As a fellow Tim Drake fan, I would hate if he was never included in the DCU. He's such an amazing character and is absolutely the best Robin out of the four main ones (in my opinion). If he doesn't have relevance in the DCU, we can probably wave goodbye to Tim in terms of accurate mainstream adaptations. And I would hate that for him.
It’s really sad for all the Tim drake fans but sadly he doesn’t have space right now in the DCU, Damian is robin, nightwing is in the teen titans, the only way will be if he is in the young justice team ore something like that
@@WeebGuru6 The only thing I liked about Tim post New-52 were the wings on his costume. Everything else? I pretend it doesn't exist. In fact, since we know that in the New 52, the name "Tim Drake" was just an alias for him, I cope with how they massacred my boy by pretending he's a different dude entirely🥲
@@FragmentedWisp Alfred - didn’t even bring up because he’s in every adaptation, didn’t want to make the video any longer Ace - didn’t bring up because didn’t wanna do a segment on him, but it would be cool to see him since we’re getting krypto Batcow - I have no excuse for batcow. I gotta be better.
holy shit youre on a roll with these videos! i just watched your whole channel this morning and you just uploaded another one 😂keep up the good work youre my favorite dc creator already
Keep up the good work bro, DC is going to be on a rise once the Superman trailer comes out, keep grinding on DC updates & this channel is gonna blow up !!
I’m honestly SICK of DC forgetting about Tim Drake and just skipping over him. First the DCAMU now maybe the James Gunn DCU. Tim has SO much to offer. And we NEED Young Justice in the DCU. Honestly if they skip him it’ll be boarder line blasphemy.
We need more Alfred. Would love for a short scene with Dick Grayson and Alfred doing an activity outside of the Wayne manor like picking up groceries or hiking together
Ignore the mean comments dude. I’ve watched a couple vids and subbed. ur a great creator if anything try to change your tone and pace of speaking to make it a little more engaging. but ur doing great bro
Awesome vid! This is the most thoughtful and erudite video I’ve seen on this subject on TH-cam. Glad the new DCU is bringing us a live action Bat-family.
I'm very shocked your channel isn't more well known. Your videos are really good and high quality. Keep up the grind you're one of the best dc channels rn.
Great video as always! I'm personally hoping that the Batfamily will be Batman, Nightwing, Oracle, Tim as Robin or Red Robin, Cass as Batgirl, Spoiler, Alfred and Damian.
I think Batman is gonna consistently have a Robin in the DCU and with the Titans project also coming up, who also typically have a Robin on the team, my guess is, Tim is gonna be the acting Robin at the start of The Brave and The Bold and he's gonna help teach Damian what it means to be Robin and then by the end one of them is gonna go off and join up with the Titans. Either Tim goes and gives Bruce space to raise Damian, or Damian goes and learns how to socialize with other kids and work as a team
My theory on Jason Todd is that he WILL appear in this first movie…as the antagonist. I think it’s the perfect way to set up Batman’s hesitation in having another Robin, the surprise at having Damien (an extremely lethal fighter just like Jason) dropped in his lap, and sets up the struggle Bruce is going to go through in addressing his failures as a father and his need to open up. Which will lead us perfectly into a more cooperative, less-harsh Batman similar to what we see in the DCAU from Kevin Conroy’s performance in Justice League and JLU
I agree that Cassandra will probably be in the DCU. She’s very clearly James fav batgirl so I would be surprised if he didn’t include her in the universe He might not have her as batgirl but I feel like he’ll include her for sure
Great video yet again man! I too feel like Tim might just not exist in the DCU. Hopefully he is mentioned to be out there somewhere even if he doesn't appear in Batman TBATB. Your DC videos are awesome man keep up the great work!
Tim Drake being overlooked really sucks because Tim Drake was the second robin in Batman the animated series. Tim drake is also the robin that we see in the Arkham series. I feel like the way to do it in the brave and the bold version of the movie in the DCU would be to have Tim drake be Batman‘s Robin at the time and to have Tim Drake be the one that is with Batman when they meet Damien. In that sense you could have a thing of Tim Drake clashing with Damian‘s snarky attitude. I think that the best way to do it would be to have it so that instead of Nightwing being in the movie that instead it’s Tim Drake. That way Nightwing could be either with the Titans or in Bludhaven.
The thing is, both versions of Tim from adaptations that you mention aren't even really Tim. The DCAU version of Tim is basically Jason but smart and Arkhamverse Tim is basically just Nightwing. The most accurate version of Tim we've seen in adaptations is from Young Justice and he doesn't appear that much. This is honestly probably what led to people viewing Tim Drake as a lesser Robin because adaptations never portray him as his own character, he's almost always taking from other versions of Robin.
@ i agree with most except the arkhams verse Tim. Arkham verse Tim actually came off as Tim to me but more confident. He had the same attitude of wanting to help and was the type to use his head. Compared to Nightwing this Tim was more serious. But yea YJ is the best version of him.
@@NickHippo13 oh okay, that makes sense. Yea and his portrayal in the Arkham games made me love him even more. Almost done watching all of your videos so far, and I have to say, keep doing your thing brotha, making absolute banger after banger
I think we'll start with the 3 original Robins and Barbara before Brave and the Bold because that's already a lot of sidekicks, we van introduce the rest as we go and there's several non combative members of the Bat Family that need to be implemented like Alfred, Lucius Fox and Leslie Tompkins.
Jason Todd is my favorite Robin, part is me is bummed that were more than likely skipping his time as Robin and going straight into his Red Hood days. But Ive wanted to see him in live action forever so I wont complain too much.
We’ve seen 2 versions of the bat fam in live action. Titans and Batman & Robin. Both terrible, one was meant to sell toys and one was a gimmicky tv show. Gotta try it again because it’s possible it can work, with the right writing of course.
slow down, absolute batman just started, not even finished it's first arc, we have not even seen the joker yet, give it time. Maybe a animiated tv show based on the absoulte batman countinty down the line. Also we already have a dark grounded batman, look at the batman univrse movies. We have never really seen a good lighthearted batman movie sense Adam west (brave and the bold won't be that lighthearted but you get what i am saying)
My pitch for DCU Tim Drake is to let him be Red X. We all know the robin from the original Teen Titans show was heavily inspired by Tim(even if it was canonically Dick), so why not give him that mantle on the big screen? Tim lobbies to Bruce to allow Stephanie Brown to join the team, but he refuses to do so on account of who her father is. She tries to fight crime solo but ends up getting killed. Tim blames Bruce for this and quits being Robin(which there is precedence for in the comics) opting to continue fighting crime detached from Batman. Damien gets to be Robin. Tim gets a badass suit. Everybody wins.
I can imagine them giving the batwoman title to Barbara and letting someone else be batgirl, that way they can make the names less confusing but keep the more interesting batgirl characters and remove the less interesting bat woman characters but keep the title which is known by audiences
Considering they're using Damian, I feel like they could still use Tim, even with the whole "grounding" thing that he chose to do for Batman. Damian doesn't need to be explained, but Batman seeing similarities in Jason (as Red Hood, not Robin) and Damian might make him unsure and just want to give up considering that he failed Jason. Tim could be the chill middle ground that works to keep both their heads on. I hope anyway, I'd love to see Tim on the big screen.
Based on what Gunn has greenlit and said in interviews on social media. Counting the Caped Ones. Bruce Wayne (Batman), Damian Wayne (Robin), Dick Grayson (Nightwing), Barbara Gordon (Oracle), Jason Todd (Red Hood), & Cass Cain (Batgirl). I expect to see all those appear or mentioned though I expect Jason to be presumed Dead at the start.
I also think if do get Steph either in this movie or a sequel with a time jump to where she was recruited it will probably happen off screen either way. She’s in a weird grey area where she’s been around long to develop a cult fanbase unlike newer bat family members but is also is first on the chopping block.
As a Tim Drake fan i think his fighting habilities are always underrated, he has defeated Damian , he´s a better fighter than Barbara, and I hope Tim will be in the DCU... Keep hoping for more Young Justice seasons and to keep seeing him grow there and hopefully Steph too
To be honest, as much I really love Damian's character and arc growing up in the comics, I do kinda wish that instead of Damian, they started the DCU Batman with Tim Drake as Robin. Since I fear that they might just skip over Tim's character since he is constantly getting s*** on by DC Comics and just straight up getting forgotten about since he's arguably the best person to have become Robin since he actually earned that title and role, and had natural detective skills to make him a great Robin and reopen Bruce's compassion for others even his villains after the Joker killed Jason away. Batman became more brutal after being stricken with grief. Look, Im not saying they won't adapt Tim Drake; however Im just concerned they may cut him out of the DCU since the movie already seems rather crowded with the Bat Family and I fear they won't care enough to do something interesting with Tim Drake that shows why he's a vital member of the Bat-Family and what makes him different from the other Robin's
@@NickHippo13 If Tim is lucky enough to end up being a part of the Bat-family in the DCU, I at least hope they give him his own mini-show, maybe portraying his origin and how he helped Batman during a difficult time in his life, because Tim Drake deserves WAY more love as a character since he's arguably the best Robin
16:35 i dont think that matters much. Both Tim and Steph are basically non-existent in the comics right now. Also, nobody likes Benard. 😅 16:47 fuck em. Thats it, just fuck em. Hes bi, not gay so it makes sense and Tim and Steph break up anyway so they could still have him discover his bisexuality AFTER hes been with Stephanie like in the comics. 22:30 that would be interesting but 2011 wasnt that long ago. DCU kate would be in her 30s, probably the same age as DCU Batman. It would make sense why she wouldn't want to go back after dont ask dont tell was repealed so they could go either way. They could go with the original story which would be much easier or she stays in the military, doesn't get outed for a while, after the law was repealed she outs herself and then becomes a high ranking member in the military but why would she even become Batwoman at that point? They could just make her a general and keep it that way, but... idk... this is mind-boggling 😂
That would kinda cool to see a Damian Wayne and Red Hood/Jason Todd interaction just similiar from the comics (and some dialogues between Tim Drake and Damian Wayne of how both of them dealing being as Robin next to each other [before Tim Drake taking a Red Robin mantle])
I understand your concern with cutting Tim but I think a good compromise with the batfam this movie could do is focus on Damian, Bruce, and nightwing while the other batfam like Cassandra and tim are mentioned or acknowledged but they don’t show up. I know this sucks we may not see them on screen but I like this alternative than cutting them. Also to me the “ideal” staring batfam with an experienced Batman in terms of his protégés are Dick, Barbara, Jason, Tim, Damian, Cass, and Steph. I would consider all these to be “mainstream” or long standing members even non comic readers have heard in passing.
16:58 big fax as a bi person bc A) Bernard is super boring B) there’s actual main line characters that are lgbt C) if they do wanna do the bi superhero route it should be Jon, his bf was actually interesting and we get more superfam
I haven't watched the video yet but I think its smart if in The Brave And The Bold, the bat family consists of Dick, Tim (maybe barbara) and of course Damien. Dick is the past Robin, Tim is the current Robin thats following up on Dick to become his own hero, and will go on to pass the title to Damien No jason. So Tim doesn't have the forgotten middle child syndrome And so it'll be a big deal when Jason shows up in the future, make a movie based on under the red hood, too good to pass up
I actually really liked your pitch for Batwoman. I also don't particularly like Batwoman from the comics, just because I feel like there are too many characters that just have a chance meeting with batman and then are suddenly vigilantes (Barbara Gordon, Cassandra Cain, Tim Drake, etc). I think a government sponsored Batwoman would be a new an interesting way to take the character.
She definitely needs to be different than her comic iteration, I’m just not a huge fan. Obviously I’m just an internet guy so there’s prob way better ways to pitch her but my point still stands. Glad you liked it, I was really considering cutting it out the video entirely 🤣🤣
I know alot of people shit on the Gotham knights video game but I’d like to see something like that in live action some day. All of them together getting along was so cool and maybe they help normalize Damian
@@Brosati68 yeah, the problem with Gotham knights was never the premise. That is an awesome premise. All Batman’s kids getting together to save the city. Idk how they fumbled so hard, I totally agree with you that story could be awesome
I’m hoping Tim Drake is Robin when Damian shows up to later be spun off into an in-universe resurrection of the Teen Titans. I also think it would be interesting if Damian knows Jason Todd and he’s in the first movie as Red Hood. He and Dick Grayson could both try to mold Damian and doesn’t even need to remove his helmet the entire movie.
Tim could be incorporated. Just make the setting like this: Red Hood died 3-4 years ago, and Tim became Robin. Batman was hesitant, but he was surprised by Tim's intelligence (make him work with GCPD closely and make him the best detective out of all the Robins). He could be the Robin at the start of the film or have left for 1 year or 6 months and then become Red Robin, the protector of Gotham City by day
My opinion on how to handle the different batfamily members in the comics and allow them all to have books 1. Nightwing has his own solo series. He can carry his own book, but have him involved with Titans things 2. Red Robin leads the New Teen Titans with a rotating roster 3. Red Hood redoes the outlaws. They were a good team. Put Arsenal, and Chesire together on there, add in Blackfire to replace Kory, bring back Artimis and Bizarro and make it a legit team. 4. Make Damian more closely tied to magic. He kind of already is somewhat but give him his own Robin book where he is focusing on mystical things and maybe searching for Alfreds soul. 5. Put all the young Batgirls together on one book and call it batgirls and have Barbara teaching them how to be more effective. 6. Throw all the tertiary members like Azrael onto a Batman Inc book, and have them interact as Batmans personal black ops squad.
I think you are 100% correct, Jason is my favorite know the batfamily (outside of Batman). He needs a great film, but it would far too soon imo based on what we know of the current plan for DC movies
I’m positive the DCU Bat family will be Batman(Bruce), Nightwing(Dick),Batgirl(Barbara) and Robin(Damian). It’s a film, not a comic or an animated series. No way they’ll have the time to spotlight the 20 members of the Bat fam. I like the way the DCAMU did it where the Robin mantle was abandoned after Dick moved on, and Damian took it to prove he’s the better son. Much better than Bruce recruiting multiple kids after Dick departure.
4:55. I totally agree that Dick and Barbara is the better ship/the more reasonable endgame for Nightwing compared to Kor’i. I’m mostly impartial to who he ends up with as long as everyone in the situation gets adequate characterisations. In my head Kor’i was someone who Dick dated but he marries/his endgame is Babs (mostly because I love the childhood friends to lovers trope but I have other reasons for liking them together). Reasons I think people like DickKor’i/Robstar: - Nostalgia or because they were the main ship in the titan cartoons which majority of people have watched regardless if they are a dc fan, therefore making Starfire their default ship for Robin/Nightwing. - I’ve seen people (or the people I talk to) have said him ending up with Babs is closely linked to the Bat family/Gotham causing him to become stagnant as it keeps him stuck in the Batfamily, which is a diservise since Dick has always fought to get out of “Bruce’s shadow”. In my opinion, as long as they give good characterisation then this won’t be a problem. If Barbara stays as oracle instead of still being batgirl (for example in Tom Taylor’s Nightwing run) then she can/she does stray away from Bruce’s influence and joins the wider superhero community (i.e: Birds of Prey) therefore there is no reason to think that Dick would be made a redundant bat family character who only operates in Gotham/not being apart of larger conflicts. Reasons I think Barbara is better: - Like I said before I love the trope of childhood friends to lovers as it makes their relationship more complex and it also means they are better confidants for each other. - It’s a cool idea to have the original robin and original batgirl (not counting Bette Kane) together as it allows them to relate to each other. - I love Starfire’s character and as a superhero. However, she is oftentimes portrayed as a character who struggles with the no killing rule/using excessive violence which is against Nightwing’s morals so they would clash against each other. My issue is that depending on the writing, it could potentially lead to either characters forced to conform thus ruining their original personalities. However this is not one of my biggest reasons. Overall, I think the only situation/universe where I prefer Nightwing x Starfire is in the Injustice Universe (I love the quote where she calls Dick her “star-crossed soulmate”). Sorry for rambling, I was just wondering/curious for your reasons for preferring Babs?
@@NickHippo13 I personally always preferred when Dick was taken in by Bruce before he was 10 because it reinforces the father son dynamic between them.
I’m guessing Gunn will really want to streamline things for the DCU. So for Brave & the Bold I’m only expecting Damian, Dick, and Cassandra. • Dick is obvious considering he could be the older more optimistic brother for Damian, and they’re making a Teen Titans movie. • Damian is confirmed. • Gunn has said before that Cassandra is his favourite Batgirl, plus it makes sense to include her as she is a member of the League of Assassins.
I’d go with: Alfred (goes without saying) Nightwing Barbara (as Oracle) Cassandra Cain (as Batgirl) Jason Todd (as a yet to be revived Red Hood) Tim Drake (as Robin) - Make his conflict with Damian a part of the story. The Robin who inspired Batman having a hard time dealing with the Robin that must learn the Batfamily ways. Damian Wayne And I really would love to see Stephanie Brown (as Spoiler) even though that’d probably be too many members on the Batfamily. But, come on, her dynamic with Cass and Babs is my favorite out of all the Batfamily members.
I'm with you on your trail of thought regarding Tim, but I actually think it's the right way to go. And I don't think that this means we will never have Tim, they could make him a fourth Robin down the line
If they put Cassandra Cain, they should add Duke Thomas so we could see the formation of the Outsiders. That way while Steph could be the Batgirl for the Birds of Prey. I honestly think Steph Cass and Duke are underrated as hell. I wish DC would utilize them more often. I think the most recent show with Cass in it is Batwheels… 😂
Yeah I actually like Duke. I think he’s marginally better than some other forgettable bat fam members (Batwoman, bluebird, Jace) it would be interesting for sure
Yeah, and unfortunately Cass in Batwheels wears Barbara's costume and haircut. And Duke is there as robin, not the signal. Like, if you want to put them, put them they are, it is like they were embarrassed of them wtf
i personally consider azrael as part of the bat family, at least for a time, however i dont think he is popular enough, nor prominent and reoccurring enough to be featured as a "member" of the bat family on screen, so im just praying for cameo or mention. just imagine the flaming sword omg (azrael is my favorite comic book character ever, tied with swamp thing lol)
Would Cassandra not have too similar an origin to Damien? I just feel for a Damien Wayne origin movie essentially they wouldn’t want to use a similar character. I think they could make it work though because she had similar circumstance to Damien she could probably play a big sister type role and help a lot but idk if they’d do that
Tim Drake is one of my favorite characters in all of fiction, my #2 or #3 favorite comic book character... But yeah, I'd be so surprised if he's going to be in the DCU or The Brave and The Bold. Like... Considering just how many people worship Jason Todd, Damian Wayne and Dick Grayson and how DC as a whole has been trying to move past Tim Drake and make sure everybody forgets about him and gives all of his stuff and what makes him unique to the other Robins, I don't think he'll be in it. Jason and Dick have already been confirmed multiple times, but Tim... I know James Gunn recently posted that he was reading stuff with Tim in it, but I'm remaining really doubtful.
They don’t have to over saturate this movie with characters and a idea to don’t saturate is to use two main villains, red hood for revenge and Casandra to hunt Bruce and Damian, barbara and nightwing just doing cameos and Tim drake using his skills to find who is the red hood ( the Tim drake part don’t convince me but it’s the only way he can be justified in this movie )
@@killmonger5097 yeah that’s kinda just the bat fam overall. Bruce “oh I’m gonna put a bunch of kids in superhero suits and have them help me fight crime” Wayne.
I personally really think they should skip Batman being on the Justice League (basically say that he was at some point but isn’t now), and have Batman having recently established it or setting up Batman Inc IN Brave and the Bold. I think the Bat Family in the first movie should be Batman, Nightwing, Tim Drake as Robin, Damien as new Robin, Barbara as Oracle, Cassandra Cain as Batgirl and maybe Stephanie Brown as Spoiler. I do think you could have Tim just be the Robin on the Teen Titans though as well, as long as you establish his essential connection to Batman he has.
Great video, but I definitely think the group run by Maxwell Lord is the Terrifics, not the JLI. There’s 4 of them, led by Mr. Terrific, and their costumes are clearly based on his. It’s not a 100% comic accurate lineup but I think that’s clearly who they are. Plus, how can the JLI exist if there’s no Justice League yet?
Could be a new 52 JLI situation where they’re more run by Amanda Waller and the government. If the new frontier is the base for the first JL movie then maybe independent superheroes are outlawed and have to be registered or working with the U.S. government
@ I definitely think you’re correct about that, I just think they’ll be called the Terrifics instead of the JLI in this universe, even if they are government run as they seem to be. This is because of their outfits clearly being designed to be similar to Mr Terrific’s and the fact that there probably is no Justice League at this point in the DCU, so the JLI name doesn’t quite make as much sense. But I agree they definitely seem to be a Corporate / Government run team and Superman will be this new idea of an independent superhero. I think really it’ll be a mix of the two ideas in this adaptation. Either way I LOVE your videos, keep doing what you’re doing because you’re on the right track. A video on who you think will be the villain of the Brave and the Bold would be awesome.
Just an idea, so since Talia gonna be the main villain of brave n the bolt, what if a mind controlled red hood is the main bad guy to. Raz probably wouldn’t help Talia, but a mind controlled red hood will.
I definitely think Tim drake could be in the DCU, I feel like they can implement his story through the titans and have him maybe be the leader while nightwing does how own thing. Also I saw a superman leak showing a restaurant with an alias of Tim drake and I'm definitely looking to deep because that doesn't confirm his presence or anything but I feel it helps prove that James Gunn has him in the back of his mind.
What would be cool is if we open with Batman having Jason Todd, then in the second movie he dies or we get a movie with the joker beating him to death, and shooting barbara
Great vid, How old do you think do you think Bruce will be on debut ? James Gunn said recently they’re not casting middle aged actors for Batman so I assume mid 30s right? I hope he is bc Bruce & Clark being close in age is important imo.
@@BaithNa He wasn’t 8-10 years older than him he was a a couple, watchtower explained it years ago, & them being close in age is VERY important. Batman & Superman dynamic are supposed to be a reflection & contrast each other. Be mirrors of each other, Batman representing the Dark. Superman representing the Light. But their Both Justice in their own Right. I mean you even have tropes of Bruce & LOOKING THE SAME, Their supposed to be around, if not the SAME AGE. They’re Supposed to be basically be Twin Brothers. Making Bruce nearly a decade annihilates that dynamic & Zack Snyder had older Batman & a younger Superman & that dynamic was not good, so I don’t see why James gunn would repeat the same thing.
@@BaithNa Bruce & Clark being close in age is important. that’s isn’t true, there’s no concrete timeline of the characters due to the fact There’s many contradictions in universe of the dates in episodes, plus the watchtower TH-cam channel explained the timelines years ago & said if anything Bruce will only be a couple years older than him.
1. Scott Adkins As Bruce Wayne/Batman 2. Colin Firth As Alfred Pennyworth 3. Ben Aldridge As Thomas Wayne 4. Ruth Wilson As Martha Wayne 5. Jamie Lee Curtis As Dr. Leslie Thompkins (Bruce's Psychologist That Knows He's Batman & Also Counsels The Other Bat Family Members) 5. Meta Golding As Selina Kyle/Catwoman 6. Timothee Chalamet As Dick Grayson/Nightwing 7. Oakes Fegley As Damian Wayne 8. Dacre Montgomery As Jason Todd/The Red Hood 9. Bill Pullman As Commissioner Gordon 10. Sadie Sink As Barbara Gordon/Batgirl/Oracle 11. Colton Hayes As Tim Drake 12. Riley Nai Lenet As Cassandra Cain 13. Sydney Sweeney As Stephanie March/Spoiler 14. Katherine Moennig As Katherine "Kate" Kane/Batwoman 15. Miles Truitt As Duke Thomas/The Signal 16. Jordan Calloway As Luke Fox/Batwing 17. Kwame Boateng As Jace Fox
As a fellow Tim Drake fan, I would hate if he was never included in the DCU. He's such an amazing character and is absolutely the best Robin out of the four main ones (in my opinion). If he doesn't have relevance in the DCU, we can probably wave goodbye to Tim in terms of accurate mainstream adaptations.
And I would hate that for him.
100%.
Facts hope it’s his pre new 52 cuz u know
It’s really sad for all the Tim drake fans but sadly he doesn’t have space right now in the DCU, Damian is robin, nightwing is in the teen titans, the only way will be if he is in the young justice team ore something like that
@@WeebGuru6 The only thing I liked about Tim post New-52 were the wings on his costume. Everything else? I pretend it doesn't exist.
In fact, since we know that in the New 52, the name "Tim Drake" was just an alias for him, I cope with how they massacred my boy by pretending he's a different dude entirely🥲
@@agrim_reaper I know my friend love Tim and he’s sad about it
bro forgot the three most important characters
Alfred, Ace the dog and Batcow
@@FragmentedWisp
Alfred - didn’t even bring up because he’s in every adaptation, didn’t want to make the video any longer
Ace - didn’t bring up because didn’t wanna do a segment on him, but it would be cool to see him since we’re getting krypto
Batcow - I have no excuse for batcow. I gotta be better.
@@NickHippo13 nice 👍
Steph can actually be a cool older sister figure of Damian since their relationship is very sibling style that can work very well
holy shit youre on a roll with these videos! i just watched your whole channel this morning and you just uploaded another one 😂keep up the good work youre my favorite dc creator already
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@@jesseowenvillamor6348bro nobody cares about how someone spells in a youtube comment section stfu
Thank you! That’s high praise haha.
@@Dbeaver3118 You replied, so that means you do care. Stop acting cool because you're not.
@@jesseowenvillamor6348 go take a shower vro its a yt comment section
Keep up the good work bro, DC is going to be on a rise once the Superman trailer comes out, keep grinding on DC updates & this channel is gonna blow up !!
Man, to me it already has blown up 🤣 in no world did I expect to have this many people watching my videos haha
@NickHippo13 your right man, us nerds need every crumb of news to feel secure your content is great!💯😊💪
I’m honestly SICK of DC forgetting about Tim Drake and just skipping over him. First the DCAMU now maybe the James Gunn DCU. Tim has SO much to offer. And we NEED Young Justice in the DCU. Honestly if they skip him it’ll be boarder line blasphemy.
Tbh the writers of him need to do something more with him I feel his most recent run rly messed up his image
@@julianfinley9458it definitely messed up his image.
Man the editing on this one is killer
it’s really crisp, wish I had the patience for it
We need more Alfred. Would love for a short scene with Dick Grayson and Alfred doing an activity outside of the Wayne manor like picking up groceries or hiking together
"master dick, stop clowning around with the apples"
"Come on alfred, loose yourself a little"
I know I look like a vampire in this 🤣 recorded a couple times but it kept turning out like this. Will be better next time.
Dont worry mate, it doesnt look that bas
Ignore the mean comments dude. I’ve watched a couple vids and subbed. ur a great creator if anything try to change your tone and pace of speaking to make it a little more engaging. but ur doing great bro
These vids are so high quality 🙏
+ the Batman 2022 poster 😍😍🥰😘
Awesome vid! This is the most thoughtful and erudite video I’ve seen on this subject on TH-cam. Glad the new DCU is bringing us a live action Bat-family.
I'm very shocked your channel isn't more well known. Your videos are really good and high quality. Keep up the grind you're one of the best dc channels rn.
Thank you! Also I think this is pretty big considering I started 3 weeks ago today. Lol
Great video and solid line-up I think Cassandra has to be included for the modern era. It’s her time to get some serious spotlight
Great video as always! I'm personally hoping that the Batfamily will be Batman, Nightwing, Oracle, Tim as Robin or Red Robin, Cass as Batgirl, Spoiler, Alfred and Damian.
Tim is really the forgotten child, even in the animated movies
Well he is the middle child that's accurate 😅
I think Batman is gonna consistently have a Robin in the DCU and with the Titans project also coming up, who also typically have a Robin on the team, my guess is, Tim is gonna be the acting Robin at the start of The Brave and The Bold and he's gonna help teach Damian what it means to be Robin and then by the end one of them is gonna go off and join up with the Titans. Either Tim goes and gives Bruce space to raise Damian, or Damian goes and learns how to socialize with other kids and work as a team
I’m so excited yet nervous to see how they adapt the red hood
You’re my favorite new channel
My theory on Jason Todd is that he WILL appear in this first movie…as the antagonist. I think it’s the perfect way to set up Batman’s hesitation in having another Robin, the surprise at having Damien (an extremely lethal fighter just like Jason) dropped in his lap, and sets up the struggle Bruce is going to go through in addressing his failures as a father and his need to open up. Which will lead us perfectly into a more cooperative, less-harsh Batman similar to what we see in the DCAU from Kevin Conroy’s performance in Justice League and JLU
Red Hood never actually wore the bat symbol until rebirth, not when he came back in under the red hood. Great video tho
New 52*
you sir, are going places. Keep up the good work G
I like how you add the beats between characters.
I agree that Cassandra will probably be in the DCU. She’s very clearly James fav batgirl so I would be surprised if he didn’t include her in the universe
He might not have her as batgirl but I feel like he’ll include her for sure
This channel is about to take off man. So excited for the new dc era
Love how well thought out this was! Hoping for all 4 Robins to be in the story cause I love the batfam more than the batman tbh
Great video yet again man! I too feel like Tim might just not exist in the DCU. Hopefully he is mentioned to be out there somewhere even if he doesn't appear in Batman TBATB. Your DC videos are awesome man keep up the great work!
@@Darragh7 thank you! They better put my boy Tim in there 🙏
Tim Drake being overlooked really sucks because Tim Drake was the second robin in Batman the animated series. Tim drake is also the robin that we see in the Arkham series. I feel like the way to do it in the brave and the bold version of the movie in the DCU would be to have Tim drake be Batman‘s Robin at the time and to have Tim Drake be the one that is with Batman when they meet Damien. In that sense you could have a thing of Tim Drake clashing with Damian‘s snarky attitude.
I think that the best way to do it would be to have it so that instead of Nightwing being in the movie that instead it’s Tim Drake. That way Nightwing could be either with the Titans or in Bludhaven.
The thing is, both versions of Tim from adaptations that you mention aren't even really Tim. The DCAU version of Tim is basically Jason but smart and Arkhamverse Tim is basically just Nightwing. The most accurate version of Tim we've seen in adaptations is from Young Justice and he doesn't appear that much. This is honestly probably what led to people viewing Tim Drake as a lesser Robin because adaptations never portray him as his own character, he's almost always taking from other versions of Robin.
@ i agree with most except the arkhams verse Tim. Arkham verse Tim actually came off as Tim to me but more confident. He had the same attitude of wanting to help and was the type to use his head. Compared to Nightwing this Tim was more serious. But yea YJ is the best version of him.
Lego game Tim was Tim though
We need at least the core four (Dick, Jason, Tim and Damian)
Tim should be included so when Batman dies we have a rational, tactical, and brave heir to the mantle that would want to take the mantle.
Man your channel is amazing 🎉i am already starting to rewatch your videos🤌🏼😅
Much love haha
Love your content! Keep it up!!
Yoooo fire video and channel my man!! Question though, you really don’t think Azrael will be in the DCU? Maybe even later down the line?
I think he’ll be in it, I just don’t consider him wider bat family tbh, I think his story in Knightfall is really compelling
@@NickHippo13 oh okay, that makes sense. Yea and his portrayal in the Arkham games made me love him even more. Almost done watching all of your videos so far, and I have to say, keep doing your thing brotha, making absolute banger after banger
I think we'll start with the 3 original Robins and Barbara before Brave and the Bold because that's already a lot of sidekicks, we van introduce the rest as we go and there's several non combative members of the Bat Family that need to be implemented like Alfred, Lucius Fox and Leslie Tompkins.
Jason Todd is my favorite Robin, part is me is bummed that were more than likely skipping his time as Robin and going straight into his Red Hood days. But Ive wanted to see him in live action forever so I wont complain too much.
Real. I kinda hope he’s a red head tbh
We've had endless iterations of the exact same setup. I think it is time they do an Absolute spin on DCU.
We’ve seen 2 versions of the bat fam in live action. Titans and Batman & Robin. Both terrible, one was meant to sell toys and one was a gimmicky tv show. Gotta try it again because it’s possible it can work, with the right writing of course.
slow down, absolute batman just started, not even finished it's first arc, we have not even seen the joker yet, give it time. Maybe a animiated tv show based on the absoulte batman countinty down the line. Also we already have a dark grounded batman, look at the batman univrse movies. We have never really seen a good lighthearted batman movie sense Adam west (brave and the bold won't be that lighthearted but you get what i am saying)
My pitch for DCU Tim Drake is to let him be Red X. We all know the robin from the original Teen Titans show was heavily inspired by Tim(even if it was canonically Dick), so why not give him that mantle on the big screen? Tim lobbies to Bruce to allow Stephanie Brown to join the team, but he refuses to do so on account of who her father is. She tries to fight crime solo but ends up getting killed. Tim blames Bruce for this and quits being Robin(which there is precedence for in the comics) opting to continue fighting crime detached from Batman. Damien gets to be Robin.
Tim gets a badass suit.
Everybody wins.
Steph fans don't but I don't think they know what winning feels like
Never realized how badly Tim Drake has been handled.
I can imagine them giving the batwoman title to Barbara and letting someone else be batgirl, that way they can make the names less confusing but keep the more interesting batgirl characters and remove the less interesting bat woman characters but keep the title which is known by audiences
"Batwoman" is not known by audiences lmfao, just keep babs as oracle
Considering they're using Damian, I feel like they could still use Tim, even with the whole "grounding" thing that he chose to do for Batman. Damian doesn't need to be explained, but Batman seeing similarities in Jason (as Red Hood, not Robin) and Damian might make him unsure and just want to give up considering that he failed Jason. Tim could be the chill middle ground that works to keep both their heads on. I hope anyway, I'd love to see Tim on the big screen.
Based on what Gunn has greenlit and said in interviews on social media. Counting the Caped Ones.
Bruce Wayne (Batman), Damian Wayne (Robin), Dick Grayson (Nightwing), Barbara Gordon (Oracle), Jason Todd (Red Hood), & Cass Cain (Batgirl).
I expect to see all those appear or mentioned though I expect Jason to be presumed Dead at the start.
8:24 that’s all I need, a great Jason on screen in live action
He just keeps cooking 🔥
I also think if do get Steph either in this movie or a sequel with a time jump to where she was recruited it will probably happen off screen either way. She’s in a weird grey area where she’s been around long to develop a cult fanbase unlike newer bat family members but is also is first on the chopping block.
As a Tim Drake fan i think his fighting habilities are always underrated, he has defeated Damian , he´s a better fighter than Barbara, and I hope Tim will be in the DCU... Keep hoping for more Young Justice seasons and to keep seeing him grow there and hopefully Steph too
I hope we get to see Red Hood in live action in the DCU cuz I wasn’t a fan of how he was treated in Titans
*liveaction
@@DorkNight5555 he was HORRIBLE in titans
To be honest, as much I really love Damian's character and arc growing up in the comics, I do kinda wish that instead of Damian, they started the DCU Batman with Tim Drake as Robin. Since I fear that they might just skip over Tim's character since he is constantly getting s*** on by DC Comics and just straight up getting forgotten about since he's arguably the best person to have become Robin since he actually earned that title and role, and had natural detective skills to make him a great Robin and reopen Bruce's compassion for others even his villains after the Joker killed Jason away. Batman became more brutal after being stricken with grief.
Look, Im not saying they won't adapt Tim Drake; however Im just concerned they may cut him out of the DCU since the movie already seems rather crowded with the Bat Family and I fear they won't care enough to do something interesting with Tim Drake that shows why he's a vital member of the Bat-Family and what makes him different from the other Robin's
I am in 100% agreement with you.
@@NickHippo13 If Tim is lucky enough to end up being a part of the Bat-family in the DCU, I at least hope they give him his own mini-show, maybe portraying his origin and how he helped Batman during a difficult time in his life, because Tim Drake deserves WAY more love as a character since he's arguably the best Robin
Plus, Tim was the first to have a series for his portrayal of Robin, and one of the first sidekicks to get a series as well.
Oh fuck yeahhh, I am seated 🪑🔥😤🤌🏾
16:35 i dont think that matters much. Both Tim and Steph are basically non-existent in the comics right now. Also, nobody likes Benard. 😅
16:47 fuck em. Thats it, just fuck em. Hes bi, not gay so it makes sense and Tim and Steph break up anyway so they could still have him discover his bisexuality AFTER hes been with Stephanie like in the comics.
22:30 that would be interesting but 2011 wasnt that long ago. DCU kate would be in her 30s, probably the same age as DCU Batman. It would make sense why she wouldn't want to go back after dont ask dont tell was repealed so they could go either way. They could go with the original story which would be much easier or she stays in the military, doesn't get outed for a while, after the law was repealed she outs herself and then becomes a high ranking member in the military but why would she even become Batwoman at that point? They could just make her a general and keep it that way, but... idk... this is mind-boggling 😂
yeah ngl I was totally yapping for that Batwoman part. Felt original so I just kept it while editing lol
That would kinda cool to see a Damian Wayne and Red Hood/Jason Todd interaction just similiar from the comics (and some dialogues between Tim Drake and Damian Wayne of how both of them dealing being as Robin next to each other [before Tim Drake taking a Red Robin mantle])
I understand your concern with cutting Tim but I think a good compromise with the batfam this movie could do is focus on Damian, Bruce, and nightwing while the other batfam like Cassandra and tim are mentioned or acknowledged but they don’t show up. I know this sucks we may not see them on screen but I like this alternative than cutting them. Also to me the “ideal” staring batfam with an experienced Batman in terms of his protégés are Dick, Barbara, Jason, Tim, Damian, Cass, and Steph. I would consider all these to be “mainstream” or long standing members even non comic readers have heard in passing.
Great video bro do you think we could see like Azrael or Ghostmaker appear in the DCU as well ?
Azrael only makes sense if they do knightfall properly or another "crazy guy takes inspiration from batman" story
I think azrael yeah, if they do Batman inc then yeah ghost maker as well
I have a good feeling that they will adapt Huntress in the DCU, especially if they do a birds of prey project
Huntress will 100% be in there I believe
Ayyyy send a complaint to youtube cause they didnt put u on my top 3 notis😂😂😭
16:58 big fax as a bi person bc A) Bernard is super boring
B) there’s actual main line characters that are lgbt
C) if they do wanna do the bi superhero route it should be Jon, his bf was actually interesting and we get more superfam
Although I don’t think ppl will complain either way just bc DC actually does representation pretty damn well + they’re genuine w it so
I haven't watched the video yet but I think its smart if in The Brave And The Bold, the bat family consists of Dick, Tim (maybe barbara) and of course Damien. Dick is the past Robin, Tim is the current Robin thats following up on Dick to become his own hero, and will go on to pass the title to Damien
No jason. So Tim doesn't have the forgotten middle child syndrome
And so it'll be a big deal when Jason shows up in the future, make a movie based on under the red hood, too good to pass up
As long as we get red robin and scarecrows design from Arkham Knight dcu will be good
I actually really liked your pitch for Batwoman. I also don't particularly like Batwoman from the comics, just because I feel like there are too many characters that just have a chance meeting with batman and then are suddenly vigilantes (Barbara Gordon, Cassandra Cain, Tim Drake, etc). I think a government sponsored Batwoman would be a new an interesting way to take the character.
She definitely needs to be different than her comic iteration, I’m just not a huge fan. Obviously I’m just an internet guy so there’s prob way better ways to pitch her but my point still stands. Glad you liked it, I was really considering cutting it out the video entirely 🤣🤣
@@NickHippo13 love your videos bro, been watching since the first one and you havent missed yet.
I know alot of people shit on the Gotham knights video game but I’d like to see something like that in live action some day. All of them together getting along was so cool and maybe they help normalize Damian
@@Brosati68 yeah, the problem with Gotham knights was never the premise. That is an awesome premise. All Batman’s kids getting together to save the city. Idk how they fumbled so hard, I totally agree with you that story could be awesome
I’m hoping Tim Drake is Robin when Damian shows up to later be spun off into an in-universe resurrection of the Teen Titans. I also think it would be interesting if Damian knows Jason Todd and he’s in the first movie as Red Hood. He and Dick Grayson could both try to mold Damian and doesn’t even need to remove his helmet the entire movie.
Love the vids but imo you should try and make them a bit shorter. Cut down on the sidetracking
I’m glad I’m not the only one that CANNOT STAND Jace Fox! 😂
They did Luke so dirty by putting his nobody brother in the spotlight and kicking him to the curb smh
They need to give us Time Drake!!!
Tim could be incorporated. Just make the setting like this: Red Hood died 3-4 years ago, and Tim became Robin. Batman was hesitant, but he was surprised by Tim's intelligence (make him work with GCPD closely and make him the best detective out of all the Robins). He could be the Robin at the start of the film or have left for 1 year or 6 months and then become Red Robin, the protector of Gotham City by day
I hope Carrie Kelley would be appear in the DCU. She is very underrated character in my opinion.
Definitely underrated.
Seing as Tim was in the issues where Damian was introduced, I am sure Tim will still be in Brave and the Bold.
Great vid Bro 🔥
Thank you for using crash out the right way
My opinion on how to handle the different batfamily members in the comics and allow them all to have books
1. Nightwing has his own solo series. He can carry his own book, but have him involved with Titans things
2. Red Robin leads the New Teen Titans with a rotating roster
3. Red Hood redoes the outlaws. They were a good team. Put Arsenal, and Chesire together on there, add in Blackfire to replace Kory, bring back Artimis and Bizarro and make it a legit team.
4. Make Damian more closely tied to magic. He kind of already is somewhat but give him his own Robin book where he is focusing on mystical things and maybe searching for Alfreds soul.
5. Put all the young Batgirls together on one book and call it batgirls and have Barbara teaching them how to be more effective.
6. Throw all the tertiary members like Azrael onto a Batman Inc book, and have them interact as Batmans personal black ops squad.
You should do a video about all the Lantern Corps
Dcu videos. Subscribing now man
Brandon Sklenar is my fancast for Batman/Bruce Wayne lol even Blake Lively endorsed him 👏 🙌
That’s a good one, haven’t heard that one actually
@@NickHippo13 th-cam.com/video/Ex799-jRIYA/w-d-xo.htmlsi=HpZs6VI2uORpMjXz dude yes
I think you are 100% correct, Jason is my favorite know the batfamily (outside of Batman). He needs a great film, but it would far too soon imo based on what we know of the current plan for DC movies
I’m positive the DCU Bat family will be Batman(Bruce), Nightwing(Dick),Batgirl(Barbara) and Robin(Damian). It’s a film, not a comic or an animated series. No way they’ll have the time to spotlight the 20 members of the Bat fam. I like the way the DCAMU did it where the Robin mantle was abandoned after Dick moved on, and Damian took it to prove he’s the better son. Much better than Bruce recruiting multiple kids after Dick departure.
I think if they skip Jason, fans will riot. But I understand your logic
4:55. I totally agree that Dick and Barbara is the better ship/the more reasonable endgame for Nightwing compared to Kor’i. I’m mostly impartial to who he ends up with as long as everyone in the situation gets adequate characterisations. In my head Kor’i was someone who Dick dated but he marries/his endgame is Babs (mostly because I love the childhood friends to lovers trope but I have other reasons for liking them together).
Reasons I think people like DickKor’i/Robstar:
- Nostalgia or because they were the main ship in the titan cartoons which majority of people have watched regardless if they are a dc fan, therefore making Starfire their default ship for Robin/Nightwing.
- I’ve seen people (or the people I talk to) have said him ending up with Babs is closely linked to the Bat family/Gotham causing him to become stagnant as it keeps him stuck in the Batfamily, which is a diservise since Dick has always fought to get out of “Bruce’s shadow”. In my opinion, as long as they give good characterisation then this won’t be a problem. If Barbara stays as oracle instead of still being batgirl (for example in Tom Taylor’s Nightwing run) then she can/she does stray away from Bruce’s influence and joins the wider superhero community (i.e: Birds of Prey) therefore there is no reason to think that Dick would be made a redundant bat family character who only operates in Gotham/not being apart of larger conflicts.
Reasons I think Barbara is better:
- Like I said before I love the trope of childhood friends to lovers as it makes their relationship more complex and it also means they are better confidants for each other.
- It’s a cool idea to have the original robin and original batgirl (not counting Bette Kane) together as it allows them to relate to each other.
- I love Starfire’s character and as a superhero. However, she is oftentimes portrayed as a character who struggles with the no killing rule/using excessive violence which is against Nightwing’s morals so they would clash against each other. My issue is that depending on the writing, it could potentially lead to either characters forced to conform thus ruining their original personalities. However this is not one of my biggest reasons.
Overall, I think the only situation/universe where I prefer Nightwing x Starfire is in the Injustice Universe (I love the quote where she calls Dick her “star-crossed soulmate”).
Sorry for rambling, I was just wondering/curious for your reasons for preferring Babs?
1:19 Eh pretty sure Dick was 9 when he became Robin.
It’s varied, originally he was 8, he’s been 12, 13, 10, it’s changed a couple times
@@NickHippo13 I personally always preferred when Dick was taken in by Bruce before he was 10 because it reinforces the father son dynamic between them.
I’m guessing Gunn will really want to streamline things for the DCU. So for Brave & the Bold I’m only expecting Damian, Dick, and Cassandra.
• Dick is obvious considering he could be the older more optimistic brother for Damian, and they’re making a Teen Titans movie.
• Damian is confirmed.
• Gunn has said before that Cassandra is his favourite Batgirl, plus it makes sense to include her as she is a member of the League of Assassins.
I’d go with:
Alfred (goes without saying)
Nightwing
Barbara (as Oracle)
Cassandra Cain (as Batgirl)
Jason Todd (as a yet to be revived Red Hood)
Tim Drake (as Robin) - Make his conflict with Damian a part of the story. The Robin who inspired Batman having a hard time dealing with the Robin that must learn the Batfamily ways.
Damian Wayne
And I really would love to see Stephanie Brown (as Spoiler) even though that’d probably be too many members on the Batfamily.
But, come on, her dynamic with Cass and Babs is my favorite out of all the Batfamily members.
Great job so far man, mind if I ask how u edit and what you use to film with? Thanks!
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I'm with you on your trail of thought regarding Tim, but I actually think it's the right way to go. And I don't think that this means we will never have Tim, they could make him a fourth Robin down the line
If they put Cassandra Cain, they should add Duke Thomas so we could see the formation of the Outsiders. That way while Steph could be the Batgirl for the Birds of Prey. I honestly think Steph Cass and Duke are underrated as hell. I wish DC would utilize them more often. I think the most recent show with Cass in it is Batwheels… 😂
Yeah I actually like Duke. I think he’s marginally better than some other forgettable bat fam members (Batwoman, bluebird, Jace) it would be interesting for sure
Yeah, and unfortunately Cass in Batwheels wears Barbara's costume and haircut. And Duke is there as robin, not the signal. Like, if you want to put them, put them they are, it is like they were embarrassed of them wtf
i personally consider azrael as part of the bat family, at least for a time, however i dont think he is popular enough, nor prominent and reoccurring enough to be featured as a "member" of the bat family on screen, so im just praying for cameo or mention.
just imagine the flaming sword omg
(azrael is my favorite comic book character ever, tied with swamp thing lol)
Would Cassandra not have too similar an origin to Damien? I just feel for a Damien Wayne origin movie essentially they wouldn’t want to use a similar character. I think they could make it work though because she had similar circumstance to Damien she could probably play a big sister type role and help a lot but idk if they’d do that
Tim Drake is one of my favorite characters in all of fiction, my #2 or #3 favorite comic book character... But yeah, I'd be so surprised if he's going to be in the DCU or The Brave and The Bold. Like... Considering just how many people worship Jason Todd, Damian Wayne and Dick Grayson and how DC as a whole has been trying to move past Tim Drake and make sure everybody forgets about him and gives all of his stuff and what makes him unique to the other Robins, I don't think he'll be in it.
Jason and Dick have already been confirmed multiple times, but Tim... I know James Gunn recently posted that he was reading stuff with Tim in it, but I'm remaining really doubtful.
They don’t have to over saturate this movie with characters and a idea to don’t saturate is to use two main villains, red hood for revenge and Casandra to hunt Bruce and Damian, barbara and nightwing just doing cameos and Tim drake using his skills to find who is the red hood ( the Tim drake part don’t convince me but it’s the only way he can be justified in this movie )
W video dawg
Honestly a live action Batfamily is gonna be goofy as hell lol
@@killmonger5097 yeah that’s kinda just the bat fam overall. Bruce “oh I’m gonna put a bunch of kids in superhero suits and have them help me fight crime” Wayne.
I personally really think they should skip Batman being on the Justice League (basically say that he was at some point but isn’t now), and have Batman having recently established it or setting up Batman Inc IN Brave and the Bold.
I think the Bat Family in the first movie should be Batman, Nightwing, Tim Drake as Robin, Damien as new Robin, Barbara as Oracle, Cassandra Cain as Batgirl and maybe Stephanie Brown as Spoiler.
I do think you could have Tim just be the Robin on the Teen Titans though as well, as long as you establish his essential connection to Batman he has.
Great video, but I definitely think the group run by Maxwell Lord is the Terrifics, not the JLI. There’s 4 of them, led by Mr. Terrific, and their costumes are clearly based on his. It’s not a 100% comic accurate lineup but I think that’s clearly who they are. Plus, how can the JLI exist if there’s no Justice League yet?
Could be a new 52 JLI situation where they’re more run by Amanda Waller and the government. If the new frontier is the base for the first JL movie then maybe independent superheroes are outlawed and have to be registered or working with the U.S. government
@ I definitely think you’re correct about that, I just think they’ll be called the Terrifics instead of the JLI in this universe, even if they are government run as they seem to be. This is because of their outfits clearly being designed to be similar to Mr Terrific’s and the fact that there probably is no Justice League at this point in the DCU, so the JLI name doesn’t quite make as much sense. But I agree they definitely seem to be a Corporate / Government run team and Superman will be this new idea of an independent superhero. I think really it’ll be a mix of the two ideas in this adaptation.
Either way I LOVE your videos, keep doing what you’re doing because you’re on the right track. A video on who you think will be the villain of the Brave and the Bold would be awesome.
Imagine if Miya Cech played Cassandra Cain in the DCU with Gordon Cormier playing Damian Wayne Robin?
Just an idea, so since Talia gonna be the main villain of brave n the bolt, what if a mind controlled red hood is the main bad guy to. Raz probably wouldn’t help Talia, but a mind controlled red hood will.
I definitely think Tim drake could be in the DCU, I feel like they can implement his story through the titans and have him maybe be the leader while nightwing does how own thing. Also I saw a superman leak showing a restaurant with an alias of Tim drake and I'm definitely looking to deep because that doesn't confirm his presence or anything but I feel it helps prove that James Gunn has him in the back of his mind.
Oh yeah I did see that, good point!
@ thanks and these vids are so good helps me take my mind off college 😭😭
@@Sam_sehdev4479 man they do the same thing for me lol ts is mad stressful
I think he’s going to keep it simple. It’ll probably be Batman, dick Grayson, and Damien in the first movie building up to the red hood
What would be cool is if we open with Batman having Jason Todd, then in the second movie he dies or we get a movie with the joker beating him to death, and shooting barbara
hear me out hear me out a comic series where tim drake as batman with his own batsuit
Do we know if the dynamic duo animated film will be in the DCU?
Pretty sure it’s out of continuity
PLEASE GIVE US A DECENTLY WRITTEN RED HOOD 😭😭😭 (i love his character but he gets the short end of the stick ALOT)
Great vid, How old do you think do you think Bruce will be on debut ? James Gunn said recently they’re not casting middle aged actors for Batman so I assume mid 30s right? I hope he is bc Bruce & Clark being close in age is important imo.
Yes that is important. I think he’ll be mid to late 30s
Bruce and Clark have an age gap of about 8-10 years in the DCAU so them being close in age isn't very important at all
@@BaithNa really? Didn’t even know that.
@@BaithNa He wasn’t 8-10 years older than him he was a a couple, watchtower explained it years ago, & them being close in age is VERY important. Batman & Superman dynamic are supposed to be a reflection & contrast each other. Be mirrors of each other, Batman representing the Dark. Superman representing the Light. But their Both Justice in their own Right. I mean you even have tropes of Bruce & LOOKING THE SAME, Their supposed to be around, if not the SAME AGE. They’re Supposed to be basically be Twin Brothers. Making Bruce nearly a decade annihilates that dynamic & Zack Snyder had older Batman & a younger Superman & that dynamic was not good, so I don’t see why James gunn would repeat the same thing.
@@BaithNa Bruce & Clark being close in age is important. that’s isn’t true, there’s no concrete timeline of the characters due to the fact There’s many contradictions in universe of the dates in episodes, plus the watchtower TH-cam channel explained the timelines years ago & said if anything Bruce will only be a couple years older than him.
There Is Also The Antihero Clayface Who Deserves A Mention
If I had every extended bat family member the video would be way too long. Just wanted to wrap it up and move onto the next video
1. Scott Adkins As Bruce Wayne/Batman
2. Colin Firth As Alfred Pennyworth
3. Ben Aldridge As Thomas Wayne
4. Ruth Wilson As Martha Wayne
5. Jamie Lee Curtis As Dr. Leslie Thompkins (Bruce's Psychologist That Knows He's Batman & Also Counsels The Other Bat Family Members)
5. Meta Golding As Selina Kyle/Catwoman
6. Timothee Chalamet As Dick Grayson/Nightwing
7. Oakes Fegley As Damian Wayne
8. Dacre Montgomery As Jason Todd/The Red Hood
9. Bill Pullman As Commissioner Gordon
10. Sadie Sink As Barbara Gordon/Batgirl/Oracle
11. Colton Hayes As Tim Drake
12. Riley Nai Lenet As Cassandra Cain
13. Sydney Sweeney As Stephanie March/Spoiler
14. Katherine Moennig As Katherine "Kate" Kane/Batwoman
15. Miles Truitt As Duke Thomas/The Signal
16. Jordan Calloway As Luke Fox/Batwing
17. Kwame Boateng As Jace Fox