I don't disagree that the choices here are good bang for the buck but for cheapest, I'd honestly just grab a Katana Artist combo and call it a day. I've gigged with the first generation combo and there's really nothing it can't do and it has great effects built in.
Yea, also used some time my Katana 50 and kills it honestly, would prefer the newer Katana 100/212, but my way to go for small gig rig is the SC20h plus JVMC212 cab, but thats way more expensive haha.
Was just about to comment that suggestion. Katana artist sounds great regardless of the tone choice, loaded with functionality a Gig’ing musician would LOVE to have.
Cabs are in fact quite important, that's why whenever I find an old Crate Blue Voodoo cab I snatch it up, super great, and super affordable on the used market. Pretty sure it came with v30s or Eminence Modeling 12s. It was good enough for Marty Friedman on Rust in Peace, so it's good enough for me. The heads are great too.
@@guardsmansteven4128 You can get cabs that are built a lot better than the HB stuff, for around the same price. Just gotta have patience and do your research
Great sounding cabs, one of the worst sounding heads ever. People still swear they were great but I have never been able to get anything good out of them.
Crate got a bad name but people don't realize in the 90s they were made in Missouri. The cabs had eminence speakers made in Kentucky and they sound great. I still have my blue voodoo 120 with its respective 4X12 and it sounds killer. Back in early 2000s my friends would play on my amp and tell me how badass it sounded, then they proceeded to buy one but the new ones were made in China. Not the same amps boys.
That Epiphone Les Paul costs more than the entire rig I gigged with for 5+ years. Squier Classic Vibe Telecaster ($299 at the time), Vox Pathfinder 15R ($149), Digitech Bad Monkey ($49) and a Mooer Shimverb ($45). Played small clubs and bars with that setup for years.
I’ve used a ‘91 Peavey Classic-50 4x10 since 2005. It weighs 4,000 lbs & it’s time to retire-it to the studio … great-amp though. The smaller heads & cabs today are a godsend, but the choices are overwhelming. This was a huge help, gents. Thank you & happy new year! P.S. Exactly … Boss Pedals worked for Prince & Steve Vai. Gear-snobs are usually mediocre-players, I’ve found.
Having done lots of gigs in cruddy bars, this setup is way WAY better than what most bands go with, it's absolutely amazing!! this has the potential for not only gigs but also practicing and home recording
Mini amps today sure are incredible for the price. What we would have done to have little beasts like those 10-15 years ago (that weren't just the Tiny Terror or HT-5)
it's funny for me to watch gearheads try and pick out "cheap" equipment. Admittedly the total being under 2k for a whole rig isn't bad. But I've played gigs with a combo amp and 0 pedals. Not really going to impress anybody with your gear but it works. I also would say, in the kind of setting they are describing, that a cab is not the end of your sound at all. Especially since they're talking about smaller cabs being miked and all, now you're being affected by mic placement, the mic itself, whatever the sound guy is doing on the board (if it isn't your own guy), and the whole mains and the room and all that. But the cab would be the last bit you have direct control over probably. I've also played plenty of gigs where we were outdoors with very little sound system to speak of, or just plain not enough channels on the board for our setup, so we've had to decide between things like having enough vocal or drum mics or just cranking the amps or whatever.
My main gigging amp for well over 5 years was a Fender Mustang III modelling combo. Admittedly it looked dumb next to all the half stacks people would inevitably show up with but it sounded great and got the job done.
8 years ago I paid less than 200 bucks for my gig rig. Bought a used red stripe bandit for 65 bucks and an American peavey predator for 115 and someone nodded it and put fender staggered locking tuners on it. So yeah this isn’t nearly the cheapest you can get away with lol
Get a Dean bass for around 200 the TC electronic tuner and a Behringer V-Tone Bass BDI21 preamp to plug in the microphone cable. Cheapest rig for a gig.
Yes the cab is so much more important than most people think. I parted my current rig together over time and saved changing the cab for last and honestly wish I would have changed it first.
Great video fun to watch but... I'm thinking (only because mine is) ... you could find a gigable Rig at 1/2 the price. When you mic the amp ya just don't need much anymore. (a 15 watt combo amp will do the job) just saying ..This is my opinion anyway
I've been following Fluff for years, but never played guitar. About a year ago I finally picked one up, and just as start to think about getting my first pedals, Fluff loads up this video. I think this is proof that I am the main character of the universe. Thank you very much for reading.
I agree on the Epiphone...I played an Epi SG in store and it was too good and too cheap not to take home. Don't know what they changed...but it's good! I own lots of high end guitars and still love this thing.
I love what you guys did here. Agree with Ben on the delay. Great amp choice in the EVH 5150, can't ever go wrong with one of those. Don't love the guitars but they're solid. Can't argue with the outcome: the tone is awesome. Great video!
I still do the rock/metal/punk gig with 100w heads because they are barely breathing at stage volume...and there is less noise and feedback overall. I have a loud drummer that makes 100w solid state amps inaudible, and small wattage tube amps push so hard they become unusable and thin. It all depends on your gigging situation for sure. When I play with my church gigs is where low wattage is king.
Good job guys. Y’all covered everything guitarists are interested in in a concise video and spoke to people who may not play professionally but just want that rock tone.
Honestly I was expecting a Boss Katana 50 or something for the amp choice. Kinda nice to see something different. That said, I would go with an Invective MH over the 5150 LBX, as it's only a little more expensive and comes with the noise gate and boost built in. Not to mention it has a much better clean. Also, as someone whose boost pedal of choice is an MWK Crissaegrim, of which only 11 have been made to my knowledge, I feel attacked by some of your comments lol
I'd actually argue that the 6505 MH is a better choice because it's both cheaper and it still cuts out a pedal from the rig since it comes with reverb. The Invective cuts out the gate, but I think the savings are offset by the cost increase. The clean channel on the 6505 isn't nearly as good as the Invective, but it's still fine on the highest wattage setting and it becomes actually good if you put the jj low gain tubes in it (which I highly recommend doing since the gain maxes out around 4 or 5 with the stock tubes).
I'm in a country rock band and my rigs range from a vintage Marshall jcm800 2203, orange rockerverb 50 to a Magnatone Super 15 with Gibson guitars. (61 jr and new Les Paul Traditional. That lil evh lunch box is calling my name. Dammit that was great. I'm not your normal country player. That's why guitars have knobbies. Great video. I stopped giggin with 4x12s years ago and honestly I never get my Super 15 above 2 at gigs and thats with a 1x12 Magnatone cab. I've gigged with my Marshall class 5 with no mic even.
Sometimes when youtubers get together they come off slightly awkward....these two have some good chemistry going on. I like them both individually, Ben is hilarious, and Bruce just seems like a really nice cool dude. But this is a good Duo...please do more!
Iv'e got the LP studio with the coil splitting and it's a great guitar! I have 3 different Epi's , an SG , LP and the 58' Korina Explorer. All are great and the QC was excellent!
I agree that a single 12" and 212" is totally gigable. The guitarists in my band use an EVH 50 watt with a 212 and a Mesa 50 watt with a 212 and they have no problem keeping up with my 1350 watt bass head, going through a 4x10 cabinet. On smaller shows, we each drop down to a single 12" and are all 3 still loud enough to keep up with our drummer.......who beats the drums like he's trying to kill them.
Just a FYI for anyone out there, not criticism of the video. The TC electronic polytune 3 has a buffer and true bypass mode, the PT3 has a strobe mode that is +/- .02 cents accuracy. Also has an always on display option. Plus ton of other options. I own two polytune 3. Full size and mini, I use them for gigs, and setting up guitars. The polytune in my opinion is one of the best tuners on the market. Only other that I say may be better would be a sonic stomp reasearch strobe tuner.
Would have gone with a boss katana as they offer so much and sound really good when dialed in, or something like the headrush mx5 for the versatility. Guiter I would have gone with something like a schecter or Jackson and with a little fret work that dead simple... Bam budget rig
Nice video. The next episode should be the lightest rig for a gig. With all the cabinet sims, power pedals or small heads, and lighter cabinets you can easily cut the weight way down without impacting volume and sound.
It depends on the genre, but the dv mark stuff it's so light that once I almost lost my balance because i put a lot of force into lifting the amp (since it looked like it had a normal weight) it was a great surprise
I have the LBX III-S and I like having the green channel as a pedal platform for clean and classic rock while using the red channel for the heavy and thrash stuff.
Guys, you see how there are 4 plugs on the ns-2? Have you ever used them? If you actually hook it up right its as good as the sentury. Im a high gain metal guy and it is amazingly tight.
For 100 more you could also get the 6505 mh, 5 extra tube watts with a good clean and built in reverb. With that reverb ben could get the sauce he craves as well saving a bit of money in terms of pedals, and damn near identical gain tones. Edit: forgot about this, but it also the tube life indicator that tells you if the power tubes are still good or if they need replaced
Hey Fluff and Uncle Ben , although it’s a fun video you guys made , I Love the humor. I do have a couple of issues with your picks , first of all the guitars , a 700 and 900 dollar guitar is in no way the best pricepoint you could have found , any mid prices ibanez , Chapman , schecter , squire would have done the trick much better , the amps I can’t fault exept maybe the fact that a combo would have been a better pick because you didn’t need to buy a external cab
Total cost listed on screen 1900 dollars. I use an FM3, which was around 1200 new from Fractals website with tax. A nice powered speaker like a CP12 can be had for 650 ish dollars with tax, or you could go cheap with a Headrush if you think they're good enough. that's 1850, so very similar price and the versatility of the FM3 is incredible and includes gates and reverbs and many other effect options.
******* I wish Fluff would start his own "Rig Rundown" interview/local band gear type vids. Travel around to local shows, show off some local bands, backstage etc. Local bands get their name out, plus Fluff can just chill, and do what he does best!
One thing that may be an interesting contender for the pedals is the TC plethora X5, it's ~$400 but much more bang for the buck. It includes a good chunk of all toneprint pedals
Really identify with the whole not cheaping out on the guitar cab. My realization came when my band opened up for a band that was a bit more established and the guitarists rig was a Gibson Les Paul custom into a duel rectifier then plugged the whole expensive as hell rig into a berhinger 4X12. His tone didn't sound much different from mine as we were using the exact same cab, and my rig was a poor man's rig (pawn shop Ibanez with guitar fetish pickups, into a peavey valveking). I sold that thing not too long after and bought something far better
The difference between a100 watt amp vs.a 50 watt amp at full volume is only 3dbs. You'd would've been thinking a lot more but it's not. So yes, you can use a 50 watter with no problem. Great video for the kids and beginners. Thanks Ben and Fluff.🎸🎸🎸🎸👍
I have an Orange Micro Dark, and it’s a cool amp with great sound Clean & dirty sounds (with the amp & with pedals) I use it more than the other amps I own
Should've just gone with an all EVH rig. Can't go wrong with a Wolfgang guitar. I suspect you guys didn't want to pick an all EVH rig with the amp, cab and guitar or possibly Sweetwater is out of EVH Standard guitars at the moment? Maybe that would've seemed too much like an ad for the EVH brand but like I said you can't go wrong with the EVH stuff.
or because all EVH guitars have a floyd rose, and it’s a cheaper floyd rose. Hard tails are better for drop tunings, especially if your changing it on the fly. Btw I’m not trying to sound mean, just saying. 😊
@@ravendemo4980 It’s a damn shame they quit offering hard tail EVH models. I would love a hard tail Wolfgang. I’m still kicking myself for not buying one a few years ago.
@@charlesbolton8471 Oh I know, I feel ya. I love the look and the legacy of the Wolfgangs, and I really want one. But I’m always turned off by the floyd. 😒 That’s why Reverb is a thing I guess, lol.
@@ravendemo4980 The EVH floyd rose units sit flush on top of the body not floating (just like the PRS they picked out) therefore eliminating many of the issues present with cheap Floyds and because it sits flush on the body you can pretty easily do drop tunings too. Yes, you need the Allen wrench to lock/unlock but it's not a big deal. I've never had an issue before. What's quicker than a D-tuna at dropping from E to D and back again? I get why people are hesitant to get a floating Floyd Rose guitar especially on an affordable guitar. They can be a real pain in the butt sometimes however it's totally different with the EVH setup. If you like the Wolfgang then get a Wolfgang. The floyd rose thing is simply not an issue like it can be on other guitars.
I'm like 2 hours from you guys right now. Also, should've went with the Orange Rocker 15 over the EVH just because it has 2 channels. I think it was $650 when I bought it. The band I was in played everything from Fleetwood Mac and Tom Petty to Metallica and Van Halen with that thing. My pedalboard is just a dyna comp, TC Spark through the loop for a lead volume boost, EHX silencer, and a NuX Atlantic delay & reverb and for a long time my main guitar was a used Samick LP that I paid $200 for. We were one of the best cover bands in the whole state. You don't need expensive stuff to gig. Just do it!! 15 watts is plenty loud enough to drown out my super loud, heavy-handed drummer. I can't even turn it up halfway or it's too loud....I'm also running through an Orange PPC2x12 which is...just amazing. So I'm sure that helps. That part of my rig is the most expensive piece. Still fits in my JNCOs but kinda sucks because it weighs 78 friggin pounds
This is cute (actually pretty great video) Now for a real budget- clean amp and drive pedals which is more convenient for live use: Same guitar, though I'd go for my favorite PRS SE 245 for the same price. Bugera V22 tube amp - 439$ Line 6 HX Effects - 699$ On amp + cab you saved 598 (cheapest head and cab) - 439 = 159$ On pedals you saved 1120 - 699 = 421$ You saved 580$ and now you have a 22W tube amp and a high level multi effects unit that would give you all of the effects you need + great for live use.
Decibels add in a log scale, which makes a 2x12 cabinet only 10% louder than a 1x12, and a 4x12 less than 20% louder than a 2x12. BUT to keep the same volume levels on each speaker you will need to increase output on the amp a lot to drive a 4x12 to be 20% louder than a 2x12, and a 2x12 to a 1x12. Basically you need 2x the amp output to increase 10% on dbs. If its volume you are looking for, go for a 1x12 high output.
While these guys are both brilliant and I’ve learned tons from them, I can’t say I agree with this being the cheapest gig rig at Sweetwater, nor the most reliable. I’m around Fluff’s age (43), and I too have blown through tens of thousands of dollars owning expensive boutique guitars, amps & cabs. I stopped doing that about 5 years ago and have lost nothing tone-wise in the process. While the rig they picked out is truly awesome, IMHO, one of the cheapest giggable analog rigs would be an EVH 5150 Overdrive Pedal, an EHX 44 Magnum, the same pedals, same guitar as in the video and a Fender Hot Rod Deluxe ext. cab. That would bring the total down to $1475.00 with a couple advantages to boot. You can run the 44 Magnum in Bright mode, so when you switch off the 5150 pedal, you have a true clean sound. Additionally, this rig has no tubes to fail you at the worst possible time, and the entire rig would fit on a small pedal board with only 2 external cables instead of 4.
Nice vid! You definitely dont need a big rig to gig (haha), I prefer the Marshall DSL20hr with a 2x12 Cab, like a MX212 as for an affordable setup (I personally use the SC20h plus JVMC212 cab with different speakers to mic them and mix them). But great rig there with the 5150! Love it!
@@MercilessGuitar151 I dont know, i think its cheap enough for someone who wants to do this professionally like mentioned in the video. Compared to amps that are thousands, this isnt too bad.
The best deal on a guitar is the black Guild Bluesbird (List $1,270, but showing up for $450-$500!). Incredible specs, with only recommendation, change out the 3-way pickup switch for genuine Switchcraft 3-way (shorter length). As far as amps, US Designed and Built Crates!
I love Ben’s sense of humor. Dry and sarcastic. Watching y’all together was very entertaining. Y’all should do more collabs together
Challenge accepted
@@BenEller challenge accepted? What kind of “collars” can we expect? 👀
@@juniorunbrokensoul7610 I feel like Ben Eller is a popped collar guy and Fluff is a freak and goes for dog collars. Just a guess though.
Collabs guys. Auto correct strikes again.
I'm digging these collabs with Uncle Ben and Fluff at Sweetwater!! These 2 are great together. 🤘😎
I don't disagree that the choices here are good bang for the buck but for cheapest, I'd honestly just grab a Katana Artist combo and call it a day. I've gigged with the first generation combo and there's really nothing it can't do and it has great effects built in.
Yea, also used some time my Katana 50 and kills it honestly, would prefer the newer Katana 100/212, but my way to go for small gig rig is the SC20h plus JVMC212 cab, but thats way more expensive haha.
Was just about to comment that suggestion.
Katana artist sounds great regardless of the tone choice, loaded with functionality a Gig’ing musician would LOVE to have.
Name a more iconic couple.
Abbott and Costello. For no apparent reason
Dr Jekyll and Mr Hyde
I'm all the way here for the Fluff and Uncle Ben Show.
Dead and Lovely
Better love story than twilight
Cabs are in fact quite important, that's why whenever I find an old Crate Blue Voodoo cab I snatch it up, super great, and super affordable on the used market. Pretty sure it came with v30s or Eminence Modeling 12s. It was good enough for Marty Friedman on Rust in Peace, so it's good enough for me. The heads are great too.
Best thing Crate ever made. Toured with the head for a couple years and it never let me down.
Just get a Harley Benton set
@@guardsmansteven4128 You can get cabs that are built a lot better than the HB stuff, for around the same price. Just gotta have patience and do your research
Great sounding cabs, one of the worst sounding heads ever. People still swear they were great but I have never been able to get anything good out of them.
Crate got a bad name but people don't realize in the 90s they were made in Missouri. The cabs had eminence speakers made in Kentucky and they sound great. I still have my blue voodoo 120 with its respective 4X12 and it sounds killer. Back in early 2000s my friends would play on my amp and tell me how badass it sounded, then they proceeded to buy one but the new ones were made in China. Not the same amps boys.
This reminded me of the Andertons Sound Like series that I miss so much, would love to see more stuff like this 🤘🏻
That Epiphone Les Paul costs more than the entire rig I gigged with for 5+ years. Squier Classic Vibe Telecaster ($299 at the time), Vox Pathfinder 15R ($149), Digitech Bad Monkey ($49) and a Mooer Shimverb ($45). Played small clubs and bars with that setup for years.
Love seeing the combined forces of Fluff & Ben, used to watch Ben’s ‘This is why you suck at guitar’ series a ton!
Guess you got better at guitar and don’t need to watch them anymore huh?
Thanks buddy ;)
I'm really diggin' Dad and Uncle Ben working together.
Is this the proverbial Step Dad Ben is always talking about?
I’ve used a ‘91 Peavey Classic-50 4x10 since 2005. It weighs 4,000 lbs & it’s time to retire-it to the studio … great-amp though.
The smaller heads & cabs today are a godsend, but the choices are overwhelming. This was a huge help, gents. Thank you & happy new year!
P.S. Exactly … Boss Pedals worked for Prince & Steve Vai. Gear-snobs are usually mediocre-players, I’ve found.
The cab definitely matters. I will even swap out speaker types to get different sounds....it can change an amp so much.
Having done lots of gigs in cruddy bars, this setup is way WAY better than what most bands go with, it's absolutely amazing!!
this has the potential for not only gigs but also practicing and home recording
Whole setup under 2k....can't beat it !! Maybe save even more going with the 40w evh iconic combo instead of the LBX and 1x12 cab.
Ben Eller and Fluff are like the Abbott and Costello of guitar. More please!
Mini amps today sure are incredible for the price. What we would have done to have little beasts like those 10-15 years ago (that weren't just the Tiny Terror or HT-5)
I loved my HT5 acc used to Mic it for gigs all the time but this new current gen of lunchbox amps is out of this world.
it's funny for me to watch gearheads try and pick out "cheap" equipment. Admittedly the total being under 2k for a whole rig isn't bad. But I've played gigs with a combo amp and 0 pedals. Not really going to impress anybody with your gear but it works. I also would say, in the kind of setting they are describing, that a cab is not the end of your sound at all. Especially since they're talking about smaller cabs being miked and all, now you're being affected by mic placement, the mic itself, whatever the sound guy is doing on the board (if it isn't your own guy), and the whole mains and the room and all that. But the cab would be the last bit you have direct control over probably. I've also played plenty of gigs where we were outdoors with very little sound system to speak of, or just plain not enough channels on the board for our setup, so we've had to decide between things like having enough vocal or drum mics or just cranking the amps or whatever.
My main gigging amp for well over 5 years was a Fender Mustang III modelling combo. Admittedly it looked dumb next to all the half stacks people would inevitably show up with but it sounded great and got the job done.
My uncle Ben and Fluff in one video! I love youtubes
8 years ago I paid less than 200 bucks for my gig rig. Bought a used red stripe bandit for 65 bucks and an American peavey predator for 115 and someone nodded it and put fender staggered locking tuners on it. So yeah this isn’t nearly the cheapest you can get away with lol
Thanks! Would you consider doing a version of this for bass?
Get a Dean bass for around 200 the TC electronic tuner and a Behringer V-Tone Bass BDI21 preamp to plug in the microphone cable. Cheapest rig for a gig.
These are my two guitar playing uncles teaming up; I love it.
I literally laughed out loud at the loading the dishwasher wrong comment. Great video!
Yes the cab is so much more important than most people think. I parted my current rig together over time and saved changing the cab for last and honestly wish I would have changed it first.
Great video fun to watch but... I'm thinking (only because mine is) ... you could find a gigable Rig at 1/2 the price. When you mic the amp ya just don't need much anymore. (a 15 watt combo amp will do the job) just saying ..This is my opinion anyway
True story. All I use is a Blues jr. Never needed anything more.
I've been following Fluff for years, but never played guitar. About a year ago I finally picked one up, and just as start to think about getting my first pedals, Fluff loads up this video. I think this is proof that I am the main character of the universe. Thank you very much for reading.
I agree on the Epiphone...I played an Epi SG in store and it was too good and too cheap not to take home. Don't know what they changed...but it's good! I own lots of high end guitars and still love this thing.
This video is like watching the office. Every time I watch it, I notice more things I love.
I love what you guys did here. Agree with Ben on the delay. Great amp choice in the EVH 5150, can't ever go wrong with one of those. Don't love the guitars but they're solid. Can't argue with the outcome: the tone is awesome. Great video!
I still do the rock/metal/punk gig with 100w heads because they are barely breathing at stage volume...and there is less noise and feedback overall. I have a loud drummer that makes 100w solid state amps inaudible, and small wattage tube amps push so hard they become unusable and thin. It all depends on your gigging situation for sure. When I play with my church gigs is where low wattage is king.
I recently bought that exact Epiphone Les Paul Modern as well as a Blackstar HT Venue Stage 60 MkII 2×12... what a fantastic combination!
Good job guys. Y’all covered everything guitarists are interested in in a concise video and spoke to people who may not play professionally but just want that rock tone.
I’d watch this show every week. Great chemistry.
"the cheapest gigable rig"
*picks two $800 guitars*
I honestly love the fact that you're kept it clean
Honestly I was expecting a Boss Katana 50 or something for the amp choice. Kinda nice to see something different. That said, I would go with an Invective MH over the 5150 LBX, as it's only a little more expensive and comes with the noise gate and boost built in. Not to mention it has a much better clean.
Also, as someone whose boost pedal of choice is an MWK Crissaegrim, of which only 11 have been made to my knowledge, I feel attacked by some of your comments lol
I'd actually argue that the 6505 MH is a better choice because it's both cheaper and it still cuts out a pedal from the rig since it comes with reverb. The Invective cuts out the gate, but I think the savings are offset by the cost increase.
The clean channel on the 6505 isn't nearly as good as the Invective, but it's still fine on the highest wattage setting and it becomes actually good if you put the jj low gain tubes in it (which I highly recommend doing since the gain maxes out around 4 or 5 with the stock tubes).
Do more of these. Some for classic rock and blues. Love seeing the Sweetwater store. One of my bucket list trips.
I'm in a country rock band and my rigs range from a vintage Marshall jcm800 2203, orange rockerverb 50 to a Magnatone Super 15 with Gibson guitars. (61 jr and new Les Paul Traditional. That lil evh lunch box is calling my name. Dammit that was great. I'm not your normal country player. That's why guitars have knobbies. Great video. I stopped giggin with 4x12s years ago and honestly I never get my Super 15 above 2 at gigs and thats with a 1x12 Magnatone cab. I've gigged with my Marshall class 5 with no mic even.
“It’s not a TUNER!!” Lol That made me laugh! I loved Kindergarden Cop as a kid!
You two have chemistry, this should be a quarterly video team up . Crank out some colabs 4x year, ish
I like this idea
Sometimes when youtubers get together they come off slightly awkward....these two have some good chemistry going on. I like them both individually, Ben is hilarious, and Bruce just seems like a really nice cool dude. But this is a good Duo...please do more!
The Les Paul modern has coil tapping and phase inversion too. It makes it a pretty versatile guitar! Bet that would’ve cleaned up the EVH even more
Iv'e got the LP studio with the coil splitting and it's a great guitar! I have 3 different Epi's , an SG , LP and the 58' Korina Explorer. All are great and the QC was excellent!
Oh look! It's Uncle Ben 🤘
I agree that a single 12" and 212" is totally gigable. The guitarists in my band use an EVH 50 watt with a 212 and a Mesa 50 watt with a 212 and they have no problem keeping up with my 1350 watt bass head, going through a 4x10 cabinet. On smaller shows, we each drop down to a single 12" and are all 3 still loud enough to keep up with our drummer.......who beats the drums like he's trying to kill them.
Marshall origin 50. Vertical 2x12. Boom.
That’s my gigging rig
Ya’ll got good chemistry, let’s have more!
Just a FYI for anyone out there, not criticism of the video. The TC electronic polytune 3 has a buffer and true bypass mode, the PT3 has a strobe mode that is +/- .02 cents accuracy. Also has an always on display option. Plus ton of other options. I own two polytune 3. Full size and mini, I use them for gigs, and setting up guitars. The polytune in my opinion is one of the best tuners on the market. Only other that I say may be better would be a sonic stomp reasearch strobe tuner.
Would have gone with a boss katana as they offer so much and sound really good when dialed in, or something like the headrush mx5 for the versatility. Guiter I would have gone with something like a schecter or Jackson and with a little fret work that dead simple... Bam budget rig
Can’t wait for the commentary on this one
I’m here for it
Really enjoyed this video. It's the best I've seen for awhile. Cheers 🤘
Fluff and Uncle Ben...my best Christmas gift came late
Nice video. The next episode should be the lightest rig for a gig. With all the cabinet sims, power pedals or small heads, and lighter cabinets you can easily cut the weight way down without impacting volume and sound.
It depends on the genre, but the dv mark stuff it's so light that once I almost lost my balance because i put a lot of force into lifting the amp (since it looked like it had a normal weight) it was a great surprise
Apparently “about $1500” is $1900 😂 Only 26% more. Must be a salesman.
Right! Big dif! Lol
I love that new burst where inside color goes all the way to the bottom
Great chemistry between you guys!
I have the LBX III-S and I like having the green channel as a pedal platform for clean and classic rock while using the red channel for the heavy and thrash stuff.
Guys, you see how there are 4 plugs on the ns-2? Have you ever used them? If you actually hook it up right its as good as the sentury. Im a high gain metal guy and it is amazingly tight.
REVV G20 & 2*12 cabinet? Handles all situations! Epi LP , sure. Or PRS SE? Depends on neck feel, personal choice.
My Epiphone Les Paul Modern is my favorite guitar. It's a crazy value.
Welcome to my hometown guys! Love Sweetwater!
I love Sweetwater! I dream of visiting a physical location someday! They have the best customer experience ever!
Oh, Ryan. That blocking on the walk and talk. Looked. So. Natural. Lol at that pace though and I feel your pain. 🤘🏻😜
I love when Andertons do these videos.
For 100 more you could also get the 6505 mh, 5 extra tube watts with a good clean and built in reverb. With that reverb ben could get the sauce he craves as well saving a bit of money in terms of pedals, and damn near identical gain tones.
Edit: forgot about this, but it also the tube life indicator that tells you if the power tubes are still good or if they need replaced
This had antique road show vibes and I love it! 😂😂 great video!
Hey Fluff and Uncle Ben , although it’s a fun video you guys made , I Love the humor. I do have a couple of issues with your picks , first of all the guitars , a 700 and 900 dollar guitar is in no way the best pricepoint you could have found , any mid prices ibanez , Chapman , schecter , squire would have done the trick much better , the amps I can’t fault exept maybe the fact that a combo would have been a better pick because you didn’t need to buy a external cab
Total cost listed on screen 1900 dollars. I use an FM3, which was around 1200 new from Fractals website with tax. A nice powered speaker like a CP12 can be had for 650 ish dollars with tax, or you could go cheap with a Headrush if you think they're good enough. that's 1850, so very similar price and the versatility of the FM3 is incredible and includes gates and reverbs and many other effect options.
******* I wish Fluff would start his own "Rig Rundown" interview/local band gear type vids. Travel around to local shows, show off some local bands, backstage etc. Local bands get their name out, plus Fluff can just chill, and do what he does best!
One thing that may be an interesting contender for the pedals is the TC plethora X5, it's ~$400 but much more bang for the buck. It includes a good chunk of all toneprint pedals
That Epiphone sunburst is a bit strange.
You guys have a fun dynamic. I DEMAND moar!!
This is the best TH-cam Bromance since Mick and Dan of TPS
great vid Ben & Fluff! "says the poor boy"
Really identify with the whole not cheaping out on the guitar cab. My realization came when my band opened up for a band that was a bit more established and the guitarists rig was a Gibson Les Paul custom into a duel rectifier then plugged the whole expensive as hell rig into a berhinger 4X12.
His tone didn't sound much different from mine as we were using the exact same cab, and my rig was a poor man's rig (pawn shop Ibanez with guitar fetish pickups, into a peavey valveking). I sold that thing not too long after and bought something far better
Great show! Thank you guys.
What a combo, I already know this is gonna be a good one
Uncle Ben! I am digging these colab vids! 😎👍
That shirt is killing me, lmfao. Nice to finally see some of the content that you guys teased a week or two ago!
What about using a Boss Katana head? Or combo amps with good speakers?
I would say the ultimate budget, giggable, tube amp is a PRS MT15. It sounds great and is loud AF.
Finally! Andertons opens a US chapter!!
The difference between a100 watt amp vs.a 50 watt amp at full volume is only 3dbs. You'd would've been thinking a lot more but it's not. So yes, you can use a 50 watter with no problem. Great video for the kids and beginners. Thanks Ben and Fluff.🎸🎸🎸🎸👍
P.S. Great for studio gigs also.
Harley Benton guitar with EMGs, locking tuners - around 400€
Mooer GE250 - around 250€
Connect straight to the PA.
THAT is a cheap gigable rig.
Uncle Ben is great, i wish he played more tunes, love hearing him play
I have an Orange Micro Dark, and it’s a cool amp with great sound
Clean & dirty sounds (with the amp & with pedals)
I use it more than the other amps I own
Should've just gone with an all EVH rig. Can't go wrong with a Wolfgang guitar. I suspect you guys didn't want to pick an all EVH rig with the amp, cab and guitar or possibly Sweetwater is out of EVH Standard guitars at the moment? Maybe that would've seemed too much like an ad for the EVH brand but like I said you can't go wrong with the EVH stuff.
or because all EVH guitars have a floyd rose, and it’s a cheaper floyd rose. Hard tails are better for drop tunings, especially if your changing it on the fly. Btw I’m not trying to sound mean, just saying. 😊
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It’s a damn shame they quit offering hard tail EVH models. I would love a hard tail Wolfgang. I’m still kicking myself for not buying one a few years ago.
@@charlesbolton8471 Oh I know, I feel ya. I love the look and the legacy of the Wolfgangs, and I really want one. But I’m always turned off by the floyd. 😒 That’s why Reverb is a thing I guess, lol.
@@ravendemo4980 The EVH floyd rose units sit flush on top of the body not floating (just like the PRS they picked out) therefore eliminating many of the issues present with cheap Floyds and because it sits flush on the body you can pretty easily do drop tunings too. Yes, you need the Allen wrench to lock/unlock but it's not a big deal. I've never had an issue before. What's quicker than a D-tuna at dropping from E to D and back again? I get why people are hesitant to get a floating Floyd Rose guitar especially on an affordable guitar. They can be a real pain in the butt sometimes however it's totally different with the EVH setup. If you like the Wolfgang then get a Wolfgang. The floyd rose thing is simply not an issue like it can be on other guitars.
I LOVE the Micro Dark, and I HIGHLY recommend it.
Yay, a new Andertons video! Love ya, Chappers and Captain Lee! */puts on glasses/* Fluff and Ben? Well, this is embarrassing...
I'm like 2 hours from you guys right now. Also, should've went with the Orange Rocker 15 over the EVH just because it has 2 channels. I think it was $650 when I bought it. The band I was in played everything from Fleetwood Mac and Tom Petty to Metallica and Van Halen with that thing. My pedalboard is just a dyna comp, TC Spark through the loop for a lead volume boost, EHX silencer, and a NuX Atlantic delay & reverb and for a long time my main guitar was a used Samick LP that I paid $200 for.
We were one of the best cover bands in the whole state. You don't need expensive stuff to gig. Just do it!!
15 watts is plenty loud enough to drown out my super loud, heavy-handed drummer. I can't even turn it up halfway or it's too loud....I'm also running through an Orange PPC2x12 which is...just amazing. So I'm sure that helps. That part of my rig is the most expensive piece. Still fits in my JNCOs but kinda sucks because it weighs 78 friggin pounds
This is highly entertaining 😂❤️ pls more of these
If you wanted to go with a combo amp instead a can't recommend the Boss Katana Artist enough. 100 watts, and that Waza Craft speaker sounds great.
This is cute (actually pretty great video)
Now for a real budget- clean amp and drive pedals which is more convenient for live use:
Same guitar, though I'd go for my favorite PRS SE 245 for the same price.
Bugera V22 tube amp - 439$
Line 6 HX Effects - 699$
On amp + cab you saved 598 (cheapest head and cab) - 439 = 159$
On pedals you saved 1120 - 699 = 421$
You saved 580$ and now you have a 22W tube amp and a high level multi effects unit that would give you all of the effects you need + great for live use.
Decibels add in a log scale, which makes a 2x12 cabinet only 10% louder than a 1x12, and a 4x12 less than 20% louder than a 2x12. BUT to keep the same volume levels on each speaker you will need to increase output on the amp a lot to drive a 4x12 to be 20% louder than a 2x12, and a 2x12 to a 1x12. Basically you need 2x the amp output to increase 10% on dbs.
If its volume you are looking for, go for a 1x12 high output.
Love me some Sweetwater! Matt Fawcett was my guy back in the day! Take my money!
These videos are filled with dad jokes.
Love it 👌🏼
While these guys are both brilliant and I’ve learned tons from them, I can’t say I agree with this being the cheapest gig rig at Sweetwater, nor the most reliable.
I’m around Fluff’s age (43), and I too have blown through tens of thousands of dollars owning expensive boutique guitars, amps & cabs. I stopped doing that about 5 years ago and have lost nothing tone-wise in the process.
While the rig they picked out is truly awesome, IMHO, one of the cheapest giggable analog rigs would be an EVH 5150 Overdrive Pedal, an EHX 44 Magnum, the same pedals, same guitar as in the video and a Fender Hot Rod Deluxe ext. cab.
That would bring the total down to $1475.00 with a couple advantages to boot. You can run the 44 Magnum in Bright mode, so when you switch off the 5150 pedal, you have a true clean sound. Additionally, this rig has no tubes to fail you at the worst possible time, and the entire rig would fit on a small pedal board with only 2 external cables instead of 4.
there's nothing more entertaining than watching Lord Farquadd and fluff test out gear
The pod go is all you need.
Nice vid! You definitely dont need a big rig to gig (haha), I prefer the Marshall DSL20hr with a 2x12 Cab, like a MX212 as for an affordable setup (I personally use the SC20h plus JVMC212 cab with different speakers to mic them and mix them). But great rig there with the 5150! Love it!
I had a feeling it would be the EVH in this video! Such a good amp. +1 on the cab, hate when people cheap out on cabs!
Maybe so, but it is far from yhe cheapest amp you can get that is gig worthy. Defeats the title of the video.
@@MercilessGuitar151 I dont know, i think its cheap enough for someone who wants to do this professionally like mentioned in the video. Compared to amps that are thousands, this isnt too bad.
The best deal on a guitar is the black Guild Bluesbird (List $1,270, but showing up for $450-$500!). Incredible specs, with only recommendation, change out the 3-way pickup switch for genuine Switchcraft 3-way (shorter length). As far as amps, US Designed and Built Crates!
Very informative, I would love to see one for bass
Is that a 60 Cycle Hum shirt? Love Ryan’s channel. I’ve seen him wear that same shirt is why I’m asking.