Honestly, the salty handshake at the end makes a lot of sense. M2K was on fire that day, and he just wrapped up double eliminating Mango. He dominated PeePee the first time on FD, and there was little to no reason he should have lost the second time. This coupled with the fact that M2K desperately wanted to re-match Armada and beat him makes for a very sad end to The King's Apex 2013 run.
On game 5, I don't understand why he went for the run off counter which got him PP's first stock but he also SD'd (especially cause a run off weak hit fair would have done the job and it was pretty easy to hit too). You could tell he was pretty rattled for the rest of the game after that. Still a great set though.
Words cannot describe how proud I am of Jason "M2K" Zimmerman.Keep that marth pimp hand strong man and you will win again...Oh so close! and yet The King has returned
Skill-wise M2K is on par with anybody. I think on pure skill M2K is the best alongside Armada. It's just he doesn't really have that strong of a mentality or mindgames to help him succeed to championship level.
abcdefghijk890989098 did you even read the rest of the comment? He has trouble beating top-5 players because he doesn't have mixups and mind games like they do. He's perfect 99% of the time in what he does, but he always does the most optimal option, which makes him predictable. That's the only reason he loses to anyone.
CoBeX31 How does that make him "on par with everyone skill wise" then? Believe it or not, his "mix-ups and mindgames"(which is a gross simplification btw", are a place where he has less skill then the others of the top 6(at that point)
Come on m2k... So damn close. I was kinda torn on this one since these two are probably my favorite smashers, but I hated seeing m2k at #17 last year. Honestly, if he beat pp here, he would have had a HUGE chance at beating armada seeing how he was playing throughout the tourney.
So close to seeing M2K vs Armada rematch in GFs..that would've been the ultimate but this set was good and PP's Marth taking a set in GF's was close enough.
5:39 that was the highlight of the tournament for me. M2k is fucking SCARY when hes playing on point, PP was shitting his pants. Still cant believe m2k lost this set D:
You're not allowed to go back to the LAST stage you won on. In this case, the last stage M2K won on was Pokemon Stadium, so he would not be allowed to counter pick PS.
I cant believe its 2013, i was playing this back when i was 14 and still am to this day. I remember getting the internet and finding a guy called isai, and Aniki and thinking holy jesus wtf is this. and organizing lan partys the good old days. now the wife wont let me do shit :(
I thought you weren't allowed to go back to a stage you won at? m2k picked FD after losing the first match, won there, and picked it for the last match too
+PhazeShift The rule checking was to see if his most preferred counterpick stage was available to him so it's pretty much something he wanted for sure. Not to mention that he lost the previous set, he definitely had not so much momentum going.
So? I know it's Apex, but it's called being a good sport. I saw plenty of people get knocked out who immediately stood up and shook hands with their opponent (actual solid handshake with eye contact). You can be a good sport and upset you lost at the same time, ya know.
I still love 15:00 and onward. HBox comes in to give him the rules, Cactuar says bitch I made those rules and they go and google mDSR on cactuar's phone.
I don't think that was a tech flub. He was literally in the perfect position and didn't even need to dash dance. Plus, you can't see the total look of indignation that usually goes with a M2K tech blunder LOL.
From my understanding it's when you short hop toward an opponent, like you're going to shffl, but instead you don't attack. This often causes the enemy to shield and you just grab instead.
Marth started to let him win after the first match. I can tell by the way he played in the next round cause i've done the same for people in smash. Judging by hi facial expressions he knew he it too. Worst thing to do to another gamer is to take pity on them.
i don't think i would have that total indignation look if my flub resulted in a grab, accompanied by cheers from the crowd. but yeah that probably wasn't a mistake either haha, m2k is redic
this is an AMAZING set good stuff to PP bringing the first game back when he was losing 4:25 is a mindgame, not a tech flub imo m2k utterly dominated game 2 5:40 good stuff to pp taking game 4, m2k dropped that combo hard the ruleset stall was dumb tho, PP forgot the rules? Bullshit, he got a 5 minute break to figure out what he was doing wrong and calm down. obviously the last game is disappointing on both ends, no hype :/
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12:31 was fucking brilliant.
PP uses the rising platform and gets the edge cancelled phantasm. That was ridiculous...
22:32 what the fuck was that ?
Pure salt
Honestly, the salty handshake at the end makes a lot of sense. M2K was on fire that day, and he just wrapped up double eliminating Mango. He dominated PeePee the first time on FD, and there was little to no reason he should have lost the second time. This coupled with the fact that M2K desperately wanted to re-match Armada and beat him makes for a very sad end to The King's Apex 2013 run.
this wasn t the first time to dominated peepee
On game 5, I don't understand why he went for the run off counter which got him PP's first stock but he also SD'd (especially cause a run off weak hit fair would have done the job and it was pretty easy to hit too). You could tell he was pretty rattled for the rest of the game after that. Still a great set though.
Shouldn't be allowed to go FD twice anyways way too one sided for Marth would've been super wack and unfair for PP if he lost
12:40 "WHAT JUST HAPPENED?!" "...up b?"
+Zenrion Do we know what happened? Was that a glitch? It looked like PP had started slow ledge getup so he should've been invincible, right?
+boness nah he did a slow get up attack, M2K hit him at the start of his vulnerability
+Arashi Kariudo I was just quoting the commentator anyway, lol
Love the announcers. Love the players. Holy shit these tournaments don't ever stop being incredible.
This was a legendary era.
Yo the start of game 3 at 5:39.
M2KDGAF.
back when no one was complaining about controllers
You could tell he was bummed out the whole time after that SD in game 4 :(
AAAAAH, He just friggin rolls. Oh god, I love this. Thankyou for spotting it.
DAMMIT M2K VS ARMADA WOULD HAVE BEEN AN EVEN MORE LEGENDARY GRAND FINALS. I THINK.
My god that salty handshake is so gross lmao...I never get over it.
The most hyped I've ever been on stream. The ending was crushing. :
Boy oh boy I wanna see M2K do this all the time again. Even knowing the outcome of this match ahead of time I was still getting nervous rewatching.
Mew2king said today was the best day of his life.
This was still part of Return of the King.
People watching this will makes numerous DJ Khaled references when prog and dogy were saying another one.
Such a fucking CRAZY set. Amazing play from Jason. I was scared just watching him play his sets on stream, lol.
Look at Hungrybox in the background the last match cheering M2K on. What a guy.
Words cannot describe how proud I am of Jason "M2K" Zimmerman.Keep that marth pimp hand strong man and you will win again...Oh so close! and yet The King has returned
John Titor plays smash? holy shit, is melee still being played in the far future?
money on the line my guy what you think this tournament is for fun?
Amazing set... makes me want to play again
Skill-wise M2K is on par with anybody. I think on pure skill M2K is the best alongside Armada. It's just he doesn't really have that strong of a mentality or mindgames to help him succeed to championship level.
ExilixE What the hell do you mean by skillwise? Even at the top of his ability he can't beat Hungrybox, Armada, or PP when he's playing well.
ExilixE What the hell do you mean by skillwise? Even at the top of his ability he can't beat Hungrybox, Armada, or PP when he's playing well.
abcdefghijk890989098 did you even read the rest of the comment? He has trouble beating top-5 players because he doesn't have mixups and mind games like they do. He's perfect 99% of the time in what he does, but he always does the most optimal option, which makes him predictable. That's the only reason he loses to anyone.
CoBeX31 How does that make him "on par with everyone skill wise" then? Believe it or not, his "mix-ups and mindgames"(which is a gross simplification btw", are a place where he has less skill then the others of the top 6(at that point)
This comment was made a year a half ago fam
Damn. I wish so much that Mew2King would have won this. Great show anyways Jason. You'll win it next time.
Come on m2k... So damn close. I was kinda torn on this one since these two are probably my favorite smashers, but I hated seeing m2k at #17 last year. Honestly, if he beat pp here, he would have had a HUGE chance at beating armada seeing how he was playing throughout the tourney.
Are you talking about the walk-dance grab? That was most likely a tech flaw, not a super mindgame. It happens when you try to DD too fast.
Just when i thought m2k was falling off he is now in the prime of his smash career. Most hype smasher to watch play
So close to seeing M2K vs Armada rematch in GFs..that would've been the ultimate but this set was good and PP's Marth taking a set in GF's was close enough.
Its like i'm watching Mew2king and PC Chris in 2007
4:25 for moment of the set
5:39 that was the highlight of the tournament for me. M2k is fucking SCARY when hes playing on point, PP was shitting his pants. Still cant believe m2k lost this set D:
jesus christ, how can anyone say mew2king is just a robot. his mindgames are absolutely insane
You're not allowed to go back to the LAST stage you won on. In this case, the last stage M2K won on was Pokemon Stadium, so he would not be allowed to counter pick PS.
How did M2k counterpick FD twice?
Melee Fan They used a modified DSR rule.
Nice camera work keeping Inui out of the picture.
this should have been grand finals
I cant believe its 2013, i was playing this back when i was 14 and still am to this day.
I remember getting the internet and finding a guy called isai, and Aniki and thinking holy jesus wtf is this. and organizing lan partys the good old days. now the wife wont let me do shit :(
wait what did leffen do? 16:47
Feeling like Mew2king might start winning nationals again.
But how did m2k get to go back to FD in the first place lmao
sorry to hear that. i didn't know people would like my comment
why does it say ct emp on m2k name?
1) Great match
2) What's up Prog how you doing?
3) Why is Cactuar coaching against M2K??
4) I'll check out Smash4U now . . .
10:39 dat simultaneous glasses-adjustment
5:42 m2k scratches his lip while up throwing then gets the up tilt follow up. The m2k combo lol
That handshake at the end is priceless
Salty handshake imo comes from pp and hungry box stalling out before the final game on FD which mew2king may have thought killed his momentum
I wanted M2K to win this so bad! I want to see how he would do against Armada now
yo mew2king, you got mew2king'd with that ruleset stall
no bans in a best of five.
22:05 hbox praying behind m2k and then falling to the ground when he loses
I thought you weren't allowed to go back to a stage you won at? m2k picked FD after losing the first match, won there, and picked it for the last match too
ah ok thanks for the clarification
11:51 always scares the shit outta because of how sudden m2k did it.
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12:39 ''What just happened!?'' ''Up B...'' Priceless xD
why doesn't he just ban fd?
M2K has to be my favorite Marth.
He was fucking with unknown so hard, unknown tried to choke him out and got banned from apex 2013
lol prog, no problems. What I do have a problem with is that I've never MM your falcon. next time though...
im begining to think that its getting funny since those guys get pissed off everytime they get ko'ed
Can someone tell me what a tomahawk is?
m2k was just not in it in that last game, you can just see his face was gone.
Prog has such an interesting voice
Does Hbox dislike PP?
reading the tournament ruleset mid set really quick into handwarmer and it happens to be a shitty ruleset lmao
"WHAT JUST HAPPENED?"
"up b.."
lol
all that rule checking killed m2k's momentum :/
+PhazeShift The rule checking was to see if his most preferred counterpick stage was available to him so it's pretty much something he wanted for sure. Not to mention that he lost the previous set, he definitely had not so much momentum going.
damn my heart was beating fast game 4, i was scared for pp
man mew2king had it on FD too :(... w
So? I know it's Apex, but it's called being a good sport. I saw plenty of people get knocked out who immediately stood up and shook hands with their opponent (actual solid handshake with eye contact). You can be a good sport and upset you lost at the same time, ya know.
CT EMP Megabus Mew2King! So close...
I still love 15:00 and onward. HBox comes in to give him the rules, Cactuar says bitch I made those rules and they go and google mDSR on cactuar's phone.
This is the 8th time I've watched this.
Today.
You called him the Chirs G of Melee when Chris G is clearly the best Marvel player.
I don't think that was a tech flub. He was literally in the perfect position and didn't even need to dash dance. Plus, you can't see the total look of indignation that usually goes with a M2K tech blunder LOL.
The ruleset was so BS but pp still managed to win, what a god.
From my understanding it's when you short hop toward an opponent, like you're going to shffl, but instead you don't attack. This often causes the enemy to shield and you just grab instead.
my screen is too large so I already saw your comment before the vid loaded :l
Clas Tournaments and Empire sponsored him.
zhu vs m2k's sheik on battlefield..haha i remember
THE SHAKE
Or, you could just look at the next box and see that it's PP v Armada.
But the real grand finals was also amazing.
Holy shit, M2K should've had this
12:39
- WHAT JUST HAPPEND?
- up B?
Am I the only person that thinks the crowd hates Dr. PP when he plays against Mew2King?
If 14:26 had hit, this set would likely have been over.
a shffl fair at 14:27 might've been the end of PP's stock,
I think PP became the bad guy when m2k started being all emo whenever he played/lost again PP.
Marth started to let him win after the first match. I can tell by the way he played in the next round cause i've done the same for people in smash. Judging by hi facial expressions he knew he it too. Worst thing to do to another gamer is to take pity on them.
17:40 they're searching swf for DSRM definition rofl. HBox checkin' dem rules.
i don't think i would have that total indignation look if my flub resulted in a grab, accompanied by cheers from the crowd. but yeah that probably wasn't a mistake either haha, m2k is redic
5:16
-Dr. PP: wow...
-M2K: *nods*
11:30 Matrix reference!!!! Hahahaha
What kind of disease
this is an AMAZING set
good stuff to PP bringing the first game back when he was losing
4:25 is a mindgame, not a tech flub imo m2k utterly dominated game 2
5:40
good stuff to pp taking game 4, m2k dropped that combo hard
the ruleset stall was dumb tho, PP forgot the rules? Bullshit, he got a 5 minute break to figure out what he was doing wrong and calm down. obviously
the last game is disappointing on both ends, no hype :/
Mew2King wouldn't even shake the guy's hand, what a jerk.
Progs not gay he just likes dudes
I cringed when M2K missed that up-air and dropped the combo at 14:24... Wished he could've gone to GF.