Trombone Lessons: Developing Range

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  • @Pantheragatos
    @Pantheragatos 10 ปีที่แล้ว +53

    Air creates the sound just remember that. He's right, don't try to push out the high notes etc.. It's the air, not making some weird embouchure. I like your sound and how you explain things.

  • @MartinFracker
    @MartinFracker 10 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    This really makes me want to start hitting the practice room regularly. I wish I had more time!!

  • @brianc.mcguire9263
    @brianc.mcguire9263 6 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Hey Christopher Bill!
    I just wanted you to know I am having favorable results with range development. F above the staff in first position was my comfort range. I can now play notes like high G, high A, and high Bb in phrases or in concert with other notes. I am continuously working on increasing my range as well.
    Thanks for sharing your knowledge.
    Keep making quality videos.

  • @Warcrafter
    @Warcrafter 10 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I have been doing these exercises for a month and a half and when i started i could shakely hit an F (two ledger line above bass clef) now I can shakely hit the D above that! It's amazing how far ive come. Ill be the envy of all the brass players in my high school band.

  • @JessieVesco
    @JessieVesco 10 ปีที่แล้ว

    CHRIS YOURE THE COOLEST OMG like Ive had a few requests to play one of your arrangements.... And Ive been dying to play one myself and post it on my channel, but the range is pretty extreme for me at the moment. But Ive been doing these exercises from this video (and a few others as well) and my range is gradually increasing and ah Chris thank you this makes me so happy xD

  • @bg1973
    @bg1973 8 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Helped me with my school music class thx

  • @snuklens
    @snuklens 6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    This year we had an etude that stayed above the staff for the entire piece. It was my first time seeing a high Bb on paper.

  • @katienoiles470
    @katienoiles470 10 ปีที่แล้ว +21

    You.. I like you. xD Seriously though, this is awesome I've been looking for someone who plays trombone and who actually knows what they're talking about. I have a solo coming up and there are some crazy high notes! This is helping. Haha thank you so much! Plus you're an amazing player. :3

    • @maxd6669
      @maxd6669 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      hows your career

  • @57Easteregg
    @57Easteregg 9 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Hey Chris! My first marching season in high school has just ended at the start of my fourth year on trombone, and I am switching to bass trombone. I am incredibly excited, and will start next semester, and my range has increased on the lower register exponentially. There is only one problem. I still can not confidently hit a pedal F. I have worked my range very often for a decently long time now, trying to do it once a day, and I can not hit it yet. Do you have any tips other than these specific range exercises?

  • @tromboneninja13
    @tromboneninja13 11 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thanks, I've been looking for something like this forever; I've found that I can hit notes like high c and d comfortably, but I have trouble locking onto the B-flat for some reason and this should help me be a bit more comfortable in that range

  • @jthusany
    @jthusany 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Listen to the nice and clean sounds. Will get there one day.

  • @MrJakers12345
    @MrJakers12345 10 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    thannk you for all of these lessons you are awesome

  • @QueenFondue
    @QueenFondue 10 ปีที่แล้ว +32

    They're not high notes.
    They're upper low notes.

    • @SammyBoe
      @SammyBoe 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yeah it right for trumpet not trombone

  • @LesbianWitchAcademia
    @LesbianWitchAcademia 10 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Alright so I play baritone. Which essentially is the same as far as range goes right? I just wanna know, is the low F he's talking about the standard "run of the mill, everyday" F that's 4th line on the staff? Thanks

    • @minimarly
      @minimarly 10 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Yeah, I'm pretty sure we both have the same range, although I think the baritone can go a bit lower and we a bit higher. Oh, and he is also talking about the 4th line F :)

    • @philipem1000
      @philipem1000 10 ปีที่แล้ว

      Baritone BC or TC? From the description I assume BC.
      Trombone and Baritone have a similar range but the Baritone range is a bit higher and a bit lower, as I believe Baritones can go below the low E natural that is low 7th position on a tenor trombone. (Well so can trombones, there is just a break from E natural to Bflat (pedal tone)).
      In this he starts at the midrange F (fourth staff line in BASS clef); and plays up two octaves, the F above the staff which is sort of the top of the midrange as I think of it. Someone can correct me if I'm wrong but that's the F above middle C.
      Most high school music for trombones rarely goes higher. He goes then to the F above that!And I've never been there. I have never tried to get above the Bflat above the F above middle C.
      Plus he talks about going an octave higher yet!

    • @seangriffin5967
      @seangriffin5967 10 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      The baritone usually has only three valves, so it's range is pretty much the same as a tenor trombone with no F-attachment, although the baritone can generally go a bit higher. However, if a trombone does have the F-attachment, then it can go down past the low E under the bass clef, although it definitely starts to sound muddy if you don't have a large bore tenor or a bass. Since baritones generally do not have a fourth valve (which is equivalent to the f-attachment), the next lowest note after E would be a pedal B-flat, completely skipping all those notes between the two. If, when you say baritone, you mean euphonium, which is probably what you play since the baritone is not as common, then you probably have a fourth valve, since MOST euphoniums do, and you will be able to sort of go between E and pedal B-flat, but if it isn't compensating then you will skip a note.

    • @Erichx14
      @Erichx14 10 ปีที่แล้ว

      He is talking about the F in the middle of bass clef

    • @TheMrPancakeface
      @TheMrPancakeface 10 ปีที่แล้ว

      +Sean Griffin my baritone has four valves, but I can only hit a fifth below the target F, and I can't play lower than the low F. I converted from trumpet this year

  • @NotSkilledHere
    @NotSkilledHere 11 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    great video!! I do have a question though. Im in high school and can occasionally hit the high f or extreme pedal tones, but I tend to shift my lips around as i go up to hit the high notes and evolve into using only one lip for my pedal tones. Is that acceptable or should I work to correct that. My teacher says it sounds fine and seems content to leave it where it is for now, but should I focus on changing that so that I don't have to move my lips or mouthpiece on my face so much? granted the horn never truly does leave my face. thanks :) keep up the great work!!

    • @classicaltrombone
      @classicaltrombone  11 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      A shift is necessary at some point, both high and low- but it means you won't be able to play a phrase which has notes on either side of a shift. The exercises I use in this video (not taking your lips off the mouthpiece between notes) help to develop the range without these shifts, so definitely try them out and see how it feels.

    • @NotSkilledHere
      @NotSkilledHere 11 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Christopher Bill ok thank you!! It is very helpful!! Working on it everyday!!!

    • @donovanbryant1874
      @donovanbryant1874 7 ปีที่แล้ว

      Christopher Bill do you use the trigger during the first exercise or is that cheating?

    • @eyo31abe
      @eyo31abe 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      the higher notes get closer together so most of them can be played in first... no trigger :)

  • @brendaaymerich3316
    @brendaaymerich3316 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    you are awesome, I reaaly get what you teach us. I love your others videos!! Thank you very much!!!

  • @roykillough8492
    @roykillough8492 9 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    any advice for Bass Trombone players? i am assuming that the exercises are the same but are there any specifics for the people who play that type of horn?

    • @deniskim2455
      @deniskim2455 9 ปีที่แล้ว

      +Roy Killough ayy mah boi roy

  • @MedicMuffin
    @MedicMuffin 10 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    What kind of mouthpiece do you use?

  • @connorwozniak1469
    @connorwozniak1469 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    Very helpful thank you

  • @nickcyrus8706
    @nickcyrus8706 10 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Very helpful

  • @codystinson2333
    @codystinson2333 8 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thank you!!!! I now can hit the double octave Eb!!!! (And I'm proud of myself cuz I'm only a freshman XD) Hope my low range can get a little better too!!!

    • @josephthouvenin9692
      @josephthouvenin9692 7 ปีที่แล้ว

      do you mean scale?

    • @BigMcLarge
      @BigMcLarge 7 ปีที่แล้ว

      Honored Ninja lmao I'm just wondering what a double octave Eb is

  • @ajax8885
    @ajax8885 9 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I'm learning trombone from Tube experience, I'm in high school and I'd like to know what the highest note I'd have to play would be, so I know when I can be comfortable with my range.

    • @Jack-dx3wo
      @Jack-dx3wo 9 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      There really is no limit. Most pieces in high school won't have you going past an F4 (the F first F above the bass clef staff). However, it is good to constantly be extending your range. Certain pieces (especially in jazz band) may have you up on a Bb4. But for starters, I'd work on just being able to play a one octave Bb scale, and just inch your way above that, note by note.

    • @BigMcLarge
      @BigMcLarge 7 ปีที่แล้ว

      Ajax if you're still in high school, the lowest note I've had to play in classical literature was a Bb1, with the highest being an A4, but when I did Jazz, I had to go up to Eb5. Jazz almost always requires a great upper register for lead playing.

  • @banki0142
    @banki0142 8 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    +Christopher Bill what do you mean by support you air stream and also what is a pedal Bb?

    • @yyyy1885
      @yyyy1885 8 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      He means push the air continuously and in a controlled way. Also; a pedal Bb is the Bb an octave below the low Bb on the staff, which is a Bb1. Pedal notes are essentially all 1st octave notes.

    • @banki0142
      @banki0142 8 ปีที่แล้ว

      +Triffton thanks :)

  • @broclubdudes
    @broclubdudes 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    I have to play crazy high notes in jazz band on my trombone so this is very helpful thx. Ps to anyone reading this comment I have a channel in process called Sid's trombone lessons

  • @keyblademastersora43
    @keyblademastersora43 10 ปีที่แล้ว

    So i'm a bass trombone player playing on a schilke 59 and my range is growing quickly,but my tone starts to become very poor past B natural just above the staff, does anyone have any tips?

    • @evano8312
      @evano8312 9 ปีที่แล้ว

      More more air open your mouth as much as possible

  • @DukeyGames
    @DukeyGames 11 ปีที่แล้ว

    I play baritone so it's kind of the same instrument, but I was wondering if you can do double pedal tones and if you could do a video tutorial on doing them.

  • @samorioussealey8267
    @samorioussealey8267 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    Christopher bill can you make a video how to build endurance for trombone

  • @tappanzeebridgemen9657
    @tappanzeebridgemen9657 10 ปีที่แล้ว

    AH! The Caruso studies!

  • @alexconnolly5448
    @alexconnolly5448 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    yo just sayin that this stuff really works thanks t-bone fam!!!
    #2020

  • @immortalmecha8770
    @immortalmecha8770 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    So what your saying is practice your chromatic scale?

  • @DaReal601
    @DaReal601 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    So the first passage was a 3 octave F scale??

  • @heavensquintanilla8731
    @heavensquintanilla8731 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    Can someone tell me what trombone is that

  • @khalid5297
    @khalid5297 10 ปีที่แล้ว

    How do you hit a fourth octave C on trigger bone

  • @ItsMe-ic5oc
    @ItsMe-ic5oc 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    0:37 "Assuming you cant quite get there yet", yeah I can barely get an octave below that

  • @abnerdavid1348
    @abnerdavid1348 8 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    hola como estas si me podrias ayudarme en español las lecciones

  • @skinnymon123
    @skinnymon123 9 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    for me, high b flat above the f is always in my music

  • @thesneakyfoxtss
    @thesneakyfoxtss 9 ปีที่แล้ว

    I can hit the highest octave but I can not hit the low notes which you didn't show.

  • @davidbucher4095
    @davidbucher4095 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    Christian Lindberg has a good lesson on this. See his lessons videos.

  • @devinscicluna9878
    @devinscicluna9878 10 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Have you thought of teaching? Lol great points.

  • @fionacobb5461
    @fionacobb5461 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    There should be a full orchestra of TH-cam musicians

  • @BruceWayne-dx3sn
    @BruceWayne-dx3sn 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    "So if you can do that already, without taking your lips off the horn and without pushing the horn so far into your face that it's behind you."

  • @dogunboundhounds9649
    @dogunboundhounds9649 11 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    All you beginners don't listen you are really NOT supposed to roll your lips in but he has his methods, but I am not questioning him

    • @classicaltrombone
      @classicaltrombone  11 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I agree, to a point. The idea of the exercise in this video is to be able to develop the entire range WITHOUT changing your lips. I do roll my lip in, but it's after the high F and I see it as an extended technique- not a part of normal trombone techniques. (also, I don't think I mentioned rolling the lip in at all in this video?)

    • @dogunboundhounds9649
      @dogunboundhounds9649 11 ปีที่แล้ว

      In a different video i watched sorry

    • @classicaltrombone
      @classicaltrombone  11 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Yeah totally. It's my own method to get extreme notes- if you find a different way that works, I say go for it.

  • @Hababa2
    @Hababa2 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    1:53 can relate

  • @Hababa2
    @Hababa2 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    I have three years of experience and I've already had to play a high G in a couple pieces

  • @maku3896
    @maku3896 10 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    How....nevermind. The answer is practice.

  • @samlauer8855
    @samlauer8855 7 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    I can play higher on tuba than trombone

    • @shracid7898
      @shracid7898 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Chargers Hackenberg lol same, i can hit a f above the staff no problem on tuba and trombone feels weird

  • @shadowedassassin5463
    @shadowedassassin5463 8 ปีที่แล้ว

    the high f your talking about thats before the high Bb above the staff right

    • @tristanchisholm5857
      @tristanchisholm5857 8 ปีที่แล้ว

      shadowed assassin No, the "elusive high F" is large top line of the treble clef

    • @Striker2able
      @Striker2able 7 ปีที่แล้ว

      shadowed assassin it's the F above the high Bb

  • @LuisRivera-lr7mo
    @LuisRivera-lr7mo 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Is that 3 octave 🤤

  • @nevaehrichardson4120
    @nevaehrichardson4120 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    I play trumbone

  • @emilymiller1458
    @emilymiller1458 10 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I can't play the high f and I play an f horn

  • @verdact_1561
    @verdact_1561 9 ปีที่แล้ว

    Can you play the spongebob theme song

  • @mirandateboh-ewungkem7403
    @mirandateboh-ewungkem7403 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    How do you get so high you sound like a flute

  • @trumoo7436
    @trumoo7436 8 ปีที่แล้ว

    I put part of my top lip on the top of my mouth piece

  • @gregkeane8832
    @gregkeane8832 10 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    F's up there ???? No chance !!! C yeah but no way up to an F for me .... I'll stick with 3 1/2 octave range for now on a Bach 50B twin valve or my Olds Bb/F .. LOL

  • @isaacbrydon3254
    @isaacbrydon3254 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I can play higher on a trombone than and soprano trumpet.

  • @natureguitarrunman2637
    @natureguitarrunman2637 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    ok

  • @dh055raptor
    @dh055raptor 10 ปีที่แล้ว

    this is like impossible on my yls354

  • @thesneakyfoxtss
    @thesneakyfoxtss 9 ปีที่แล้ว

    nvr mnd.

  • @dannydevitoissexy5180
    @dannydevitoissexy5180 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    2019? No ok.

  • @JessieVesco
    @JessieVesco 10 ปีที่แล้ว

    CHRIS YOURE THE COOLEST OMG like Ive had a few requests to play one of your arrangements.... And Ive been dying to play one myself and post it on my channel, but the range is pretty extreme for me at the moment. But Ive been doing these exercises from this video (and a few others as well) and my range is gradually increasing and ah Chris thank you this makes me so happy xD