@@Zanbatoss There's a weird little exp cap when fighting enemies 22 or more levels higher than your party, which acts completely different to normal exp gains. Not sure why they did that, but it's interesting either way.
@@madusanman5 the reason why is to prevent exploiting and leveling ridiculously quick-think of the Lv100 "Blissey Base": in Pokémon Omega Ruby/Alpha Sapphire, where players would set Lv100 Blisseys with no offensive moves and a Toxic Orb, which would poison and kill them eventually-this will let you defeat them with ANY Pokémon in about 6 turns or so, even if the Pokémon is Lv1, and Blissey just so happens to give the most exp out of any Pokémon, letting you level up your Lv1 Pokémon all the way up to Lv30 or so with a single fight. Xenoblade 1 really really REALLY does not want you to try and fight enemies above your league to begin with, by making almost all your attacks fail, but if somehow you pull off a miracle and win, the developers decided to screw you from your well-deserved reward because they probably didn't want you to go out of the level curve they set for the story. Likely the same reason why enemies 6 levels below you give a pathetic amount of exp; to prevent grinding and powerleveling, keeping you in the level curve. If you ask me, it's kind of a dick move, would rather let players play however they want, but I see why they did it the way they did
@@nicocchi It's just weird how the exp cap doesn't kick in until after 22 levels. Anything 1-21 levels higher is fair game, but only after that does it start negatively effecting exp. Probably explains why some quests try to make you fight monsters that are a higher level than your party.
Nicely done! I wish I had the agility skill from Riki, it took lots of attemps for me to do this. I'm glad to see more people doing things like this in the game. Excelent job! A little tip: at 2:15 you use Shadow Eye and immediately chain attack. You have to wait until the text Physical Arts Plus appears, or it won't activate. You can see you don't have the buff icon next to your character portrait.
thx and congrats to you as well for doing the same. Well yes i am aware of the about the physical art plus appear. Its just that its pretty nervous doing stuff like this and your brain just does not register. Its a lot attempt as well. I did try before i got my riki back attack and it failed alot. There was one time i nearly got it and Marcus appeared and ruined everything. The frustration of doing things many times is not fun. I prefer to show what happen if you do some mistakes rather than choosing the best.
@@cheapercheapest5580 I know, actually that's a mistake I do a lot too. I sometimes get so nervous I have to stop to think during chain attacks. Well, I hope you keep posting good content, now that this game is getting a bit more attention. I definitely will.
anyone can do this how well you do is all about strategy and having a plan for every circumstance topple locking is also probably one of the simplest strategies out there, once you get a topple off the battle is p much over if you don't fuck up don't get me wrong, this is still impressive bc this person still had to come up with the strategy but the execution barrier is low so anyone can use the same strategy and do it.
Haha!! Again! Again! Another sweeet battle!! It was a "delicate" fight! As we all would strive at a superboss in the night! And will always thrive our builds to make it right!! Nice job! And on the other superbosses as well! Haha!! I'll be honest. I wonder if there is anyone that hates a certain monster out there in the Xenoblade series like me. Ik it's not just only me! XD Mines would be.. "Ugh! Despotic Arsene.. Don't worry! You're gonna have a taste of my Reyn's driver, once i trigger him to use "SWORD DRIVE" along with "Berserker"! From the chain attack saying "MAX"! Of course there's the "physical def down" debuff that shulk gives when triggering "Slit edge" on the side. But HA! The revenge was sweet when I ended a final blow using "Sword drive" that did over 101K damage! The little guy had like 20% HP left! Damn I laughed on how ridiculous Reyn's Driver did THAT much damage. So ridiculous! Of course I had Reyn's skill tree link with offensive skills. From the other characters such as Melia's skill tree that has offensive and accuracy skills a few of sharla's as well. Also from shulk's skill tree, we got "Ultimate Teamwork" that increases chain attack damage. Also 7's "Showdown Stance" that increases all stats for a limited of time. Also a few of tension up skills from Dunban's skill tree and also for the rest of the party, it's called "Warrior's ambition". I also had a few Defense Skills as well. I DESTROYED Arsene's Hopes and Dreams of dodging my attacks. We have avenge other players that have also struggled in the past from this...THING!"
I don't really hate much enemies from experiences... but there's the spider from Fiora's 5th skill tree, I didn't know his spike caused daze, but I didn't really want to leave the fight so I managed to kill it, but god... it took a while
I'd have quit when I saw that shit tbh. Figured when you're, yknow, fighting a level 120 UM as level 1s you need everything to go perfectly. Apparently not!
Curious, does anyone know _why_ Reyn sometimes can’t use his arts? This problem only happens to Reyn for some strange reason and I don’t know why. I don’t think this was even an issue in the original, if I recall correctly
On the subject of new bugs, anyone know why I sometimes just can't use Monado Buster? It's greyed out then sometimes springs into life for no apparent reason. Not too big of an issue since it's the worst Monado art but still
the lowest level possible is 1/1/10, Shulk, Reyn, Sharla. Reyn needs level 12 art books and Arts Cooldown Reduction from rikis skills, Topple Plus 6, and back attack 6, Sharla needs a physical build, and level 12 art books for metal blast, and if you want to do it without divine protect, cure round
Diminishing returns from defeating monsters way higher level than you. Once you're more than 20 levels below it trails off hard. When he beat them as level 20 he barely levelled up! That combined with expert mode putting most of the xp in the bank and you get a whopping 103xp. This is why people do tephra cave skips in speedruns to level fast rather than shoving Gogols off cliffs; the same rule doesn't apply to area discoveries
Cheers to you for maximizing the Topple locking and Agility's accuracy range vs high level enemies! Awesome :) How'd you know that 😆 Edit: I noticed your art have XI XII (Is this end game?), wonder if maxed out to XII hits more likely?
Wait... WHAT..... HOW?! Even with topple lock I barely got him with a level 99 party! He always broke out of topple lock and starting to decimate my party.. How do you keep him locked?
the uploader used topple VI gems on everybody and made smart use of shulk's battle soul art to maximize opportunities to use monado cyclone. squeezing out chances to use cyclone seems especially key here since this enemy's reduced topple duration ensures that two topple arts isn't enough to keep him down.
@@cqllel5186 Sharla is extremely tanky end game especially with all the armor she gets. You can stack aura heal + recovery + heal counter and someone to apply str down gem debuff to Abassy. Lv12 Shield bullet is pretty decent. Drive boost gives Sharla fast cool down for Thunderbullet and her healing kit. Melia and Riki can apply Dots from behind or in Chain attack. Lv22 Riki can actually beat Abaasy with lv 1 Shulk. But the battle is extremely long. Team Ether have much easier time fighting high level enemy because ether resist is not tied to agility. Melia enlightenment further reduce the chance of ether being resisted.
![Xenoblade Chronicles: Definitive Edition - Empress Melia Lv23 vs Despotic Arsene [SOLO]](http://i.ytimg.com/vi/FX5go0X9beE/mqdefault.jpg)
I barely did it with a team of Level 99s, congrats
Condor7215 shut up we all know this game is hard
Could you do it?!
I’ve fallen and I can’t get up: Xenoblade Edition
That moment when you beat the hardest UM in the game, and only get from level 1 to level 3 lmao
My guess is the devs just gonna assume you will go kill it with a max level party anyway so they just give bare minimum complimentary xp
@@Zanbatoss There's a weird little exp cap when fighting enemies 22 or more levels higher than your party, which acts completely different to normal exp gains. Not sure why they did that, but it's interesting either way.
@@madusanman5 the reason why is to prevent exploiting and leveling ridiculously quick-think of the Lv100 "Blissey Base": in Pokémon Omega Ruby/Alpha Sapphire, where players would set Lv100 Blisseys with no offensive moves and a Toxic Orb, which would poison and kill them eventually-this will let you defeat them with ANY Pokémon in about 6 turns or so, even if the Pokémon is Lv1, and Blissey just so happens to give the most exp out of any Pokémon, letting you level up your Lv1 Pokémon all the way up to Lv30 or so with a single fight.
Xenoblade 1 really really REALLY does not want you to try and fight enemies above your league to begin with, by making almost all your attacks fail, but if somehow you pull off a miracle and win, the developers decided to screw you from your well-deserved reward because they probably didn't want you to go out of the level curve they set for the story.
Likely the same reason why enemies 6 levels below you give a pathetic amount of exp; to prevent grinding and powerleveling, keeping you in the level curve.
If you ask me, it's kind of a dick move, would rather let players play however they want, but I see why they did it the way they did
@@nicocchi Big deal, they balanced their game to prevent exploits
@@nicocchi It's just weird how the exp cap doesn't kick in until after 22 levels. Anything 1-21 levels higher is fair game, but only after that does it start negatively effecting exp. Probably explains why some quests try to make you fight monsters that are a higher level than your party.
Nicely done! I wish I had the agility skill from Riki, it took lots of attemps for me to do this. I'm glad to see more people doing things like this in the game. Excelent job!
A little tip: at 2:15 you use Shadow Eye and immediately chain attack. You have to wait until the text Physical Arts Plus appears, or it won't activate. You can see you don't have the buff icon next to your character portrait.
thx and congrats to you as well for doing the same. Well yes i am aware of the about the physical art plus appear. Its just that its pretty nervous doing stuff like this and your brain just does not register. Its a lot attempt as well. I did try before i got my riki back attack and it failed alot. There was one time i nearly got it and Marcus appeared and ruined everything. The frustration of doing things many times is not fun. I prefer to show what happen if you do some mistakes rather than choosing the best.
@@cheapercheapest5580 I know, actually that's a mistake I do a lot too. I sometimes get so nervous I have to stop to think during chain attacks. Well, I hope you keep posting good content, now that this game is getting a bit more attention. I definitely will.
Why are you giving him advice he knows what he's doing
@@umaralam6959 he is a fellow discord member. I know him and he does impressive low level runs. You should check his channel
Okay someone needs to stop this dude
8:29 whoever used a topple art there is a GODDAMN CHAMP
RIGHTTTTTTT
When i was young, I thought lv60 parties were crazy, but this is just INSANE. Topple locking is very op
I couldn’t even dream of doing this lmao
anyone can do this
how well you do is all about strategy and having a plan for every circumstance
topple locking is also probably one of the simplest strategies out there, once you get a topple off the battle is p much over if you don't fuck up
don't get me wrong, this is still impressive bc this person still had to come up with the strategy but the execution barrier is low so anyone can use the same strategy and do it.
what a cool strategy. didn't even know it was possible to keep this boss toppled the whole fight.
Holy shit nice work
Haha!! Again! Again! Another sweeet battle!! It was a "delicate" fight! As we all would strive at a superboss in the night! And will always thrive our builds to make it right!! Nice job! And on the other superbosses as well! Haha!!
I'll be honest. I wonder if there is anyone that hates a certain monster out there in the Xenoblade series like me. Ik it's not just only me! XD Mines would be..
"Ugh! Despotic Arsene.. Don't worry! You're gonna have a taste of my Reyn's driver, once i trigger him to use "SWORD DRIVE" along with "Berserker"! From the chain attack saying "MAX"! Of course there's the "physical def down" debuff that shulk gives when triggering "Slit edge" on the side. But HA! The revenge was sweet when I ended a final blow using "Sword drive" that did over 101K damage! The little guy had like 20% HP left! Damn I laughed on how ridiculous Reyn's Driver did THAT much damage. So ridiculous! Of course I had Reyn's skill tree link with offensive skills. From the other characters such as Melia's skill tree that has offensive and accuracy skills a few of sharla's as well. Also from shulk's skill tree, we got "Ultimate Teamwork" that increases chain attack damage. Also 7's "Showdown Stance" that increases all stats for a limited of time. Also a few of tension up skills from Dunban's skill tree and also for the rest of the party, it's called "Warrior's ambition". I also had a few Defense Skills as well. I DESTROYED Arsene's Hopes and Dreams of dodging my attacks. We have avenge other players that have also struggled in the past from this...THING!"
I don't really hate much enemies from experiences... but there's the spider from Fiora's 5th skill tree, I didn't know his spike caused daze, but I didn't really want to leave the fight so I managed to kill it, but god... it took a while
Congrats. You're now the bestest.
0:25 bruh moment
I'd have quit when I saw that shit tbh. Figured when you're, yknow, fighting a level 120 UM as level 1s you need everything to go perfectly. Apparently not!
Curious, does anyone know _why_ Reyn sometimes can’t use his arts? This problem only happens to Reyn for some strange reason and I don’t know why. I don’t think this was even an issue in the original, if I recall correctly
Matthew Nguyen It’s because he’s too far away. Sometimes the AI just doesn’t get closer for some reason. This can also happen with other characters.
Matthew Nguyen sometimes the ai just isnt good at getting close enough in chain attacks. I’ve got it with shulk
On the subject of new bugs, anyone know why I sometimes just can't use Monado Buster? It's greyed out then sometimes springs into life for no apparent reason. Not too big of an issue since it's the worst Monado art but still
I’m leaving.
This is terrifying
This is what i was wondering when they revealed level down. Now i wonder if its possible with 7 for the lowest level possible
Isn’t her lowest level probably like 40 something?
@@MrStarman926 wait really? I thought they would let you lower it to level 2.
Misha that 7 and the later 7 count as different characters internally I think
@@Lanzeon They do, each character has a minimum level and temp Seven is not counted the same as permanent Seven
the lowest level possible is 1/1/10, Shulk, Reyn, Sharla. Reyn needs level 12 art books and Arts Cooldown Reduction from rikis skills, Topple Plus 6, and back attack 6, Sharla needs a physical build, and level 12 art books for metal blast, and if you want to do it without divine protect, cure round
Very cool!
I wonder what Shulk’s skills are like, oh well. I’ll figure out something.
how did shulk and reyn only level twice?
Diminishing returns from defeating monsters way higher level than you. Once you're more than 20 levels below it trails off hard. When he beat them as level 20 he barely levelled up! That combined with expert mode putting most of the xp in the bank and you get a whopping 103xp. This is why people do tephra cave skips in speedruns to level fast rather than shoving Gogols off cliffs; the same rule doesn't apply to area discoveries
But how did you arrive in this situation
I only get 216 affinty coin without newgame+ did you do newgame+ to get 235 affinty coin
Cheers to you for maximizing the Topple locking and Agility's accuracy range vs high level enemies! Awesome :) How'd you know that 😆
Edit: I noticed your art have XI XII (Is this end game?), wonder if maxed out to XII hits more likely?
You have to do future connected
Wait... WHAT..... HOW?!
Even with topple lock I barely got him with a level 99 party!
He always broke out of topple lock and starting to decimate my party..
How do you keep him locked?
Have you tried using topple plus gems
Gems that extend topple probably
I’m more surprised by how they actually landed the break and topple arts at the beginning
@@bigyoshii Night Vision VI I assume
the uploader used topple VI gems on everybody and made smart use of shulk's battle soul art to maximize opportunities to use monado cyclone.
squeezing out chances to use cyclone seems especially key here since this enemy's reduced topple duration ensures that two topple arts isn't enough to keep him down.
This would be way harder on NG+ with Shulk, considering the level scaling of damage
I feel the monado III would compensate, like, a lot. 75% crit rate, better level scaling than monado abyss, best weapon in the game, etc.
Why not Dunban at level 1 too?
20 is the lowest level the game allows Dunban to be at.
... How do you? okay.
Mods?
Try Sharla, Melia, and Riki uwu
if its not extremely low level, i think its doable. Especially with lv 12 art manuals.
@@cheapercheapest5580 I mostly just wanna see how you use Sharla lol
@@cqllel5186 Sharla is extremely tanky end game especially with all the armor she gets. You can stack aura heal + recovery + heal counter and someone to apply str down gem debuff to Abassy. Lv12 Shield bullet is pretty decent. Drive boost gives Sharla fast cool down for Thunderbullet and her healing kit. Melia and Riki can apply Dots from behind or in Chain attack. Lv22 Riki can actually beat Abaasy with lv 1 Shulk. But the battle is extremely long. Team Ether have much easier time fighting high level enemy because ether resist is not tied to agility. Melia enlightenment further reduce the chance of ether being resisted.
Ok, now do it without divine protect gems, also how many attempts did it take to land that break and topple art at lvl 1 and 20
Imma do this as well now
oh
OH
Okay but like, how'd you even get such a low level party for this.
Expert mode
Devs: NO YOU CANT JUST TOPPLE LOCK THE HARDEST ENEMY IN THE GAME.
You: HaHaHa Boss Go Fallllllll.
103 xp
Bruh
And you only got 3 fucking levels +100XP
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