Why the Null Arcs Are Criminally Underrated by Clone Wars Fans
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Please tell me they won't "kidify" it (though Disney cartoons these days are surprisingly mature at the right moments; how about an animated show involving these troopers?)
Geetsly : nulls were underrated
Senate commando : wat about me
@@junaidaldeen529 Oh, I forgot those guys.
Nice job 👍
Geetsly's Question, I was a under the impression that the elite soldiers in the original clone wars show were regular arc troopers over the null arcs, being led by Fordo, not Ordo. I ask because you used pictures from the clone wars show, showing the arcs and labeling them with the null arcs names at 8:46
The bad batch is super cool but I would much rather have a series about the commandos or the nulls personally
They’re unique in their own way, the bad batch is a great option because they’re more than just clones. I’d love to see a series that changes squads of commandos every few episodes or every season in order to keep it fresh
@@geetslys good point! Disney should just hire Karen Travis as a writer and make our dreams a reality lol.
I agree. Personally not a fan of the bad batch. Feel it takes away from the normal Jango template clones and takes away from the best we have seen like the Nulls and Delta Squad and how bad ass they are. Just takes their spot and shows them up. Like they are clones but they dont have the look or feel. All of them look like random dudes who made their living as badasses and then came together as a squad. They could have just done Null ARCs instead of this Bad Batch bs. Just takes away from what they already had. Make a new and completely useless team. Like why not use that arc to show off Delta Squad or Nulls or something we havent seen. Nah heres a squad of a bunch of rando clones. Trash tbh. Hated it.
@@jimtaylor527 so because they’re being realistic and putting in the fact that there’s things called genetic defects especially with a newly invented cloning system, it’s bull shit?
@@jimtaylor527 lol finish it all off with that bro, completely nulifies your point because I know what nulls and alphas are and it s they’re jango clones gone wrong. Also they were cloned from Jango, one of them is literally a regular clone with enhanced senses and hair. That’s why they’re called the bad batch and not ‘the irregulars’ or some shit. They literally all resemble Jango. Now I have a question for you, are you 12 and don’t know what the bad batch are? Because the only one who sounds like an idiot who doesn’t know what they’re talking about, is you.
Somebody's finally talking about legends clones. Some clone wars fans dont even know the existence of the null arcs
Echo Productions Right? They’re without a douubt one of the best parts of Star Wars EU.
when i first read her book i fell in love with the null almost instantly they are amazing and when i try talking about them no one know them and its sad because of who they are and what they did :(
I've been researching and watching everything related to the Clone Wars and I never heard of the Null arks in my entire life and by watching this video I figure it out it's pure badassery
@@dumbstuffmask9736 u have to read a couple of books the first one is called republic commando hard contact
Yea I never new about them till today
geetsly's "the null arcs are criminally underrated by clone wars fans"
me: *quotes plo koon* "not to me"
But sir, we’re just legends clones, we’re meant to be underrated!
Geetsly’s: Not to me.
*daddy plo*
@@geetslys same and I love your channel
Ah yes, the nulls, Kal Skirata, and omega squad. Best book series ever.
Shame the last two books and Imperial Commando: 501st just had to ruin the RC storyline with its overuse of shock value and demonizing the Jedi way too much for logic to handle.
@@michaelandreipalon359 True...
@@zombiemaster4525 Thanks.
What are these books all called if I may ask?
NXAV Republic Commandos
Null arcs are only underrated by the producers. We love them.
Well this video is gonna be loved by the people in the discord server.
I wonder if it’s my discord... discord.gg/Geetslys
@@geetslys Yours is the only one I know of where the people love Nulls more than their own family members.
not part of Geetsly's server, but i still love these 6 badass clones, they are smarter and stronger then even the normal ARCs pitty Traviss is so stingy with them.
Dude, the Republic Commando Series are my favorite part of Star Wars!
We all wish we got more from it
@@geetslys Yes we do.
It’s a shame Traviss was so stingy with the Null-ARCs, a TV series featuring them would have been incredible
Alec Medeiros
She would‘ve liked to continue her series and even make it into a show no doubt, but she wouldn‘t let the people who were in charge at LucasArts back then change the essence of her novels. If they‘d gotten their wish Ordo and his brothers would be PG-13 and nothing more than empty husks of what they‘re supposed to be.
@@violentscorl697 She was also not a fan of the jedi, not at all. Giving how the clones were all best friends with the jedi in tcw i think it is clear why she don't want her creation beeing part of this new "canon"
@@marckrieger3277 which ironically adds to the reasons why we should get a show featuring the Nulls. That's a perspective we who have read the books have, but no one else does. Ideally, we'd get a series shot like the Mandalorian - small set, mostly done in Unreal, with some very up close and personal action. A Republic Commando series could totally achieve that, and simultaneously target a more mature audience. These books are just begging to be made into a tv show.
Disney is the real perpetrator, they always have been! Travis had a chance to save her clones from ruination and she took it, if kal was their dad, then travis was their mother the situation was shitty but she did what she could!
@@BlueTeam-John-Fred-Linda-Kelly
Tcw was made before Disney took over.
Makes you wonder if any other Nulls aside from Ordo fought against the Empire.
All of them did
@@horizonnb457 I know that Ordo lived. What about the others? They also survived?
@@thesecondromuluan8216 Yes, all 6 of them deserted the army during Order 66 and lived on Mandalore with the rest of their family
They wouldn’t have fought against the empire unless found and recognised as deserters, otherwise they would have lived on Mandalor for the rest of their lives without a care in the world for the galaxies problems
@@thesecondromuluan8216 All 6 NULLs and members from other republic commando squadrons formed clan skirata on mandalore.
I'm sure Old Man Rex and his brothers are kicking themselves after learning about the Null Clones' haven for deserters
Dude in the thumbnails going to straight up scalp a droid
A mans gotta get his intelligence
@@geetslys he looks badass
Well this is war and pretty much anything goes.
He needs 500 separatists scalps
Dr. Bright ur not allowed to be on TH-cam it’s against the 05 councils wishes
The Nulls are so bad ass, wish we had seen them in the clone wars
They'd be butchered and wouldn't work at all in that show
I'm sad that the Karen Traviss Commando series got cancelled. Though the Clone Wars show was good, I still might've preferred that the book series to be Canon.
I treat this like canon.
Vincent Chen Same. I would’ve loved to see these characters be expanded on.
I would’ve loved to see how Captain Maze and General Zey got to be where they were. I would’ve loved to see more of Omega and Delta Squads‘s missions.
This novel series is imho a thousand times superior to the TCW we got.
KIBUKAJ me too, though i like characters like ahsoka and captain rex from the Disney canon one.
KIBUKAJ I like to fit it into my head canon, which is mostly Disney canon with a few sprinklings of legends. Omega, delta, and the bulls are canon, and Star killer is an inquisitor.
Honestly, it can very well be canon. Most of it is characters that aren’t used anywhere else and all the events fit into the clone wars fine
Reason Disney didn't like the null ARC's and replace them with the Bad Batch is they needed to sell toys and appearance wise the bad batch has more variety.
I still like the Nulls better they had more personality rather than a gimmick Disney wants to sell.
But the bad batch came out before Disney purchased it... they have unfinished episodes where they come out and in fact Disney remastered their whole Arc.
To be fair the fucked up ARC Troopers in general in the show pretty good. Alpha and Null Classes are the only real ARCs
Yeah disney and lucas has been always liked that the intimidating troopers like those strawberry troopers in ros were just to sell toys
Stacked out phase 1 arc troopers would definitely sell better for me at least but then again I’m a sucker for phase 1 clone armor
@@jimmygee3219 amen to that
Kal'Buir wouldn't let them be ground into protein paste.
Null ARCs > Everyone
With the exception of Sand, That business on Cato Nemodia, and the high ground
@@geetslys True, this should do us over on the Discord a good few months before we beg for another Null video
Geetsly's no that business on Cato Neimodia doesn't... it doesn't count
I think you forget that Fordo is one of the two best clones.
You mean everyone in their time.
Man I wish Karen was able to finish the series
"These Clones were as close to pure Jango as you could get." no no no no, they were Jango fett, only genetically improved.
I'd personally argue the Alpha ARCs were the closest to a pure jango fett clone as jango trained the Alpha's himself, the Null's were more like Kal Skirata but instead they look like Jango Fett.
FINALLY!! The Nulls get their due from a Star Wars channel!! They were like the Jason Bourne's of the Clone Wars. Great vid!
Best book series i have ever read sad the last book wasnt published and it all being deemed legends...
Mateo Helm just pretend its canon like ne. This deries is too good to be treated like this.
@@violentscorl697 yes I do but that also meant that we won't get any more content for it
Karen Travis's novels from Hard Contact to imperial Commandos was some of the best clone wars novels..
Yes another Arc trooper video!!!
The Arcs are my favorite clones.
They’re everyone’s favourite
Null-Class ARC Troopers: True bombad troopers
Karen Traviss' Clone Wars storyline was really good and I think Filoni should've built upon it more
These clones are Mandalorians in all but name basically. I love their stories especially Kal in Bloodlines alongside Boba Fett. He has a super cool part in that book which relates directly to Co Si and her work. I doubt I spelled her name right but whatever. The Clone Wars fits really well into that story imo.
My main costume is Captain Ordo, barely anyone recognises him! Clearly not enough people read the RC novels haha
Sad, one of my top three favorite clones, or should I say mandalorians
Their loss mate, should be essential reading for any star wars fan. Especially fans of the mando'ade. Bit of luck and maybe filoni will rescue clan skirata and return them to there rightful place in canon
@@martinmolloy3544 now why would he do that? He had zero respect for Travis and her stories when making TCW (which had zero respect for pretty much everything that predated it) so makes you think he has any respect for her characters? He doesn’t. Filoni hated the EU!!!!! Imo TCW was the Sequel Trilogy before the Sequel Trilogy in terms of continuity and quality.
You forgot to mention Bardan Jusik, Later Bardan Skirata. Jedi Human Male that deserted the Jedi to join Null Squad. My favorite character in Null.
He's talking about the clones, and not the others that are in the Clan.
These 6 are my boys, I felt bad for them from the beginning. Glad that there are many others who appreciate them as much as I do.
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The null class were always my favorite growing up I liked the red ones cause that was my favorite color 😂
Null arcs are my favorite in the Republic commando books series, I only wished that they put them in the clone wars.
No, no.
They should have thier own series!
zoe Hutson If they‘d done that, they would‘ve drained the essence that made them so awesome by removing Mandalorians as they truly are and replacing them by the BS pacifist/terrorist split we see during TCW.
I wish we had gotten Traviss‘ version of clone troopers in a more mature TV show that tackled death and especially the enslavement of the clone troopers in-depth instesd of the children‘s show with a gust of mature themes sprinkled in.
ViolentScorl that is true if they were put TCW
This begs the question, how much of the Clone Wars did the Nulls actually get to see?
Did they see all the horrible things both sides did, including the treatment of Clones? Or did they all see a little of the good and compassionate side, as seen by how some Clones, mainly the 501st, 212th, and Wolf Pack were treated by their leaders?
And how did all of this color their views on everything?
ZexalBrony479 the Nulls definitely knew that not every Jedi treated their troops like dirt, but in their opinion that didn’t make the clones‘ enslavement any less of a crime (I gotta agree with that). They wanted none of it , which is why they only listened to Kal Skirata and no other being.
Good questions
@@violentscorl697 Kind of makes you wonder about the kind of conversations the Nulls or any Clones under a Jedi that treated them like dirt had if they ever met a unit of Clones that had a good leader that genuinely cared for them. The conversations must have been awkward.
@@temporalclonecaptain219 Thank you.
@@zexalbrony4799 your welcome twi.....us clones are always here for ya
I always love hearing the "Attention sargent on deck!"
These are some of the best Star Wars soldiers and characters I have ever met, thank you very much for showing me these fascinating clones
I recently read the Star Wars novel Order 66. It has to be one of my favorite Star Wars novels alongside the Thrawn Trilogy.
Hugh Hammons it provided something I have always wanted to see: Order 67, and _not_ from the perspective of a Jedi!
Wait there is a capt.Fordo AND a capt.Ordo?
I had to do a double take with that name
In fact the left picture is two times Ordo. I know it, because it shows myself and a friend of mine wearing our Ordo costumes (501st Legion German Garrison members).
However he orriginally intended to build Fordo instead of Ordo and changed his mind lateron haha :D
Always has been
*pew*
LOL
It would be great if these same exact characters could make be in the mandolorian se2 and would make sense
Feel like Dave Filoni should’ve made a show about different elite clone squads, including Delta Squad, the Nulls, The Bad Batch and more
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Got himself a Finance Baddie? Legendary 🗿
Most people would be a clone commando or a clone pilot or some sort of officer.. not me I'd rather be an ARC trooper
“ARC troopers follow orders, hevy”
@@loicb4880 what's wrong following orders
Hey, turns out, that the thumbnail shows a friend of mine and myself in our null ARC costumes on the left (501st legion members from germany).
I really like your videos but it is rather confusing to see yourself in your TH-cam-feed O.o
Btw. Where did you get the picture from? Must have been CCXP-Germany last year. We wore the same costume that day.
I’d like to know more about a special class of clones that were tasked with hunting down clone deserters. I have no idea what they’re called, and I don’t think most Star Wars fans know about them. Would be interesting.
This was one of your most interesting videos to me, by the way. Keep up the good work.
Covert Ops. Not only this, but all kind of dirty job. Killing unwanted people, sabotaging within the Republic... Trained by Jaing and Prudii. (N-10, N-5).
They were known as Covert Ops Clone Troopers and were a extremely secretive subject of the clone assassins. They reported only to The Supreme Chancellor and ABSOLUTELY NO ONE else.
@@kibukaj2956 also by Ordo and Mereel
@@kibukaj2956 Weren’t they called Clone Shadow Troopers?
@@MrOiram46 nah
I am extremely glad that you have made this video going in depth about the Null class ARC Troopers. There is hardly and videos out there about them at all. Even for the few that talk about them just gloss over them very briefly. Finally glad that you are giving them their due Geetsly.
I'd really like to know more about Venku Skirata and everyone else in Clan Skirata after Order 66.
jwalden91lx *Kad ;)
I hear Traviss was involved with writing the legacy novels, which focused on Han and Leia‘s children, who wanted to stop one of their siblings turning evil or something. And to train the girl Jaina went to Mandalore to train with the best Jedi Killers next to the Sith, where she also met people from Clan Skirata! Haven’t read it myself, but there is more of Clan Skirata‘s fate sprinkled in there.
Only the OG Clone Wars fans remember
I am also super hyped because I just got the entire Republic Commando Novel series. I read the books a couple of years ago, borrowed them from the library. But now I can say I actually own the books. Definitely going to be reading them soon when I have an off day. So thank again for reminding me why I love this series by Karen Traviss.
Great video, I’m so late to the clone trooper lore party, fell into a huge rabbit hole to learn more about these arc troopers.
Always was interested in the Null arcs but didn't know much about them aside from the kaminoans considering them failures and some Mandalorian trained them as his own or something
I love this channel! Such great quality! Look forward to all your videos!
Love the fact one of them is named '"A'den", Mandolorian for Rage: my nickname back in college. Lol!
THANK YOU!!!! Republic commando series is one the best clone series out there. Its shame it isnt cannon.
Can you do Omega squad and Darman ( the clone leader) and Etain (a jedi) child?
The NULL Brothers are Legendary! OYA!!!
...the art you feature of them is very handsome...thank you for doing them justice!
Yes I would love to hear more about the nulls. awesome video. Thank you very much
we need a game about them
I'm on the third book of the Republic Commando series, and I think that there should be a movie or TV series about Kal Skirata and the Nulls.
I've read all the books in the Republic and Imperial commando series and I would love for it to be adapted into some form of show or movie possibly even bad batch
the legends ARCs in general were much cooler than the disney ones , also for anyone who see's this i highly recommend the comics with Alpha 17 in
I adore anything with the Null Arcs and Omega Squad. They are Star Wars to me. I'm obsessed. Great video.
Awesome video, what was two music tracks you use in this particular video because I actually really like it, another question do have any reading recommendations for the null arc troopers. Keep up the awesome work 😀.
"a 250% rise in clone K/D Ratios"
That's it! Right there! That's the funny!
Null ARCs: the Spartans of Star Wars
You have it so back words. Travis didn't cause the continuity errors but the other writers that took over after she quit writing SW books because of the Disney Buyout. Once she left the writers of the Clone Wars show had to change the whole mando backstory to fit what Disney wanted to do once they fully owned the rights to SW.
This is the first time I heard about the Nulls. Clones are my favorite part of star wars. Great job on the video!
Guess who else is underrated? Clone Commandos...need to give them more love please, Dave Filoni.
Third actually so interesting I would love a book or show introducing them into the new cannon and just flushing them out and giving them stories, on top of that the dynamic between them as brothers would be fun to watch play out and how they would interact with the general Clone pop arcs commandos and Jedi so much potential I wish would be utilized
I think this video Lerne me about the null class arc more than any other video I see about them
My favorite clones
I read Fordo instant of Ordo, I was like, what the hell you doing there perfect soldier?
I talk every star wars fan into reading hard contact, and that takes care of that. Oya
I’d love to see a short animated series of the Null’s. First couple episodes focused on their bigger missions in the Clone Wars and then the search for the anti aging stuff would be the last couple episodes. I wouldn’t mind a couple spin off’s of the Clone Wars series focusing on certain groups. Like one for a commando group and one for the Clone spies. It would be neat.
I love the Null Clones and that is a wonderful book series. It would have been awesome if they made it into an animated show with the same style of animation as Clone Wars.
Since we are showing the Nulls some love, show some love to Omega squad (Republic commandos).
The Kaminoians are evil! Even Darth Plagueis called them Sith-like.
I read the novel, and I agreed with his assessment.
These guys were the Spartans of the Star Wars universe.
I love your other channel too keep up the good work
Hey geetsly’s you should make a video on what clone armor you would where what design you would have on your armor and what weapon and accessories you would have me personally I would have the umbra
operative arc trooper which a phase 1 helmet with the orange markings and my nickname would be ruckus and I would primarily use a minigun and two clone blaster pistols
I'm so happy to see the Null boys getting some love
Silent Assassins. Kal threatened the Kaminoan that said they were gonna be disposed(Damn Aiwha Baits). Uruetii Disney decanonized these later turned Mando ade clones. First Filoni fucked them. Traviss left for that. Disney fucked it up even more ( only exception was the The Mandalorian series). Fierfek! .Clones were like the New Mandalorian army 2.0. One of them called Ko Sai mom. I dont care if it contradicted The Clone Wars we began to love they could've connect it in a correct way to the series. Karen needs to finish the final chapter of her series and release it as a fan fic. There's gotta be a way to convince her. Even if it pisses Disney off its proof that legends mandalorians and clones were better. In canon they're kinda good like Rex, Echo, Wolffe and others. Jango in a way got gis revengebagainst the Jedi for what happened to him and his Mando ade in Ghalidraan. Mandalorians serve no one . We were few in number but we made the Republic tremble beneath our feet. We can live without tecnology. We turn our children into warriors. Our beskar gan is history. We accept anybody in our clan. We bury alive our enemies and make unimaginable terror to those who threatened us and our families. We are the sons of Mandalore. The Taung made us. Declare war on us and its a death sentence. Its not a threat its a promise. Kote Darasuum.
yeah, her website says she won't revisit those stories but she gives a list of what would have happened in the next novel...
We need the 6th republic commandos book
I still want a bad batch episode about them where you see hunter and the gang hanging out with the nulls who are hanging out with the Mandalorians and their gang
Thank fuck I finally know how to pronounce Kal's last name.
Geetsly the art and wallpapers are sick
My favorite park of order 66 was when a jedi walked into the base asked the nulls for a bottle of booze and a blaster and to be left alone
Glad people remember the nulls. Loved the commando story line.
My 5 favorite Books in Legends are the Clan Skirata Saga. I really wish she'd have been able to complete Book 6.
Geetsly when will the next history of the Republic episode be? The first one was fantastic!
Slight correction - Jaing's hide gloves were made from another Kaminoan he killed on Kamino, as he had the gloves before they captured Ko Sai. Just a slight correction, and great work on the video.
These guys just work like clone commandos so I’d love to see in a comic where nulls meet up with boss and the squad.
Could u do a video on Dar and Etian, plz. The Republic Commandos are my favorite star wars books. You could even throw in Kad
hearing the intro sparks alot of memories
This is the moment where Fanfiction comes in. There are some really good stories with the Nulls out there.
Can't wait to see them in Bad Batch with that deserter safe-haven.
bro really pulled an office space on the galactic banking clan
arc trooper.. short for advanced reconnaissance commando. thats generally what people think of when they hear the phrase republic commando. although the deltas were also karen traviss's creation.
N-11 was named after canderous Ordo (ordo skirata) , he already new he was gona kick butts everywhere he went
I read the book sadly they didn’t find sev yet or very many other MIA’s niner and the other clone commandos would have been nice too actually I wanted to see a whole story ark of ark troopers and another dedicated to commandos in the clone wars but we did not get it and clan skirata should get its own series that takes place during the galactic empire rise to fall and have them rescue fellow clones looking for sev doing bounty hunter contracts and have flash backs too the cloning facility and to past missions that involve the clones they help in the present day too that would be awesome
I'm up at 1 am watching this but it's sooo worth it
Reading Karen Travis's books, star wars, halo, etc, just makes me giggle, in a good way, her characters are just so OP and outsmart everyone but you still feel like they are in actual danger, with regards to her sharing her babies she seems to keep it to a few other trusted Authors like Troy Denning and Aron Allston.