You never mentioned where you cue up on the cue ball. Low left, draw, whatever. That would help. I'd guess low left on left side, low right on right side?
A friend and I were at a little beer joint in San Antonio back in the 70's and the place had 2 bar tables. It was a week day and early in the afternoon so only a couple of guys were in the place. I put in a quarter and racked em' so my friend could break. We always went with the 'knock the crap out of the head ball' break. My buddy did just that and made all of the stripes, and all but 3 of the solids, 8 ball included. All that remained was 3 solids and the cue ball. The sound of so many balls going in was amazing. We couldn't believe it. We were high 5-ing and going nuts, but the only other 2 guys in the place had just left before it happened. We were like, "Wow, did you see..." no one to share it with. It was the most amazing break I ever saw.
@@LearnBilliards miracle break indeed. The sound of that many going in and rolling down was awesome. Like thunder or something. I only wish that more people would've seen it.
8 ball will go enough that it's probably worth it to use, but keep in mind you are much more likely to get the cue ball tied up at the bottom of the table. If your opponent can run and you don't have an opening shot - game over.
Use low left to keep the ball towards the center of the table. Give it a try. If you are breaking from the left side of the table. Do opposite for right side of the table.
Learn Billiards thanks for the tip. I tried it and can keep the ball closer to mid table, but still lose a lot of energy getting to the rack. Not getting the spread I'd like to see. To each his own!
@@mattmason1694 it dose take some getting use too but stick with it. Try hitting the ball at 5 o'clock of hitting from the right side of the table and 7 o'clock from the left side for greater cue ball control
I feel like I make a ball on the break 70% of the time hitting the head ball and I agree putting any English on is going to take power from the break. I’ve always been told never use English unless you half to. I also don’t play hitting the eight ball in on the break is a win to each their own tho
Got in a game with a dude about a month ago,dude makes the 8 before I have my cue together,I racked again and he makes it again.Im down 10 bucks and barely have my cue tightened.I have never seen this back to back,with me or anyone else behind the cue,ever.He was using this break.
He might have loosened the rack--if the head ball or the one behind it is off by a hair... the 8 ball comes out on that side towards the side pocket if breaking from the opposite side. If you play him again, keep an eye on his rack for tightness.
mike collins I racked,and measured to make sure the spot was right.He broke from the right side both times.8 went into the right corner first.and the left side the second time.
@@ShootStuff - well... that's about all I got. I have done it consecutively myself--both were racked by two different opponents warming up before a small bar tournament. While I knew what I was attempting, I still chalk it up to a bit of luck.
How are u down ? Did he call the 8 ball to be pocketed ? Ive always heard and read that it is NOT a win if u sink the 8 ball on the break unless it is a called shot
The thing with this type of break is that you spread the balls out and there are very few groups, happens all the time especially the core around the 8 ball.
So why wasn't this turtle rack made to accommodate 9 ball too? Also, I've been hitting the second ball on my breaks for decades. One time made three 8 balls on the break in a row. By hitting the second ball it creates a sideways sweep of the balls between the two narrower rails. This way you get a lot more bang for your break going sideways because the balls are crashing each other quicker...when balls have to travel the long ways up and down on a break they lose their momentum.
the best break varies with condtion of cloth.....conditon of the balls..... atmospheric conditions.....and ability to control the cueball .....yup ..... results matter
Tim Johle nice! So you must be a professional pool player who’s input is very much valuable to everyone else right? Why else would you make this statement! What’s your fargo rating bro? Oh wait! Just looked you up! You’re not even ranked! Must be the best person to give advice though right?
i was having so and so good break , and earlier tonight i try doing something i think i was doing wrong , so last 4 break i decide take my right foot and line it up to head ball of rack and then i realize my breaking power. im a lefty i was lining up my break with my left foot and wasn't getting break i normally get, like your 2 nd break.
Had a naive old man that I whooped in 8 ball and 9 ball argue with me about the rack making friction ..wrong these racks break and send balls off the spot way better than traditional triangle rack and that's why the pros use them..also because someone can't tamper with the rack to screw you over as well
I grew up seeing my uncles hit a rack and 3 or 4 balls would all go in the same pocket off the break. But little me didnt pay attention. You know the ball or the angle this can be achieved?
Can you explain where you are putting the cue ball in the kitchen, what English you are using and show exactly where you are trying to hit that second ball buy putting the cue ball by the second ball in the rack and showing an overhead picture of the rack with where the cue ball should hit the second ball
Chris Lansaw dude did you watch the video? Just watch where the cue ball is set. He did it twice!! English?....on a break oh boy ...you must be a beginner player! You don’t need English on break ..and as far as the break goes ..and where to hit the ball dude go back and listen to what he said!
Chris Lansaw not to mention if you have to hit the second ball in the rack where do think the cue ball should be placed...think about it use your head!
Hey Chris. I usually see folks put the cue ball in the front of the kitchen, anywhere from 3 fingers to 1 ball's distance away from the rail - for this break. You want to hit low on the cue ball, like a draw shot, to help avoid scratching in the corner. Some folks add outside english to keep cue ball from ending up near foot rail. Or inside english to go to the foot rail & come back up with the cue ball.
Wow Dean, are you some kind of newby? English on the break has everything to do with where the cue ball goes after it hits the rail...think about it use your head
Sorry but this is definitely not the best 8 ball break. There are good reasons you don't see pros breaking this way and there's 3 things I don't like about using that break (no, I'm not a pro). (1) Zero cue ball control (2) Higher percentage for a scratch (3) Making the 8 ball on the break isn't how I like to "win" a game anyway because it's mostly luck. You may make some balls this way but good luck getting a decent shot afterwards.
Great method . But during league wouldn't be a good idea because people are nazis these days in APA . Must hit 1 ball "object ball" (depends on who you are playing) 😑
The rule states "3. Breaking - To be a legal break, players must break from behind the head string. The head ball or second ball must be struck first and at least four object balls must be driven to the rails or a ball must be pocketed" You're welcome.
Great video man! Tried this method last night and got three balls in on my first try
Awesome. Glad it worked for you
2:40 hahahahaha
You never mentioned where you cue up on the cue ball. Low left, draw, whatever. That would help. I'd guess low left on left side, low right on right side?
Question: Where on the cue ball are you hitting?
So where abouts do you position the cue ball at.
wherer do you hit the cue and what english if any .thanks
Thank you for giving us half the important information on this break
That intro almost made me spitt out my water
Lol. Sorry. I have a new intro that i just had made. Much more suttle
A friend and I were at a little beer joint in San Antonio back in the 70's and the place had 2 bar tables. It was a week day and early in the afternoon so only a couple of guys were in the place. I put in a quarter and racked em' so my friend could break. We always went with the 'knock the crap out of the head ball' break. My buddy did just that and made all of the stripes, and all but 3 of the solids, 8 ball included. All that remained was 3 solids and the cue ball. The sound of so many balls going in was amazing. We couldn't believe it. We were high 5-ing and going nuts, but the only other 2 guys in the place had just left before it happened. We were like, "Wow, did you see..." no one to share it with. It was the most amazing break I ever saw.
That's a miracle break. Lol
@@LearnBilliards miracle break indeed. The sound of that many going in and rolling down was awesome. Like thunder or something. I only wish that more people would've seen it.
We called that the "El Monte" break.
I've had the 8 ball in the side pocket many times.
8 ball will go enough that it's probably worth it to use, but keep in mind you are much more likely to get the cue ball tied up at the bottom of the table. If your opponent can run and you don't have an opening shot - game over.
Use low left to keep the ball towards the center of the table. Give it a try. If you are breaking from the left side of the table. Do opposite for right side of the table.
Learn Billiards thanks for the tip. I tried it and can keep the ball closer to mid table, but still lose a lot of energy getting to the rack. Not getting the spread I'd like to see. To each his own!
@@mattmason1694 it dose take some getting use too but stick with it. Try hitting the ball at 5 o'clock of hitting from the right side of the table and 7 o'clock from the left side for greater cue ball control
I feel like I make a ball on the break 70% of the time hitting the head ball and I agree putting any English on is going to take power from the break. I’ve always been told never use English unless you half to. I also don’t play hitting the eight ball in on the break is a win to each their own tho
Figured it out ... its a power break and its right or left pocket off the break. Imma gonna have to practice hard thanks again for making me remember
You got it. Use low inside English
That dog was learning something in the background
yeah, he's an intermediate player
Got in a game with a dude about a month ago,dude makes the 8 before I have my cue together,I racked again and he makes it again.Im down 10 bucks and barely have my cue tightened.I have never seen this back to back,with me or anyone else behind the cue,ever.He was using this break.
With bottom left breaking from the left
He might have loosened the rack--if the head ball or the one behind it is off by a hair... the 8 ball comes out on that side towards the side pocket if breaking from the opposite side. If you play him again, keep an eye on his rack for tightness.
mike collins I racked,and measured to make sure the spot was right.He broke from the right side both times.8 went into the right corner first.and the left side the second time.
@@ShootStuff - well... that's about all I got. I have done it consecutively myself--both were racked by two different opponents warming up before a small bar tournament. While I knew what I was attempting, I still chalk it up to a bit of luck.
How are u down ? Did he call the 8 ball to be pocketed ? Ive always heard and read that it is NOT a win if u sink the 8 ball on the break unless it is a called shot
If not i gotta buy some beer and maybe convince either one of them to show me again. Thanks for the vid you reminded me why i love 8 ball !
The thing with this type of break is that you spread the balls out and there are very few groups, happens all the time especially the core around the 8 ball.
So why wasn't this turtle rack made to accommodate 9 ball too? Also, I've been hitting the second ball on my breaks for decades. One time made three 8 balls on the break in a row. By hitting the second ball it creates a sideways sweep of the balls between the two narrower rails. This way you get a lot more bang for your break going sideways because the balls are crashing each other quicker...when balls have to travel the long ways up and down on a break they lose their momentum.
It does work for a 9 ball rack as well.
the best break varies with condtion of cloth.....conditon of the balls..... atmospheric conditions.....and ability to control the cueball .....yup ..... results matter
dog looks interested.
Rick from pawn stars plays pool pretty well
Very similar to the "8 ball break" I do. Works great
No try it with out a magic rack?
So are u trying to control the cue ball and leave it somewhere specific or are u just letting the rock off its leash for this risky break?
That rack turns me off. 4 ball still in the rack after the break. Pick the ball up and move the rack or play on? The rack doesn’t sit flat.
You play on the rack if there is a ball on it after break. It gets removed when all balls are clear.
Tim Johle nice! So you must be a professional pool player who’s input is very much valuable to everyone else right? Why else would you make this statement! What’s your fargo rating bro? Oh wait! Just looked you up! You’re not even ranked! Must be the best person to give advice though right?
Okay Minnesota Fats!!!😂😂😂
i was having so and so good break , and earlier tonight i try doing something i think i was doing wrong , so last 4 break i decide take my right foot and line it up to head ball of rack and then i realize my breaking power. im a lefty i was lining up my break with my left foot and wasn't getting break i normally get, like your 2 nd break.
Now you are lined up correctly
Question...what's the name of that rack you mentioned? I'm not sure I heard that right
Is this a video on breaking or an advertisement?!
You should show an overhead view . Anything on that's on the table would interfere with the balls , like that rack .
Had a naive old man that I whooped in 8 ball and 9 ball argue with me about the rack making friction ..wrong these racks break and send balls off the spot way better than traditional triangle rack and that's why the pros use them..also because someone can't tamper with the rack to screw you over as well
I grew up seeing my uncles hit a rack and 3 or 4 balls would all go in the same pocket off the break. But little me didnt pay attention. You know the ball or the angle this can be achieved?
I broke this way for a long time, until I realized I could break the second ball from a diamond further in and get crazy movement out of the rack.
Mark Kindsvatter nice! That must be why you have no BCA rank, and are an APA 4
@@saral4617 Maybe Mark doesn't play in BCA leagues? So he can't have an opinion if he's not ranked high enough?
@@midwestmotionInc was i talking to you…? No. So kindly take it deep
to high of a scratch %with that break for me I go.
Brian Webb cause you’re hitting the ball wrong
Can you explain where you are putting the cue ball in the kitchen, what English you are using and show exactly where you are trying to hit that second ball buy putting the cue ball by the second ball in the rack and showing an overhead picture of the rack with where the cue ball should hit the second ball
Chris Lansaw dude did you watch the video? Just watch where the cue ball is set. He did it twice!! English?....on a break oh boy ...you must be a beginner player! You don’t need English on break ..and as far as the break goes ..and where to hit the ball dude go back and listen to what he said!
Chris Lansaw not to mention if you have to hit the second ball in the rack where do think the cue ball should be placed...think about it use your head!
@@deannetzel1606 Easy Dean, he asked a few simple questions. Im sure he's trying to learn something here.
Hey Chris. I usually see folks put the cue ball in the front of the kitchen, anywhere from 3 fingers to 1 ball's distance away from the rail - for this break. You want to hit low on the cue ball, like a draw shot, to help avoid scratching in the corner. Some folks add outside english to keep cue ball from ending up near foot rail. Or inside english to go to the foot rail & come back up with the cue ball.
Wow Dean, are you some kind of newby? English on the break has everything to do with where the cue ball goes after it hits the rail...think about it use your head
Wow good to know, thanks for that Eddie, fantastic tip. 🔝🤩👍👋👋
Im happy you got something out of it. Good luck shooting.
Sweet looking pooch
Ive been playing pool all my life and switching genders for 6 years. Either way, I can confirm that having a tight rack is ideal.
That intro scared the HELL out of me
Thank you very much Eddie, very appreciated it would be a big help for me. 🔝😃😃😃
Yes this break works great if trying to make the eight but it is much to hard to control the cue ball for an opening shot imo.
Good stuff! 👍
You shoot left handed like me and that's cause I'm right handed
I will try it and I will tell you my results 😉👍
Yes. please do.
The first break you actually hit the 1 first. Second break much better.
If i remember corectly. Of the break all the balls would go bottom left pocket.
Where on the cue ball do you hit?
If hitting from the right side of the table hit low right. From the left side low left
coreys break
1:54 look at that dog.....
Why play on a big G?
Its a great table and has been in my family for many years. Big G was used in tournaments many years ago.
@@LearnBilliards yeah I know. I played on them years ago it's just that diamonds play way different and nobody plays on the big G anymore
I mean. Most house tables aren’t diamonds
No shot on first break
Don’t you have to hit the one ball first on the break
There is no rule that you must hit the head ball first. This is a legal break
If you are playing in a league or tournament check the rules. APA league says you have to hit the head all or a ball in the second row first.
you wouldn't DARE hit the 8 ball first with a pop shot?
Sorry but this is definitely not the best 8 ball break. There are good reasons you don't see pros breaking this way and there's 3 things I don't like about using that break (no, I'm not a pro). (1) Zero cue ball control (2) Higher percentage for a scratch (3) Making the 8 ball on the break isn't how I like to "win" a game anyway because it's mostly luck. You may make some balls this way but good luck getting a decent shot afterwards.
I can't hear it....bye.
What is that cloutch on such a nice table 😒
Terrible cue ball control though
Ciao ciao =bye bye 😁😇
2:38 hahahahaha
Great method . But during league wouldn't be a good idea because people are nazis these days in APA . Must hit 1 ball "object ball" (depends on who you are playing) 😑
The rule states "3. Breaking - To be a legal break, players must break from behind the head string. The head ball or second ball must be struck first and at least four object balls must be driven to the rails or a ball must be pocketed"
You're welcome.
NO! That "Turtle" rack will affect the roll of the balls after the break. Quit being lazy and learn how to do a proper rack
Don't know anything about that 'turtle' but the magic rack works just fine.