I went the opposite route, went down from a new 40 hp tiller on a light 16ft to a 25 hp and am 100% happier {Mercury's}. I feel like a lot of people think that a bigger outboard is just more power, its not. Weight comes into play, with handling and effort to operate. I have a 2 vids on my channel of the 40 hp being too much. 1 vid of Holeshot with lift/torque steer, and another of it porpoising no matter what trim or transom height setting. What I found is that its the weight of the outboard on the transom, not the power that is the limiting factor. The older 2 stroke 40-50 hp outboards were around 180lbs with power trim, the new 4 strokes are 40-65 lb's heavier and thats mainly what created the above listed negative's. Your SSV is really decked out nicely, Im sure with your riggers, gear, passengers etc you are pushing some weight and that 50 hp feels good. My boat being a '93 says rated for 40 hp but back then they probably never imagined a 40 hp Merc weighing 247lb's, half of what the boat itself weighs then adding a gas, battery and driver in the rear.
I was wondering can you be given a ticket for running a lager motor than what is rated at? And if I where to run a 50 I would get the new Suzuki lean tech. then run a Spot lock on the front for trolling 24 volt lithium.
@@shuswapoutdoors Wow you really think a ssv 16 can handle a 60 hp that weights 210 pounds? Do you think maybe the Hull of the boat might be to thin or the torque on transom? I would love to see a 60 on a SSV 16 for a science experiment see how well it does.
Loved your videos. Thinking of doing the same build, and wanted to skip buying the merc. So 4 years later how has the Honda been? Reliable? And issues. Cheers man
kyle warmerdam now that we have the 50 on it, i would have been disappointed if we put a 40 on it. Imo the 50 is a perfect fit for this boat. One thing to watch is the weight of the motor, we went with the honda because it only weights 216 pounds
Shuswap Outdoors I can see how running a 50 is optimal when cruising across the lake but for trolling purposes does it idle down enough if I'm only running one engine and no kicker
Difference would likely just be a few mph on the top end. Different hp outboards of the same displacement generate the same low end torque and only differ in the upper end of the power band, hole shot and load capacity would be very similar. However, why not maximize hp for weight. For people wanting to run larger lakes I'd recommend just jumping up to the ssv 18 and a 60hp outboard, no replacement for the extra length and beam. I'm partial though, I've owned both and although I appreciate the versatility of a 16 the 18 feels like twice the boat and I can still move it around by hand on its trailer.
Shuswap Outdoors I'm alittle confused I have the 16 WC which is pretty much the same and each dealer or site they all say something different I'm in the great lakes and I use a 25 hp yamaha
Average quote from a dealer in the Midwest,about 8600.00.Complete out the door,including gauges and appropriate Power Tech stainless prop.A definite eye-opener.Like sticker shock.
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I went the opposite route, went down from a new 40 hp tiller on a light 16ft to a 25 hp and am 100% happier {Mercury's}. I feel like a lot of people think that a bigger outboard is just more power, its not. Weight comes into play, with handling and effort to operate. I have a 2 vids on my channel of the 40 hp being too much. 1 vid of Holeshot with lift/torque steer, and another of it porpoising no matter what trim or transom height setting. What I found is that its the weight of the outboard on the transom, not the power that is the limiting factor. The older 2 stroke 40-50 hp outboards were around 180lbs with power trim, the new 4 strokes are 40-65 lb's heavier and thats mainly what created the above listed negative's. Your SSV is really decked out nicely, Im sure with your riggers, gear, passengers etc you are pushing some weight and that 50 hp feels good. My boat being a '93 says rated for 40 hp but back then they probably never imagined a 40 hp Merc weighing 247lb's, half of what the boat itself weighs then adding a gas, battery and driver in the rear.
Thanks for watching
Nice I was looking at the toshiba 50hp motors. My transom on my ssv 16 is 15.
A 50 is the perfect size for the 16
I was wondering can you be given a ticket for running a lager motor than what is rated at?
And if I where to run a 50 I would get the new Suzuki lean tech. then run a Spot lock on the front for trolling 24 volt lithium.
Not in Canada. HP ratings are just a guideline here. In the USA you will get a fine. So it depends on your local laws.
You in Minnesota? I just bought the same boat and it has a Merc 20 I’m afraid it won’t be enough. Where is a good place to buy a used outboard?
I'm in British Columbia. I'd go 40hp minimum. And after running the 50hp on it for a couple years, the boat could handle a 60hp no problem.
@@shuswapoutdoors Wow you really think a ssv 16 can handle a 60 hp that weights 210 pounds? Do you think maybe the Hull of the boat might be to thin or the torque on transom? I would love to see a 60 on a SSV 16 for a science experiment see how well it does.
Yep, it could handle a 60 no problem.
Loved your videos. Thinking of doing the same build, and wanted to skip buying the merc. So 4 years later how has the Honda been? Reliable? And issues. Cheers man
The Honda has been fantastic
Mooie video, alleen jammer van de herrie van het kleine Honda motortje. Ik heb ook een nieuwe Honda BF50 besteld voor mijn visboot. Een Pegazus 450.
I'd step up to 21" prop with that combo.
mccallumcra not even close. 14 is spot on for rpm
Nice outfit. What is the risk of going from a 40hp max rated Lund ssv 16 to a 50hp?
Zero. It's all based off of weight. The 50 honda weights less than the max weight rating for the transom.
60. Mite as well go up to a 75. A 75 is basically a 90. 90 is close enough to 100 but they don’t make 100s Anymore so going to have to get a 115.
...... no need to be silly
@@shuswapoutdoors no need to be so serious
Top Speed ?
35mp/h
Over Powered is not possible! Lol! If it’s rated for the motor, that is what you should run! Fast is fun!
It's rated for a 40, so 50 is a little over, but I think it's a perfect side fir the boat
Lol well I've got a 25hp honda on my ssv 16 and feel i have plenty of power i guess that's the difference in people 😮.
It's nice having the extra power whenever it's needed
Ong feel like my flying old 16 ft Lund and old Merc 25 2 stroke 🤣
If the ssv 16 boat is rated for max 40 hp how does it handle the 50? I just bought a new ssv 16 and am trying to decide on an engine
kyle warmerdam now that we have the 50 on it, i would have been disappointed if we put a 40 on it. Imo the 50 is a perfect fit for this boat. One thing to watch is the weight of the motor, we went with the honda because it only weights 216 pounds
Shuswap Outdoors
I can see how running a 50 is optimal when cruising across the lake but for trolling purposes does it idle down enough if I'm only running one engine and no kicker
kyle warmerdam nope, idle is 2.8mph, would need a trolling plate or trolling motor for fishing
Even a 40 would troll too fast
Difference would likely just be a few mph on the top end. Different hp outboards of the same displacement generate the same low end torque and only differ in the upper end of the power band, hole shot and load capacity would be very similar. However, why not maximize hp for weight. For people wanting to run larger lakes I'd recommend just jumping up to the ssv 18 and a 60hp outboard, no replacement for the extra length and beam. I'm partial though, I've owned both and although I appreciate the versatility of a 16 the 18 feels like twice the boat and I can still move it around by hand on its trailer.
How much was the 50 hp Honda?
call your local dealer...
Shuswap Outdoors, k thanks. Unsubscribing.
Shuswap Outdoors I'm alittle confused I have the 16 WC which is pretty much the same and each dealer or site they all say something different I'm in the great lakes and I use a 25 hp yamaha
Average quote from a dealer in the Midwest,about 8600.00.Complete out the door,including gauges and appropriate Power Tech stainless prop.A definite eye-opener.Like sticker shock.
@@rezh.6193 lol, better off without you