anyone not of the capital owning class. So in practical results, they are less "libertarian" and more "rich people are awesome, they should control everything." Traditional Libertarianism is a socialist ideology that believes in low levels of restrictions on liberty and radical democracy, as they focus more on individual, personal rights rather than the "right" of the few to exploit the many.
Further, while American Liberals often are very much for gun legislation, they are usually moderate-right leaning soft conservatives that advocate for moderate personal freedom, but are very pro-capitalism. They are centrists who often lean a little left personally, but politically advocate for a slightly right-leaning policy as they focus heavily on slow, incremental changes that do not upset the status quo. Left-Libertarians are divided on gun ownership, and you can actually find a lot of Socialist of Communist gun groups. Being divided on something is a really normal position for libertarians, as they advocate for democracy rather than dogmatism.
Sorry for the long response, I just found your comment odd, as I am not sure you actually are conservative, but rather have just bought into the false dichotomy that the current moderate right and extreme right parties have created. You might find that, in all actuality, you have far more in common with leftism then you think, as long as you don't listen to conservative talking heads about what "leftism" is, as they perpetually lie about every aspect of it on purpose.