@@tyrous1743 Since 2020 the Avs have lost the 3rd most man games in the league. Yeah, every team deal with injuries, but acting like EVERY team in the league goes through an injury bug as rough as the Avs have this year(and for the past couple of years)is just disingenuous and flat-out wrong.
Not many teams in the leage can have 6 of the top 9 out and stay anywhere near .500. Defense and goaltending have not been great. Getting healthy will help with the defense, and if the defense is better the goaltending will also improve. Defense will never be top 5, and goaltending wont be top 10, but that isnt who they are. The big question is will they get healthy in time to salvage the season.
Last year Mackinnon, Rantanen, Makar played an avg of 79 games each. Basically the full season. When your 3 best players are fully healthy for a full season, you don’t get to cry about injuries to anyone. Rinse out your head, Marc Moser filled it with excuses and biased crap lol Ur just not a complete team… not deep and suspect on D/goalie. And as a Wild fan, I thoroughly enjoy watching you flail
@@enriquemeza2984 my argument is that you can plug in players for your middle six and still play good hockey if you have 3 healthy superstars at the top of your roster. Minnesota has exactly 1 superstar on its roster, and a bunch of players with less than 100 games played and cast offs, and we’re playing way better than you. I don’t want to hear your excuses, they’re sad, the rest of the NHL is laughing at them. Nobody feels like you’re disadvantaged. You just guzzled all the Altitude koolade after your SC win
The wheels started to fall off with Georgiev last year. He's been overplayed. His first year in Colorado was great, but I don't think he should be playing 60+ games every year. To play like this in a contract is wild.
I keep hearing that argument, but Georgiev was no better when he had rest last year as opposed to when he didn't. I think the organization used it as an excuse to give him leeway to bounce back, but it clearly isn't a factor.
Well considering Lehkonen is returning this week, valteri next week they might rise. Also goaltending is getting better I think they can be on the rise
Georgiev was not good last season either. Always let in an easy goal early, always had to come from behind, this feels like a continuation of that deterioration...
There is no rationale behind it but the team just hasn't felt the same without Landy. Missing a teammate, a friend and your captain seems to have them scrabbling and just ever so slightly 'off'. That on ice leadership role has never been filled and having Gabe around the club but not competing must be a strange situation for the team. I still worry that he will never be able to return but if Landy can hit the ice again I think the Av's will get a fire under them again and restore that missing key piece. Again, no actual reason behind this but just a feeling with the team.
Whenever I discuss injuries, I leave him out of the conversation. Different story if he ever returns and plays at a high level but for now, I agree with your statement.
@ seen multiple people in these comments alone saying they are missing him. Just doesn’t make sense. They also seem to think he’s still a top 6 guy which just won’t be the case after the time he’s missed with injury. He’ll be a shell of himself.
So their goalie situation has been very interesting within the last 10 years. Starting with Craig Anderson. Then simyon varlamov and both of those guys did okay keep in mind that these guys were in Colorado during the rebuild. After varly came grubauer for a couple of years and he did well enough to get that contract in Seattle. Kuemper want them this Stanley Cup and then got that contract in Washington. So I thought that those two goalies played well for the Avalanche to get those contracts. The grubauer contract has been terrible. Kuemper not much better. So those two guys played really well with the Avalanche so you can think that the coaching was pretty good at the time. Georgie may not even get another job in the league. He may be in the KHL next year. Problem is that they don't have money to go out and get a decent goaltender in the long-term. They have to pay rantenen this offseason and you would think it would be north of that 10 million per year. Remember if the cap goes up the salaries go up and you can't tell me that as the cap goes up the team saves money because that's just not the case. Salaries just follow the cap. Colorado is in big trouble. Their window to win was this year.
The thing about the bad defensive numbers is that it's not just the defensemen and goalies, but the whole team. when you look at the injuries/suspension, you have Nichushkin who should be a Selke finalist every year, Lehkonen is probably their second best defensive forward behind Nichushkin, Wood is a key penalty killer, and Drouin actually turned into a very trusted player in the d zone last year. Getting these guys back in the lineup isn't just an offensive boost, it's an even bigger defensive boost.
Avs fan here, yeah out goaltending and defense hasn’t been good enough that being said we pretty much got out AHL team out there right now with the injuries
Every year I grad Georgiev late in the draft thinking I got him as a steal and surely this is finally his bounce back year. Every year I am even more disappointed.
Avs play really tight when Georgiev is in net. Trying to play perfect usually leads to the opposite. Injuries are killing us because the Avs rely on the defense of their forwards in their scheme. Lehkonen and Nichushkin and even Drouin to a lesser extend all play a 200 foot game that the Avs severely lack right now. Also, Mikko Rantanen is slumping HARD. No goals since opening night if I remember correctly or one of the first couple games. Avs need their players back. Also, Georgiev is a mess, he should NOT be back next year. He was awful last year, Avs outscored their issues in net last year. Georgiev had the most wins but go look at his save %. It was awful.
The goal keeping has been awful and has had issues for a while. The defense needs to be better. The injuries aren't helping anything. I think the goalie is the biggest issue right now. Hopefully this is just for the beginning of the season.
I don’t know how a team musters any kind of positive morale, knowing that they have to play with a guy who stabbed him in the back in the playoffs two seasons in a row.
It's really tough, and a lot of us are at the end of our rope with Val. I even said after last seasons playoff exit that I hope he *doesn't* come back, we've been burned too many times. With that being said, I do recognize that his actions reflect the actions of a person struggling with addiction, fame, and noteriety. It's not pretty, but I do have sympathy for the guy. I'm not the coach or gm, I don't decide this but he's coming back in a few weeks - I'm really really hoping he's both still a good player and has been able to recover. Now we wait to see if he relapses.
You know it might just be me. But I still like Val. I’m happy he’s coming back I hope he stay wells cuz he is a great player. But who knows maybe they trade him when he’s back
Knowing what he is struggling with helps. I dont think they see it as stabbing them in the back. Addiction is tough, and I'm sure they are tired of dealing with it though
@@blueheadflame no they should put a Discord mod or a Reddit admin in goal. They’d never lose, except when they died from doing anything remotely involving athletics like skating to the bench between periods
My friend was asking me why they were doing so bad and I made a breakdown of the lineup on who was playing in what position and what position they *should* be playing at and it's brutal. We had a 4th line guy on the top line... a mediocre defenseman as a 3rd line winger... entire 4th line is AHL only quality players... etc etc. It's REALLY bad right now. This is not currently an NHL team. I can't panic because... it's not currently the Avalanche we are watching. It's MacK and crew heading an AHL team with bad goaltending.
Not letting the defense completely off the hook but looking at last season. If the Avs had league average goal tending, they would have won the west and probably the presidents trophy. Georgy got an all-star bid because the team bailed him out a ton last season. Im rooting for the guy to figure it out, but the large sample size I am losing faith in him.
Don't know what people expect when we are missing 6 of our top 9 forwards. We are finally getting Lehky back on Tuesday, but we are still missing major guys. Combine that with the fact that several of the goalies we've been up against have had their best game of year against us (ex. Sarros last night), and it's just a recipe for disaster. It will get better, but we probably won't see this team get back to the type of dominant hockey we are used to until early December.
I’m more concerned for Vancouver than Colorado. The loss’s due to like 6 players missing from their lineup makes sense. But the Canucks are healthy, and are struggling bad. And don’t say it’s because Demko isn’t playing. Last time I checked, the goalies don’t score goals.
@ You clearly didn’t watch the games close enough. Don’t let the final score fool you. That game recently against Carolina was one of their worst games this season. The crowd was booing them, and it was a home game. Happened again against New Jersey. Beating rebuilding teams like Chicago and San Jose, definitely helps hide the problem, stats wise.
@@pomerlain8924 of the 6 missing they are usually great back checkers and that helps the defense a ton. It just be visual but it seems like the forwards are leaving the D out to dry a bunch so far
Thanks Shannon. Avs need to improve the goal against number. Their defense has been shaky especially in front of net and they play fragile in front of Georgiev. With Lehky and Nichushkin coming back soon, hopefully defensively the forwards can help out. Something is wrong with Rantanen. He looks completely disengaged. I think solving the goal tending first and then working on defense and then forwards last will help. Stay healthy. Gotta do all this while managing the cap.
MacKinnon and Annunen putting the team on their backs, especially Mack. 2022 was proof that we don't need a star goalie, just someone who is average but consistent, and Georgiev hasn't been that.
This current roster is a far cry from the roster the Avs had facing Jets during the playoffs. So to say that this is some sort of challenge just feel a little silly to me. They are absolutely playing the best they can with the lineup they have but it’s not gonna change until they get Lehkonen and Nuke and Drouin back.
I think Georgiev is all ready where he was last year. He sucks. Plain and simple. Avs offense scored more goals than Georgie allowed. Simple as that. Avs win the Stanley cup only if we find a goalie who can make a handful of saves more than our current trio of goalies making. I’ve been pro-juice since the 2nd period against Columbus and he hasn’t really disappointed. I’m giving Kahkonen a pass on that first game. Unless Georgie makes some drastic changes NOW vs Later…our tandem needs to be Anunnen/Kahkonen
Well we’re missing lekhonen landeskog and nichushkin which are big parts of our offense all three should and most likely be back. Landeskog is skating everyday and they plan for him to be back mid December or January
@@rydermccracken9199The offense is not the problem, though. It's the defense. Landy was arguably their best two-way forward and they are missing him. But their d-corp is still healthy and they are allowing way too many chances.
We gotta get healthy and when we do watch out. We have alot of young guys stepping up big time in Ivan and Kovalenko which is keeping us afloat for now. Our biggest issue is our pk right now. Way too many lapses defending....
It’s a little tough when two of your top PKers (Lehky and Nuke) have not been playing. With them both coming back soon, the PK should probably get better.
I feel like a major point of all Avalanche seasons the past 6 or so years have had portions with the giant injury bug. End of seasons, mid season, multiple playoffs. I can’t recall a season starting with one. Starting in the doldrums stinks I’ll keep my hopes up just keep Juice in net!
It's basically Mac, Cale, and Mitts shouldering the load. Moose has been a total passenger. Was at the game in Nashville last night, Rants is just coasting with little to no effort.
The scary part regarding injuries is that none of the players injured, and not playing, are defensive players. They're all healthy. Goaltending has been terrible. This team gets behind early and plays the rest of the game trying to catch up. This changes their style of play. If this way of competing continues they will be out of playoff consideration before the end of the year.
Annunen has been pretty good. Even yesterday on goals he let he either was letdown by the defence or only the most elite goalies would've saved them. Their goaltending is servicable, it just doesn't make up for the terrible defence.
Uhhh, what? Nuke, Lehks and Landy are all big 200ft defensive type wingers that can also score. They are the 3 that allow Mack, Rants, Drouins of the team to worry more about the offensive zone
Incomplete, non deep team. Aves fans are Brainwashed by their Altitude sports propaganda machine. They think everyone is an all star and it’s someone else’s fault if they don’t win a cup every year.
It'll be fine. We always have a slow start and always have a bad stretch of injury. Usually they just don't happen at the same time. I have a lot of faith in bednar and there's a lot of hockey left to play, so I'm not at all worried. It sucks, but we've just gotta stay positive. Being annoying on social media will only make it worse.
We just need to figure out the goalie situation. Annunen has been good. He's just young in his NHL career. Kaapo is a decent goalie. Hes just been on some crap teams.
They need to get rid of Georgiev period. He’s awful. Annunen might not be ready, so a trade for another goalie would be a good idea. However we can’t do anything about injuries, just have to wait for them to pass. Some bad luck in that department.
I've been hoping for a while that Annunen gets better and becomes the starter but I figured there would be more time. At this rate Georgiev will be gone at the end of the season and we'll have to look for another goalie. Assuming they don't find one during the season which I have to assume they're looking.
As a Jets fan, I’m looking really close at the next month of the schedule because they are facing for the most part, teams that are expected to be very good. Ok in
With Drouin ready to join the top line and Nichuskin plus Lehkonen joining Mittelstadt on the second line, AVS should get back to their winning ways. No doubt that Annunan should be elevated to #1 status. Of course, I'd to see AVS get a top tier goalie, but they are not willing to pay the price.
I haven’t watched since game 1. We said all last season Georgie wasn’t good enough then he gets blown out in game 1 of the playoffs then plays ok for the rest of the season; and somehow that bought him the trust of the team. Fast forward and shocker we are right where we were last year only this time Nate isn’t carrying us through the slog and as crazy as cales been it’s not enough when you just don’t have a chance in net.
I drafted both Georgiev and Skinner in my fantasy league.. I know, both are sieves, but I thought eh, both are gonna get me 30+ wins regardless.. At least Skinner got me a shutout and luckily I took Dostal as an afterthought since the league counts shots against and saves. Guess who leads my goalies stats.
@@Alx-lt5ei and to think not too long ago The Rangers were struggling with who to keep because they were both playing incredibly. I really thought the rangers were forced to pick one or the other, and when it was Shesterkin I thought Georgiev would be an absolute stud wherever he ended up. Goalies are voodoo
Its only panic time january 1st. Nate dog, Cale, and Mikko will get it done. I have a hard time seeing the jets and wild keeping up at this pace. On the other hand, looks like central will be the tightest divison. That being said. They must adeess rheirgoalie situation asap. Hello gibson, Blackwood, or Elvis.
I have a coworker who's favourite team is the Avalanche, and even he says it's not just goaltending. that being said, Valeri needs to reapply to be in the league again and accepted, but hopefully everyone else comes back soon. that also being said, once everyone comes back, i still don't think Georgiev is the answer or will get better, and i don't feel like Aninen is a solid starter
Annunen is a rookie. He's been solid. He'll get better. He already looks more composed in net. I'm fine with him. People who don't haven't really watched him play. And Nuke will be re-instated. Like. Its nearly impossible to ban someone from the league or kick them out.
How is the injury issue fixed? Avs are the smallest team in the league. They’re also the most injured. How is it not obvious that we need to get some bigger guys in the line up? Also Annunen is easily the starter. He’s young, huge and nimble. He can be developed into an amazing goalie I think. He’s only 24, so much hockey in front of him.
The big difference is Toronto has only two bad games that they deserved to lose - against Columbus and the first game they played against St. Louis. The rest of their losses, they were still in the game until the end. Unfortunately, the same can't be said for the Avalanche. How Colorado plays against Winnipeg and then Carolina two days later is going to go a long way to see what they're really made of - even if they lose one or both of those games.
Another note: anyone who says “strength and conditioning coaches need to be changed” are stupid. 1) we just switched from our 10 year tenured strength and conditioning coach this past offseason 2) you can’t prevent injuries.
I'm getting bored of this injuries excuse, plus our forwards aren't the problem. Our defence has been shaky for two years in a row and for the same time our goaltending has been appalling at best and yet it wasn't addressed. I'm afraid if the issues are ignored it'll be another wasted empty season.
Annunen has been great. Comparatively. And the defense seems to play better in front of him. The lack of scoring is an issue. The lack of experienced forwards is a problem.
Do you really believe that forwards aren't part of the defense? Val is one of the very best fore checkers in the league. Landy and lehky are also 200ft forwards. Not to mention that teows was injured as well. Injuries are the core of the issue. Team defense should improve as they get healthy, but the goaltenders and young guys need to step up as well
It’s not an excuse. Hockey is a team game and as such when you’re missing six of your nine top players, it’s going to be pretty hard to play that team game well. Players have to play above their ability level and players are playing with teammates. They don’t normally play with. Saying injuries are an excuse is living outside of reality.
There’s a point where injuries just become an excuse when you have several top star players who aren’t injured that other teams don’t. Yeah I get they can only do so much, but the goaltending is a huge part of it along with the fact all the defensive players are healthy. The young guys just need to step up too.
A defensemen doesn't have to hit somebody but he had to be big enough to move opposing players out from in front of your own net. When they won the Stanley cup they had Erik Johnson 6'4" 225lbs, Jack johnson 6'2" 225lbs, mcdermid 6'5" 230 lbs, Manson 6'3" 220 lbs. Big strong defensemen that can use their size to control the front of the net and then of course they had makar and Toews for talent and offense. Now what do they have???? Josh Manson. That's it. Their record and goals against says a lot and you can't blame it all on georgiev because he can't stop what he can't see.
The Avs will be fine. They are going to have Val, Lehky, Drouin and Wood back by Thanksgiving and Colton back around mid December. If Landy comes back, he joins Val and Lehky as good/great 2 way wingers and if he doesn't come back then they can throw him on LTIR and use his money to round out the Defense/Goaltending if those are still issues by the deadline.
I'm not a fan of the current Avalanche franchise. Loved them during the 90s and up until 2005 lockout. After that they've been a difficult team to love, even after the 2022 Stanley Cup win. They seem to lack any real cohesion, instead relying on a handful of really good players to do 90% of the work every game. Their goaltending has been pure trash since 2022 as well. Not the teams fault necessarily, but they have maybe the two most annoying home announcers too, that act like the Avs are some God tier team even when they're playing like crap, and the other teams "just got lucky!" Idk, just can't stand the Avs, which makes me sad since they were the team responsible for getting me into hockey in the first place.
Makar is currently playing the best hockey he ever played in the NHL. I'm not sure why you keep bringing up him having having "issues defensively". That's just not true. Plus minus means absolutely nothing when you have goaltending this bad, when you have 6 top 9 forwards missing, when you have allowed tons of empty netters and when the player is always on the ice. Makar is currently carrying an AHL team on his back and has to deal with ECHL level goaltending behind him.
There have been numerous games where Makar has had terrible giveaways that lead to goals. His turnover to Brock Nelson against the Isles, on the power play, is a prime example.
@@pomerlain8924 That doesn't mean he struggles defensively at all. He plays 30 min a game and has to carry the offense. Do you expect him to never make any mistake? Nick Lidstrom made plenty of mistakes, too.
@balthazar2136 I disagree. Numerous games with bad giveaways does mean he struggles defensively. From the defensive side of things could also suggest he's getting too much ice time, fatigue based mistakes
Lets be real here. He wasnt drafted for his defense. And yes he sucks defensively. You can argue +/- until youre blue in the face, eye test says it all. He looks good on the backend because he can skate, and while that counts, when hes pressured or theres a bigger guy on him and he cant use his wheels, he just throws the puck away and hopes one if his teammates get it first. Done that his whole career so far. But thats they way it is with theses offensive dmen.
Thanks for doing this video on the Avs; however, I sure wish you would wear a jersey that doesn't have all that blue in it. The primary color for the Avalanche is burgundy. Although, I suppose that for a video about how badly they are doing it might be somewhat appropriate to wear crappy blue.
Makar is an excellent forward. Just watch him play, he is responsible for so many goals against. So his below average defensive skills should net him a Norris this year.
Why don’t you do a video on how Petterson is dragging the Canucks down like an $11.6 million anchor ⚓️? Oh wait, sry, he’s sensitive so we can’t criticize him.
He’s already made a video on Petterson detailing his thoughts on him pretty clearly in the offseason. His start has sucked, but it’s still a the start. I imagine if we get to the end of this month and he’s still struggling then you’ll get your vid.
I've been watching the games. The most consistent defensive liabilities have been Georgiev, Manson, Girard, and Makar. While not solely to blame, Georgiev lets in a lot of soft goals. Annunen has played much better and deserves the starting position. Manson is too slow and is often out of position. Girard is overly aggressive and gives up a lot of of scoring opportunities. Cale has been getting beat physically and missing coverage down low. To say that top 6 forwards don't have an affect on overall defensive play is a lie. The question is, how much of a difference will they make when they return. In the case of Cale, i think they'll make a huge difference. In the case of Manson and Girard, they probably won't do much. The Avs defensive woes are nothing new and imo, Manson and Girard need to go.
@biffdanielson2820 Not this season. But it isn't just him. He's been solid, but the bar is really high for him. Guarantee that he would still be considered a top defenseman on any other team.
I hope not. I want them to miss the playoffs. The Avalanche are so focused on making the playoffs for what will amount to an inevitable underwhelming run that they keep aggravating this stuff and wasting time. Part of me wonders if they are better off with what happened to Vegas. Miss the playoffs for a year, rest, come back healthy and make an ACTUAL run for the cup. Also, I just can't see this team winning a cup without Landeskog at the moment.
Lemme take out my miniature violin 🎻 Also lmao @ all the Altitude brainwashed Avenues fans crying about being injured as if other teams don’t go through worse than them constantly
@@ak8ishAre you serious? John Cooper wasn't fired after losing in the playoffs the last 3 seasons and actually regressing. Bednar isn't getting fired. There literally isn't a better coach right now. All the good ones are with teams.
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Any NHL team would be losing if they were missing 6 of their top 9 forwards.
Every team deals with injury throughout the year
@@tyrous1743 not like the avs sometimes lol running 60% AHL players and horrible goalies. its not even close
@@tyrous1743 Since 2020 the Avs have lost the 3rd most man games in the league. Yeah, every team deal with injuries, but acting like EVERY team in the league goes through an injury bug as rough as the Avs have this year(and for the past couple of years)is just disingenuous and flat-out wrong.
@@tyrous1743 Let me know how many teams are literally missing 6 of their top 9.
@@maxv658literally we’re gonna get into the playoffs should the Avs get in who tf knows what happened
having a top 6 consisting of MacKinnon, Rantanen, Nichushkin, Mittelstadt, Lehkonen, Drouin/Colton would go a long way
I appreciate someone in hockey media outside the local market covering the Avs. Thank you.
The avs are always talked about lmao
Not many teams in the leage can have 6 of the top 9 out and stay anywhere near .500. Defense and goaltending have not been great. Getting healthy will help with the defense, and if the defense is better the goaltending will also improve. Defense will never be top 5, and goaltending wont be top 10, but that isnt who they are. The big question is will they get healthy in time to salvage the season.
The season before last, the Avs defense was in the top 5 in almost every defense metric. Last season. They were not. This season? Not sure
goaltending sure but their d core is still one of the league’s best lol
Just once I would like a full season where we don’t get decimated by injuries for a stretch of the season 😅
Last year Mackinnon, Rantanen, Makar played an avg of 79 games each. Basically the full season.
When your 3 best players are fully healthy for a full season, you don’t get to cry about injuries to anyone.
Rinse out your head, Marc Moser filled it with excuses and biased crap lol
Ur just not a complete team… not deep and suspect on D/goalie. And as a Wild fan, I thoroughly enjoy watching you flail
@@GoatsatanRexyour top3 can’t do everything.
@@GoatsatanRex so a team missing its entire middle 6 has no affect on their ability to play consistent hockey? This is your argument
@@enriquemeza2984 my argument is that you can plug in players for your middle six and still play good hockey if you have 3 healthy superstars at the top of your roster. Minnesota has exactly 1 superstar on its roster, and a bunch of players with less than 100 games played and cast offs, and we’re playing way better than you.
I don’t want to hear your excuses, they’re sad, the rest of the NHL is laughing at them. Nobody feels like you’re disadvantaged. You just guzzled all the Altitude koolade after your SC win
@@GoatsatanRexUmm. No. No you can't. And the Wild will collapse. It's just they way they are.
The wheels started to fall off with Georgiev last year. He's been overplayed. His first year in Colorado was great, but I don't think he should be playing 60+ games every year. To play like this in a contract is wild.
I keep hearing that argument, but Georgiev was no better when he had rest last year as opposed to when he didn't. I think the organization used it as an excuse to give him leeway to bounce back, but it clearly isn't a factor.
They kinda have to commit to playing Annunen. And then just wait and hope the injury season will pass.
As a Sharks fan Blackwood will quite literally give y'all a cup just give us draft picks
Lmfaoooo
I was saying that last season actually lol
I don’t think the Avs have any
D E A L
I've been talking about Blackwood since that one game last season when it took the Avalanche 51 shots before they got ONE past him.
Well considering Lehkonen is returning this week, valteri next week they might rise. Also goaltending is getting better I think they can be on the rise
It's their defence, not goaltending, no stick checks, watching the puck, leaving people infront of your goalie with no pushback. It's just a mess.
Georgiev was not good last season either. Always let in an easy goal early, always had to come from behind, this feels like a continuation of that deterioration...
Thanks for the video! Avs are a friend's team, so I like to follow them and see them do well.
Please oh please let it get better soon 🤞🏼🖖🏿
There is no rationale behind it but the team just hasn't felt the same without Landy. Missing a teammate, a friend and your captain seems to have them scrabbling and just ever so slightly 'off'. That on ice leadership role has never been filled and having Gabe around the club but not competing must be a strange situation for the team. I still worry that he will never be able to return but if Landy can hit the ice again I think the Av's will get a fire under them again and restore that missing key piece. Again, no actual reason behind this but just a feeling with the team.
They are missing that presence. Mackinnon is a good leader, but he's very much mean cop to Landy's good cop. The Avs need that other side of the coin
Yeah injuries can be tough for a team to overcome, especially that many. Oilers fan.
At least until the injured guys get back, that defense is a MESS. It's not just the goalie.
None of the injuries are to the defense
@@heathclark318 forwards play defense too.
@@newa0nn I do realize that, not my fault they are not back checking and Makar is a turnover machine
They can not claim they are missing landeskog anymore. Guy hasn’t played a game in over 2 years.
Whenever I discuss injuries, I leave him out of the conversation. Different story if he ever returns and plays at a high level but for now, I agree with your statement.
Most everyone that talks about the injuries doesn't because yeah, you can't really miss what you haven't had for 2+ years.
@ seen multiple people in these comments alone saying they are missing him. Just doesn’t make sense. They also seem to think he’s still a top 6 guy which just won’t be the case after the time he’s missed with injury. He’ll be a shell of himself.
So their goalie situation has been very interesting within the last 10 years. Starting with Craig Anderson. Then simyon varlamov and both of those guys did okay keep in mind that these guys were in Colorado during the rebuild. After varly came grubauer for a couple of years and he did well enough to get that contract in Seattle. Kuemper want them this Stanley Cup and then got that contract in Washington. So I thought that those two goalies played well for the Avalanche to get those contracts. The grubauer contract has been terrible. Kuemper not much better. So those two guys played really well with the Avalanche so you can think that the coaching was pretty good at the time. Georgie may not even get another job in the league. He may be in the KHL next year. Problem is that they don't have money to go out and get a decent goaltender in the long-term. They have to pay rantenen this offseason and you would think it would be north of that 10 million per year. Remember if the cap goes up the salaries go up and you can't tell me that as the cap goes up the team saves money because that's just not the case. Salaries just follow the cap. Colorado is in big trouble. Their window to win was this year.
I disagree
Don't forget Frankie. He was amazing and they wouldn't have won the cup without him. But, his hips were bad, so he couldn't stay healthy.
@@blakehelgoth5247 Frankie?????
@@Russellpeters84
Pavel Francouz. He came in and played very well when Kuemper got injured in the 2022 Cup run.
@timdowney6721 I totally forgot about him
Funny how missing 5 top 6 forwards messes with your record 🤷🏻♂️🤷🏻♂️injuries matter
Yes, but so does goaltending.
@@TheHockeyGuy sure I don’t disagree but every team would falter with those injuries
The thing about the bad defensive numbers is that it's not just the defensemen and goalies, but the whole team. when you look at the injuries/suspension, you have Nichushkin who should be a Selke finalist every year, Lehkonen is probably their second best defensive forward behind Nichushkin, Wood is a key penalty killer, and Drouin actually turned into a very trusted player in the d zone last year. Getting these guys back in the lineup isn't just an offensive boost, it's an even bigger defensive boost.
Avs fan here, yeah out goaltending and defense hasn’t been good enough that being said we pretty much got out AHL team out there right now with the injuries
They could have picked up Aman on waivers, and they traded Branstrom for nothing.
Avs seems like they have issues with the management.
lol No you are not an AHL team. 3 of the 6 missing were expected to. So you are expecting Wood, Colton and Drouin to save you? LMFAO
@@heathclark318missing 5 top 6 forwards 🤨🤨🤨
@@jerbear5312 5 top 6 forwards... Most delusional take on this video
Lehkonen , Nichuskin, Drouin, Colton, landeskog I count 1 2 3 4 5
Every year I grad Georgiev late in the draft thinking I got him as a steal and surely this is finally his bounce back year. Every year I am even more disappointed.
You know things are bad when they're playing Kylington at forward after barely being played as it is.
There’s a reason Georgiev hasn’t been a #1 before coming to the Avs. He just can’t consistently handle it.
Avs play really tight when Georgiev is in net. Trying to play perfect usually leads to the opposite.
Injuries are killing us because the Avs rely on the defense of their forwards in their scheme. Lehkonen and Nichushkin and even Drouin to a lesser extend all play a 200 foot game that the Avs severely lack right now.
Also, Mikko Rantanen is slumping HARD. No goals since opening night if I remember correctly or one of the first couple games.
Avs need their players back.
Also, Georgiev is a mess, he should NOT be back next year. He was awful last year, Avs outscored their issues in net last year. Georgiev had the most wins but go look at his save %. It was awful.
The goal keeping has been awful and has had issues for a while. The defense needs to be better. The injuries aren't helping anything. I think the goalie is the biggest issue right now. Hopefully this is just for the beginning of the season.
As an Avs fan ...
I ain't Rantanen and raving just yet . They's MacKinnon the best of the cards they've been dealt . 🤞 things get better . Soon !
I don’t know how a team musters any kind of positive morale, knowing that they have to play with a guy who stabbed him in the back in the playoffs two seasons in a row.
It's really tough, and a lot of us are at the end of our rope with Val. I even said after last seasons playoff exit that I hope he *doesn't* come back, we've been burned too many times.
With that being said, I do recognize that his actions reflect the actions of a person struggling with addiction, fame, and noteriety. It's not pretty, but I do have sympathy for the guy. I'm not the coach or gm, I don't decide this but he's coming back in a few weeks - I'm really really hoping he's both still a good player and has been able to recover. Now we wait to see if he relapses.
You know it might just be me. But I still like Val. I’m happy he’s coming back I hope he stay wells cuz he is a great player. But who knows maybe they trade him when he’s back
Knowing what he is struggling with helps. I dont think they see it as stabbing them in the back. Addiction is tough, and I'm sure they are tired of dealing with it though
@@ZurrkeAnd because it adds to his struggle, it would probably be best for him to step away and put his wellness first.
The Avalanche have had so much success with below average NHL goaltending and good players out on LTIR that it's become part of their team culture.
They should hire a sumo wrestler in the goal. A real thinking outside of the crease move.
Charles Wang suggested this 20 years ago with the Isles.
I'm actually a sumo fan (lived over there for six years), and many of those guys are surprisingly quick and athletic despite their size.
Annunen has been great.
@@blueheadflame no they should put a Discord mod or a Reddit admin in goal.
They’d never lose, except when they died from doing anything remotely involving athletics like skating to the bench between periods
Putting a big fat guy in net thinking he'll block the whole net has been debunked. The net is a lot bigger than you think.
My friend was asking me why they were doing so bad and I made a breakdown of the lineup on who was playing in what position and what position they *should* be playing at and it's brutal. We had a 4th line guy on the top line... a mediocre defenseman as a 3rd line winger... entire 4th line is AHL only quality players... etc etc. It's REALLY bad right now. This is not currently an NHL team. I can't panic because... it's not currently the Avalanche we are watching. It's MacK and crew heading an AHL team with bad goaltending.
Not letting the defense completely off the hook but looking at last season. If the Avs had league average goal tending, they would have won the west and probably the presidents trophy. Georgy got an all-star bid because the team bailed him out a ton last season. Im rooting for the guy to figure it out, but the large sample size I am losing faith in him.
Don't know what people expect when we are missing 6 of our top 9 forwards. We are finally getting Lehky back on Tuesday, but we are still missing major guys. Combine that with the fact that several of the goalies we've been up against have had their best game of year against us (ex. Sarros last night), and it's just a recipe for disaster. It will get better, but we probably won't see this team get back to the type of dominant hockey we are used to until early December.
Do you think we make playoffs?
So far, they're wasting a wonderful season from Cale Makar.
This is a learning year for the Avs, definitely.
Shannon: How does a goalie get his mojo back?
I’m more concerned for Vancouver than Colorado. The loss’s due to like 6 players missing from their lineup makes sense. But the Canucks are healthy, and are struggling bad. And don’t say it’s because Demko isn’t playing. Last time I checked, the goalies don’t score goals.
All the Avs' players injured are offensive players and the team is still scoring. Their defense is a problem even with the poor goaltending.
@@blackhawks9763 struggling bad is harsh, 8th in the league in point% is far from that
@ You clearly didn’t watch the games close enough. Don’t let the final score fool you. That game recently against Carolina was one of their worst games this season. The crowd was booing them, and it was a home game. Happened again against New Jersey. Beating rebuilding teams like Chicago and San Jose, definitely helps hide the problem, stats wise.
@@blackhawks9763 sure they aren’t looking as good as expected and are struggling in aspects, but struggling badly is not correct
@@pomerlain8924 of the 6 missing they are usually great back checkers and that helps the defense a ton. It just be visual but it seems like the forwards are leaving the D out to dry a bunch so far
Thanks Shannon. Avs need to improve the goal against number. Their defense has been shaky especially in front of net and they play fragile in front of Georgiev. With Lehky and Nichushkin coming back soon, hopefully defensively the forwards can help out. Something is wrong with Rantanen. He looks completely disengaged. I think solving the goal tending first and then working on defense and then forwards last will help. Stay healthy. Gotta do all this while managing the cap.
MacKinnon and Annunen putting the team on their backs, especially Mack. 2022 was proof that we don't need a star goalie, just someone who is average but consistent, and Georgiev hasn't been that.
I think Kaapo is better than his numbers say
This current roster is a far cry from the roster the Avs had facing Jets during the playoffs. So to say that this is some sort of challenge just feel a little silly to me. They are absolutely playing the best they can with the lineup they have but it’s not gonna change until they get Lehkonen and Nuke and Drouin back.
Do you think they’ll make playoffs?
I think Georgiev is all ready where he was last year. He sucks. Plain and simple. Avs offense scored more goals than Georgie allowed. Simple as that. Avs win the Stanley cup only if we find a goalie who can make a handful of saves more than our current trio of goalies making. I’ve been pro-juice since the 2nd period against Columbus and he hasn’t really disappointed. I’m giving Kahkonen a pass on that first game. Unless Georgie makes some drastic changes NOW vs Later…our tandem needs to be Anunnen/Kahkonen
Maybe Landesgog was a bigger part of their success than he was credited for?
Well we’re missing lekhonen landeskog and nichushkin which are big parts of our offense all three should and most likely be back. Landeskog is skating everyday and they plan for him to be back mid December or January
Also no Drouin and now no Colton. Colton was scoring goals like crazy before that bromen foot. @@rydermccracken9199
@@rydermccracken9199and now Colton and wood.
Drouin and Colton have been good for us as well.
@@rydermccracken9199The offense is not the problem, though. It's the defense. Landy was arguably their best two-way forward and they are missing him. But their d-corp is still healthy and they are allowing way too many chances.
We gotta get healthy and when we do watch out. We have alot of young guys stepping up big time in Ivan and Kovalenko which is keeping us afloat for now. Our biggest issue is our pk right now. Way too many lapses defending....
Ivan and Kovalenko have been good. The new guy that played last night looked good too
It’s a little tough when two of your top PKers (Lehky and Nuke) have not been playing. With them both coming back soon, the PK should probably get better.
“ya they gotta 7 forwards injured probably not an issue” finished the video for ya 👍
I feel like a major point of all Avalanche seasons the past 6 or so years have had portions with the giant injury bug. End of seasons, mid season, multiple playoffs. I can’t recall a season starting with one.
Starting in the doldrums stinks I’ll keep my hopes up just keep Juice in net!
It's basically Mac, Cale, and Mitts shouldering the load. Moose has been a total passenger. Was at the game in Nashville last night, Rants is just coasting with little to no effort.
Rantanen played the most minutes out of any forward last year. I think with all these injuries, he’s just tired.
predict a coaching change is coming or they make a big move for a goaltender.
The scary part regarding injuries is that none of the players injured, and not playing, are defensive players. They're all healthy. Goaltending has been terrible. This team gets behind early and plays the rest of the game trying to catch up. This changes their style of play. If this way of competing continues they will be out of playoff consideration before the end of the year.
Annunen has been pretty good. Even yesterday on goals he let he either was letdown by the defence or only the most elite goalies would've saved them. Their goaltending is servicable, it just doesn't make up for the terrible defence.
Uhhh, what? Nuke, Lehks and Landy are all big 200ft defensive type wingers that can also score. They are the 3 that allow Mack, Rants, Drouins of the team to worry more about the offensive zone
Incomplete, non deep team. Aves fans are Brainwashed by their Altitude sports propaganda machine. They think everyone is an all star and it’s someone else’s fault if they don’t win a cup every year.
@@blitz3463defenseman he means.
@@triples3768 Defense is played as a 5 men unit, not just the responsibility of defenseman
It'll be fine. We always have a slow start and always have a bad stretch of injury. Usually they just don't happen at the same time. I have a lot of faith in bednar and there's a lot of hockey left to play, so I'm not at all worried. It sucks, but we've just gotta stay positive. Being annoying on social media will only make it worse.
We just need to figure out the goalie situation. Annunen has been good. He's just young in his NHL career. Kaapo is a decent goalie. Hes just been on some crap teams.
Can they not just play Annunen more?
They need to get rid of Georgiev period. He’s awful. Annunen might not be ready, so a trade for another goalie would be a good idea. However we can’t do anything about injuries, just have to wait for them to pass. Some bad luck in that department.
Kaapo is a decent pickup. I think he's a solid back up
@ sure but a duo of annunen and kahkonen is just fine, not great. Having a solid 1a for annunen to be 1B would be good.
I've been hoping for a while that Annunen gets better and becomes the starter but I figured there would be more time. At this rate Georgiev will be gone at the end of the season and we'll have to look for another goalie. Assuming they don't find one during the season which I have to assume they're looking.
@@JediMasterZLLKaapo. That's why they got him. I assume as a backup to Annunen
@@soulknife20 I hope he is. He wasn't in the one game he's played for the Avs.
As a Jets fan, I’m looking really close at the next month of the schedule because they are facing for the most part, teams that are expected to be very good. Ok in
I say they tank and get another Makar.
Honestly if the Avs hadn’t won the cup recently I think you could make the case that their team is cursed.
So early I beat the sound
Ottawa played their worst game of the season
With Drouin ready to join the top line and Nichuskin plus Lehkonen joining Mittelstadt on the second line, AVS should get back to their winning ways. No doubt that Annunan should be elevated to #1 status. Of course, I'd to see AVS get a top tier goalie, but they are not willing to pay the price.
AHL or not, the Avs need to put together a winning streak here soon. The hole they are digging is almost too deep at this point.
Do you think they’ll make playoffs?
I haven’t watched since game 1. We said all last season Georgie wasn’t good enough then he gets blown out in game 1 of the playoffs then plays ok for the rest of the season; and somehow that bought him the trust of the team. Fast forward and shocker we are right where we were last year only this time Nate isn’t carrying us through the slog and as crazy as cales been it’s not enough when you just don’t have a chance in net.
It's more they are on the hook for his contract. He's gets paid whether or not they trade him.
I drafted both Georgiev and Skinner in my fantasy league.. I know, both are sieves, but I thought eh, both are gonna get me 30+ wins regardless.. At least Skinner got me a shutout and luckily I took Dostal as an afterthought since the league counts shots against and saves. Guess who leads my goalies stats.
Put Fourgiev on waivers. He should not start another game for the Avs. He was an absolute disaster last season and a worse this season.
@@Alx-lt5ei and to think not too long ago The Rangers were struggling with who to keep because they were both playing incredibly. I really thought the rangers were forced to pick one or the other, and when it was Shesterkin I thought Georgiev would be an absolute stud wherever he ended up. Goalies are voodoo
Jets 10-1 was not on my bingo card
why couldn't georgiev have sucked against us last year
team defense?
You think the Ducks would take Nichuskin and Georgiev for Dostal? That might fix it....
Its only panic time january 1st.
Nate dog, Cale, and Mikko will get it done.
I have a hard time seeing the jets and wild keeping up at this pace.
On the other hand, looks like central will be the tightest divison.
That being said. They must adeess rheirgoalie situation asap.
Hello gibson, Blackwood, or Elvis.
I have a coworker who's favourite team is the Avalanche, and even he says it's not just goaltending. that being said, Valeri needs to reapply to be in the league again and accepted, but hopefully everyone else comes back soon. that also being said, once everyone comes back, i still don't think Georgiev is the answer or will get better, and i don't feel like Aninen is a solid starter
Annunen is a rookie. He's been solid. He'll get better. He already looks more composed in net. I'm fine with him. People who don't haven't really watched him play. And Nuke will be re-instated. Like. Its nearly impossible to ban someone from the league or kick them out.
Depending on an addict always ends well.
How is the injury issue fixed? Avs are the smallest team in the league. They’re also the most injured. How is it not obvious that we need to get some bigger guys in the line up?
Also Annunen is easily the starter. He’s young, huge and nimble. He can be developed into an amazing goalie I think. He’s only 24, so much hockey in front of him.
Do you think they’ll make the playoffs?
@ yes I do.
mackinnon and makar play together avs will be just fine, if not they''ll struggle
They play individually. They don’t play as a team. Great individual players nonetheless
Maybe they need a captain?
See we’re gonna win the cup in the 2025 Lehky, Drouin, Nichushkin, Colton is hurt
Same W-L pattern as the Leafs 😢
The big difference is Toronto has only two bad games that they deserved to lose - against Columbus and the first game they played against St. Louis. The rest of their losses, they were still in the game until the end. Unfortunately, the same can't be said for the Avalanche. How Colorado plays against Winnipeg and then Carolina two days later is going to go a long way to see what they're really made of - even if they lose one or both of those games.
Another note: anyone who says “strength and conditioning coaches need to be changed” are stupid. 1) we just switched from our 10 year tenured strength and conditioning coach this past offseason 2) you can’t prevent injuries.
The Avs lack defense and roster depth. They'll be fighting for the WC
We have depth. Just it's all injured at the moment.
Take out 5 of the top 9 forwards on any team, depth will be hard to get, interesting how that works
I hate Geograv - via WPG
I'm getting bored of this injuries excuse, plus our forwards aren't the problem. Our defence has been shaky for two years in a row and for the same time our goaltending has been appalling at best and yet it wasn't addressed.
I'm afraid if the issues are ignored it'll be another wasted empty season.
Annunen has been great. Comparatively. And the defense seems to play better in front of him. The lack of scoring is an issue. The lack of experienced forwards is a problem.
Do you really believe that forwards aren't part of the defense? Val is one of the very best fore checkers in the league. Landy and lehky are also 200ft forwards. Not to mention that teows was injured as well. Injuries are the core of the issue. Team defense should improve as they get healthy, but the goaltenders and young guys need to step up as well
It’s not an excuse. Hockey is a team game and as such when you’re missing six of your nine top players, it’s going to be pretty hard to play that team game well. Players have to play above their ability level and players are playing with teammates. They don’t normally play with. Saying injuries are an excuse is living outside of reality.
There’s a point where injuries just become an excuse when you have several top star players who aren’t injured that other teams don’t. Yeah I get they can only do so much, but the goaltending is a huge part of it along with the fact all the defensive players are healthy. The young guys just need to step up too.
Missing 4 of their top 6 forwards and having tiny non physical defensemen.... I think they are doing better than they should.
A defenseman doesn't have to hit people constantly to be good.
@@soulknife20 yeah but they should try playing defense instead of LARPing as mackinnon v2
@@GoatsatanRexWin a cup then talk trash, son
A defensemen doesn't have to hit somebody but he had to be big enough to move opposing players out from in front of your own net. When they won the Stanley cup they had Erik Johnson 6'4" 225lbs, Jack johnson 6'2" 225lbs, mcdermid 6'5" 230 lbs, Manson 6'3" 220 lbs. Big strong defensemen that can use their size to control the front of the net and then of course they had makar and Toews for talent and offense. Now what do they have???? Josh Manson. That's it. Their record and goals against says a lot and you can't blame it all on georgiev because he can't stop what he can't see.
They will turn it around i believe 😮.
Actually, I believe it is in the vey nature of an avalanche to continue to fall... I'm sorry, I just couldn't resist 😉
The Avs will be fine. They are going to have Val, Lehky, Drouin and Wood back by Thanksgiving and Colton back around mid December. If Landy comes back, he joins Val and Lehky as good/great 2 way wingers and if he doesn't come back then they can throw him on LTIR and use his money to round out the Defense/Goaltending if those are still issues by the deadline.
I'm not a fan of the current Avalanche franchise. Loved them during the 90s and up until 2005 lockout. After that they've been a difficult team to love, even after the 2022 Stanley Cup win. They seem to lack any real cohesion, instead relying on a handful of really good players to do 90% of the work every game. Their goaltending has been pure trash since 2022 as well. Not the teams fault necessarily, but they have maybe the two most annoying home announcers too, that act like the Avs are some God tier team even when they're playing like crap, and the other teams "just got lucky!" Idk, just can't stand the Avs, which makes me sad since they were the team responsible for getting me into hockey in the first place.
Makar is currently playing the best hockey he ever played in the NHL. I'm not sure why you keep bringing up him having having "issues defensively". That's just not true. Plus minus means absolutely nothing when you have goaltending this bad, when you have 6 top 9 forwards missing, when you have allowed tons of empty netters and when the player is always on the ice. Makar is currently carrying an AHL team on his back and has to deal with ECHL level goaltending behind him.
There have been numerous games where Makar has had terrible giveaways that lead to goals. His turnover to Brock Nelson against the Isles, on the power play, is a prime example.
Georgiev was bad. Annunen has been good. The defence overall is pretty bad.
@@pomerlain8924 That doesn't mean he struggles defensively at all. He plays 30 min a game and has to carry the offense. Do you expect him to never make any mistake? Nick Lidstrom made plenty of mistakes, too.
@balthazar2136 I disagree. Numerous games with bad giveaways does mean he struggles defensively. From the defensive side of things could also suggest he's getting too much ice time, fatigue based mistakes
Lets be real here. He wasnt drafted for his defense. And yes he sucks defensively. You can argue +/- until youre blue in the face, eye test says it all. He looks good on the backend because he can skate, and while that counts, when hes pressured or theres a bigger guy on him and he cant use his wheels, he just throws the puck away and hopes one if his teammates get it first. Done that his whole career so far. But thats they way it is with theses offensive dmen.
Getting bored with this chanel, THG all he does is read box score stats though and doesn’t really give any real analysis.
Makar is piling up points and also piling up the points against. Not a Norris playing defensemen.
Thanks for doing this video on the Avs; however, I sure wish you would wear a jersey that doesn't have all that blue in it. The primary color for the Avalanche is burgundy. Although, I suppose that for a video about how badly they are doing it might be somewhat appropriate to wear crappy blue.
And here comes yet another jester telling Shannon what to wear😂
I’ll take Top 5 Blandest NHL Jerseys for $1000, Alex.
Heh heh....
Makar is an excellent forward.
Just watch him play, he is responsible for so many goals against.
So his below average defensive skills should net him a Norris this year.
This board would suggest you want to talk about more than Avs.....hmmmmmm.
Why don’t you do a video on how Petterson is dragging the Canucks down like an $11.6 million anchor ⚓️? Oh wait, sry, he’s sensitive so we can’t criticize him.
If you use $, you don't need to write dollar as well.
He’s already made a video on Petterson detailing his thoughts on him pretty clearly in the offseason. His start has sucked, but it’s still a the start. I imagine if we get to the end of this month and he’s still struggling then you’ll get your vid.
That’s the worst contract in the NHL, and anyone who disagrees. Can go look at the analytics for themselves.
@ Worst contract of the league so far. Again only been a month. But trust me I do not disagree that his season has been miserable as of now.
nah they're just bad
Bad take. Maybe your team should lose 6 forwards and have to play AHL guys. See how well they do
I've been watching the games. The most consistent defensive liabilities have been Georgiev, Manson, Girard, and Makar. While not solely to blame, Georgiev lets in a lot of soft goals. Annunen has played much better and deserves the starting position. Manson is too slow and is often out of position. Girard is overly aggressive and gives up a lot of of scoring opportunities. Cale has been getting beat physically and missing coverage down low. To say that top 6 forwards don't have an affect on overall defensive play is a lie. The question is, how much of a difference will they make when they return. In the case of Cale, i think they'll make a huge difference. In the case of Manson and Girard, they probably won't do much. The Avs defensive woes are nothing new and imo, Manson and Girard need to go.
Makar hasn't been a liability.
@soulknife20 you again!
@@biffdanielson2820Dang right big dog
@soulknife20 you haven't been watching the games, obviously. Makar's defensive play hasn't been good.
@biffdanielson2820 Not this season. But it isn't just him. He's been solid, but the bar is really high for him. Guarantee that he would still be considered a top defenseman on any other team.
Nope a Kronke owned team needs to finish dead last then lose the draft lottery. Happy to see them suck
You tried little buddy
@ what did I try? I’m confused
@@brianvanwyk9425You tried to be edgy. You failed.
@ edgy? Ok, not entirely sure what that means. was just sharing my opinion that kronke sucks and can burn in hellfire for the St. Louis rams bs.
@@brianvanwyk9425I get that for the Rams. But the Avs? Seems excessive
I hope not. I want them to miss the playoffs.
The Avalanche are so focused on making the playoffs for what will amount to an inevitable underwhelming run that they keep aggravating this stuff and wasting time.
Part of me wonders if they are better off with what happened to Vegas. Miss the playoffs for a year, rest, come back healthy and make an ACTUAL run for the cup.
Also, I just can't see this team winning a cup without Landeskog at the moment.
I'm kind of in the same boat. They run themselves into the ground the last couple of seasons getting the playoffs.
IMO Avs need to move on from Landy, and trade for a goalie. McFarland is wasting time here…
Lemme take out my miniature violin 🎻
Also lmao @ all the Altitude brainwashed Avenues fans crying about being injured as if other teams don’t go through worse than them constantly
You tried little buddy
Let’s go PREDS
J.Bednar out!!! 💪change the coach!!!👍
For what? Dude just won a championship.
We have 1 cup rather then 3 where is cups in last 2 seasons!!!!! Ups Vegas & Florida.... We need better coach.
@@ak8ishAre you serious? John Cooper wasn't fired after losing in the playoffs the last 3 seasons and actually regressing. Bednar isn't getting fired. There literally isn't a better coach right now. All the good ones are with teams.
Trade for Jon Cooper or Mike Sullivan this is very good coaches 👍🥳 AVS need fresh new energy!!!
David Carle is very good coach in Denver universitey 👍available 💪