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I nearly LOL'd at the dew point comment... the dew point in Louisiana (where I am) is 77 and humidity 90% 😫 We're all just a big sticky puddle of sweat! Great sermon JW!
I was once told during a conversation I was having that Christ's baptism was unique and special to him and that the infant baptism is equal to the washing ceremony of the Jews.
Thank you for this. Very helpful. Something one of my paedobaptist brothers pointed out: I will point out that having an upcoming baptismal service, Dr. White made reference to, seems to go against the NT pattern too...we see over and over baptisms happening immediately after repentance and belief...not having to wait for a certain Sunday/service.... Thoughts on that? Thanks!
I think it is a logistical matter. When are people going to able to gather for a babtism, and how are they to be baptised? The church building has a pool for baptism, and eveyone is going to be there on Sunday. Also, those pools hold a lot of water, and it takes a while to fill them. They aren't designed to hold water continually.
Focusing in on the way the physical part of the baptism is performed is the same as focusing in on cutting off foreskin, washing your hands before a meal, not eating pork and many other things that clearly didn't matter to Jesus. Did you not just say it's what's in the heart that matters in this sermon. I don't know man, I don't think someone if going to go to hell if their heart is right with God and they confess and repent, but didn't get fully submerged. This whole full submersion thing is the same superficial stuff Jesus preached against.
As a reformed baptist, what do we do with infants/toddlers/children? I know what I believe and hold to, but there's very little discussion about this. I'd be curious to hear James White's thoughts on that.
Nowhere in the bible is it stated clearing how baptism is done. Most pastors say that when Jesus was baptized He came out the water, so they automatically agree that it was immersion. If you have lived near a stream, because of erosion we have a lower and upper grounds. The bible didn't say He rose up out of the river, but rather came out. So logically Jesus stepped out from the lower ground of the river unto the banks, the higher ground. Nowhere in the old testament is baptism found to be by immersion, but by sprinkling and pouring; even on the day of Pentecost the Holy Spirit baptism was poured on the followers of Jesus. It's by faith, and faith alone. John the Baptist said that he baptized people unto repentance, but Jesus would baptized people with the Holy Spirit and fire. It is God Who does the baptism, not people or pastors.
@@jesuschristsaves9067 Why read Calvin? 1. Because, if you think that Calvin is unbiblical or unsound then you need to know what he actually wrote, 2. Because, if you think that Calvin is biblical or sound then you need to know what he actually wrote, 3. Because, how long will you depend on second hand information, 4. Because, he was an influential figure in the Reformation/Protestant movement, 5. If you are to critique Calvin or Calvinism, then what good place to start than to read Calvin and related materials (including Jacob Arminius), 6. Other reasons, 7. If none of the above apply, then you're good.
@@rev.b.ryngksai Calvinism is unbiblical. *Calvinism says:* God decrees everything. *the Bible says:* _“and have built the high places of Baal to burn their sons in the fire as burnt offerings to Baal, which _*_I did not command or decree, nor did it come into my mind-”_* Jeremiah 19:5 ESV www.bible.com/59/jer.19.5.esv The doctrine of Calvin is in contradiction to the Bible so again, why read Calvin?
@@jesuschristsaves9067 Keep on reading, my brother. Just avoid what you want to avoid. Don't mistake me for a Calvinist, I do not consider myself a Calvinist... yet. But I do read. For that matter, I read even the Quran, the Gita, Hawkins, and others.
@@jesuschristsaves9067 By the way, can you refer me to a Calvinist text that says, "God decrees everything" where its meaning is consistent with the interpretation that you proposed.
I’m not completely decided on this issue but I am leaning toward paedo baptism. I wish I could ask Dr. White directly about Acts 2:39. Wasn’t Peter saying that baptism is a covenant?
Baptism is an intiate act not clean or convenant at all. It's ritual initiation that is quite stulid and useless just like eucharist. Talking jesus is the point nothing else here. So keep it dry no elements that's corrupt and no food either that can be corrupt too. Faith is matters here right ? Yes nothing else.
Hey @Apologia studios. I would love for you to make a video about Lds priesthood they claim they're the only church that has the priesthood, and I would like to understand about temples, and why they do baptism for the dead? And if you could explain about patriarchal blessings. I would love to understand what the heck is that and how is it different from the bible. I hope you see this comment God bless.
God became silent during this period because Abraham had not asked God's opinion before going into her. God made a covenant with him Genesis 12; Genesis 15. But he went into Hagar in Genesis 16, so God punished him with the sign of circumcision, to deter him from making the mistake of going into another strange woman, which may bring future confusion concerning the promised Seed. The Godhead had to come down physically in Genesis 18, in order for Abraham to have physical fellowship with them, as a witness of His eternal being, so Abraham could relate to God with knowledge. The descendants of the promised Seed were judged by being kept in captivity by the seed of Hagar for 400 years ( 430 years, because Moses acted hastily and didn't ask from God how to go about his commission. The currency of the Kingdom is always A.S.K- ask, seek knock). Abraham went in to Keturah without asking from God, and God became silent throughout the relationship. Knowing the mind of God about the promised Seed and promised land, as God had him "telling " the stars and imagining his descendants as the sand by the seashore, he again was trying to help God, but he must have told the other children about the original star, through which they would gain access into his inheritance. Genesis 18:18. Abraham sent them far away to the East, from the promised land. They only returned by the leading of the Star over Bethlehem, and they bowed down and worshipped the "Child " that was born Matthew 2:11 ( He was the only one in the entire Bible to accept the worship of man, even angels wouldn't). God then made a way for gentiles to be heirs of God and fellow-heirs with Christ, by the adoption of Sons John 1:12-14; Romans 8:9,14,17.
. Baptism was instituted because the children of Israel, despite the fact that they went through the Red sea, and then threatened God that they would return to Egypt, and made good their threats in Numbers 14:4 and Jeremiah 42:1, 43:4,7, and Johanan was in charge. So, God brought back Elijah - who was supposed to bring them back to God - but dropped the ball and now had to complete it through John the Baptist. He came baptizing to bring Israel back from Egypt- so to speak (Jesus as the Son, had to be taken back to Egypt and was brought back to the promised land). Thus by deciding to get baptized, they're showing to God that they repented of their decision, and now accept the One they sent to be their Messiah and King, as the Son of Man (David), and the Son of God, who will then fulfill God's will to Israel Exodus 19:6; 1 Peter 2:9(written only to the Jews). Acts 10, and 19:6; 11: 6, God sent His Holy Spirit directly to Cornelius and his family, despite the fact that they hadn't been baptized, but, He didn't tell Peter to go baptize them, (as He wasn't instructed to go replace the 12th desciple, which he did through divination). Philip baptized the Ethiopian Eunuch Acts 8:26-38, because they're considered to be part of Israel, (and God was rewarding the good deed of Ebed-Meleck in keeping Jeremiah alive- Jeremiah 38:6-13; 39:15-18; Isaiah 56:3, just like He rewarded Phinehas Numbers 25). Jesus came to baptize with the Holy Spirit. The fire baptism would be for those who do not receive His free gift of salvation, through the preaching of the gospel of the kingdom- for Israel, and the gospel of grace- for both Jews and Gentiles, who believe in God, and are saved by grace through faith in the sacrificial death, burial and resurrection of Jesus Christ from the dead. (By going back to Egypt, Israel nullified the whole purpose of passover, and crossing the Red sea and Jordan, thus they were given the law whereby every sin must be personally atoned for through the institution of the Priesthood, who brought the blood of the sacrificial animals before God. This became moot, as they did as they pleased, bringing sick polluted sacrifices. God stopped honoring them until Jesus came, went back to Egypt, came out, and fulfilled God's word, " out of Egypt have I called my Son." So, whosoever believes in Him is baptized into Him, by tge Holy Spirit, and took on the adoption of sons John 1:12-14, ushering in "the acceptable year of the Lord " or the preparation of the body of Christ- the Church, made up of both Jews and Gentiles. Romans 3; Ephesians chapters 1-4. So, all believers need to do is simply abide in Him by grace, through faith in His sacrificial death, burial and resurrection from the dead, until the redemption of His purchased possession!
Israel was baptized unto Moses, by crossing the Red sea 1 Corinthians 10:1-2. Believers are baptized into Christ, by the Holy Spirit, through the faith of the Believer in Christ. Galatians 3:24-29; Romans 6:2-10; 1 Corinthians 12:12-14, all are talking about baptism by faith, not water. Whosoever puts their faith and trust in the sacrificial death, burial and resurrection of Jesus Christ, is already circumcised and baptized into Him by the very circumcision and baptism of Jesus Christ. He already perfected everything that pertains to life and godliness for all Believers until He returns as promised to redeem His purchased possession and present them faultless before the presence of God the Father, in heavenly places! Ephesians 2:8-9; Galatians chapters 1-5; Colossians chapters 1-4 etc.
@@gaildrake5940 hi, Gail, thanks so much. Remember what Nathaniel said about Jesus, coming from Nazareth? Our Lord grew up in the north... no automatic permission to come down to southern Judah to preach in their synagogues & temples. Right? Look what the Pharisees said to him in the temple when he stood up to preach - by what “authority” are you preaching? And Jesus’ answer was a question right back at them: ‘What about John’s baptism?’ The key here, Gail, is to put Jesus circumcised on his 8th day; Mary’s sin offering of two turtle doves; and Jesus being baptized in the ‘living water’ of the Jordan - in front of “many” Pharisees and Sadusees (Mark 3:8) all in to the dogmatic rules of the day there to become a member of Israel. Without those 3 requirements fulfilled, Jesus wouldn’t have had authority to get passed the front gates into the temple to stand up inside to preach. What say you, Gail? This has been my investigation thus far. Hear from you soon.
@@salvatoreemma I understand but the act of baptism is to symbolize the washing away of sins to become a child of God. It is a public affirmation so was the Mikvah it is symbolic of what should be going on in the heart. Ritual purification is not new but has change to some degree.
To say that Jesus Baptized more people than John doesn't necessarily say that more people were immersed in actual water. Jesus is the living water... As in John 1... He is the Word! So if He was Baptizing people he was opening the eyes of people to what the scriptures really revealed through the Parables. They all show the symbols.and their meaning all the way back to Genesis.. All the Disciples spoke of these Mysteries or Hidden Things. So Jesus immersed people into the Spring of Living Water of who He is... THE WORD!
yeah, amen, michael - be baptized with the water of the word - the Gospel - and so baptize others through with the water of the word. May the baptism be so complete that there is a connection with the unseen and the seen through the physical water baptism - in the name of the Father, Son and Holy Spirit.
@@Mechanic618 I am not mishandling any text... Just as Christ said He came teaching in parables to reveal Hidden things from the foundations of Creation! Meaning that there is a deeper meaning in all texts, but in order to understand and see this, it must be given. I am just starting what is there, it may not be that everyone can see it or understand. But do not accuse of something you may not understand!
@@Mechanic618 If you look at all things from the point if view of Man... It would appear as though I came up with something new... But just remember all of what we currently know will be passing away, and a New Heaven and Earth will come! All these are symbolized through what the Messiah taught and are the Key to the Old testament text as well... But please by all means do not believe me either... Why else would we need the New Covenant spoken by the Prophets and described by Jeremiah 31.. Because teachings of man has been the problem... We have not been wrong... Just have known enough to get us to this point.. This has been little food in the WILDERNESS of Hosea.. There is much more than most know in the texts.. Isaiah 48:6 sheds light of this!
@@Mechanic618 What I am doing is actually listening to what The Spirit has to say and not Man... To Follow after the Messiah is to do as He did... First be Baptized, He is the Living Water... Be immersed both in actual water but moreover, in the Word! Fast.. Remove yourself from the LEAVEN of Men in the Desert where the Trees of Men nor their water or wisdom! Be Tested.. This is a Baptism of Fire... To refine the Wisdom you do have! this is what He meant by buying Gold refined in the Fire from Him, The Messiah... Not Man! Then allow yourself to be ministered to! Then go out and share with those who will Hear! But shake the Dust off that does not accept it... Please ask for yourself and receive the Drink of Water that will keep you from ever thirsting again.. I can only tell you about it... As John the Baptist did! It is good for you to test all that come. But unbelief will not help.. So just do as He did and know for certain!
Hosea11:9ASV"9I will not execute the fierceness of mine anger, I will not return to destroy Ephraim: for I am God, and not man; the Holy One in the midst of thee; and I will not come in wrath." Note please that God and man are mutually exclusive categories. Thus the Godman dogma is an absurdity not a subtlety.
JEHOVAH is changeless every statement about his nature in scripture is to be understood as having permanent application from eternity to eternity Malachi3:6KJV"6For I am the LORD, I change not; therefore ye sons of Jacob are not consumed." There is no incarnation.
Well he wasn't a creature before this alleged incarnation and after this supposed incarnation he became such. That is as profound a change as is conceivable.
Romans1:23KJV"23And changed the glory of the uncorruptible God into an image made like to corruptible man, and to birds, and fourfooted beasts, and creeping things." The apostle Paul denounces as folly the notion that God is like a man in appearance,what kind of harsh language might he have for the idea that he is a man?
The true gospel is the good news of the Person and work of the Lord Jesus Christ. In other words, it is concerning who Christ is and what He did to save His elect.The gospel includes the how and why, which can only be seen by faith. It is a message that declares how the eternal Son of God came down, took on a body of sinless flesh (John 1:14) as He was born of a virgin (Mat 1:23). He was both God and man in one Person. He was born under the Law to keep and fulfill it (Mat 5:18, Gal 4:4). He did that, not for Himself, but for all those He represented because they could not keep it themselves. The word of God calls these people the elect or His sheep, among several other names. His obedient life also included the part of dying. He took on the sin of His people as both a Substitute and Representative of those people. The Bible said He was "made to be sin" (II Cor 5:21) and the way that was done is by God imputing (legally reckoned or charged to the account of) sin to Christ. That means all the sin of all those people God chose was "laid on Him" (Isaiah 53:6). This sin was legally transferred to His account and He then owned it in such a way to be guilty of it all. God the Father poured out His wrath and hatred toward sin on His Son and had pleasure (Isaiah 53:10) in doing so, in that, He was completely satisfied in Christ as a Sacrifice that met all the demands of His strict Law and inflexible justice. Christ finished the work of paying the penalty of the Law and then said " It is finished" (John 19:30). He secured salvation for all God’s chosen people that would even be born. His resurrection is evidence of the acceptance of His sacrifice to the Father. The combined work of His obedience to the Law and His obedience unto death on the cross was considered establishing righteousness. This is what one of the Old Testament prophets prophesied as "bringing in an everlasting righteousness" (Daniel 9:24) as Christ died effectually and exclusively for those chosen of God before the world began (Eph 1:4). This righteousness is what God imputes to His people in the context of giving the life to believe in Christ. This puts them in a state called "Justification" and as a result they are eternally secure, in Christ. This is the gospel (Rom 1:16-17). All this takes place in such a way to show God as both a God of justice and a Savior. This is how grace reigns through righteousness (Rom 5:21).
(Romans 9:11-14) for the children being not yet born neither having done any good nor evil that the purpose of God according to election might stand not of works but of him that calleth - as it is written jacob have i loved but E. S. A. U. have i hated what shall we say then is there unrighteousness with God? God forbid(NO) (Romans 9:20-23) nay but oh man who art thou that repliest against God? Shall the thing formed say to him that formed it why has thou made me thus ? Hath not the potter power over the clay of the "same lump" to make one vessel unto honor(jacob) and another unto dishonor(esaw) what if God willing to show his wrath and to make his power known endured with much long suffering the vessels of wrath "fitted to destruction" (Proverbs 16:4) the LORD hath made all things for himself yea even the wicked for the day of evil (Isaiah 45:7) I form the light and create darkness I make peace and create evil I the LORD do all these things (Habakkuk 2:4-5) his soul which is lifted up is not upright in him he is a proud man neither keepth at home who enlargemeth his desire as hell and as is death and cannot be satisfied (Ecclesiastes 7:13) consider the work of God for who can straighten what he has made crooked? (Malachi 1:2-4) jacob have I loved but E. S. A. U. have I hated and they shall call THEM the border of WICKEDNESS and THE PEOPLE against whom the LORD hath indignation FOREVER (Psalm 11:5-6) but the WICKED and him that loveth "VIOLENCE" his soul hateth upon the WICKED he shall rain FIRE n BRIMSTONE this shall be the portion of their cup (Obadiah 1:10,18) for thy "VIOLENCE" against thy brother jacob shame shall cover thee and thou shalt be cut off FOREVER and there shall not be ANY remaining of the house of E. S. A. U. for the LORD hat spoken it (Romans 9:13) jacob have I loved but E. S. A. U. have I hated (Hebrews 12:16-17 kjv) lest there be any fornicator or profane person as E. S. AU - when he would have inherited the blessing he was REJECTED for he found NO place of REPENTANCE
1Corinthians1:3ASV"3Blessed be the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, the Father of mercies and God of all comfort". Obviously the God and Father of Jesus (JEHOVAH) is both a God and a Father. Thus how can he be equal to his Son who trinitarians insists is not a God.
@@aservantofJEHOVAH7849 1 Corinthians 2:10-14 For to us God revealed them through the Spirit; for the Spirit searches all things, even the depths of God. For who among men knows the thoughts of a man except the spirit of the man which is in him? Even so the thoughts of God no one knows except the Spirit of God. Now we have received, not the spirit of the world, but the Spirit who is from God, so that we may know the things freely given to us by God, which things we also speak, not in words taught by human wisdom, but in those taught by the Spirit, combining spiritual thoughts with spiritual words. But a natural man does not accept the things of the Spirit of God, for they are foolishness to him; and he cannot understand them, because they are spiritually appraised. But he who is spiritual appraises all things, yet he himself is appraised by no one. For who has known the mind of the Lord, that he will instruct Him? But we have the mind of Christ.❤️ Maybe IF you had the Holy Spirit, It would make more sense😉 ....but to have the Holy Spirit, you have to Believe (gr. Pisteuo- to entrust) in Yeshua/Jesus....and to Trust in Jesus, you have to be Drawn of the Father (Yahweh)- see John 6:44
By jesus christ power i debaptize you off. Jesus name I debaptize you off. Take the gross water off take all elements off. None that all dry and clear that. We only need Spirit no elements and corruption. All we need is Prayer and Spirit. Keep it dry no elements.
@@sebastianfischer498 you can't reject it in fact Jesus never said to baptize really in fact the story and acts really is the apostles or the disciples acting on their own free will and we know the ending of Mark doesn't say that it ends with verse 8 just like the end of Matthew doesn't say it either it just says make disciples it says nothing about acts in fact we already know that's not the case many touched by water and many converts also I did it early on and even in Middle ages you're just going by fake traditions of water magic
Sir, you are really not telling the whole truth about this issue. You, like most reformers, will not quote the whole passage as in Mark 1:4 and Luke 3:3 where it says clearly Johns's baptism was "for the remission of sins". Bad form dude. And don't give me the "eis" means "because of" nonsense. eis is NEVER translated because of in the scriptures. Nor is it translated Volkswagen bus, or cheese sandwich. Reason, none of those meanings are contained in eis. Please stop lying to your followers. Thanks,
Many are called... but few are Chosen! So this means that there is a Book of Life that already contains those name of the Chosen... But However, God will show Mercy on those who Come In Faith and Fear Him as in Malachi 3:16 Then those who feared the LORD spoke to one another, and the LORD gave attention and heard it, and a book of remembrance was written before Him for those who fear the LORD and who esteem His name. ‘They will be Mine,’ says the LORD of hosts, ‘on the day that I prepare My own possession, and I will spare them as a man spares his own son who serves him. So because all are not Chosen... By Faith and Fear of the Lord... They might have an opportunity to come into Grace!
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I could lose my job just for replying to an LGBTQ email with the word of God. If you're reading this, Please pray for me. ❤️
Did you lose it?
This was a great series. There is just too much theological gymnastics one has to do to get to infant baptism.
James White is awesome. He is so clear and expounds the text extremely well.
Great sermon! Would y’all be able to put that this is the 3rd part of the series in the title? I didn’t notice this one when it was posted!
Thanks for the upload.😎
I nearly LOL'd at the dew point comment... the dew point in Louisiana (where I am) is 77 and humidity 90% 😫 We're all just a big sticky puddle of sweat!
Great sermon JW!
I was once told during a conversation I was having that Christ's baptism was unique and special to him and that the infant baptism is equal to the washing ceremony of the Jews.
Thank you for this. Very helpful. Something one of my paedobaptist brothers pointed out:
I will point out that having an upcoming baptismal service, Dr. White made reference to, seems to go against the NT pattern too...we see over and over baptisms happening immediately after repentance and belief...not having to wait for a certain Sunday/service....
Thoughts on that? Thanks!
I think it is a logistical matter. When are people going to able to gather for a babtism, and how are they to be baptised? The church building has a pool for baptism, and eveyone is going to be there on Sunday. Also, those pools hold a lot of water, and it takes a while to fill them. They aren't designed to hold water continually.
Focusing in on the way the physical part of the baptism is performed is the same as focusing in on cutting off foreskin, washing your hands before a meal, not eating pork and many other things that clearly didn't matter to Jesus. Did you not just say it's what's in the heart that matters in this sermon. I don't know man, I don't think someone if going to go to hell if their heart is right with God and they confess and repent, but didn't get fully submerged. This whole full submersion thing is the same superficial stuff Jesus preached against.
As a reformed baptist, what do we do with infants/toddlers/children? I know what I believe and hold to, but there's very little discussion about this. I'd be curious to hear James White's thoughts on that.
Ephesians 6:4 bring them up in the training and admonition of the Lord.
Perfect response!!!@@larv8930
Nowhere in the bible is it stated clearing how baptism is done. Most pastors say that when Jesus was baptized He came out the water, so they automatically agree that it was immersion. If you have lived near a stream, because of erosion we have a lower and upper grounds. The bible didn't say He rose up out of the river, but rather came out. So logically Jesus stepped out from the lower ground of the river unto the banks, the higher ground. Nowhere in the old testament is baptism found to be by immersion, but by sprinkling and pouring; even on the day of Pentecost the Holy Spirit baptism was poured on the followers of Jesus. It's by faith, and faith alone. John the Baptist said that he baptized people unto repentance, but Jesus would baptized people with the Holy Spirit and fire. It is God Who does the baptism, not people or pastors.
Excellent,
And one should read Calvin too!
Why?
@@jesuschristsaves9067 Why read Calvin? 1. Because, if you think that Calvin is unbiblical or unsound then you need to know what he actually wrote, 2. Because, if you think that Calvin is biblical or sound then you need to know what he actually wrote, 3. Because, how long will you depend on second hand information, 4. Because, he was an influential figure in the Reformation/Protestant movement, 5. If you are to critique Calvin or Calvinism, then what good place to start than to read Calvin and related materials (including Jacob Arminius), 6. Other reasons, 7. If none of the above apply, then you're good.
@@rev.b.ryngksai
Calvinism is unbiblical.
*Calvinism says:* God decrees everything.
*the Bible says:* _“and have built the high places of Baal to burn their sons in the fire as burnt offerings to Baal, which _*_I did not command or decree, nor did it come into my mind-”_*
Jeremiah 19:5 ESV
www.bible.com/59/jer.19.5.esv
The doctrine of Calvin is in contradiction to the Bible so again, why read Calvin?
@@jesuschristsaves9067 Keep on reading, my brother. Just avoid what you want to avoid. Don't mistake me for a Calvinist, I do not consider myself a Calvinist... yet. But I do read. For that matter, I read even the Quran, the Gita, Hawkins, and others.
@@jesuschristsaves9067 By the way, can you refer me to a Calvinist text that says, "God decrees everything" where its meaning is consistent with the interpretation that you proposed.
The Locust tree has edible portions apparently.
I’m not completely decided on this issue but I am leaning toward paedo baptism. I wish I could ask Dr. White directly about Acts 2:39. Wasn’t Peter saying that baptism is a covenant?
I need to call him on the Dividing Line when he does the live calls.
Baptism is an intiate act not clean or convenant at all. It's ritual initiation that is quite stulid and useless just like eucharist.
Talking jesus is the point nothing else here. So keep it dry no elements that's corrupt and no food either that can be corrupt too. Faith is matters here right ? Yes nothing else.
@@yaruqadishi8326 Sorry. I’m unable to follow your train of thought due to your broken English.
@@kurtnyuli9095 try rereading my post
@@yaruqadishi8326 I did about 5 times. I still don’t follow what I are trying to say.
Hey @Apologia studios. I would love for you to make a video about Lds priesthood they claim they're the only church that has the priesthood, and I would like to understand about temples, and why they do baptism for the dead? And if you could explain about patriarchal blessings. I would love to understand what the heck is that and how is it different from the bible. I hope you see this comment God bless.
I think Dr. White talks about the LDs priesthood in his dividing line, you may look it up. I listened to it some yours back.
need to mute the house mics !!!!!
God became silent during this period because Abraham had not asked God's opinion before going into her. God made a covenant with him Genesis 12; Genesis 15. But he went into Hagar in Genesis 16, so God punished him with the sign of circumcision, to deter him from making the mistake of going into another strange woman, which may bring future confusion concerning the promised Seed. The Godhead had to come down physically in Genesis 18, in order for Abraham to have physical fellowship with them, as a witness of His eternal being, so Abraham could relate to God with knowledge.
The descendants of the promised Seed were judged by being kept in captivity by the seed of Hagar for 400 years ( 430 years, because Moses acted hastily and didn't ask from God how to go about his commission. The currency of the Kingdom is always A.S.K- ask, seek knock).
Abraham went in to Keturah without asking from God, and God became silent throughout the relationship. Knowing the mind of God about the promised Seed and promised land, as God had him "telling " the stars and imagining his descendants as the sand by the seashore, he again was trying to help God, but he must have told the other children about the original star, through which they would gain access into his inheritance. Genesis 18:18. Abraham sent them far away to the East, from the promised land. They only returned by the leading of the Star over Bethlehem, and they bowed down and worshipped the "Child " that was born Matthew 2:11 ( He was the only one in the entire Bible to accept the worship of man, even angels wouldn't).
God then made a way for gentiles to be heirs of God and fellow-heirs with Christ, by the adoption of Sons John 1:12-14; Romans 8:9,14,17.
. Baptism was instituted because the children of Israel, despite the fact that they went through the Red sea, and then threatened God that they would return to Egypt, and made good their threats in Numbers 14:4 and Jeremiah 42:1, 43:4,7, and Johanan was in charge. So, God brought back Elijah - who was supposed to bring them back to God - but dropped the ball and now had to complete it through John the Baptist. He came baptizing to bring Israel back from Egypt- so to speak (Jesus as the Son, had to be taken back to Egypt and was brought back to the promised land). Thus by deciding to get baptized, they're showing to God that they repented of their decision, and now accept the One they sent to be their Messiah and King, as the Son of Man (David), and the Son of God, who will then fulfill God's will to Israel Exodus 19:6; 1 Peter 2:9(written only to the Jews).
Acts 10, and 19:6; 11: 6, God sent His Holy Spirit directly to Cornelius and his family, despite the fact that they hadn't been baptized, but, He didn't tell Peter to go baptize them, (as He wasn't instructed to go replace the 12th desciple, which he did through divination).
Philip baptized the Ethiopian Eunuch Acts 8:26-38, because they're considered to be part of Israel, (and God was rewarding the good deed of Ebed-Meleck in keeping Jeremiah alive- Jeremiah 38:6-13; 39:15-18; Isaiah 56:3, just like He rewarded Phinehas Numbers 25).
Jesus came to baptize with the Holy Spirit.
The fire baptism would be for those who do not receive His free gift of salvation, through the preaching of the gospel of the kingdom- for Israel, and the gospel of grace- for both Jews and Gentiles, who believe in God, and are saved by grace through faith in the sacrificial death, burial and resurrection of Jesus Christ from the dead.
(By going back to Egypt, Israel nullified the whole purpose of passover, and crossing the Red sea and Jordan, thus they were given the law whereby every sin must be personally atoned for through the institution of the Priesthood, who brought the blood of the sacrificial animals before God. This became moot, as they did as they pleased, bringing sick polluted sacrifices. God stopped honoring them until Jesus came, went back to Egypt, came out, and fulfilled God's word, " out of Egypt have I called my Son." So, whosoever believes in Him is baptized into Him, by tge Holy Spirit, and took on the adoption of sons John 1:12-14, ushering in "the acceptable year of the Lord " or the preparation of the body of Christ- the Church, made up of both Jews and Gentiles. Romans 3; Ephesians chapters 1-4. So, all believers need to do is simply abide in Him by grace, through faith in His sacrificial death, burial and resurrection from the dead, until the redemption of His purchased possession!
He completely missed the connection to procelyte baptism.
Israel was baptized unto Moses, by crossing the Red sea 1 Corinthians 10:1-2.
Believers are baptized into Christ, by the Holy Spirit, through the faith of the Believer in Christ. Galatians 3:24-29; Romans 6:2-10; 1 Corinthians 12:12-14, all are talking about baptism by faith, not water.
Whosoever puts their faith and trust in the sacrificial death, burial and resurrection of Jesus Christ, is already circumcised and baptized into Him by the very circumcision and baptism of Jesus Christ.
He already perfected everything that pertains to life and godliness for all Believers until He returns as promised to redeem His purchased possession and present them faultless before the presence of God the Father, in heavenly places!
Ephesians 2:8-9; Galatians chapters 1-5; Colossians chapters 1-4 etc.
Why, specifically, was Jesus baptized (ie: washed )?
1st Corinthians 10:1-3 renewing washing of the word
To fulfill all righteousness. Baptism is necessary
For Jesus it was an example to others what they had to do ritual purification was called a Mikvah before coming before God
@@gaildrake5940 hi, Gail, thanks so much. Remember what Nathaniel said about Jesus, coming from Nazareth? Our Lord grew up in the north... no automatic permission to come down to southern Judah to preach in their synagogues & temples. Right? Look what the Pharisees said to him in the temple when he stood up to preach - by what “authority” are you preaching? And Jesus’ answer was a question right back at them: ‘What about John’s baptism?’ The key here, Gail, is to put Jesus circumcised on his 8th day; Mary’s sin offering of two turtle doves; and Jesus being baptized in the ‘living water’ of the Jordan - in front of “many” Pharisees and Sadusees (Mark 3:8) all in to the dogmatic rules of the day there to become a member of Israel. Without those 3 requirements fulfilled, Jesus wouldn’t have had authority to get passed the front gates into the temple to stand up inside to preach. What say you, Gail? This has been my investigation thus far. Hear from you soon.
@@salvatoreemma I understand but the act of baptism is to symbolize the washing away of sins to become a child of God. It is a public affirmation so was the Mikvah it is symbolic of what should be going on in the heart. Ritual purification is not new but has change to some degree.
To say that Jesus Baptized more people than John doesn't necessarily say that more people were immersed in actual water. Jesus is the living water... As in John 1... He is the Word! So if He was Baptizing people he was opening the eyes of people to what the scriptures really revealed through the Parables. They all show the symbols.and their meaning all the way back to Genesis.. All the Disciples spoke of these Mysteries or Hidden Things. So Jesus immersed people into the Spring of Living Water of who He is... THE WORD!
yeah, amen, michael - be baptized with the water of the word - the Gospel - and so baptize others through with the water of the word. May the baptism be so complete that there is a connection with the unseen and the seen through the physical water baptism - in the name of the Father, Son and Holy Spirit.
@@Mechanic618 I am not mishandling any text... Just as Christ said He came teaching in parables to reveal Hidden things from the foundations of Creation! Meaning that there is a deeper meaning in all texts, but in order to understand and see this, it must be given. I am just starting what is there, it may not be that everyone can see it or understand. But do not accuse of something you may not understand!
@@Mechanic618 If you look at all things from the point if view of Man... It would appear as though I came up with something new... But just remember all of what we currently know will be passing away, and a New Heaven and Earth will come! All these are symbolized through what the Messiah taught and are the Key to the Old testament text as well... But please by all means do not believe me either... Why else would we need the New Covenant spoken by the Prophets and described by Jeremiah 31.. Because teachings of man has been the problem... We have not been wrong... Just have known enough to get us to this point.. This has been little food in the WILDERNESS of Hosea.. There is much more than most know in the texts.. Isaiah 48:6 sheds light of this!
@@Mechanic618 ephesians 5:25, gives you a clear picture of the water, as well as john 4.
@@Mechanic618 What I am doing is actually listening to what The Spirit has to say and not Man... To Follow after the Messiah is to do as He did... First be Baptized, He is the Living Water... Be immersed both in actual water but moreover, in the Word! Fast.. Remove yourself from the LEAVEN of Men in the Desert where the Trees of Men nor their water or wisdom! Be Tested.. This is a Baptism of Fire... To refine the Wisdom you do have! this is what He meant by buying Gold refined in the Fire from Him, The Messiah... Not Man! Then allow yourself to be ministered to! Then go out and share with those who will Hear! But shake the Dust off that does not accept it... Please ask for yourself and receive the Drink of Water that will keep you from ever thirsting again.. I can only tell you about it... As John the Baptist did! It is good for you to test all that come. But unbelief will not help.. So just do as He did and know for certain!
Every serious student of the Bible should avail himself the book "Classic Baptism by James W. Dale" and "Meaning and Mode of Baptism by Jay E. Adams".
America is the new Babylon
please explain.
This church needs a nursery. Come on parents, the screaming kids distracts from hearing the message.
Hosea11:9ASV"9I will not execute the fierceness of mine anger, I will not return to destroy Ephraim: for I am God, and not man; the Holy One in the midst of thee; and I will not come in wrath." Note please that God and man are mutually exclusive categories. Thus the Godman dogma is an absurdity not a subtlety.
JEHOVAH is changeless every statement about his nature in scripture is to be understood as having permanent application from eternity to eternity
Malachi3:6KJV"6For I am the LORD, I change not; therefore ye sons of Jacob are not consumed."
There is no incarnation.
Well he wasn't a creature before this alleged incarnation and after this supposed incarnation he became such. That is as profound a change as is conceivable.
If he became a man he became a creature.
Romans1:23KJV"23And changed the glory of the uncorruptible God into an image made like to corruptible man, and to birds, and fourfooted beasts, and creeping things." The apostle Paul denounces as folly the notion that God is like a man in appearance,what kind of harsh language might he have for the idea that he is a man?
Well basically that is the standard doctrine of the incarnation. That God became fully man. If you have your own version of doctrine let's here it.
You will eat the bugs!
The true gospel is the good news of the Person and work of the Lord Jesus Christ. In other words, it is concerning who Christ is and what He did to save His elect.The gospel includes the how and why, which can only be seen by faith.
It is a message that declares how the eternal Son of God came down, took on a body of sinless flesh (John 1:14) as He was born of a virgin (Mat 1:23). He was both God and man in one Person.
He was born under the Law to keep and fulfill it (Mat 5:18, Gal 4:4). He did that, not for Himself, but for all those He represented because they could not keep it themselves. The word of God calls these people the elect or His sheep, among several other names.
His obedient life also included the part of dying. He took on the sin of His people as both a Substitute and Representative of those people. The Bible said He was "made to be sin" (II Cor 5:21) and the way that was done is by God imputing (legally reckoned or charged to the account of) sin to Christ. That means all the sin of all those people God chose was "laid on Him" (Isaiah 53:6). This sin was legally transferred to His account and He then owned it in such a way to be guilty of it all.
God the Father poured out His wrath and hatred toward sin on His Son and had pleasure (Isaiah 53:10) in doing so, in that, He was completely satisfied in Christ as a Sacrifice that met all the demands of His strict Law and inflexible justice. Christ finished the work of paying the penalty of the Law and then said " It is finished" (John 19:30). He secured salvation for all God’s chosen people that would even be born. His resurrection is evidence of the acceptance of His sacrifice to the Father.
The combined work of His obedience to the Law and His obedience unto death on the cross was considered establishing righteousness. This is what one of the Old Testament prophets prophesied as "bringing in an everlasting righteousness" (Daniel 9:24) as Christ died effectually and exclusively for those chosen of God before the world began (Eph 1:4).
This righteousness is what God imputes to His people in the context of giving the life to believe in Christ. This puts them in a state called "Justification" and as a result they are eternally secure, in Christ. This is the gospel (Rom 1:16-17).
All this takes place in such a way to show God as both a God of justice and a Savior. This is how grace reigns through righteousness (Rom 5:21).
(Romans 9:11-14) for the children being not yet born neither having done any good nor evil that the purpose of God according to election might stand not of works but of him that calleth - as it is written jacob have i loved but
E. S. A. U. have i hated what shall we say then is there unrighteousness with God? God forbid(NO)
(Romans 9:20-23) nay but oh man who art thou that repliest against God? Shall the thing formed say to him that formed it why has thou made me thus ? Hath not the potter power over the clay of the "same lump" to make one vessel unto honor(jacob) and another unto dishonor(esaw) what if God willing to show his wrath and to make his power known endured with much long suffering the vessels of wrath "fitted to destruction"
(Proverbs 16:4) the LORD hath made all things for himself yea even the wicked for the day of evil
(Isaiah 45:7) I form the light and create darkness I make peace and create evil I the LORD do all these things
(Habakkuk 2:4-5) his soul which is lifted up is not upright in him he is a proud man neither keepth at home who enlargemeth his desire as hell and as is death and cannot be satisfied
(Ecclesiastes 7:13) consider the work of God for who can straighten what he has made crooked?
(Malachi 1:2-4) jacob have I loved but E. S. A. U. have I hated and they shall call THEM the border of WICKEDNESS and THE PEOPLE against whom the LORD hath indignation FOREVER
(Psalm 11:5-6) but the WICKED and him that loveth "VIOLENCE" his soul hateth upon the WICKED he shall rain FIRE n BRIMSTONE this shall be the portion of their cup
(Obadiah 1:10,18) for thy "VIOLENCE" against thy brother jacob shame shall cover thee and thou shalt be cut off FOREVER and there shall not be ANY remaining of the house of E. S. A. U. for the LORD hat spoken it
(Romans 9:13) jacob have I loved but E. S. A. U. have I hated
(Hebrews 12:16-17 kjv) lest there be any fornicator or profane person as E. S. AU - when he would have inherited the blessing he was REJECTED for he found NO place of REPENTANCE
Lol locust are kosher though
By the way, Gail. Your favorite Bible verse (aren’t there so many)? One of mine is 1 Samuel 10:6.
@@salvatoreemma that's so nice mate.
1Corinthians1:3ASV"3Blessed be the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, the Father of mercies and God of all comfort". Obviously the God and Father of Jesus (JEHOVAH) is both a God and a Father. Thus how can he be equal to his Son who trinitarians insists is not a God.
Trinitarians insist is NOT a God? 🤔 that doesn't make sense?
@@sandman9390 nothing about the trinity makes sense.
@@aservantofJEHOVAH7849
1 Corinthians 2:10-14 For to us God revealed them through the Spirit; for the Spirit searches all things, even the depths of God. For who among men knows the thoughts of a man except the spirit of the man which is in him? Even so the thoughts of God no one knows except the Spirit of God. Now we have received, not the spirit of the world, but the Spirit who is from God, so that we may know the things freely given to us by God, which things we also speak, not in words taught by human wisdom, but in those taught by the Spirit, combining spiritual thoughts with spiritual words. But a natural man does not accept the things of the Spirit of God, for they are foolishness to him; and he cannot understand them, because they are spiritually appraised. But he who is spiritual appraises all things, yet he himself is appraised by no one. For who has known the mind of the Lord, that he will instruct Him? But we have the mind of Christ.❤️
Maybe IF you had the Holy Spirit, It would make more sense😉
....but to have the Holy Spirit, you have to Believe (gr. Pisteuo- to entrust) in Yeshua/Jesus....and to Trust in Jesus, you have to be Drawn of the Father (Yahweh)- see John 6:44
By jesus christ power i debaptize you off. Jesus name I debaptize you off. Take the gross water off take all elements off. None that all dry and clear that.
We only need Spirit no elements and corruption. All we need is Prayer and Spirit. Keep it dry no elements.
no thats wrong. I reject what you say.
@@sebastianfischer498 you can't reject it in fact Jesus never said to baptize really in fact the story and acts really is the apostles or the disciples acting on their own free will and we know the ending of Mark doesn't say that it ends with verse 8 just like the end of Matthew doesn't say it either it just says make disciples it says nothing about acts in fact we already know that's not the case many touched by water and many converts also I did it early on and even in Middle ages you're just going by fake traditions of water magic
@@yaruqadishi8326 The apostles are good enough for me. So I go with them and reject your teaching.
@@sebastianfischer498 they're not good enough for you and they have false teaching just like that Jesus guy
@@sebastianfischer498 you can't reject what I'm saying or you're rejecting God
Sir, you are really not telling the whole truth about this issue. You, like most reformers, will not quote the whole passage as in Mark 1:4 and Luke 3:3 where it says clearly Johns's baptism was "for the remission of sins". Bad form dude. And don't give me the "eis" means "because of" nonsense. eis is NEVER translated because of in the scriptures. Nor is it translated Volkswagen bus, or cheese sandwich. Reason, none of those meanings are contained in eis.
Please stop lying to your followers.
Thanks,
Let me guess? Church of Christ?
What Baal are these snakes from ? painted coffins....
Calvinism is illogical. Why do you get baptized if you were supposedly “predestined” to Heaven and cant lose your salvation? Hahahaha
Ephesians 1:5
Romans 8:29-30
Because one is commanded to be baptized.
I don't know if you actually understand what you just said.
Many are called... but few are Chosen! So this means that there is a Book of Life that already contains those name of the Chosen... But However, God will show Mercy on those who Come In Faith and Fear Him as in Malachi 3:16 Then those who feared the LORD spoke to one another, and the LORD gave attention and heard it, and a book of remembrance was written before Him for those who fear the LORD and who esteem His name. ‘They will be Mine,’ says the LORD of hosts, ‘on the day that I prepare My own possession, and I will spare them as a man spares his own son who serves him.
So because all are not Chosen... By Faith and Fear of the Lord... They might have an opportunity to come into Grace!
@Longbow657 😂