Good for him having a CO detector. Helpful if a single engine attached to the fuselage used for heating or not, engines attached to wings but plumbing goes to the cabin, or if a twin with a separate cabin heater run by fuel in noses fondly called flying bombs a CO detector is cheap insurance.
Every light aircraft should have one. In fact, every enclosed space should have one. A CO detector went off at a local daycare a few years back, which confused everyone because (as is common here in Manitoba) the building was electrically heated. The culprit was finally tracked down to the city transit loop just outside the building's lower floor air intake, where six large diesel buses had been idling. A brisk north wind on a bitterly cold day was all that was needed for the exhaust to be blown into the intake. They moved the bus loop.
I read a story of a swimmer off rhe back end of a boat with the boat motor idling. The swimmer was wading in the water and had succumbed to CO and died. Then I read that that type of accident off the back of a boat has occurred more than once.
CO could've killed me and my friend's family if it wasn't for the little brother hearing the alarm going off and waking us all up. CO is such an unrecognised killer.
Can someone enlighten me on why he did a long landing ? Wouldn't that be risking the wake turb of the CRJ if he lands after the CRJ rotation point ? I thought he would have preferred to land short.
Agree. Having a CO detector is 100% a good idea. But a mayday mayday mayday should probably more appropriately a pan pan call. Because you can open the window, operate the aircraft safely in a GA craft at that altitude. If PAX were unconscious, for sure mayday call. But yes, it did need a calm pilot, but I would have used pan-pan call. If you don’t need immediate ground assistance (as heard), it’s not a mayday. Both calls give you airspace priority and radio priority. But you won’t have the emergency services waiting for you and the same paperwork to do.
CO can very quickly lead to unconsciousness and become fatal, mayday mayday mayday is absolutely the correct call to make. Additionally, CO stays in your blood for a very long time, it's not like altitude induced hypoxia where you can just supplement O2 and descend.
Disagree. Mayday is a life threatening emergency IN THE AIR (or at sea , for that matter). On-ground assistance does not define the emergency, it is just a pretty standard follow-up. Besides, he DID receive ground *based* assistance - from the controller vectoring him right back in. A risk of pilot incapacitation seems more than enough reason to call a mayday, considering CO poisoning will affect your judgement before much else. Better not paint yourself into that corner, just to avoid answering some questions afterwards... Common piston airplane exhaust CO levels can incapacitate humans within seconds. Common detectors will alert starting at levels that may incapacitate in less than an hour. CO is, ahem, nothing to sneeze at ;-)
Good for him having a CO detector. Helpful if a single engine attached to the fuselage used for heating or not, engines attached to wings but plumbing goes to the cabin, or if a twin with a separate cabin heater run by fuel in noses fondly called flying bombs a CO detector is cheap insurance.
Every light aircraft should have one. In fact, every enclosed space should have one.
A CO detector went off at a local daycare a few years back, which confused everyone because (as is common here in Manitoba) the building was electrically heated. The culprit was finally tracked down to the city transit loop just outside the building's lower floor air intake, where six large diesel buses had been idling. A brisk north wind on a bitterly cold day was all that was needed for the exhaust to be blown into the intake. They moved the bus loop.
I read a story of a swimmer off rhe back end of a boat with the boat motor idling. The swimmer was wading in the water and had succumbed to CO and died. Then I read that that type of accident off the back of a boat has occurred more than once.
I use the LIght Speed Delta Zulu headset for just this reason, it has a build in CO detector with audio alerts (via bluetooth).
CO could've killed me and my friend's family if it wasn't for the little brother hearing the alarm going off and waking us all up. CO is such an unrecognised killer.
Engineer told me if it turns red you're dead.
That pilot is a smooth operator there.
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Can someone enlighten me on why he did a long landing ? Wouldn't that be risking the wake turb of the CRJ if he lands after the CRJ rotation point ? I thought he would have preferred to land short.
Yep, agree. He may have had that mixed up, with his focus on the CO.
@@marcelb3645 Or it might _have been_ the CO, it does stuff like that
Agree. Having a CO detector is 100% a good idea. But a mayday mayday mayday should probably more appropriately a pan pan call. Because you can open the window, operate the aircraft safely in a GA craft at that altitude. If PAX were unconscious, for sure mayday call. But yes, it did need a calm pilot, but I would have used pan-pan call. If you don’t need immediate ground assistance (as heard), it’s not a mayday. Both calls give you airspace priority and radio priority. But you won’t have the emergency services waiting for you and the same paperwork to do.
Imagine feeling superior to someone else in this case. Yikes.
@@eriklarson9137 He's correct. But at the end of the day, no one got hurt and that what matters.
How do you open a window in a Cirrus? Answer - you cant...
CO can very quickly lead to unconsciousness and become fatal, mayday mayday mayday is absolutely the correct call to make.
Additionally, CO stays in your blood for a very long time, it's not like altitude induced hypoxia where you can just supplement O2 and descend.
Disagree. Mayday is a life threatening emergency IN THE AIR (or at sea , for that matter).
On-ground assistance does not define the emergency, it is just a pretty standard follow-up. Besides, he DID receive ground *based* assistance - from the controller vectoring him right back in.
A risk of pilot incapacitation seems more than enough reason to call a mayday, considering CO poisoning will affect your judgement before much else. Better not paint yourself into that corner, just to avoid answering some questions afterwards...
Common piston airplane exhaust CO levels can incapacitate humans within seconds. Common detectors will alert starting at levels that may incapacitate in less than an hour.
CO is, ahem, nothing to sneeze at ;-)
I figured SOMEONE would say ‘open a vent, or grab an O2 mask, you could black out any second!’ … I wonder why no one did that?
CO poisoning doesn’t trigger normal suffocation reflex…