The FOX BODY is too EXPENSIVE, so what about 94-04 Mustangs?
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- Feeling the high priced fox body blues? Why not a 94-04?
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Fox bodies from first production year is 43 years old. First SN95 model year is nearly 28 years old. These are the new 65-66 Mustang for the Gen X crowd on up😳
Crazy to think like that but makes perfect sense. The SN95s will come into their own soon enough
Only problem is I don't think they will take off like a fox body. They are just one of a kind and are highly sought after cuz of weight. I don't think people are gonna want a newer mustang for racing like the foxbody. I have like 15 grand and am having a hard time finding a foxbody that's decent. But I do live in the north.
I own a 1995 mustang GTS and absolutely love it. Have owned it for over 10 years now
Love the 94 and 95 sn95 GT
My first mustang. 90 LX 5.0L 5spd 79k miles red with all black interior. $4300 bucks!! That was 20+ years ago!! Also bought a 88 GT 5spd 45k miles $7000.
Picked up a 99 Cobra vert in Rio Red for 7K with 73K on the clock. I’ll never sell it. Great car. Love your channel buddy.
Your totally accurate on prices going up! But just need to find them grab them and bring them back. I would love to just have a mustang car lot.
Everything is out of hand these days… makes no damn sense whatsoever! 15 years ago these cars were reasonably priced, aside from the Cobra’s in showroom condition. These days people think a scrap heap is worth it’s weight in gold bars. Just absurdity!
"New Edges" are still SN95's, they are the same chassis wise, the "new edge" name refers to the 99-04 body style but under the sheet metal they are the same.
Love this channel
Thanks again for some SN95 content on your Chanel
I've owned a few fox bodies and loved them, unfortunately I sold the last one about 10 years ago. I currently have a 2001 Cobra. I would love to add another fox to the driveway but if I could find a 96-98 Cobra like the one in this video I would jump on it, I have always loved the look of them. As a side note I would appreciate it if you stopped pushing these cars, I don't want to see their prices start skyrocketing like the fox bodies did. lol
Real talk!
Love that garage man. Mustang nuts seem right there! Wish my garage was full of stuff like that. Only got 1 - 199 foxbody gt lol. Would love to have that f100 that’s on that lift!!!
Nice video, thanks for sharing the information
I paid 6k for my fox a couple years ago. I thought it was high then but today Im glad I bought it. It is a very solid car and rust free which is extremely rare for me to find where I live.
I have a similar story. Here in Massachusetts they are rot boxes. I snagged a minty vert last year and felt I over paid but already seems I could flip it. But it’s too fun to try to replace it.
Just bought a beautiful 35th anniversary model new edge with the 2 tone black and silver interior . 5 speed car for 7 grand. I love it. Performance red
Yeah Bob im from the bahamas i had 4 fox body. I would love to own or buy 1 more but like you say the market for them went up. Can not aforde it
Spelling might be wrong,
Love watching them on line
This was a Good one, Caleb. It was a video like this that got me into your channel, years ago. Great info.
Im a corvette guy now, but got lucky in the 90s and started with a 71 mach 1 and had a few fox bodies back in the day. These videos bring back nostalgia.
I took my 45,000 mile (fully modded) 2000 GT out for a drive yesterday ..........
Modifications:
Exterior:
Steeda GT Splitter
Cobra "R" Hood w/extraction vents
Cobra "R" wing (to keep car on road at 175 mph)
Cobra "R" wheels, powdercoated white
"Roush" rear panel blackout
ATS Sequential rear turn signals
Mach 1 Billet Gas Door
Mach 1 grille delete
Bi-Xenon HID headlights
Interior:
1 of 98 Mustangs with "FR 500" leather seats
Mach 1 pedals
Mach 1 shifter bezel
Whitefaced gages
35% tint
Engine:
Vortech V2 SQ Supercharger
FRP 42# Injectors
Morpheous Power Pipe
"Dragon" ported and polished Intake Elbo
Ford Racing 70mm Throttle Body
Mac cold air kit with K&N filter
Custom “Ferrari Red” Cam Covers
Magnaflow Stainless Cat-Back Exhaust w/X-pipe
Suspension:
Tokico 5-way Adjustable Struts and Shocks
Bullit 13' PBR/Brembo Brakes
Ford Racing "C" Springs
Steeda Lower Control Arms
Steeda Strut Tower Brace
Steeda Offset Steering Rack Bushings
Kenny Brown Panhard Bar
Driveline:
Ford Racing Aluminum Driveshaft
Steeda TriAx shifter
King Cobra Clutch
Steeda Billet clutch quadrant ..... 12.5@111 - 171 mph (GPS) at Talladega Super Speedway......She's a keeper!
The SN95 are built on the fox platform
As was posted, SN95s are 94 through 2004, 94-98 are what I call the "no edge", 99-04 are the "new edge".
How dare you??🤣🤣😂
I had an 85gt, I have a 94GT now you can call it what ever you want. But I get the same love in my 94 as i did in my 85GT.
I got out the foxbody game and got a s550 new,all around the best mustang period......technology has changed...
@Matt Diaz i had 12 grand tied up into a foxbody that was all stock,slow as "F" to today standards,in order to make it have decent power and the car to handle the new power it would've been another 15 grand,for something to pull out once a week weather permitting
If a Fox is too expensive, try out the aero Thunderbirds from that era. They aren't that different in weight, ride better, don't sound like a tin can when you close the door, and you rarely find one that's been rode hard, put away wet, and repaired with bubblegum, chicken wire, and snake oil additives before getting flipped. If you want something light, check out Fairmonts, if you want something more luxurious, try the Lincoln Vii LSC. the hop up parts are the same, you get less attention from the police yet more attention at car shows--no need for Lambo doors and smoked lights to stand out, because so few show up. Buff the paint out, put on your favorite Mustang rims, and there you are.
Sn95 prices are slowly on the rise as well.
Can still find nice examples for 5-8k. But they are rising. They'll sky rocket withen the next 10 years.
@@AircraftMechanic-AP I agree 100%
And none of them are worth the extra money
4 Eyes notch bodies are the best
Bought my 1985 5.0 HO notch new and kept it for 37 yrs now. $9500 bucks for it new.
A 94 95 GTS is absolutely the way to go.. stock for stock, they are just better than the 86-93 cars.
🤣🤣🤣
I live in NC and people are coming from other states digging them out of the woods to take home for the last 2 or 3 years, talked to my friend yesterday as his brother owns about 5 or 6 Fox's and a Terminator, he said down around Durham N.C. where some of the heavy hitters hang, drop top Fox Bodies are the desire now because they made fewer, He knows I have a Triple White 84 LX 5.0 Drop that's bone stock with single pipe and smog pump zero rust car and he wanted to know if I still had it because he could sell it quick, as I picked it up for $3000 about 2 years ago with 94,000 miles showing , my 14 Carolla has 107,000 lol
I started buying Foxbody chassis cars 10years ago, and now the market is good. I couldn't be happier! There are still cheap cars out there, ya just have to be willing to put the time in to find them.
I have owned both foxes and sn95 cars. Both of my sn95's were cobras. I sold them both to go back to a fox. The fox just feels more raw. The sn95 isn't a bad car at all.....and they are fast in there own right. But that refined drive takes away from the American muscle car feel imo.
Im with you 💯💯. I ve had new edge gt and s197 gt500, and neither compared to driving a fox. Its just different. That gt500 did have some powa tho 😎
You want "raw" drive a 71-73 Stang... lol
I think they have the perfect balance of refinement, between today’s cars and classic muscle cars, but it’s subjective…I owned a Fox in the 90s but since 2003 and up I’ve had many sn95s and prefer them…
@@NewEdgeDesigns I can agree that the sn95/new edge are better cars. They drive better, ride better, etc. But they do not feel like a fox. They don't sound like a fox. The refinements take away the raw driver's feeling. The fox is a special car for many of us. For all it's shortcomings, it is the most flexible platform out there IMO. That said, I would gladly own a new edge. But I wouldn't choose one over a fox.
I always owned a fox growing up. I always wanted a terminator so i finally bought one last year. I want to put a fox besides it one day again. My 2 fav cars
Here in Richmond,VA area it's near impossible to find one that's not been beat in to the ground. And for low miles you better have $10Racks or better for SN95 alone!🙌💯✌
Hello from Williamsburg! You have a fox or sn95?
@@3props_does666 Not anymore😭😭 lol... Previously had 91' LX 5.0HO Convertible in early 2000s and a 98' GT Convertible in mid 2000s.
I'm now on the outside looking in waiting for the right new edge Mach-1 or nice GT to come across that's not an 💪and🦵... 😄✌ how about yourself?
About to get started on my (hopefully last) build. 89 lx w a one kit. Been waiting about 7 years to build it.
Hey don’t forget about Mercury Capri their out there too and not as pricey because most people don’t know about them .
I love my 87 Gt and my 98 Gt vert both need some work but i love em
Im original owner of a 95 GTS , black, 5sp , i have modified through out the yrs, sleeper look , have kept all original parts , has been getting more looks last couple yrs , runs very strong , wheels up lol .
The 94-95 5.0 SN95 market is up just as much, as well as 94-98 Cobras.
I'm a hard-core foxbody guy - I have two. The SN95s are better cars 100%.
I am a FOX NUT TOO but I might be getting out of mine. I have a 90 convertible that has a short block 306 all motor pushing 456 Ponies out it, but I have no time to do it back up the top went bad I ripped it off bought a new 1 from AMERICAN MUSCLE is my spot and never put it on and it has been outside and I have been trying my hardest to keep it inside buy lost my garage so now I've been trying to keep it covered. And it did get some water in it but it's not killed it will start right up. It was bought by my friend and I loved the car and he did too so we kept it in the family. But I can't stand to see it sit in my yard on pavers. It has a lot of work done to it I lost out on getting the vortex charger where it had almost 850 HP I was told and that hurt me. But I might be thinking of letting it go. The back OH it was built in south Carolina if I'm right if not it was NC then. It was named SLIMER, SLIME GREEN PAINT no back seat a sub box was built in it's spot nice hood LX body 5 star white ROUSH Racing rims 18's I think this is how long I haven't looked at it but it needs a good Home IT'S STILL A BEAUTIFUL CAR TO ME BUT I don't have the means or the time. What should I DOOOOO!!!
And it's not beat to the ground but I didn't put a Saleen wing on it was looking to go with the clone so I put the whale tale on it I don't know what to do a long time ago before they got famous I put it up for 9 to see if someone would bite but only Craigslist and got a bite from a guy with a fully frame redone older bronco buy it didn't peak my interest.
Well because of channels like this they are going to start going up in value as LOL well especially 94-95 cars and the new Edge cars are very popular like the Mach 1 and terminators are bringing in the big money
Love you channel bro, we have a new edge 2000 me and my son are building because of your channel :) more new edge videos please 🤙
Another plus for the SN95/New Edge is the trunk space and the pass thru rear seats. Especially with a coupe, there is almost no trunk space. ABS is nice too, if it works. LOL.
Prices are definitely insane. What I paid $5500 for ten years ago on a clean Notch 5.0 5 speed is going for around $13k now, and they aren't even in good condition. It all started when Dennis Collins sold off his Foxbody collection. People started asking stupid prices for ragged out junk as if they were gold plated
Prices are insane because idiots keep paying those price... Fox bodies are 5 to 10k cars... PERIOD
@@Supertramp01 Yep, if people would refuse to buy and let these cars sit in people's driveways the prices would drop
@@scwaty180 It truly blows my mind what people are selling and buying these cars for.. I love them but they simply arent worth the money... Its like people are panic buying them like toilet paper during the china virus! Or they think they are getting a 100k collectable.. They are FOOLS
@@Supertramp01 unfortunately I'm one that has at least started looking for the next model up. Pretty much settled for an 04 Mach 1, but even there is hard to find one that's stock. Guess I'll always be on the lookout for that unbelievable deal on a nice fox but it's kinda like looking for a unicorn, lol
@Jason Shenk You're right... because they aren't worth looking at for that kinda money hahahahaha
I think I'll hold on to my stock 04 Cobra for a weebit longer...
So happy just got a fox as my first car last year knowing they were goin up like crazy
Got my SN95 pushrod in December. I keep looking for great content creators on TH-cam. Some here and there. This is why I glean from Fox channels too.
glad i got my fox for $2700
I love my new edge GT but i really wanna upgrade to the newer 5.0 but i think the new edge is the best looking mustang made in the last 50 yrs.
Wanted a fox body and saw how high the prices were. I did not want a sn95 or new edge. So I went looking for 83-88 t-bird/cougar (you can find good ones for under $5k all day) I ended up with a 88 Oxford white Mercury Cougar XR7.
I’ve had a couple of extended fox chassis…Thunderbird, turbo coupe, cougar, Lincoln mark 7…I love them..I think 2/3 of all the cars I’ve owned were Fox chassis..
94-95 S351 i will own one
Already rolling in a 95. Iv had a few Fox bodies the price for a decent fox is way out of line.
Bring back the FORD PINTOS AND FORD MAVERICK 2-door V8, V6, Straight in-line six cylinder engine’s, up grade there fuel system’s.
Or the FORD Galaxy 500 2-door.
Now LETS SEE HOW MUCH THESES FORDS INCREASE IN VALUES TOO.
Love sn95s and but foxes just have that raw feel that sn95s don’t have
Idk man sn95 are pretty raw. They are better made and put together cars. They are better setup factory with 5 lug, 4 wheel disks, more room for wide tires, better made interior and exterior and they are stiffer better handling cars and only weigh maybe 100 lbs more give or take they aren't that heavy and look great modded right. For the amount extra foxes cost it isn't worth it imo. I love both I've had at least 3 of both cars so I'm very familiar with what they bring to the table. Back when I had my foxes early 2000s you could find nice foxes everywhere for 3-6 grand. Not the case nowadays the prices are just stupid on them. They are rising on the sn cars as well. For the money the sn is easily the better car.
@@midnight347 I’ve owned both sn95. My sn95 was a pushrod and still wasn’t raw like a fox. Of coarse it’s much better because technology was advancing with time.
Glad I scooped up my fox’s before the price went up
This is why I bought my New Edge almost 2 years ago, people were offering me over double what New Edges were worth for my 87 5.0 coupe. Guess what there gonna be the next hype car give it 10 years or so there going to be bringing in foxbody money. And I'd like to pick up another New Edge GT stick car as an investment and a toy in the mean time. I don't really see the 95-98 mustangs getting as much love as the New Edges will and I don't think they'll get the same amount of hype as the New Edges will get in the future. Don't get me wrong a clean lowered Sn95 is badass, but it was kind of a one step back, 2 steps forward kind of car.
Well I get offers to buy my 94GT sn95, every day. I bought it new in 1994 and it's not going any where.
Thunderbird Turbo Coupe. Most fun solid foxbody made. 2 cents given
I've owned 87 fox body with a 302 and a f150 with a coyote 5.0 3 valve . The coyote is a beast out the box compared to a worked over push rod 302. Plus with the coyote you can just jump in with no pushing the gas pedal turn the and go. My push rod v8 has the Mustang lope and chop. I do miss that exhaust note from the push rod . The Coyote has a wider useable power range HP and Torque. Man it's a really hard call.
Yes, Caleb, you are indeed breaking my heart. I'm still at least a yr from being able to make my initial investment, and already twice I have had to rework the numbers. I'm not nearly as enthusiastic about making the expense as I am about the opportunity to really get to know the Foxbody.
The only way I’d ever get a new edge is a Mach 1 or terminator… maybe a low mileage bullet
I drove a 96 GT and a 93 GT at one point. I like them both. But to get into the Mustang gang. It doesn't matter to me. I'll own a 94 to 98 GT. I grew with those cars being new. You can do the same amount of damage's to them to be killer. Even if founding a V6 SN95 for super cheap. Is my best bet. Gotta be prepared for the unexpected with any Mustang. I'll make a V6 Mustang my own since they are cheaper and not as beat to hell. Just with a lot of miles on the clocks. But I want an 94 to 98 to get the ball rolling.
My 86 GT fox was stolen 20yrs ago,still hope i get it back lol . Wondering if i can get some help getting another one. Im not to prod to ask.
Hey Caleb whatever happened to Jason‘s black lx ?
For sale cheap: I have a black on black 92 Gt 5spd with documented 92k miles for sale in ME. It wouldn't start a couple years ago so its been sitting. Not sure why it wouldnt start but its probably simple. Zero rust. You could eat off the strut towers and tourqe boxes. I've owned 7 or 8 foxs and this is the tightest one. I'd like $5,000 remember thats with mint black interior. Comes with new fuel pump, new full 3g alt kit, 4" cowl hood and saleen spoiler. Identifal to this LX here but a GT. The car is not posted for sale anywhere except here. May also trade for a daily car/truck worth the same value. Thanks
you still have the car?
@@benfarr6049 I do
Lowered SN with a 351 based stroker swap is how i went. I would probably buy another Lincoln Mark Vii before i bought a Fox. But i like being a little different.
Fox Bodies are still the cheaper cool car of their era, besides Camaros and Corvettes are cheaper. Foxes are going up but you can find a excellent notchback under 30K-40K, cheaper ones are out there. Grand Nationals, 90’s RX-7s, Supras, and 3000 GT are unaffordable for most. The prices will balance out once our generation (late 30’s-late 40’s) move on to something else, it’s the gotta have it car for now.
An excellent notch for under 40k!?!? LMFAO... Those aren't worth 10k.. I have an 01 cobra with 7800 original miles on it... what's that worth...100k?
The shitty ride and all the fuckin rattles,really brings back memories.Wheres my cheque book.For christ sakes.
Yeah I been looking at a 99-04 and doing a coyote swap
Down here in FL there 's some people charging 12k for New Edge GT's, they're about even with the Foxes. Now, SN's on the other hand are still on the cheaper end so I guess get one before those go up! Lol
This is so true.
And I sold my 1989 FOX 🦊 BODY FASTBACK LX WAY TOO CHEEP, I sold it for 900. I owed my mechanic repair money to my automobile.
I had no other way to come up with the money 😢😢😢😭😭😭
S197 Rules
Thats where I'd put my money.. better car for the same price
Let me just say, I Love fox bodies. But imo, a stock Terminator will bring more money than MOST stock Fox bodies. I think for investment purposes, The Teminator is the one to get. I think the new edge body style is the one you want to get into an inexpensive mustang.
Caleb Id love to see a video on Ttop foxes Any info on numbers produced etc I got an 88 AOD Bright Regetta Blue Ttop. Rare? Hook it up! Thanks
I think the 99-04 is the nicest looking mustang. The foxbody thing is all about nostalgia and that's it. They're way overpriced for what you get. I don't think the pushrod argument isn't a good one because I've been seeing so many coyote swaps and of course the dreaded LS swap🙄 the new edge cars are just better and safer vehicles. I've owned over 10 foxbody mustangs so I'm not really missing anything. But I've also seen some very decent drivable foxbodies for 10k.
I got my 91 Fox LX 5.0 in November 2021 for 10k canadian. Mint mint interior, did suspension overhaul (shocks, springs, links) and new headers. I stole this car legit for 10k, I have one video about it on my channel.
Don't get me wrong but I love the mustangs but the prices are crazzy. I have had my first car since I was 18 it's a 85 thunderbird and I'm putting a coyote in it. I just picked up another 85 thunderbird with a 125,000 original miles on it it's a 5.0 none ho but still sweet needs some love but I mean I only payed $200 for it lol and it's a foxbody to they are also getting hard to find and people don't car for them I guess but I would say there a good start if u can't afford a stang
You might have to rename the channel “fox 4 cast media
Aren’t the New Edge Mustangs actually SN 95 Mustangs? I thought the SN95 ran from the 1994 model year, through the 2004 model year.
Caleb, where can I find headlights like on the black fox ?
I found a 89 mustang gt complete car for 2100 n scheduled to look at it next n guy sold it before I could get there n I was upset
Totally agree about prices on foxes, but the New Edge Mustangs are not too far behind, finding unmodded/ jacked up New edge Mustangs are getting rare to find. Great video Caleb.
I live in Ohio and just bought a 02 mineral gray gt with 77,123 original miles from South Carolina for $13,500. All original condition, leather seats aren’t even cracked. Everyone said I could’ve bought a cobra for that much but this damn thing is clean and around here that’s very hard to find (rust). Gonna keep it forever as I’ve wanted one since I was 16. To the neigh sayers out there, find one that’s as clean and as original as mine for less and I’ll be very surprised. Money comes and goes but these cars are special and will only go up in price in years to come.
@@johncampbell500 Nice,great find!!
SN95 & New Edge have nicer interior, nicer dash and seats.
would a 98 cobra have an performance advantage over a fox with bolts on?
Where can I find the pdf for the part list for the coyote swap?
Lucky I got my fox for free just got to fix all the problems with it 😅😅
I would like a 94-5....worked on them when new
I have a 92 notchback 5.0 it’s hard to find a parts car without it being crazy price. Its better to find a late 90’s -05 mustang gt then the foxbody or sn1 mustangs
SN95 is 94 to 04... New edge refers to the body change in 99
I am of two minds on the SN95's. I liked them when they were new. I don't dislike them now. Definitely not a bad car, especially with some Maximum Motorsports goodies added. Despite the way everyone hates on the 3v engine I can't manage to convince myself it wouldn't be better to go a hair newer and pick up an S197 instead.
I can’t agree more, like you said sn95s are better in every way…🤣🤣🤣🤣
What about the s197 you can get them for a reasonable price I got my 07 gt for 7200. Can you do a video on s197 05-09 and your personal thoughts pros n cons on these cars
We have a lot of haters out there! On what people are paying for cars. Well I must be one of those idiots also, when I was 20 years old I bought a new 1986 LX hatchback with the GT package owned it for 9 years put over 85000 miles on it sold it for $3000. And kicking myself for selling every since! So about two years ago I found a very rare color combination 1994 GT convertible with only 17,775 miles on it and paid $15,675. And I have put over $6000 in it already. A week ago had some lady in the parking lot asked if I wanted to sale it. Hell NO I'll never sale it as of its only less than 25,000 miles on it
I have a 90 GT and a 97 Cobra I love the fox more but the Cobra is a nicer driver.
Look on eBay there's some selling for $23,000 and that's people bidding and $20,000 those cars have went through the roof and they're only going to go up quick with the scrap price the way it is right now a lot of people has those car sitting in the yard and look at it like a junk car but scrap is up so a lot of them cars are going to disappear a matter of fact my friend just crushed one of those cars it was a 50 convertible and I could show you a picture of it too with him crushing it it's g money Auto crushing
Get a 94 or 95 cobra. 5.0 pushrod engine and way better car then fox. There you go.
Where is your coyote?
How do you know lol
stay off ebay bought a 1995 s351 on ebay last year from California seller swapped out supercharged stroker motor and replaced with worn out 5.0 and t5. ebay did nothing to help. car has been in my garage since motor out of car in pieces transmission in scrap yard. car is for sale now and I am going to lose my ass on it. I like this channel and your content just wanted to worn anyone looking at a mustang on ebay their buyer protection is a scam.
seen your add on scabs list... Cant believe EBAY wouldn't cover that
@EverythingWicked yeah ebay said since the car is a 95 it doesn't fall under buyer protection which is totally wrong. someone contacted me from California that knew the seller and was at his shop when he was swapping out the new 347 stroker supercharged engine before he shipped it to me.
10 to 15k is nothing these days.
Can't even buy a new Honda civic for 20k.
In my opinion the SN95 interior holds it back. Not that the Aero Foxbody has an amazing interior but the formed rubber / plastic dash M&M styling in the SN95 is especially hideous. Even in the Terminator.
You can get really nice foxes for 25 to 35 grand still.
Buy one while they're cheap!
I have a 90 coupe.. with a gen 2 6r80 on a pallet 80k miles.. that I'll be selling.. comes with control pack by pbh..upr k member new in box..14k.. car needs paint..I have new visors..carpet that goes with it..cervini 4 inch hood..
I've got a vortech supercharged 87 mustang GT with 60,000 miles. Have no interest on selling 🤑🤑
I’m considering selling my ‘93 GT. Reef Blue/Titanium. 118000 mi (190000 Km in Canada). Loaded w/leather minty no rust, mostly original aside from all the bolt-ons. Owned it for 11 yrs. Bone stock when purchased. All work done by Ford Master Tech (me). I would sink the $ into my ‘70 Duster.
Any takers? Lol