I do have a lot of disagreements but am still liking the video because even then you do have a lot of valid placements and the editing and music was very good and obviously we all have to appreciate your hard work
❤️❤️, thanks. You can list your disagreements, also I myself don't think this list is accurate. I struggled juggling over 300+ characters. Do note their some characters who are > others in a 1 v 1 but below otherwise in all stats and hax, and that's due to bad matchup basically.
@@listmaker2023 your welcome man and well I do think hulk spider man geralt and kratos should be a little higher and possible cuphead those are my main ones also I assume characters like red or the pvz player you count them as like summoning the plants /pokemons in terms of abilities ?
@@paulsh2071 Red is being counted as the pokemon he had from when you encounter him in Pokemon Yellow. For plants vs Zombies, I'm assuming all Peak plant summonings already at display otherwise he gets blisted due to prep time being required for each plant. I can see kratos and Dante going either way but ranked > them is chou chou infinite and that's going into subjective reality manipulation territory. And no I don't think kratos beating the sisters of Fate automatically means he has subjective reality manipulation. The sisters of Fate and gaia very all feats that needed specific context to be implemented. As seen in gow 2018 he doesn't have any said ability passively minus Spartans rage. As for the rest, Hulk, Spiderman, Geralt and Batman I see being debatable with one or 2 spots only, I don't see them progressing 5 to 10 placements > the list.
@@listmaker2023 yeah I do agree with spider man and geralt being only like 2or 3 spots up but I do think hulk does deserve to be way higher unless in this game he isn't in his full power I haven't played it and don't get me wrong I don't think kratos and dante should be in like top 10( also I do agree with bayo being above the 2 of them in case you are wondering) but possible I would see those 3 being exactly below alucard
@@paulsh2071 This is hulk from The 2003 ps2 game Ultimate Destruction only. Any feats related to comics, MCU is obviously not considered, different versions altogether. As for bayonetta I have her at 27, Kratos and Dante at 40 and 41 and alucard at 24. So alucard is > all of them no doubt. Bayonetta is ranked much higher then them due to her left eye basically giving her clairvoyance and allowing her to turn whatever she desires into reality. Dante and kratos are super haxed time stop, Durability negation etc but none of their abilites are passive, it also doesn't help that each game has them lose all their abilities acquired from weaponary and I'm not ranking any composite versions otherwise I'd have to rank Dante from SMT as well which would boost him much higher. As for alucard he solos all 3 no difficulty. Really no explanation needed, and I'm only ranking alucard from symphony of the night at peak. Composite alucard too much for all 3 of em.
Lots of goated characters! Even tho I have disagreements with this list I won't be listing them cause It's very hard to scale 300+ characters (something I couldn't do).
I think it would be cool to see a strongest Smash characters canonically with all of them that are in Smash including the other protagonists and villains someday
I have a lot of disagreements. Yes, I'm not very familiar with the anime and some of the characters in the list but a lot of characters was missing. From Mortal Kombat we've had only Raiden and he was ranked like 150, but no Liu Kang who's now from the new game he is omnistrong. Also Death from Darksiders, one of the horsemen of the apocalypse so low ranked and also without his siblings. Dante and Kratos low ranked. No hate brother, just an opinion. Personally for me N1 is Asura. Greetings.
Out of pure curiosity... where would you put the Gacha Summoner from Gacha World? To make it brief, they defeated Creator Luni, the creator of all universes within the Lunime verse, supposely infinite universes as they are mean to represent all works and characters Lunime (the game's creator) ever imagined... they also defeated The Corruption who was controlling Luni, and Goddess Ellie, who had both the Gacha Summoner and The Corruption's powers, and she also had control over the concept of RNG luck.
300 ain't easy to make. Glad to see you made it 😅 Though there are some disagreements with the list with characters like Frisk, Asura or Kratos. And liu kang is the protagonist of mk
Raiden is cooler and that's kinda incorrect. Liu kang was replaced by raiden in mortal kombat vs Dc Combat. He was replaced by Johnny in mk 10 so on and so forth.
The list is Finally up. Just gonna clarify a few things. 1) A few characters like John Marston, Rico Rodriguez, Coke Phelps are missing and that's cause I kinda went insane from ranking that many characters so don't mind if some aren't present, list is already 330 characters long. 2) Bayonetta vs Dante is a debate that has continued since the early 2000's and Even Death Battle misrepresenting the verdict so let me explain. ignoring the fact that the creator of both the games claimed Bayonetta was superior ( No he wasn't trolling yall looking at it too deep), Dante simply has no counter for Bayonetta's left eye which basically allows her to alter reality as she sees fit. 2) The Link being ranked in his video is his game and Watch self which posses the complete power of the tri force. 3) No ren or Dante are not complex Multiversal or Outerversal just because a certain troll site said so. 4) Kratos 2018 fodder, I'm ranking og kratos from the original trilogy. 5) Ragna VG form being ranked since anime form is a clear misrepresentation of his abilities. 6) Apologies for the missing text for Shovel Knight. movie maker was acting stupid.
@@jacobcrist7982 His 2018 self is fodder to his og trilogy self. The comic prequel stated his 2018 self is much weaker then his og self. He's even lost all his weapons and most of his abilities minus Spartans rage.
3) Where do you scale Dante and the whole DMC verse? I know that the arguments for Compley Multiversal come from the statement of 9D souls. Altough even without the 9D stuff i heard that you could get DMC to Low Complex via putting Hell at 5D.
@@listmaker2023 1.Why is the player from Kindergarten above Solid Snake? 2.why is Doomslayer above Dante and Kratos? 3.Why is Steve(Minecraft) placement so low? 4.Why is Asuras placement so low? 5.why is the mc from The Witch House so high?
@@Bigsmoke-tn3wf 1) huh? The Player from kindergarten is legit haxed af, death Manipulation, Plot Manipulation and just lightning Manipulation alone is enough to beat solid snake, the laser gun itself has sol attack speed. Worst case scenario solid snake kills him and the day resets causing the player from kindergarten to just anticipate moves. 2) doomguy defeated davoth who's 5D lol. Doomguy is sol only in 5D realm, he's otherwise pretty much irrelevant speed in lower realms. Dante and kratos are overrated. Max with wank you can argue low multiversal via the sparda feats (DMC2) and the sisters of Fate arguments ( GOW2) Both are otherwise just uni+ with Infinte to Immesurable speed. 3) because people equate in game mechanics to Steve literally. They argue he has type 4 immortality because he can respawn after death but so can nearly every vg Protagonist unless your playing the game on perma death mode. They argue he has age Manipulation despite never applying to combat, he's only been able to age animals into adults under certain conditions. They argue he has death Manipulation by being able to withstand the wither effect but just having resistance =/= him being to perform said death Manipulation. His dimensional storage is useless unless he can actually find weapons to begin with. His ap and speed are also relatively low. People just ignore context and give him abilities that are meant as in game mechanics only, same can apply to every other vg protagonists. 4) defeating Chakravartin's Creator at his peak isn't more impressive then defeating Mundus or the sisters of Fate. He ranks below Dante and kratos period.
Some placements feel really random, but I guess it's near impossible to not confused when ranking so many characters with completely different abilities and gameplay mechanics. Overall, you definitely have my respect for making such a huge list.
Is this List based off of Games you Only Played ? I Was gonna says there's like over a Billion games and it be hard to rank everyone from those billion games it'll take you millennia if you ever do so
Umm idk what you mean by tear down houses cause none of Little Mac's opponents ever did that, if you're referring to the sandman feat it was calced at Wall, he didn't destroy it at once, it was overtime. As for the bullet train feat, piston Honda did that, his running speed is superior to little mac by far. Little Mac has superior h2h combat speed only, since piston honda can out run bullet trains yet in terms of reactions his best feats are reacting to humans swinging katanas. In terms of pure speed both Jimmy and Little Mac are Superhumans in terms of speed since both can outrun cars at moderate speeds. Jimmy loses if he fights Little Mac in a Fist Fight but he's got a superior arsenal such as bottled rocket launchers, his skateboard allows him to amp his speed, toxic fumes can Poison enemies etc. The bottled rocket launchers can legit pulverised entire marble columns which is far more impressive and calced higher then sandman destroying brick/wooden walls of houses. Unless it's h2h and the starting distance is really close Little Mac loses. However assuming Little Mac is as fast as piston honda in pure travel speed then sure he wins on that scenario.
DAMN! How would you rank doomguy? Outerversal? And how would you rank ashen one or where would rank tarnished? How strong is shadow? I’d have Dante higher And asura above kratos And cloud lower
Doomguy 5D( Low Complex Multiversal) via being able to beat Davos. Already ranked Ashen One, don't Remember where I ranked him exactly but he's somewhere around 60 to 75 ranges. No clue who tarnished is otherwise he'd be on the list. Dante is fine where he is. He's round about Uni + to Low Multiversal ranges only and he doesn't have the hax to deal with the subjective reality manipulators ranked > Him. Asura has zero hax to deal with og trilogy Kratos. Unlimited mode is a game mechanic, it has never proven to actually make asura truly Invincible without going into NLF territory. Cloud is Multiversal he's fine where he's at.
@@listmaker2023cloud multiversal ? I don’t know it’s been a longtime since I’ve played ff7 But he’s was like complex universal Dante is multi to complex multi from what I remember Fair enough for kratos an asura Tarnished is from Elden ring I’m saying where would you scale ashen one planetary?
@@listmaker2023 star because of gwyn been able to extinguish or revive the great flame that brought the age of sunlight to the planet due to the sun being directly connected with it so he possibly can can turn of/destroy the sun The tarnished form Elden ring could rank higher because of Radann destroying entire constellation
I have a question, why did you choose Red because aren't the protagonist from Gold/Silver, Black 2 and White 2 and Sun and Moon stronger than him since they all beat Red before.
They beat him but red keeps growing > them while they don't progress The protagnist from Gold beat him but the protagnist from Silver faced a much stronger Red whereas gold never reappeared in the series.
Nah, Lightning is the strongest but surprisingly even many FF fans don't even know who lightning is lmao. So I decided to go with Cloud, cause he's popular af. Also it wouldn't matter, Lightning and cloud would still be same rank on the list.
I do have a lot of disagreements but am still liking the video because even then you do have a lot of valid placements and the editing and music was very good and obviously we all have to appreciate your hard work
❤️❤️, thanks.
You can list your disagreements, also I myself don't think this list is accurate. I struggled juggling over 300+ characters.
Do note their some characters who are > others in a 1 v 1 but below otherwise in all stats and hax, and that's due to bad matchup basically.
@@listmaker2023 your welcome man and well I do think hulk spider man geralt and kratos should be a little higher and possible cuphead those are my main ones also I assume characters like red or the pvz player you count them as like summoning the plants /pokemons in terms of abilities ?
@@paulsh2071
Red is being counted as the pokemon he had from when you encounter him in Pokemon Yellow.
For plants vs Zombies, I'm assuming all Peak plant summonings already at display otherwise he gets blisted due to prep time being required for each plant.
I can see kratos and Dante going either way but ranked > them is chou chou infinite and that's going into subjective reality manipulation territory.
And no I don't think kratos beating the sisters of Fate automatically means he has subjective reality manipulation. The sisters of Fate and gaia very all feats that needed specific context to be implemented. As seen in gow 2018 he doesn't have any said ability passively minus Spartans rage.
As for the rest, Hulk, Spiderman, Geralt and Batman I see being debatable with one or 2 spots only, I don't see them progressing 5 to 10 placements > the list.
@@listmaker2023 yeah I do agree with spider man and geralt being only like 2or 3 spots up but I do think hulk does deserve to be way higher unless in this game he isn't in his full power I haven't played it and don't get me wrong I don't think kratos and dante should be in like top 10( also I do agree with bayo being above the 2 of them in case you are wondering) but possible I would see those 3 being exactly below alucard
@@paulsh2071
This is hulk from The 2003 ps2 game Ultimate Destruction only. Any feats related to comics, MCU is obviously not considered, different versions altogether.
As for bayonetta I have her at 27, Kratos and Dante at 40 and 41 and alucard at 24.
So alucard is > all of them no doubt.
Bayonetta is ranked much higher then them due to her left eye basically giving her clairvoyance and allowing her to turn whatever she desires into reality.
Dante and kratos are super haxed time stop, Durability negation etc but none of their abilites are passive, it also doesn't help that each game has them lose all their abilities acquired from weaponary and I'm not ranking any composite versions otherwise I'd have to rank Dante from SMT as well which would boost him much higher.
As for alucard he solos all 3 no difficulty. Really no explanation needed, and I'm only ranking alucard from symphony of the night at peak. Composite alucard too much for all 3 of em.
25:07 Love you actually incluyed Matt Roszak, nice!
Nice huge list. Can't wait to see your take on all of these:
Top strongest anime protagonist
Top strongest anime antagonist
Top strongest anime verses
You'll see em end of the year
@@listmaker2023 alex mercer should be 1 he just steal power and ability of every Mc become stronger
Lots of goated characters! Even tho I have disagreements with this list I won't be listing them cause It's very hard to scale 300+ characters (something I couldn't do).
Thank you for the feedback. ❤️❤️
I'm very interested in what a list of the strongest super smash bros characters would look like. I mean you have some of them in this list
I think it would be cool to see a strongest Smash characters canonically with all of them that are in Smash including the other protagonists and villains someday
One day sure, maybe early 2023.
The Baker(Cookie Clicker):ha,they don't know about me,they don't know about the cookies and there true power.
I have a lot of disagreements. Yes, I'm not very familiar with the anime and some of the characters in the list but a lot of characters was missing. From Mortal Kombat we've had only Raiden and he was ranked like 150, but no Liu Kang who's now from the new game he is omnistrong. Also Death from Darksiders, one of the horsemen of the apocalypse so low ranked and also without his siblings. Dante and Kratos low ranked. No hate brother, just an opinion. Personally for me N1 is Asura. Greetings.
Great video mate.❤
Never expected darling from sucker for love to be here
Out of pure curiosity... where would you put the Gacha Summoner from Gacha World?
To make it brief, they defeated Creator Luni, the creator of all universes within the Lunime verse, supposely infinite universes as they are mean to represent all works and characters Lunime (the game's creator) ever imagined... they also defeated The Corruption who was controlling Luni, and Goddess Ellie, who had both the Gacha Summoner and The Corruption's powers, and she also had control over the concept of RNG luck.
Probably somewhere in the 11-20 range then.
Where's Rico Rodriguez from Just Cause series? Maybe I missed it.
300 ain't easy to make. Glad to see you made it 😅
Though there are some disagreements with the list with characters like Frisk, Asura or Kratos.
And liu kang is the protagonist of mk
Raiden is cooler and that's kinda incorrect.
Liu kang was replaced by raiden in mortal kombat vs Dc Combat.
He was replaced by Johnny in mk 10 so on and so forth.
The list is Finally up. Just gonna clarify a few things.
1) A few characters like John Marston, Rico Rodriguez, Coke Phelps are missing and that's cause I kinda went insane from ranking that many characters so don't mind if some aren't present, list is already 330 characters long.
2) Bayonetta vs Dante is a debate that has continued since the early 2000's and Even Death Battle misrepresenting the verdict so let me explain.
ignoring the fact that the creator of both the games claimed Bayonetta was superior ( No he wasn't trolling yall looking at it too deep), Dante simply has no counter for Bayonetta's left eye which basically allows her to alter reality as she sees fit.
2) The Link being ranked in his video is his game and Watch self which posses the complete power of the tri force.
3) No ren or Dante are not complex Multiversal or Outerversal just because a certain troll site said so.
4) Kratos 2018 fodder, I'm ranking og kratos from the original trilogy.
5) Ragna VG form being ranked since anime form is a clear misrepresentation of his abilities.
6) Apologies for the missing text for Shovel Knight. movie maker was acting stupid.
Is 2018 Kratos fodder in general or relative to the OG trilogy?
@@jacobcrist7982
His 2018 self is fodder to his og trilogy self. The comic prequel stated his 2018 self is much weaker then his og self.
He's even lost all his weapons and most of his abilities minus Spartans rage.
3) Where do you scale Dante and the whole DMC verse? I know that the arguments for Compley Multiversal come from the statement of 9D souls. Altough even without the 9D stuff i heard that you could get DMC to Low Complex via putting Hell at 5D.
@@shootnslash4804 I scale them at low multiversal
@@listmaker2023 That is reasonable. That was the rating on the Vs Battles Wiki before the upgrade.
Fantastic video like always,l do have some questions but l'll ask them later
AlrightE
@@listmaker2023 1.Why is the player from Kindergarten above Solid Snake?
2.why is Doomslayer above Dante and Kratos?
3.Why is Steve(Minecraft) placement so low?
4.Why is Asuras placement so low?
5.why is the mc from The Witch House so high?
@@Bigsmoke-tn3wf
1) huh? The Player from kindergarten is legit haxed af, death Manipulation, Plot Manipulation and just lightning Manipulation alone is enough to beat solid snake, the laser gun itself has sol attack speed.
Worst case scenario solid snake kills him and the day resets causing the player from kindergarten to just anticipate moves.
2) doomguy defeated davoth who's 5D lol. Doomguy is sol only in 5D realm, he's otherwise pretty much irrelevant speed in lower realms.
Dante and kratos are overrated. Max with wank you can argue low multiversal via the sparda feats (DMC2) and the sisters of Fate arguments ( GOW2)
Both are otherwise just uni+ with Infinte to Immesurable speed.
3) because people equate in game mechanics to Steve literally. They argue he has type 4 immortality because he can respawn after death but so can nearly every vg Protagonist unless your playing the game on perma death mode.
They argue he has age Manipulation despite never applying to combat, he's only been able to age animals into adults under certain conditions.
They argue he has death Manipulation by being able to withstand the wither effect but just having resistance =/= him being to perform said death Manipulation.
His dimensional storage is useless unless he can actually find weapons to begin with. His ap and speed are also relatively low.
People just ignore context and give him abilities that are meant as in game mechanics only, same can apply to every other vg protagonists.
4) defeating Chakravartin's Creator at his peak isn't more impressive then defeating Mundus or the sisters of Fate. He ranks below Dante and kratos period.
@@listmaker2023 btw you haven't answered the 5th question
@@Bigsmoke-tn3wf
Didn't see that question. But regardless, higher then Who exactly? The question kinda vague.
Some placements feel really random, but I guess it's near impossible to not confused when ranking so many characters with completely different abilities and gameplay mechanics. Overall, you definitely have my respect for making such a huge list.
Cool video 👍❤️
Thanks
Is this List based off of Games you Only Played ?
I Was gonna says there's like over a Billion games and it be hard to rank everyone from those billion games it'll take you millennia if you ever do so
Yh only those I've played lmao, obviously I can't Rank from ever game in existence.
@@listmaker2023 yeah that's impossible to do
I have another question, does Warhammer 40,000 count as a video game series because I thought it was a board game like DND or something like that.
Warhammer is a vg series, a book series, a board game series, so on and so forth.
@@listmaker2023 okay, thanks
Pleas make a video about rusty lake games
The indie game studio?
@@listmaker2023 yeah
Just wondering how is Little Mac below Jimmy Hoskins when he beats pro boxers even ones that can tear down houses and run as fast as bullet trains?
Umm idk what you mean by tear down houses cause none of Little Mac's opponents ever did that, if you're referring to the sandman feat it was calced at Wall, he didn't destroy it at once, it was overtime.
As for the bullet train feat, piston Honda did that, his running speed is superior to little mac by far. Little Mac has superior h2h combat speed only, since piston honda can out run bullet trains yet in terms of reactions his best feats are reacting to humans swinging katanas.
In terms of pure speed both Jimmy and Little Mac are Superhumans in terms of speed since both can outrun cars at moderate speeds.
Jimmy loses if he fights Little Mac in a Fist Fight but he's got a superior arsenal such as bottled rocket launchers, his skateboard allows him to amp his speed, toxic fumes can Poison enemies etc.
The bottled rocket launchers can legit pulverised entire marble columns which is far more impressive and calced higher then sandman destroying brick/wooden walls of houses.
Unless it's h2h and the starting distance is really close Little Mac loses. However assuming Little Mac is as fast as piston honda in pure travel speed then sure he wins on that scenario.
@@listmaker2023 Mr Sandman tore down a building in his TD intro
@@jacobcrist7982 ill check it out, might have missed that, but I'm fine with putting Little mac > Jimmy then
DAMN!
How would you rank doomguy? Outerversal?
And how would you rank ashen one or where would rank tarnished?
How strong is shadow?
I’d have Dante higher
And asura above kratos
And cloud lower
Doomguy 5D( Low Complex Multiversal) via being able to beat Davos.
Already ranked Ashen One, don't Remember where I ranked him exactly but he's somewhere around 60 to 75 ranges.
No clue who tarnished is otherwise he'd be on the list.
Dante is fine where he is. He's round about Uni + to Low Multiversal ranges only and he doesn't have the hax to deal with the subjective reality manipulators ranked > Him.
Asura has zero hax to deal with og trilogy Kratos. Unlimited mode is a game mechanic, it has never proven to actually make asura truly Invincible without going into NLF territory.
Cloud is Multiversal he's fine where he's at.
@@listmaker2023cloud multiversal ? I don’t know it’s been a longtime since I’ve played ff7
But he’s was like complex universal
Dante is multi to complex multi from what I remember
Fair enough for kratos an asura
Tarnished is from Elden ring
I’m saying where would you scale ashen one planetary?
@@equ-ipe6893
Ashen One I have around Planet to Large Planet ranges.
Idk could be Star, but I don't know how people reached that conclusion.
@@listmaker2023 star because of gwyn been able to extinguish or revive the great flame that brought the age of sunlight to the planet due to the sun being directly connected with it so he possibly can can turn of/destroy the sun
The tarnished form Elden ring could rank higher because of Radann destroying entire constellation
@@equ-ipe6893
Ic, well its a good thing the Character I ranked one spot > Him is Large Star and ftl+ ranges XD.
Steve
330?! I thought it was 300😭
added 30 more.
I have a question, why did you choose Red because aren't the protagonist from Gold/Silver, Black 2 and White 2 and Sun and Moon stronger than him since they all beat Red before.
They beat him but red keeps growing > them while they don't progress
The protagnist from Gold beat him but the protagnist from Silver faced a much stronger Red whereas gold never reappeared in the series.
In what video game is The Emperor of Mankind the protagonist in?
Who do you think would win Solid Snake or comic Batman?
Comic Batman
I have another question, isn't Lightning the strongest Final Fantasy protagonist or did Cloud do something that scales him higher than her?
Nah, Lightning is the strongest but surprisingly even many FF fans don't even know who lightning is lmao.
So I decided to go with Cloud, cause he's popular af.
Also it wouldn't matter, Lightning and cloud would still be same rank on the list.
I come back 9 month after and
WHERE THE HELL ARE SMT PROTA?😂
I ranked Persona only. Also rn I'm working on a top 500 anime Protagonist list so I can't update previous lists rn.
@@listmaker2023 k good luck
@@listmaker2023ren should be 3 tbh
@@equ-ipe6893
Thanks for the feedback ❤️❤️.
Fuck yeah
Estelle Bright or Icarus from Glory of Icarus
Holy moly
The God Emperor Of Mankind > Sora > Ren Amamiya > Cloud Strife > Dante > Kratos > Neptune > Mario > Kirby > The Doom Slayer > Sol Badguy > Ragna The Bloodedge > Adrian Fahrenheit Tepes (Alucard) > The Hunter (Paleblood) > Maxwell (The Scribblenaut) > Asura > Bayonetta > Samus Aran > Shadow > Amaterasu (Okami) > Reimu Hakurei > Crono > Gunvolt > Caleb > Suguri > Madotsuki > Urotsuki > Link > Master Chief > Hatsune Miku > Date Masamune > Alex Mercer > Hyde Kido
The axiom???
Cool list lots of disagreement but its your opinion tho so I can't really argue
Thanks.
This guy really puts tekken character above death darksiders raiden mortal kombat lol. Joke list
Why is Ezio above Batman :D
I'm ranking ezio at his full capacity. Ezio with apple of Eden + staff of Eden and Leonardo's artillery is nuking Arkham Batman no difficulty.
W
Alot of issues with this list
A lack of tes characters is the obvious one
One character per franchise only.
@@listmaker2023that makes sense if so I'd put Cyrus or the dovakin on rather then nerverine but good list
@@listmaker2023 do a top ten strongest verses
Arkham Batman is way too low honestly
200 Characters inspired by Superman Copycats Strongest
I think asura is stronger than dante and kratos