How Dogen MASTERED Japanese

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    In this interview, Dogen breaks down exactly how he learned Japanese and how he got FLUENT in Japanese. If you're learning Japanese this interview is a MUST listen if you want to speak Japanese like Dogen. We had a great conversation talking about his Japanese journey, thoughts on how Japan has changed since he first studied abroad there, and advice for those who are moving to Japan or learning Japanese. If you like the podcast please subscribe, we have a lot more podcasts coming in the future! Bonus clips are on Patreon (Link Below) and hope you guys enjoy the podcast!
    Outline:
    0:00 Teaser/Intro
    1:12 Dogen Introduction
    6:55 How Dogen got into Martial Arts
    11:55 Experience Studying Japanese in College
    13:15 Classroom Study versus Immersion
    15:40 Graduating from Nihongo Jozu
    20:08 How Japan has changed since Dogen's Study Abroad
    27:15 Dogen and his Business Partner JP
    28:41 How does Dogen come up with video ideas?
    33:25 Dogen's goals for the next 5-10 years
    36:05 Dogen's advice for those going to Japan
    42:47 Dogen's message to the KoreKara Listeners
    44:41 Outro/Blooper
    #LearnJapanese #Dogen #NihongoJozu

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  • @KoreKaraPodcast
    @KoreKaraPodcast  6 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

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  • @default632
    @default632 2 ปีที่แล้ว +215

    Dogen speaks English? Nice

    • @SkarTisu
      @SkarTisu 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +14

      英語上手!

    • @derpz_
      @derpz_ 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      ​@@SkarTisuyay I could read that without translate 😂

    • @weirdear4536
      @weirdear4536 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@@derpz_what jlpt level are you

    • @plasmodius9449
      @plasmodius9449 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      ​@@weirdear4536pretty sure even N5 level learners are able to read that

    • @itsglby
      @itsglby 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      @@SkarTisuwhat does english up hand mean 😭😭

  • @Bento_Club
    @Bento_Club 2 ปีที่แล้ว +181

    Amazing podcast with a true legend in the Japanese learning community

  • @AusJapan
    @AusJapan ปีที่แล้ว +236

    When Dogen says 'the difference between modern Japanese and traditional Japanese', it's exactly the same as 'traditional English and meme English'. It's just the case that young people these days can talk almost 100% in memes and the older generation would not have a bloody clue what they are saying.

    • @Im-BAD-at-satire
      @Im-BAD-at-satire ปีที่แล้ว +10

      I'm a young person yet I speak/type English semiformally to formally. I'm not familiar enough with meme speak.
      Although I recognize that. I should continue trying to figure out what way of learning is best for me, I know my memory is retentive in a way where I can learn kanjis without drilling it in; with more complicated kanji however I do have to do slight bit of drilling.

    • @phylocybe_
      @phylocybe_ ปีที่แล้ว +30

      @@Im-BAD-at-satire meme speak is overrated. It's fun to talk like idiots with friends but it's almost always better to type semifornally just due to clarity.

    • @whannabi
      @whannabi ปีที่แล้ว +13

      wdym that's straight up cap fr fr.

    • @artum1s_550
      @artum1s_550 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      @@whannabi they really be capitalizing their letters. like bro who they think they are

    • @vadrr-animeonpiano
      @vadrr-animeonpiano ปีที่แล้ว +2

      The word is “slang”

  • @tonoshikikai
    @tonoshikikai 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +37

    The part about his major change in college speaks to me. I was majoring in computer science and discovered I could do it but I hated it. Switched to Japanese and every said stuff like "but think of the money!". Turns out I loved Japanese and while I do not make big bucks I actually get to enjoy my work!
    We need more stories like this!

  • @JoseContreras-vp6qn
    @JoseContreras-vp6qn 2 ปีที่แล้ว +65

    Wow you guys finally got Dogen! Looking forward to more podcasts with Japanese learners

    • @KoreKaraPodcast
      @KoreKaraPodcast  2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      We have a lot more guests lined up so make sure to subscribe!

  • @elizabethh.6189
    @elizabethh.6189 2 ปีที่แล้ว +26

    Finally got Dogen on! Great interview guys!!

  • @paulwalther5237
    @paulwalther5237 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    Making Japanese people laugh definitely improves people’s impression of your language level. I struggled with this a lot when I was in Japan and it drove me nuts how other people who could make jokes in Japanese were really well regarded and yet I studied so much more. I’m now finally able to make people laugh using Japanese and I can tell this gives them a better impression of my language skills.

  • @japanesereadingandwriting
    @japanesereadingandwriting 2 ปีที่แล้ว +18

    すごいです。

  • @law1775
    @law1775 2 ปีที่แล้ว +21

    Great stuff

  • @JTSoftware
    @JTSoftware 2 ปีที่แล้ว +17

    Wow, what a wonderful interview! (Took a year to come to my TH-cam front page.) I've only seen a few of his videos, but before, Dogen seemed like some sort of Japanese-speaking demigod, but this shows him to be a very warm and down-to-Earth human. Thanks for sharing!

    • @holliswilliams8426
      @holliswilliams8426 ปีที่แล้ว

      ''Japanese-speaking demigod'' what does that even mean lol?

  • @jouzu
    @jouzu ปีที่แล้ว

    A few of the things said in this were things I really needed to hear right now, not even in regard to learning Japanese, so thanks.

  • @allencard3981
    @allencard3981 2 ปีที่แล้ว +17

    So happy to see the podcast growing in quality of production alongside the conaistency of interesting content. Thanks for bringing Dougen on! It was a great show guys

  • @jirojapandaily6751
    @jirojapandaily6751 2 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    Thank you for uploading video.
    I’m learning English. Your videos are helpful.
    I enjoyed a lot.

    • @KoreKaraPodcast
      @KoreKaraPodcast  2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Glad you found it helpful! You can also consider joining our discord and talk to us or other people in our community anytime you want

  • @richtea87
    @richtea87 2 ปีที่แล้ว +23

    Great interview! 👍🏻

    • @KoreKaraPodcast
      @KoreKaraPodcast  2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Appreciate the support! Be sure to subscribe for more!

  • @raphaelo7162
    @raphaelo7162 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    great music choice, loved this vid :)

  • @SmartJapanHacks
    @SmartJapanHacks 2 ปีที่แล้ว +17

    Great interview! Turns out I didn't know that much about Dogen as I though. Never thought he was a martial artist 👊

    • @KoreKaraPodcast
      @KoreKaraPodcast  2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Go check out the very first video on his channel!

    • @SmartJapanHacks
      @SmartJapanHacks 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@KoreKaraPodcast Nice! Wonder what kind of looks he would have got if he did that dressed as a ninja in Japan 😆There's a video idea for him if he ever runs out

  • @kirby7379
    @kirby7379 ปีที่แล้ว

    Dogen with the self-care suggestions yessss. 💕

  • @taishoplasma
    @taishoplasma 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I'm on a journey of learning now. This is cool

  • @YuKnowho-99
    @YuKnowho-99 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I loved this video

  • @trailrunningexperience496
    @trailrunningexperience496 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I used to live near where Dogen lives in Japan. I was in beautiful Yufuin. Found him when searching for vloggers in Oita. Super guy! Nice one guys!

  • @-sincerelyelle9182
    @-sincerelyelle9182 2 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    hey just wanted to say, I don't even study japanese and I'm not planning to but i do enjoy watching your videos guys, good job & with the legend dogen himself!! 💖

    • @KoreKaraPodcast
      @KoreKaraPodcast  2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Thank you for this comment! Just curious what sort of podcasts/interviews/videos would you like to see the most?

    • @-sincerelyelle9182
      @-sincerelyelle9182 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@KoreKaraPodcast Tbh I have no preferences, I enjoy this current style of podcast-y interviews kind of like this one and the one you had with Matt. Very casual but still informative ~
      edit: I also like the videos with the two of you guys chatting :)

  • @KanjiEater
    @KanjiEater 2 ปีที่แล้ว +54

    Nice work korekara! You guys are getting some very obscure guests these days.

    • @KoreKaraPodcast
      @KoreKaraPodcast  2 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      You know how it is, gotta support the small creators!
      /s

  • @TomKilworth
    @TomKilworth 2 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    The other thing with AJATT is that a lot of people don't have life circumstances that allow it to happen. It's hard to live life "in Japanese" when I'm helping my daughter with her maths homework or teaching my piano students xD

    • @phylocybe_
      @phylocybe_ ปีที่แล้ว +1

      True or at work.

    • @holliswilliams8426
      @holliswilliams8426 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      In academia there is a problem that you want to learn the language of the country, but all papers are usually written in English, classes are usually given in English etc. so you can never get away from the English language.

  • @Alex-du7ue
    @Alex-du7ue 2 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    Very relaxing and interesting! Keep up the good work

  • @Ninjashifter
    @Ninjashifter 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Wish we heard more from Eric. Great podcast.

    • @KoreKaraPodcast
      @KoreKaraPodcast  2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Appreciate the feedback, I'll definitely speak more in the next episode! - Eric

  • @SrNeoxNGT1kk
    @SrNeoxNGT1kk 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    THIS was a podcast!

  • @ApteraEV2024
    @ApteraEV2024 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Subbed to All!🎉

  • @default632
    @default632 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    His having kids in Japan was based on real experience? Wow. I am learning a lot about Dogen

  • @quicksilver693
    @quicksilver693 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    The way he said karate wow!! Just sounds so professional

    • @j.s.6654
      @j.s.6654 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      It was actually kind of cringe, no offense. His Japanese is good, but he should’ve pronounce karate the way Americans pronounce it. It’s akin to pronouncing Los Angeles as Los Ang-helis. In the context of speaking English, karate should be pronounced karate, not カラテ

    • @TheKurtPrice
      @TheKurtPrice 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @@j.s.6654 but why?

  • @idunno966
    @idunno966 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I love how he forgot the word reminisce 😅

  • @smudge78
    @smudge78 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great interview, thanks! Does anyone know the name of the band that Dogen was really into and wrote a letter to?

  • @JRBison23
    @JRBison23 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Loved this video and love Dogen. I thought it was interesting when he said a lot of foreigners come to Japan excited to be the cool, one foreigner that many Japanese people will have met for the first time... I truly wonder if that comes from growing up as a person of the majority race (white) in his home country (USA) and hearing the same sentiment from other white American expats. As a racial minority in the U.S., I am used to standing out in good and bad ways for my appearance and culture -- certainly not as much if I lived in a more homogenous country like Japan, but still. When I studied abroad in Japan in 2010, I just continued to carry that assumption with me. Not as a "cool" factor but more like, "I need to be extra careful of my conduct." I wonder if part of that was due to my ethnicity's less than stellar history with Japan. Still, I love Japan, Japanese culture, and Dogen, and generally I was treated well by Japanese people -- just wanted to point out this alternate perspective.

  • @MrCarlton
    @MrCarlton ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Would be interesting to hear recommendations for Japanese literature to read for N3, N2 level studiers

  • @artemisDev
    @artemisDev ปีที่แล้ว +10

    I wonder which band was the one that inspired him.

  • @KoreKaraPodcast
    @KoreKaraPodcast  2 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    Check out our Interview with Eden Kai from Terrace House! th-cam.com/video/UHXrXh9CWqA/w-d-xo.html

  • @miyazakitsunoshima2362
    @miyazakitsunoshima2362 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Dogen-San!

  • @ApteraEV2024
    @ApteraEV2024 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    18:50 what is that NokanNi??

  • @DengueBurger
    @DengueBurger 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Regarding English loan words: this became really clear to me watching Evangelion and then watching the first Rebuild movie of Evangelion; way more loan words!
    I think Japanese people consciously or unconsciously see it as cool/modern and the way forward, unfortunately.

    • @DengueBurger
      @DengueBurger 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      In the other rebuilds though, I feel like there are fewer loan words, but maybe I just got used to hearing them and was just trying to enjoy and understand the movies

  • @ILikeGrapefruit
    @ILikeGrapefruit ปีที่แล้ว

    Dogen!!!

  • @ApteraEV2024
    @ApteraEV2024 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    45:10 DOoooooRuuuukan!!😂

  • @jf8050
    @jf8050 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    I became fluent in two weeks, just 5 minutes a day while pooping.

  • @robertstump7899
    @robertstump7899 ปีที่แล้ว

    Just thinking of what sort of comedy TH-cam Dogen would have if he stuck with Martial Arts tricking instead of Japanese lol

  • @kyarailumi
    @kyarailumi 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    36:22 save it to watch it later

  • @nelsoncho
    @nelsoncho 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

    Tips to learn Japanese more efficiently:
    - Do NOT attempt to learn more than one language at once. If in doubt, learn the one that you're most interested in.
    - Repeat every letter/word/sentence out loud to get a closer pronunciation (tip from Teuida).
    - Avoid trying to learn everything at one sitting to prevent yourself from forgetting words.
    - Try to memorize kana/kanji stroke order for more efficient writing.
    - If you feel unmotivated and/or tired, take a break and proceed your learning after a while and remember: you can do it!
    - Watch anime and practice singing in Japanese. They will help you to increase your vocabulary.
    - Try not to skip the difficult parts of learning. They may be essential.
    - Get yourself a partner conversation or use Teuida!
    - Use your Japanese knowledge in daily occasions (Example: whenever you're going upstairs, count every step in Japanese).
    - After finishing your studying session, write out everything you have learned so far, physically (pencil and paper) or virtually (note pad app on phone/computer)
    - Keep watching this video as many times as possible for days or weeks. It is not possible to learn everything in a few moments.
    Now, I wish you, the reader, a very happy learning, do not give up and give it your all! がんばってください! 💪✌️

  • @takashinishida9113
    @takashinishida9113 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Why your pen name is the same with historically famous Zen Buddhist monk?

  • @sethemmons3662
    @sethemmons3662 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    th-cam.com/video/29lKYyV10hs/w-d-xo.html
    Here, Dogen discusses that creative writing/comedy as his "number one strength", and that it would be "the best thing for everyone if I continue to pursue that". I thought that was an interesting statement because it made me think about the influence of group-mentality being ingrained in the culture of Japan. As a foreigner wishing to integrate into another country, his commitment to Japanese societal norms should be lauded.

    • @KoreKaraPodcast
      @KoreKaraPodcast  2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      It's really amazing to see how he had that single-minded focus right from the beginning and it's clear that that was what lead him to his success

  • @igorjee
    @igorjee ปีที่แล้ว

    18:00

  • @shadowmod3
    @shadowmod3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Was a big JAV fan in my teens grew out of that as I got older and turned into a weeb.

  • @nicoleyoshihara4011
    @nicoleyoshihara4011 ปีที่แล้ว

    Dogen!^_^

  • @paulwalther5237
    @paulwalther5237 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I think Dogen’s TH-cam audience at least initially was the Japanese language learning community but now that he’s making jokes about Japanese life and culture in general, and it’s in Japanese, I’d think Japanese people would really enjoy his content.

    • @selueen3028
      @selueen3028 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      looks like they do! Some of his shorts have more japanese comments now haha

  • @user-hy2ju1sb3s
    @user-hy2ju1sb3s ปีที่แล้ว

    China sure is making alot of entities nervous lol

  • @matzekatze7500
    @matzekatze7500 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    What are jozu moments?😂

    • @KoreKaraPodcast
      @KoreKaraPodcast  2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      its when you are finally good at japanese 😂

  • @phillipgregory9671
    @phillipgregory9671 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Who was the band?

    • @KoreKaraPodcast
      @KoreKaraPodcast  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Blackpink

    • @phillipgregory9671
      @phillipgregory9671 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@KoreKaraPodcast a korean group inspired him to learn Japanese?

    • @ralphneelands3990
      @ralphneelands3990 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      I’m going to guess…The Brilliant Green ?

    • @Deckbark
      @Deckbark ปีที่แล้ว

      ​@@phillipgregory9671 yes 🗿

  • @chunligio
    @chunligio 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    えーどうげん英語話すことができるの??

  • @Deckbark
    @Deckbark ปีที่แล้ว

    Karate

  • @marvinmateo2416
    @marvinmateo2416 ปีที่แล้ว

    at 31:00, Dogen reminds me how he started thinking like Jordan Peterson! cool!

  • @SIGNALacquired
    @SIGNALacquired 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Yor Engrishu verry guud !

  • @RockChampEnglish
    @RockChampEnglish 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Why dun he learn chinese then?

  • @Handles_are_garbage
    @Handles_are_garbage 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Respect to him for what he's achieved but my word is Dogen dull.

  • @Starstreak170
    @Starstreak170 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Is it that impressive for someone who studied Japanese in college and lived in Japan to be fluent in Japanese?

    • @TomAnderson7
      @TomAnderson7 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +11

      Most foreigners don’t reach this level of fluency though. He’s incredible.

    • @Starstreak170
      @Starstreak170 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@TomAnderson7 Meh, if you studied a language for years at university and then lived in the country for years, something has gone very wrong if you're not fluent.

    • @TomAnderson7
      @TomAnderson7 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      @@Starstreak170 I’m saying there are many levels of fluency. It depends on the amount of talent. There are people who lived in Japan for 10 years but still struggle with pronouncing words correctly.

    • @ErikaCartet
      @ErikaCartet 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      @@Starstreak170i met people while in college in japan who were born there to expat families and weren’t fluent, only speaking at a very basic level. so it’s definitely possible lol, people like dogen are seen as impressive because a lot of people don’t actually practice the self-discipline to achieve fluency and essentially waste their time there

  • @joosefkaarioc1222
    @joosefkaarioc1222 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    ESV - Deut. 27:7 (ESVS)
    and you shall sacrifice peace offerings and xshall eat there, and you xshall rejoice before the LORD your God.
    Josh. 8:31 (ESVS)
    just as Moses the servant of the LORD had commanded the people of Israel, as it is written in the Book of the Law of Moses, “an altar of uncut stones, upon which no man has wielded an iron tool.” And they offered on it burnt offerings to the LORD and sacrificed peace offerings. - FIN YEAR 2022

    • @joosefkaarioc1222
      @joosefkaarioc1222 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      ShinkyoDoyaku (same) - Deut. 27:7 (SHINKYO)
      また、和解の献げ物を屠ってそれにあずかり、あなたの神、主の御前で喜び祝いなさい。
      Josh. 8:31 (SHINKYO)
      この祭壇は、主の僕モーセがイスラエルの人々に命じ、モーセの教えの書に記されたとおり、鉄の道具を使わない自然のままの石で造られた。彼らはその上で、主に焼き尽くす献げ物と和解の献げ物をささげた。 - FIN YEAR 2022 -