250 lb Bodybuilder vs VO2 Max Test
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- After a couple of years of implementing cardio for bodybuilding prep & general health, I went to Vitality Medical Wellness to test my VO2 Max! Thank you to Dr. Galvin & his team for the awesome experience! ► www.vitalitymwi.com/
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if you dont cycle normally i would recommend doing the vo2test running instead.
but you seemed kinda out of breath so maybe your breath stopped before your legs stiffened. but im sure faster cadense could make you go a little longer as well.
This puts the crazy numbers that top endurance athletes were getting in the unlimited epo era into perspective. Bjorn Daehlie supposedly got up above 90. Their blood was sludge but boy could it fit a lot of oxygen!
Alaskan Husky dogs measure at 200 and there is this elk thing that measures at 300. How they test an animal is a helluva visual to imagine. I'd love to see that.
@@jujimufu yeah you wouldn't catch me trying to get that mask on an elk! Joking aside I'd imagine they are rough calculations based on estimates and rule of thumb formulas
Funny enough, they actually train dogs and horses (usually racing animals) to breathe through the mask. There’s videos out there if you’re curious.
@@brycerhone3298 hehe funi dogi test 🔬🐕
@@jujimufuredo this just let them shock you with a cattle prod when you slow down. That’s how.
Thanks for sharing the VO2 max test. Listening to Dr. Galvin talk about how muscle and exercise affects quality of life especially later in life reminded me that this is what most people need to here.
That guy was legit, quietly confident, and really knows his stuff.
It’s been a while (for me) since viewing your channel after my break from TH-cam, but definitely the first channel I always go to and enjoying watching. Also the new merchandise is amazing! ❤
Thanks Robert, happy days my friend! Hope you're well and making a great life for yourself! I bet you are!
Dude it blows my mind that I've been able to follow your journey online for pretty much 20 years now. Congrats to all your success.
I've combined my cardio and outdoor time in the last two years, and it is immensely gratifying. No matter where I start I just end up in such a positive headspace.
I really respect how he wasn't afraid to say he didn't know the answer to some questions and would have to dig into some topics a bit more
Oh hell yeah another Juji video to listen to on my daily walks. Love you man, you're my greatest inspiration.
I've also noticed some heart rate gains since I've started to walk more and going to uni in my bike instead of taking my car.
Training for health is as important as training for physique or strenght goals. Thank you for talking about this. ❤
This isba great video, that doc gets a cookie for being such a good sport!
Loved this video Jon, thank your old dad for the genetics, you’re right, different paths, you choose strength and I love endurance 👍
Very good info in here about the reasons behind the different training zones. And yeah, I don't use a heartrate monitor, but I go on hikes while tracking pace and elevation and stuff, and you quickly learn the difference between high zone 2 and low zone 3, mostly from the physical consequences of pushing too hard.
Also yeah, the secret drug THEY dont what YOU to KNOW is... exercise, oxygen intake, bloodflow, and co2 output. Not in good enough shape to do the exercise you'd like to do? Go for a walk or a jog until you are, and focus on breathing well the whole time.
You should try a heart rate monitor . It was a game changer for me . I bonk out a lot when I program my runs with my pace . Especially as someone who also weight lifts .
Sometimes my legs are so spent I can't make my runs at the particular pace in my programming .
Also if you are using a garmin watch or Apple Watch . The heart rate monitors are decent but nothing compares to the consistency to a heart rate monitor across the chest .
I love the music in your videos, I love your physique, and youre such an inspiration Juji!!
Looking forward to this juji
I myself am 255lbs I used to do strongman training and recently I've been going short runs, in the Army at least we call it 60/120's. Its max cardio/sprint for 60 sec and walk for 120 sec. if that's too much break it down to 30/60. Anyways, I've noticed that my cardio stride, tempo, and endurance improved waaaay better than just doing long cardio sessions in zone 2. Also I should add I'm not going past 20 mins doing that neither so its a time saver for better results if you ask me....
that's called high-intensity interval training (HIIT). It's been well established for at least 20 years that HIIT results in greater caloric expenditure and metabolic/physiological adaptations compared to steady-state aerobic exercise.
@@Tkelly5HIIT is superior in any way
thankyou sir. you are a inspiration. you seriously hgave improved my life. thankyou
As a firefighter, we have do the same test every 2 years. Its really nice knowing all those markers like vo2max, your bodyfat and hormone levels etc.
Juji this is a long shot, but I’d love to see you collab with Nile Wilson and do some gymnastics stuff. They will be mind blow of how a guy your size can move, and you can show them tricking as well. Putting it out into the universe to one day see it on my feed !
Years ago, I took such a test on an uphill walk test (i.e., a modified Bruce protocol) and scored 47.2 ml/kg.min; about the same as you. On the same week, I ran 18:09 5K (I was 5'8" and 170 lbs. then). I've seen over the last several years how you've improved solidly. About four years ago you ran two miles at about a 10:00 mile pace, and then an 8:00 mile a year or two ago. All the while as you put on more and more muscle! It's possible you could now do a perfect three mile run score (100 points for a 18:00 3 mile run) on a military fitness test.
I'm sorry but there's no way he can do an 18 minute 3 miles
I wish to do more video's with Devon, I love that type of content what you've done. You and Devon make me to wish to do an arm wrestling.
I never had an opportunity to compete on any arm wrestling competition but I wish so much also.
Couple things for the people in the comments.
Heart rate is completely individual. Theres no formula to figure out max heart rate, other than to do an individual exercise test. 220-age is NOT accurate whatsoever.
Lactate turn points are also individual depending on your fitness. Its not a linear scale. Pro endurance athletes can have the lt1 turn point very close to lt2 turn point.
Vo2 max values are based on oxygen uptake and weight. As your weight goes down your value tends to go up. However, as weight goes down so does power. That means your value will also change. Again, its not a linear scale. If he lost 50lbs tomorrow his value wouldn't go to 70. As his blood volume would decrease as well as other oxygen uptake parameters. It would probably be physically impossible for juji to get down to 150lbs in order to score a 75+ vo2 max. It would be nice to see the power numbers to get a clearer picture of potential. Basically you can't backwards calculate ultimate vo2 max by looking at how much weight you could lose. Unless its ALL fat and theres no muscle loss.
Top endurance athletes will test in the 60-70+ range with no training and No fitness background. It's largely geneticly determined. A jacked up ryan hall (fastest American marathon runner now weight lifter) will still score extremely high numbers. Even with the added weight. Numbers in the 70+ range are extremely rare.
You also don't need a particularly high vo2 max just to run a marathon or cycle 100 miles. There's plenty of marathon runners and cyclists with vo2 maxs in the 50s and lower. You need a high vo2 max to be FAST.
The 45+ vo2 juji got is really good for the general public but not great as an endurance athlete. Obviously hes not an endurance athlete so that doesn't really matter. It would be interesting to see how high he could go but that would require some serious weight loss and 10-20hr weeks on a bike or running. I would predict if he got down to 180-190 he'd be in the high 50 to low 60 range with a lot of proper training. Pushing 500watts is not easy even at 190lbs. Let alone 145-160 that you would need in a ramp test in order to score a 75+vo2max.
Good luck with your endurance training!
Do LT1 and LT2 correspond to the measurements from this VO2 max test (aerobic threshold and anaerobic threshold)?
Physiological adaptations are also specific to the mode of exercise they normally do. So it's not really weird for a marathon runner to not quite do as well as you would expect on one of those machines. Put them on a treadmill and you'll get results that more resemble what you would expect.
Happy 4th of July Juji ❤🎉
Interesting and impressive.
I always liked swimming laps after weight training. It felt like it helped open up my back range of motion.
Hell Yeh Juji!!!!!
💪💪💪💥💥💥 *JUJI!!!!!* Happy 4th bro 🇺🇲🎉
Happy 4th Devon's Forearm ☺
Million dollar man montage segment! Missed an opportunity to photoshop you into a hyperbolic time chamber or one of them healing pods from DBZ 😂
Oskar Svendsen, Cycling score 97.5 vo2max 😳
18 year old from Lillehammer, Norway. The test was conducted in Sept 2012 at the University College of Lillehammer by physiologist Joar Hansen. (from an article on procycling)
When they were gearing Juji up there, I couldn't help but think of The Cinco Food Tube commercial. Haha, but don't look that up!
Cutting weight really boosted my vo2max ridiculously, very little difference in my training but just through diet i went from good to superior in 3 years. (Rowing mainly)
I love that the guy said “who would have thunk”😂😂
I want to see a Wingate test next!
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INSANELY good quality materials and construction.
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Thanks Robert! They're not like sweat pants, and not like Juji pants. I think you will find a place for them in your daily wearable choices like I have... that's why I made them afterall. 😉😜
Their we go
juji is the big guy that wont gas easy!
I just measured mine but on the running. I have 192 (6'4'') with 110kgs or around 225. Even though we got a good VO2 unfortunately if we look at weight/watts we will be in disavantage (talking about running, cycling, etc). I got a lot better and went from a shitty VO2 to 45.5 in 2024. Things are a lot better, but there is a long way to go still. I got a Max HR of 189. Now using that with my cardiologist to get better training zones for improvement. Seems to have been paying off lately from 2023 to 2024. Hope to keep the same pace for 2025.
I want to do one of those tests. I don't trust my watch estimation.
Well done big guy.. 👏
I wonder what Juji's dad's stats are, and what traits he contributed to Juji.
Back in his prime, probably very good. I think he contributed stamina, long arms, big hands, and ridiculously good carbohydrate metabolism to me as traits. I haven't trained stamina intentionally since I was like 14 years old though, so I didn't use that predisposition... Anyway, he's 71 now. Next video has him in it. :-)
Mufudad is an absolute beast
@@jujimufuand good hair!
In form im about 71-72 vo2 max former crosscountry skiier, out of shap 60-65. 4x4 intervalls running at incline >5% is the best way to improve your vo2 max
XC skiers seem to always have insane VO2 maxes. Good stuff.
You can only improve your Vo2 max in a trained state by about 5-10% allegedly, its mostly genetic
@@thepeatboggy sure, maybe. but you can change your body composition, and that can change it more. Also 10% from what, if i didnt train all my life i would probably be in the 45s but i trained a good amount of intervalls, so om around 70. But what if i trained like a pro, i would probalbly be up around 75-80, thats way more then 10%
@@TheFlyWaier yeah the literature I’m on about is on a “trained state” so thats described as performance being limited by your VO2max score, an actual “ceiling” of your potential
The problem is that if you’re not “fit” as in possess the basic physiological adaptations in order to demonstrate your VO2max as best as possible then ur Vo2max is gonna be shite, cause other physiological problems are limiting you,
There is a pattern in unfit individuals where the vo2max, and co2 levels stay linear (like
In parallel) until failure, whereas in a “trained” individual there’ll be a sudden exponential change in the co2 and vo2 levels when close to failure, (over the athletes’ limit) if this pattern is seen we can say that the vo2 max level is close +/-5% to an accurate level of someones vo2max potential,
This type of score, can be changed by 5-10% over a lifetime. Cause it shows ur actual vo2max rather than some other system failing first.
I hope that makes sense lol its been a while since I wrote these essays,
The theoretical VO2max of someone is different from actual, because we can only measure what someone is capable of, rather than what their physiology should be able to produce
Lower intensity stairclimber, biking and walking my doge are great for zone 2
I was totes waiting for coach Greg to pop out of the shadows with an ad
@RealJujimufu oh yeah, if you're the real juji, what's my great aunt's middle name?
Happy 4th of July 🎉
Well I’m 32 and I do between 7000 - 11000 steps a day at my workplace, I do bodybuilding naturally and train 4 days per week only anaerobic, sessions are 1hr long and I weigh 93kg with an estimated 15-20% body fat. I have kids and I also study a lot. My heart rate at rest is around 57bpm and my 6 month heart rate range is 40- 185bpm. I would say my aerobic fitness is crap as a 2km fast jog was a killer. My Iwatch SE obviously isn’t that accurate but it estimates I’m at 38 Vo2 max. Not great in comparison to JU Ji but a sign that aerobic training with anaerobic training is possibly the way to go. P.S I’m a heavy caffeine drinker so my new aerobic weekly seshs with reduced caffeine drinks may see big changes
Some people excrete the excess lactic acid into their intestine to be recycled. Muscles also work better on low oxygen if you're in a fasted keto state and is how many people are able to climb Everest without an o2 mask. Combining this together might enable people to reach endurance levels that violate the typical expectations here.
This is supe cool but don’t forget higher then about 70 on v02max doesn’t equate much in the hyper performance athletes. There are usually other factors coming into play.
Very interesting, but this video felt like a Sienfeld documentary, with the good doctor being the "low talker".
I found it interesting that you have an absolute value of approx. 5L/min O2 uptake. if you would get back to your childhood weigth of maybe 70kg (total guess 😅) than you would have >70ml/min/kg which would be a good endurance athlete 😃 (like you refered in the vid). for me as a cyclist you are on par on the absolute value, but carrying way to much unnecessary muscle with you 😅 good amateur athlete around 4.5L/min, pro around 6.5L/min
what would be super interesting for me would be what was the power you were putting out at the different levels, usually with around 5L you would be in a Ballpark of 400-440w, were you on the same level?
it would be awesome to see you run some races in the future. maybe a marathon lol.
How many watts were you producing
Juji, I still have the coffee beans you sent me years ago I won in some giveaway.... I'm tempted to brew them and see what happens
I generally agree with what he was saying but the responder to calorie restriction and the statement at 15:45 does set off my quack alarms a bit. They could be out of context statements but they put me on guard.
I love the new JuJi without T JuJi for life
Exercise is my favorite drug 😎
I "faked" my way all through boot camp on anaerobic strenght alone. Lots of high volume weight training prior, and way too little cardio. I had lousy aerobic endurance. When we had to run with gas masks on is where I did best.
HELL YEAH MAN. ITS REALLY HOT HERE RIGHT NOW BUT STIL WORKING THROUGH IT
Juji try a marathon 💪🏽💥
enlarged heart is the reason the heart rate takes longer to rise, i have the same issue
I wonder how sprint swimmers and distance swimmers do
I kinda wish the shorts were a tad longer😅
Those are some 80s Zubaz looking pants ;)
Would be interesting to know how many liters of oxygen you were taking in. That takes the bodyweight factor out of the equation and you compare it to those "elite" endurance athletes. Point is that number doesn't vary all that much (genetic ability), but weight does vary
As someone who does physicals on many different types of people, many of whom are on Testosterone Replacement Therapy, Juji’s resting heart rate wasn’t great but VERY average with the general population! Most of the dudes on TRT I see are closer to 90-100bpm resting heart rate. Keep up the cardio Juji!
My resting heart rate is 60-70. Sleeping heart rate is high 40s low 50s. Heart rate recovery during training is very fast.
@@jujimufu that’s fantastic for someone who is “enhanced”! I’m amazed dude
They sell extensions for those chest straps that thing is clinging on for its life!
I hate this test lol good work, is say do swimming its full body
nice viddd
Is there any reason they chose to do this test on the bike? I thought the gold standard for VO2 Max tests was suppose to be a Bruce protocol on a treadmill so I am genuinely curious.
They mention in the video that the seat prevents falls when reaching their limit
I keep wondering how accurate things like smart watches are at measuring VO2. This test you did seems way more accurate.
I’m a lot healthier than I was a year ago, doing cardio 4/5x a week and my numbers haven’t changed from 35 so I doubt it’s accurate.
@@Jut1911 I've been up as high as 54 and I'm down to around 49 right now. This is with an Apple Watch 6. So it changes but it's hard to tell if there's some hidden changes in the algorithm with software upgrades or if my cardio is just going up and down constantly.
Hi there - Ima preface by saying that I've got a PhD in Human Physiology, and I perform exercise testing on a regular basis as part of my research. As a general rule of thumb, consider any kind of wearable device more of a "random number generator" than anything accurate. The colorimetric technology used in wearable devices for HR/oxygen Sat/most everything else is "good enough for the clinic", but not necessarily accurate. The technology is more meant to cue a physician to do a *real* test than be used as a number itself. For example, those oxygen saturation monitors you see that clip on someone's fingers? They're only accurate to within a few %. When we actually care about what the number is, we used much more advanced and much more accurate tools. For example, I've been involved in a validation study for those type of saturation monitors, and between two FDA approved devices there was a roughly 10% difference in the reported oxygen saturation.
Long story short - don't believe what your watch tells you.
I've seen a few videos where people have compared one or several smart watch estimates against a proper VO2max test, and from what I've seen the watches are generally pretty accurate. Within a few points most of the time.
Not very accurate in my experience. At the time I tested, Garmin said 54 and the lab said 64. But I think the trends are fairly close to reality.
Watts the FTP Man 😎, to have so much muscle Im really surprised its that high.
Just keeping that much mass alive takes alot of oxygen.
About how much time on the bike does this test take, in total?
Depends on the protocol and how long you go. Most maximal tests are stopped when either the patient decides to stop or the testers decide to stop it (usually when they see extreme fatigue or contraindications) I believe most of these tests are around 15 minutes (going up in intensity every 3 minutes).
I've always wanted to try this but I have a weird question.... Is it just me or does anyone else also not breath that much¿? Like I could be pedaling full power for a bit but I'm not breathing hard, I just take a deep breath every once in a while. Is that abnormal or am I just weird¿? 🤔
Great 🔥✨
nice video
What shirt is he wearing at the end? Looks pretty sweet.
Excellent is top 15%. My best Vo2 was 66.9 and honestly I felt like I was dog shit compared to people I competed against.
Interesting how low that is. It really is just one factor of fitness.
7:25 marathon runners have insane high vO2, and dont forget is genetic, and the test has a limit, when you reach your top, you can continue but your vo2 wont go higher
One step closer to be a Superhero Jujimufu
very interesting video 🫁💪
131 HR is anaerobic? I'm a little on the fence about that, because the HR zone listed itself on that paper is extremely wide compared to traditional HR zones actually used in aerobic training. It also sounds like he's grouping "threshold" effort with anaerobic effort, because you can hold 85% of your max HR for quite a while and not have it feel anaerobic.
I could be wrong, but from what I generally know about HR training, something seems a little off about the interpretation of the results. Nevertheless, pretty cool to see though from you!
This is the most accurate version. His analysis is from actual oxygen volume going in and CO2 exhaled.
The change in O2 in is where they actually measure specific aerobic to anerobic transition.
The research is a very, very rough (read almost garbage) estimate.
wow
Wondering how RED S would show in these tests.
How can he have such a low heart rate? 154 max and 131 for anaerobic threshold seem super low.
How tall is he
I think the trenbolone will also negatively effect the results
The cardio is what is going to save your life especially with the kitchen sink of "mufujuice" you're using- the cardio is a good thing and to hell with those beefcakes that avoid it... and then get gassed walking 100ft XD
according to the info brought by this doctor, as juji has excellent VO2 max (+350% longevity), astounding muscle mass (+450% longevity) and never smoked (+50%), his longevity will be extend by around 850%.
considering the average life expectancy in america is around 76 years old, then we can expect juji will live up to 76*8,5 = 646 years? lol
i better get myself in better condition aswell as i dont wanna miss the content you'll be putting up 600 years from now XD
It’s a relative increase of longevity not absolute, for example if risk of dying in the next year is 50% (say at age 80) then an 850% decrease might reduce the risk of death to approx 5%
We'll be watching him lifting in alpha centauri
@@Golabekrafts Yeah, I imagine we would also have to consider the conflict effect. The relationship between VO2 max and astounding muscle mass may not be as simple as adding or multiplying (Linear/Exponential). Ex: It could be 350% * 450% or 350% + 450% or a(350% + 450%), where a is the constant multiplier across the relationship, in general. Ex: a(350% + 450%) --> 500%, 600%.
@@Golabekrafts Oh ok that makes sense.
I was obviously joking but I genuinely did not understand how those increases were supposed to be applied in practice. Ty :)
@@Golabekrafts Thanks for clarifying. Yes, it is a relative increase. Still very significant nonetheless! Dr. G
Guy listens to one Peter Attia podcast and starts his own clinic.
Interesting comment. We have been on the cutting edge of precision medicine since I opened Vitality 15 years ago. Dr. Galvin 😀
I think I would find it annoying that they are having this calm conversation next to me while I'm gasping for air in that mask. 👿🙈
If you want some really useful data to guide your cardio you might want to look into getting a decent lactate profile done. If you run for cardio I would have liked to do the test on a treadmill, as the results can be sports specific. Your VO2max on a bike and your VO2max on a treadmill might be different.
I don't agree with his conclusions about crossfitters vs marathoners, but it would be a wall of text to go into that. 😂😂
I wasn't bothered at all. I'm used to filming TH-cam videos during workouts, used to training without music due to copy strike risk, used to filming and narrating dialogue between sets while trying to catch my breath. 😉 And yes, I think the lactate profile test was another one I heard about that may give a better picture. Thanks for watching and for the thoughtful, sensible comment my friend. ☺
@@jujimufu Glad to hear it didn't bother you, and that the mind is as strong and focused as the body! 👍Really loved the video and find the intersection between strength and endurance really intriguing. I think aerobic capacity is underrated for a lot of strength athletes.
I applaud you for this. All the gym bunnies on TH-cam I know avoid this, even the ones who say they do cardio.
how old is that guy?
I always thought VO2 Max was just another preworkout.
G02 Max LOL
ominous looking mask... enter Darth Mufu!
Ever since that one video with Stefi I figured he was so upset with his cardiovascular health that he decided to fix that and build it up
Ooo. I missed that one! Send a girl the link? Love Dr. Stefi and Juji.
They talk about CrossFitters having a tougher mindset, but they miss something. Crossfitters are more muscular, and thus, they have more oxygen-utilizing mass. With zero cardio training, just by increasing muscle mass in the working muscle groups, people increase their VO2 Max. Jujimufu has enormous legs. Mind you, his upper body muscle mass isn't contributing to that, so it's a bit of a tradeoff.
To add, I bet you a paycheck that if Jujimufu did it on a rower, it would be higher since he would use his legs and his back musculature.
Juji, bro, find someone that can help you learn to run more efficiently. That could be a good video.
Isn't that a really low HR max for that age? How is he supposed to get to 170?
Max heart rate decreased with age and you typically won’t reach the max unless you’re absolute balls to the wall
@@SeventhCircle77 The formula is 220 minus age. Look at the second paper where it shows his zone 5 at over 170. He was far away from that.
Could be just that he had too much lactate in his muscles and couldn't push further. Especially when he has all that mass everywhere that needs blood.
That shows that you can't just look at these values isolted. Zone 2 is deteriorating after time. Especially with such mass.
lol 400m kills me every time
HR monitor just doesnt fit with you lats beast lol
Why does his voice sound like Joe Rohan Ai 😂?