Although there's already a fast castle tutorial in AoE2's PC workshop, I'm really happy with AoE2 DE. They're going nuts with all the models/textures, features, tutorials, etc. I'm hyped for this game.
I really appreciate them having these guides for competitive play, but I dont understand why they didnt run them past pro players before launch. The community is small and accessible enough to get that input surely?
They had pro players to assist in creating this guide system. Bronze is going to be the pace you need to beat good to hard ai. Silver is the average pro player time knowing the pro will also explore and strategize. Gold is for those who just rush this one strategy while most likely being protected by an ally. Ie. A 3v 3 multiplayer pro game.
@@Volucrum where do you get this from? it seems like you are talking completely out of your arse, because no pro player will advance/click up to Castle Age in 17 minutes when doing a fast castle
@@CeetoKay the guy instructing you before the toutorial is a streamer of the game. Beside that, they have data of the matches of +2000 players and their average rank up speeds. They don't have to datamine when they have all the data already.
@@Volucrum Yeah this build order seems to be better for a pocket but even going all-in on economy might be risky for them. 14 minutes is a bit quick, no?
A short question: 5:25 Did you use the Hotkey "Select all Visible Military Units"? I've just can't figure it out, how do you select not an idle military unit without assign him to a Control Group.
I think it’s the “old” fast castle build from 4-5 years ago when people went up with 30 vils the only difference was that instead of 6 on berry you had 4 on berries and 2 on stone because once in castle you were supposed to go for 4 tc boom, but overall i think fast castle should be the first build order beginners learn
Is there a build order from viper or daut? I just found some from tatoh and stark, but they seemed too old fashioned if you ask me. The ones i found online ALWAYS go for a lot of berries(or split them into half berries, half deer) but viper seems to have a lot of vills under his tc. Kind of confusing
You should give your suggestions to the devs because once this game is done we will have noone to talk to for the next 20 years or something. Better make sure we get things right as much as we can before it's too late
Viper or anyone who has played DE allready, whats your thought on villager pathing, because if it has changed there might be legimate reason to put more vils in berries. I am assuming that vils pumping each others is reason why there should not be more than 4-5 vils in there.
Do you have to hold shift to queue building techs? Does it take the money for it when you click to queue? And what happens when a building is destroyed while your researching/have stuff queued, do you get the money back? Thanks. Great vid
I think it'll work just like any other queuing in AoE (havent played it yet, so this is my guesstimate ;) ). Probably will take resources in advance and you will lose those resources if you dont stop the research before the building is destroyed.
Wait so are you saying the guys the game wants you to be on berries should be on wood instead? I keep trying to find a fast castle into knights and I watched 7 Frank 1 vs 1 games where the Frank player won. However in all of them, they sort of got sidetracked. In four of them they randomly took some villagers off to build some Palisades (which actually turned out to be a good idea). In one of them the Frank player produced 7 Scouts and then attacked a bunch of archers in no-man's land around a gold mine in feudal, so there were a lot of extra villagers on farms. One of them actually involved fending off 3 militia early on and then going for a dark age barracks before making a comeback. I don't disagree with the replays I watched, after all the guy who tried to go into castle age and dump knights on his opponent won. However, I want to know a "generic" fast castle build order that one would take if he didn't get distracted. Once I understand a "generic" build, I can try to modify it depending on what early threats come out. I did the in game guide and got silver and I thought that was a good "generic" build order, but now you say it's not enitrley optimal so I want to know what you think.
DE performance vs. HD is a million times better only because players with advanced machines will be able to play online. Even some brand new laptops will have problems reaching the 1000 points milestone for system requirement. It is unbelievable that a game as simple as this one has so high requirements.
Kinda weird how a "chinese general" is quoted, as if he's the highest authority in warfare. The chinese never fought offensive wars and usually only among each other. I'd say: If you want military advice, you should ask the british :p
Always good to see a Silver player improve and get a Gold challenge.
@Ulf Knudsen are you the idiot who wrote luring deer is cheating in the chat? Hahahahahahah what a loser you are
@@Jartran72 building villagers is cheating
This person improved in just 3 videos , has he ever considered of becoming a pro?
10:49 ........... petition to AOE DE to make this the new "gold please" taunt
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8:51 AI saved Viper by the instruction of building a house.
I wish 'art of war' challenges will expand.
I was actually hoping for another silver.
we all were
This series is an instant hit, and this is the best episode so far, Watching viper struggle with the build order.
I thought he was trolling us for a second or two. ,🤔
Good thing you followed their build order otherwise you would have gotten silver again!
"5000 dollar tournament finals, piece of cake" that line deserves a gold medal
Dont take the two silver medals to hard
I mean you can improve and get better
We weren't good at the beginning eather :^)
eather lol
@@varva001 'eat + ether'...
This game looks absolutely amazing. Looks like they did an awesome job, I cannot wait to play!
it says 3 years ago, but what if this comment is from 1997?
Although there's already a fast castle tutorial in AoE2's PC workshop, I'm really happy with AoE2 DE. They're going nuts with all the models/textures, features, tutorials, etc. I'm hyped for this game.
If the version of AoE2 DE Viper got was specifically tailored to stop him getting gold medals, it would be truly a mighty troll.
I really appreciate them having these guides for competitive play, but I dont understand why they didnt run them past pro players before launch. The community is small and accessible enough to get that input surely?
They had pro players to assist in creating this guide system. Bronze is going to be the pace you need to beat good to hard ai. Silver is the average pro player time knowing the pro will also explore and strategize. Gold is for those who just rush this one strategy while most likely being protected by an ally. Ie. A 3v 3 multiplayer pro game.
@@Volucrum where do you get this from? it seems like you are talking completely out of your arse, because no pro player will advance/click up to Castle Age in 17 minutes when doing a fast castle
@@CeetoKay the guy instructing you before the toutorial is a streamer of the game. Beside that, they have data of the matches of +2000 players and their average rank up speeds. They don't have to datamine when they have all the data already.
@@Volucrum Yeah this build order seems to be better for a pocket but even going all-in on economy might be risky for them. 14 minutes is a bit quick, no?
@@Volucrum Then they came to the wrong conclusions from their data
For non-pro players this is a good way to learn the basics/ build order, one can adapt once you practice
Oh boy oh boy. Time from another silver from this pleb snek
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A short question: 5:25 Did you use the Hotkey "Select all Visible Military Units"? I've just can't figure it out, how do you select not an idle military unit without assign him to a Control Group.
This build order is for noobs Vipah. That's why it seems off to you - it's designed to be easy to execute, not uber efficient.
Safer, but slower.
I did the challenge, the way villagers are aligned does not matter to finish the challenge. You can do that as you want.
They ask you to task 18 vils on wood when you are Celts.
@13:27 what a look of genuine, unbridled satisfaction
any tips to get gold on this one? i do exactly what the build order says but im way slower then you.
*Spoilers*
Requirements not fulfilled; missing one lumberjack; clearly, the gold medal should not count
Game cheated us of silver-only joke.
I think it’s the “old” fast castle build from 4-5 years ago when people went up with 30 vils the only difference was that instead of 6 on berry you had 4 on berries and 2 on stone because once in castle you were supposed to go for 4 tc boom, but overall i think fast castle should be the first build order beginners learn
Is there a build order from viper or daut? I just found some from tatoh and stark, but they seemed too old fashioned if you ask me. The ones i found online ALWAYS go for a lot of berries(or split them into half berries, half deer) but viper seems to have a lot of vills under his tc. Kind of confusing
You should give your suggestions to the devs because once this game is done we will have noone to talk to for the next 20 years or something. Better make sure we get things right as much as we can before it's too late
I think the reason they force you to do so many things is to get you used to doing those things.
what would be a proper build order? what would you change beside the berries and the lumberjacks?
Viper what happened to Ivaylo campaign?
AnnoyinG NerD I don’t have access anymore, so have to wait until the game is released to continue.
I wander what will happen if you don't follow their build order but still achieve the goal in the time given. Maybe it'll give you the gold anyways.
Nice 👍 Finally a good! Funny how your score was 1066!
Viper this build order is good for players that dont have the skill to lure deers yet
Does viper have a video of his own take of fast castle ? According to him this is not the way but I couldn’t find a video about his way...
Found something?
Does anyone know what hotkey he assigns his scout?
I wonder if any new build orders will appear with all this new idle-reducing controls
If you have the spare wood, do you think placing farms for new villagers to gather to build would be a good idea?
I SEE SOME DEERS NOT EATED AND THE BUILDING ORDERS DOESN'T CONSIDER THEM: NOOB PLEB TEACHING!
You fail to take into account that edible prey isn't constant throughout maps
Viper or anyone who has played DE allready, whats your thought on villager pathing, because if it has changed there might be legimate reason to put more vils in berries. I am assuming that vils pumping each others is reason why there should not be more than 4-5 vils in there.
The “silver” comments are fantastic 😂
Do you have to hold shift to queue building techs? Does it take the money for it when you click to queue? And what happens when a building is destroyed while your researching/have stuff queued, do you get the money back?
Thanks. Great vid
I think it'll work just like any other queuing in AoE (havent played it yet, so this is my guesstimate ;) ). Probably will take resources in advance and you will lose those resources if you dont stop the research before the building is destroyed.
Who voices the tutorials in this mode? It sounds really familiar
17/18 lumberjacks - feelsbadman
I'm so proud of you moving from silver to go, some day you'll be a professional in the esports community.....oh wait
Wait so are you saying the guys the game wants you to be on berries should be on wood instead? I keep trying to find a fast castle into knights and I watched 7 Frank 1 vs 1 games where the Frank player won. However in all of them, they sort of got sidetracked. In four of them they randomly took some villagers off to build some Palisades (which actually turned out to be a good idea). In one of them the Frank player produced 7 Scouts and then attacked a bunch of archers in no-man's land around a gold mine in feudal, so there were a lot of extra villagers on farms. One of them actually involved fending off 3 militia early on and then going for a dark age barracks before making a comeback. I don't disagree with the replays I watched, after all the guy who tried to go into castle age and dump knights on his opponent won. However, I want to know a "generic" fast castle build order that one would take if he didn't get distracted. Once I understand a "generic" build, I can try to modify it depending on what early threats come out. I did the in game guide and got silver and I thought that was a good "generic" build order, but now you say it's not enitrley optimal so I want to know what you think.
They should add a counter to how fast one has to go to still get gold
The one person who disliked this video is mbL.
DE performance vs. HD is a million times better only because players with advanced machines will be able to play online. Even some brand new laptops will have problems reaching the 1000 points milestone for system requirement. It is unbelievable that a game as simple as this one has so high requirements.
Did he just forget to fast castle ?? He seemed a bit lost at some point haha
I'm new to this. Why doesnt he agree with the tutorial for appointing 6 lumberjacks and berry harvesters?
The viper playing custom scenarios... what!!!
Iamgine saying good luck to the viper in a tutorial ahahhahahahahah
17/18 lumberjacks. Not gold.
you´re still our little silver boi
Eight equals D
wth viper, we were hoping for a hattrick!
Know I understand why you called silver boy..
Please, ep.3 of Ivaylo - The Last Khans campaign
Players improve themselves.
Daut is still the captain of team secret
Lol, DauT can't even speak English. He needs some few years to challenge TheViper.
@@cezarstefanseghjucan language was never an obstacle for the lord
Town centah 😁
Gold Streamer! PogU
Like Si eres de LATAM! Saludos Vaipa! B|
tbh I find the silver medals looks prettier
Fast build. XD
"Deserved"
@theviper you cheated. do it without the deer!
Only gold no diamond? This pleb is so bad at the game smh
Please do better than bronze at least
Let us play the fucking game already.
if he get another silver on rushing challange, he should back to the kitchen
these trees are way too big!
Getting jabbed by a tutorial voice, what a scrub. LUL
who else here bc they game crash everytime you launch the aow videos
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Silver incomming :^)
Kinda weird how a "chinese general" is quoted, as if he's the highest authority in warfare. The chinese never fought offensive wars and usually only among each other. I'd say: If you want military advice, you should ask the british :p
enough of these viper videos and more footage of yeus deus the magical cavalry dog
bbbbbboneage...
I thought you were getting silvers on purpose
Beginners luck.
Biper your just bad stop blaming the build order
kek