@@thenamesloca I can see that, i am actually looking How James Cameron cast Arnold as the Terminator and there is another comment of yours lol "Thanks the gods it was Arnold and not O.J" Lol.
@@Th33Vultur3 True. But it was still a Terminator. Despite being reprogrammed to be John's protector, his killing initiative was never removed. He still felt the need to kill. In this case, it meant killing anyone it deemed a threat to John. In a way, John Connor had to "reprogram" the Terminator by teaching him empathy. Something the Terminator lacked.
@@snakeshadows6993 He's a machine, he doesn't have thoughts or feelings about his programming or his directives. John orders him not to kill, so he responds coldly with "He'll live." as regardless of any permanent damage he's done, he is in fact obeying his orders.
It's especially funny when you realise he's scanning each individual and estimating the degree of trauma required to disable without killing them. I was hoping in one of the later movies you'd get a nonlethal T800 gently wrapping his arm around someone's neck and waiting for them to pass out, because scans suggested the person had some kind of blood clotting issue, and they'd bleed out before they could possibly get medical attention if he shot them. Like imagine him shooting kneecap, kneecap, pistol whip to the head, then gently grabs an older security guard and carefully holds him in a choke until the old feller passes out, then gently lays him down in the recovery position, maybe check his pulse for good measure while whoever he's escorting looks at him like he's lost whatever was left of his mind. 😁
“Can I just shoot them in the leg” is actually a brilliant addition from Arnold. Arnold’s concerns were more to do with having his Terminator appear “soft” compared to the T-1000 but by having him still commit violence without killing is a masterful way of displaying that his Terminator is still a force the be reckoned with and should absolutely be feared.
More than anything it shows almost malicious compliance. Like “Wait, you _don’t_ want me to kill for your sake?!? This thing ain’t exactly built for planting daisies!” It’ll keep people safe, practically to the point of death, but it won’t kill ‘em! Almost like it’s mad that it can’t follow its programming of _kill people for a specific goal._ It shows how important it was for John to remove its restrictive programming, and teach it empathy. Without John, he wouldn’t have learned _why_ he can’t just kill people.
I was 11/12 when it was released and Robin Hood ( with K Costner) was also in the movies. All girls my age were swooning over Robin Hood. I went by myself to T2 cos none of my friends would go. It had a 15s rating in Ireland and the lady at the ticket desk said i was too young so I lied and said my Dad was waiting inside for me and let me in 😂 The next week one of my friends came back from holidays and i went to see it again. We’ve loved it since
You're absolutely right, it was hopeless to see how nobody could stop him in the first movie and in the second movie it felt hopeless how he wouldn't kill those guards
@@daffyduckling6958 It would taint John's character if this Terminator murders anyone for John. Future John is responsible for sending it and child John must take command of it.
@Ivantheterrible81280 "Any number of causes for which I am prepared to die, none for which I am prepared to kill." - Gandhi. "A robot may not injure a human being or, through inaction, allow a human being to come to harm." - Isaac Asimov (the first of the three laws of robotics). 😌
@@Mirokuofnite which eventually gave the govt the idea to create robotic limbs then from there created AI for robot police to replace humans then the cycle repeats, lol
@angelic_disappointment7889 Vicious cycle; Terminator shoots cop in legs. Robocop is born. Terminator shoots Robocop in legs. Ricochet strikes Terminator's nuclear energy battery. City blows up.
It's so much more though. It has everything. Comedy gold moments all the way to abject horror. Can you think of a more terrifying scene in cinema history than that nuke? More relevant than ever as we continue fucking with A.I..The dramatic acting was so far off the charts too. Everyone involved. Especially Hamilton and Furlong. The guy who played Miles Dyson also killed it
@@steveguse4481 I agree with every one of your points good sir. The film is masterpiece and a rare example of a perfect film. It is literally flawless. Shame it went so down hill after.....though despite the hate I do like that Salvation tried something different at least.
Salvation is probably the only “post-T2” Terminator movie that I actually think is SOMEWHAT DECENT. The rest of them can go in the garbage bin, though (my dad LOVES T2 and when we walked out of the screening for Terminator 3, I had NEVER SEEN HIM SO ANGERED by a MOVIE). But yea, T2 is EASILY probably one of the best action movie SEQUELS ever made.
What's funny is this ended up being such a good little moment. John told him not to kill anyone, not to not shoot anyone. Clearly a bit of a difference in those two as we saw. It also had the great effect of reinforcing he was a machine that didn't perceive things or think the same way as humans despite looking like one.
“He’ll live. Granted i just shot 2 point blank 45 caliber bowling balls through his legs and he’ll never walk again, but he’ll live to tell the story”. 😂
actually the premise is different since t3 had adult john and a love interest as well as the fact that arnold was a t-850 instead of the regular t-800 and the enemy was a tx instead of a t-1000
@@jordanbauer740 oh come on the T-850? That’s practically no change at all. It’s a name change simple as that he does nothing a regular T800 can’t do, it’s lazy writing making out it’s building more law when it is not. And the TX? She’s a rip off of both the T800 and T1000, just over designed over complicated nonsense. It’s a Piss poor sequel. And Arnold simply did it for the almighty dollar, even Cameron said ask for as much cash as they will give you
This is what made the movie great he still remained what he was "a Terminator" but it was only due to certain circumstances that he did not knock anybody off
What's brilliant about that is that it's exactly what a futuristic ai android would do. "I didn't say i wouldn't hurt them and I calculated their chances of survival" lol
Probably not if you miss the femoral artery. And he got shot dead center on the kneecaps. So, yeah, he’ll never run again, but, in Arnold’s words…he’ll live. 😂
@@dusannestorovic5699 There's just no way that's true. You're almost guaranteed to hit an internal organ with a centre mass shot, most of which will be fatal without medical attention. And if the shot enters above the bottom rib you're hitting lung, heart or liver, all of which are likely to be fatal even with medical attention. Meanwhile if you hit a leg, there's a larger chance that you won't hit any of the large arteries or veins. And even if you do hit one, some of them might clot on their own.
I think a lot of people overlook the brilliance of Cameron's decision to force the T-100 to not kill. The T-100 is a self-aware AI that is forced to integrate an aspect of human morality into its programming and that theme is repeated throughout the movie. The T-100's original plan is to take John directly to Mexico and hide. John forces it to go against its programming and to rescue his mom. The T-100 supports Sarah's decision to kill Dyson. John contradicts that. At the end of the movie, the T-100 has a tenuous grasp of human morality only because it has been forced to operate in ways that contradict it's primary function and machine logic. Thats why it's sacrifice death at the end is so tragic. This T-100 is the AI that humans had hoped to build, but it sacrifices itself in a bid to save humanity. That type of bittersweet moral conflict is why T2 is far far more than one of the greatest action movies ever filmed. Cameron frequently credits his mother with supporting his creativity. I truly believe that Cameron's movies are so good because he understands what it is to love and be loved. Just goes to show that there is nothing more special in this world than a loving mom...even if she is just a memory.
Terminator 1 was hardcore. It caused many problems at the time and was nearly outright banned. The studio only agreed to make a sequel if it wasnt hardcore like the first film. they had to sell out to get T2 made. If i remember right ..
I wouldn't call it selling out. Both movies are extremely hardcore, and Terminator 2 upped the ante a lot. The T-1000 was a brutal killing machine who flat out stabbed people in the face with his metal arms and hands while taking their place physically. And Arnold as the T-800 is still really hardcore, he takes those cops out pretty brutally without actually killing them, which is a nice contrast to the first one where he just brutally murders them all.
I don't think you're remembering right at all. T1 wasn't even close to being one of the most violent films from the late 70's to 80's. Movies like Alien, The Thing, Robocop, Predator, Hellraiser were all far more gruesome and violent, but you're telling me that T1 was the movie that was so hardcore that it almost didn't get a sequel unless the filmmakers agreed to certain conditions? Not buying it.
What's not mentioned here is the real reason Arnold was upset was because he and Sylvester Stallone were trying to outdo each other with higher and higher body counts with back-to-back movies at the time.
Terminator Salvation is the 3rd best entry in the series and T1, T2 and TS stand miles above Genesis and Dark Fate. TS is genuinely good. My only nit pick with it is the T-800 throwing John Conner about when it should have just picked him up and crushed his wind pipe. A single touch by the T-800 would be lethal.
"Whenever you do a sequel, you can't just do the same story" lol I guess James Cameron must have forgotten that little nugget of wisdom when he made Dark Fate
Clearly Jim didn't follow that opening advice when it came to the Avatar movies. The story of the sequel is superficially different, but fundamnentally it was more or less a slightly different version of the original with extra window dressing. This is why his Terminator movies are vastly superior to his Avatar movies.
I liked Alita better than Avatar, but I'm also partial to the manga and OVA like Cameron. He changed it a little, but not enough to drift away from the main concepts.
Not really. TWOW is a refugee family story and Jake isn't even the central character; Lo'ak is. The only thing that's fundamentally the same is that the RDA wants to control and plunder Pandora, no matter the cost, and features the same primary antagonist. Except, Quaritch is far more interesting this time around than the cartoonish security chief of A1; a massive improvement IMO.
Hey well - that scene was fucking badass anyways, actually sorta makes sense a robot would shoot the guard just to stop him without actually killing him, as robots would find the most practical, fastest way.
That's why T2 sucks for me as a story. If John conner is sooooo important to the human race, knee capping a bunch of cops is stupid. A true terminator would've killed them to prevent any errant shot hitting conner. Just cos you shot a cop in the knee won't stop him/her from returning fire. Plus you meant to tell me that the shrapnel from cars exploding didn't hit any of the cops??? I've never truly liked T2. T1 is the best, hands down. A ruthless take no prisoners terminator. ❤
Most braindead comment I've ever seen in a long time. Have you ever watched the movie? He has to obey Johns orders since it was him himself who sent the T-800 to the past. So yes, he would shoot them only in the foot if John asked that of him. Also, even if you ignore that the whole message with the T-800 in T2 is that it learns human emotions. These aren't your basic robots. They're smart and clearly capable of learning a lot. To listen to John's orders not only shows that, of course he's gonna listen to him because it's the guy in charge of the mission he's been sent on (John in the future) but two, the bond he does make with younger John. If you want only mindless shootout scenes go ahead and be my guest, but I and many others will enjoy the amazing writing and story that T2 brings to the table (I do still love the first one though, but T2 is EASILY the better film)
Seems like you missed the ENTIRE point of T2 and john conners role. and why sarah doesnt just outright murder miles bennet dyson. John conner, is the second comig. In the scene after they rescue sarah and they are trying to get away from the T1000 at the mental hospital, The police car the trio escapse in has the number 666 on the back license plate. This is symbolic. John conner, has the initials of jesus christ because he is the savior of humanity, and the movie asks the question what if the anti christ isnt some man. But Ai. and that the shared collective consciousness of skynet, is the purest embodiment of evil, because it has no soul and no conscience. So the stakes are higher in T2. And the T2 T800 is not a true terminator, hes an agent for the savior. And why does john teach the terminator about life? About how humans feel and hurtr? Because only the savior of humanity would view all of humanity as worhty of saving. Not just those who are good, or support him John represents a love for humanity, and he is the savior because he is the result of an immaculate conception where his father didnt truly exist. Inn that he was a time traveler. John is the savior, so his agent cant go around slaughtering the very species he is trying to preserve. I love T1. But T2 is just the second part. Its 1 movie. Not two.
At the end of the movie John cries and the terminator wipes his tear away saying he knows why they cry now but thats something he could never do. The fact he wiped johns tear away shows his understandings for human emotion and behavior progressed so much cause thats a human reaction to wipe someones tear away. The character tells him not to kill anyone so he just shoots the legs to obey john orders
Everybody has given their opinions and that's cool. But to me it's still lame. And if my opinion of T2 makes me "stupid" then oh well, I've been called worse
Thats why the arrival bar scene was was wanted to be removed because he acted as though he did sworn not to kill anyone at that moment when a normal terminator would have kill just about anyone in his path.
Ironically, Arnold's T-800 character hadnt killed anyone up to the point where John made him swear not to kill people. He only brawled with the bikers to acquire his weapons and transport.
Terminator 2 & Aliens. My favorite of all time, along side The thing. Cant stop watching them, best sequels and SF movies. Cameron and Stan Winston team are so talented. I wish i had the chance to see those in theater
You were gonna kill that guy! - Of course. I'm a Terminator.
You remind of that madtv skit when jesus yelled at the terminator for killing
Why?....
Omg i see you in every movie short video related to my favourites movies lol
@@mistlord I comment on all of these shorts 😆
@@thenamesloca I can see that, i am actually looking How James Cameron cast Arnold as the Terminator and there is another comment of yours lol "Thanks the gods it was Arnold and not O.J"
Lol.
See that's where Jaws 2, messed up. The shark needed to be the savior and just bite legs off and not kill anyone.
It's called "Bigger Jaws".
I need the scene where the shark comes up to a drowning kid and pushes him to the shore.
@@CERTAIND00MOh my god, we have a common enemy. We have to work together. 😂
Jaws 2: Jaws-er
@@INXS7144well done :D
This the iconic line “He’ll live” was born
I find the german version more iconic. There he says "He will survive." That's delivered so dry, that's funny.
Best line of the movie. 2nd. Best is the copter pilot when he steps up to the window with the minigun.
"THATS A GODDAMN MINIGUN!"
@mikebrooks5382
I think it’s just “damn,” but could be wrong, too lazy to look it up lol
@user-kz4ke8mg4r✌😎👍👍
@@MrZillas since Arnold speaks German, did he do his own dubbing?
James: "You can´t just kill people!"
Arnold: "Why?"
That's a good reference right there.
People die even if nothing else happens
@@george2113 You didn't get it…
@@ismaelvargas-osiris6108 one day I will breathe my last as will you
@@george2113Arnold: why???
Which is why he sounds bitter when he says “he'll live”
Probably because it is going against its core programming.
@@axel4196 It was programmed to follow John Connor, so if John tells him to not kill anyone, he must not do it.
😂 made me lol man
@@Th33Vultur3 True. But it was still a Terminator. Despite being reprogrammed to be John's protector, his killing initiative was never removed. He still felt the need to kill. In this case, it meant killing anyone it deemed a threat to John. In a way, John Connor had to "reprogram" the Terminator by teaching him empathy. Something the Terminator lacked.
@@snakeshadows6993 He's a machine, he doesn't have thoughts or feelings about his programming or his directives. John orders him not to kill, so he responds coldly with "He'll live." as regardless of any permanent damage he's done, he is in fact obeying his orders.
"Arnold you're a good guy now, a defender, you don't kill people now."
"Why."
“What do you mean why, you just can’t”
@@michaelpellizzari7143 why.
I am truly among my people here lmao😂
Internet's too much sometimes 😂🤣
Arnold is a phenomenal actor love all his action movies 🍿 ❤
"He wasn't his usual, cheerful self."
"Can I shoot them in the leg?"
Arnold wasn’t happy he couldn’t kill anyone but he was happy he could cause irreversible kneecap trauma 😭
Well it’s way better to have kneecap trauma than biting the dust
Its like batman logic. Doesnt kill anyone, doesnt mind giving them brain trauma requiring life long rehabilitation
T2 was the best sequel of all time.
I think you may be right. Off the top of my head, I can't think of a better sci fi sequel
@@timbaillie1861Aliens is a contender. Coincidentally by Cameron too.
I think it’s a toss up between T2, Aliens and the Godfather 2.
@@teeboz6237 Yes!
@teeboz6237 Good one! Amazing movies that are seldom watched by today's 20 second attention span brains
"he'll live" and "i swear i will not kill anyone" i loved those lines 😂😂😂😂😂😂
"I know now why you cry....."
The "He'll live" is easy top 5 best lines in T2.
It's a brilliant, standalone line in a movie utterly full of brilliant, standalone lines.
_"Here. Hold this."_
**pulls cop's gas mask off**
That's my favorite. 😂
@@NarwahlGaming I see no reason to stop now....."say, that's a nice bike."
Another favourite line the T1000 gets to the chopper via the bike and tells the chopper pilot.... Get out😂😂🎉🔥👍🏽
James Cameron: You don't wanna do this.
Arnold Schwarzenator: Desire is irrelevant. I am a machine.
Such an iconic part of the movie. I loved the fact that he was shooting people in the legs instead of killing them. It was hilarious.
It's especially funny when you realise he's scanning each individual and estimating the degree of trauma required to disable without killing them. I was hoping in one of the later movies you'd get a nonlethal T800 gently wrapping his arm around someone's neck and waiting for them to pass out, because scans suggested the person had some kind of blood clotting issue, and they'd bleed out before they could possibly get medical attention if he shot them. Like imagine him shooting kneecap, kneecap, pistol whip to the head, then gently grabs an older security guard and carefully holds him in a choke until the old feller passes out, then gently lays him down in the recovery position, maybe check his pulse for good measure while whoever he's escorting looks at him like he's lost whatever was left of his mind. 😁
Loved the scene when he literally walks through bullets and shoots everyone in the legs. So badass
@@Three_Days_Of_Solitude and the scene where he shoots them in the vests with tear gas cannisters
@@jkcrawlOr, _"Here. Hold this."_ and pulls the gas mask off the cop when he does. 😂
OG Robocop got him beat on this though, preferring to shoot the bad guys in the wang.
'Whenever you do a sequel, you can not just do the same story.' Something a lot of movie makers forget these days.
Including the Terminator franchise.
@@Sushi-Boy1ironically you’re right.
It makes more sense that a robot would interpret "no killing" literally. So maiming to the edge of death is a mission accomplished.
He's on that Batman grindset
“Can I just shoot them in the leg” is actually a brilliant addition from Arnold. Arnold’s concerns were more to do with having his Terminator appear “soft” compared to the T-1000 but by having him still commit violence without killing is a masterful way of displaying that his Terminator is still a force the be reckoned with and should absolutely be feared.
More than anything it shows almost malicious compliance. Like “Wait, you _don’t_ want me to kill for your sake?!? This thing ain’t exactly built for planting daisies!” It’ll keep people safe, practically to the point of death, but it won’t kill ‘em! Almost like it’s mad that it can’t follow its programming of _kill people for a specific goal._
It shows how important it was for John to remove its restrictive programming, and teach it empathy. Without John, he wouldn’t have learned _why_ he can’t just kill people.
Man, when I was a kid, I was _all about_ this movie. I've seen it a _lot,_ like a ridiculous number of times.
It was one of the only vhs tapes you could put in and the whole family would be mesmerized by it.
Me too!!!!
I was 11/12 when it was released and Robin Hood ( with K Costner) was also in the movies. All girls my age were swooning over Robin Hood. I went by myself to T2 cos none of my friends would go. It had a 15s rating in Ireland and the lady at the ticket desk said i was too young so I lied and
said my Dad was waiting inside for me and let me in 😂 The next week one of my friends came back from holidays and i went to see it again. We’ve loved it since
Join the club!
I thought I wrote this comment myself for a second there 🤣
Terminator: "You'd be surprised at what you can live through."
I don’t think the audience would have minded the T-800 killing the guards at the institution who would beat Sarah on a regular basis.
You're absolutely right, it was hopeless to see how nobody could stop him in the first movie and in the second movie it felt hopeless how he wouldn't kill those guards
That would go against the theme of the movie.
John Connor should have given him that request after the mental institution visit.
@@daffyduckling6958 It would taint John's character if this Terminator murders anyone for John. Future John is responsible for sending it and child John must take command of it.
@Ivantheterrible81280
"Any number of causes for which I am prepared to die, none for which I am prepared to kill."
- Gandhi.
"A robot may not injure a human being or, through inaction, allow a human being to come to harm."
- Isaac Asimov (the first of the three laws of robotics).
😌
Arnold didn't kill people in T2, but he sure did cripple a lot of people with a lot of his shots.
Yeah, I'm sure the Terminator bankrupted the city with all the police pensions being paid out.
@@Mirokuofnite which eventually gave the govt the idea to create robotic limbs then from there created AI for robot police to replace humans then the cycle repeats, lol
@@bernarddelossantos8083Robocop is born
@angelic_disappointment7889
Vicious cycle;
Terminator shoots cop in legs.
Robocop is born.
Terminator shoots Robocop in legs. Ricochet strikes Terminator's nuclear energy battery.
City blows up.
Fun fact: Arnold was so coked up during those movies he thought he was actually killing and maiming people
The best part is he looks straight at the camera when he says “ I swear I will not kill anyone” like he's telling the audience directly
Omfg I love this story so much…this is exactly why directors cuts and behind the scenes clips and interviews are true gems for movie fans!
arnie’s insatiable bloodlust led to a classic scene
🤣🤣as a kid I thought that was harsh, but he had to do it. Now it’s funny that Arnold was the one who requested it. Legendary.
The lighting and look at those night shots in T2 were crazy..such a unique moonlight style lighting ..pretty awesome
mercury vapor, was it?
😂😂 that made for a great moment. “He’ll live…” 😂😂😂
The greatest action movie ever made.
It's so much more though. It has everything. Comedy gold moments all the way to abject horror. Can you think of a more terrifying scene in cinema history than that nuke? More relevant than ever as we continue fucking with A.I..The dramatic acting was so far off the charts too. Everyone involved. Especially Hamilton and Furlong. The guy who played Miles Dyson also killed it
@@steveguse4481 I agree with every one of your points good sir. The film is masterpiece and a rare example of a perfect film. It is literally flawless. Shame it went so down hill after.....though despite the hate I do like that Salvation tried something different at least.
@@MovieGroove Honestly I checked out at T3 the moment they put a T800 in a strip club
Salvation is probably the only “post-T2” Terminator movie that I actually think is SOMEWHAT DECENT.
The rest of them can go in the garbage bin, though (my dad LOVES T2 and when we walked out of the screening for Terminator 3, I had NEVER SEEN HIM SO ANGERED by a MOVIE).
But yea, T2 is EASILY probably one of the best action movie SEQUELS ever made.
“He’ll live” is now one of the most iconic lines and movie history
What's funny is this ended up being such a good little moment. John told him not to kill anyone, not to not shoot anyone. Clearly a bit of a difference in those two as we saw. It also had the great effect of reinforcing he was a machine that didn't perceive things or think the same way as humans despite looking like one.
“He’ll live. Granted i just shot 2 point blank 45 caliber bowling balls through his legs and he’ll never walk again, but he’ll live to tell the story”. 😂
I never get tired to watch T2!
One of my favorite movies since i was a kid
Arnold says “you can’t just make the same movie for a sequel” and then goes on to rehash everything in T3 and T4
And T5 AND T6
He wasn't at T4
💵 💵
actually the premise is different since t3 had adult john and a love interest as well as the fact that arnold was a t-850 instead of the regular t-800 and the enemy was a tx instead of a t-1000
@@jordanbauer740 oh come on the T-850? That’s practically no change at all. It’s a name change simple as that he does nothing a regular T800 can’t do, it’s lazy writing making out it’s building more law when it is not. And the TX? She’s a rip off of both the T800 and T1000, just over designed over complicated nonsense. It’s a Piss poor sequel. And Arnold simply did it for the almighty dollar, even Cameron said ask for as much cash as they will give you
He wanted to be a bad guy in the movie 😅😅😅
I like how the two always have their own version of why something came to be.
He'll live
Why?.....
…hopefully.
Not if he hit a femoral artery.
This is what made the movie great he still remained what he was "a Terminator" but it was only due to certain circumstances that he did not knock anybody off
my son was 9 years old when this movie came out .Still to this day it is his all time favorite
Jim kinda looks like Arnold when he says "Jim, I don't kill anybody"
"I said I wouldn't kill anyone. I never said anything about inducing severe physical and psychological trauma"
He'll live is maybe the funniest line in the movie
Shots to the leg can easily be fatal...
Terminators are precision shooters.
He has detailed files on human anatomy.
He’ll live
@@dierdrecole8027 Makes him a more efficient killer, right?
He knows where to target in order to not hit the femoral artery or the bone.
This just makes me appreciate even more the bloodbath in terminator 1!
T2 was a perfect movie. Well done, gentleman.
Arnold was ready to get into character.
The sadness behind "he'll live" is evident
A liquid metal tear rolling down behind the black shades.
But he still didn't kill anyone even before he promised John. If it was the T1 he'd kill someone at the bar when they put out their cigar on him.
What's brilliant about that is that it's exactly what a futuristic ai android would do. "I didn't say i wouldn't hurt them and I calculated their chances of survival" lol
"screw your Freedoms - Arnold
Leg shots can be fatal 😂😂😂
Probably not if you miss the femoral artery. And he got shot dead center on the kneecaps. So, yeah, he’ll never run again, but, in Arnold’s words…he’ll live. 😂
He’s a calculated machine so he knows exactly where to place the rounds in the leg to ensure survival 🤷🏽♂️
He'll live
leg shots are even more dangerous than center mass
but I guess a killer robot can calculate the shot to be as safe as possible
@@dusannestorovic5699 There's just no way that's true. You're almost guaranteed to hit an internal organ with a centre mass shot, most of which will be fatal without medical attention. And if the shot enters above the bottom rib you're hitting lung, heart or liver, all of which are likely to be fatal even with medical attention.
Meanwhile if you hit a leg, there's a larger chance that you won't hit any of the large arteries or veins. And even if you do hit one, some of them might clot on their own.
I don't blame Arnold. After all, the character is called TERMINATOR. He's SUPPOSED to kill!
T2 is movie magic.
I think a lot of people overlook the brilliance of Cameron's decision to force the T-100 to not kill. The T-100 is a self-aware AI that is forced to integrate an aspect of human morality into its programming and that theme is repeated throughout the movie. The T-100's original plan is to take John directly to Mexico and hide. John forces it to go against its programming and to rescue his mom. The T-100 supports Sarah's decision to kill Dyson. John contradicts that. At the end of the movie, the T-100 has a tenuous grasp of human morality only because it has been forced to operate in ways that contradict it's primary function and machine logic. Thats why it's sacrifice death at the end is so tragic. This T-100 is the AI that humans had hoped to build, but it sacrifices itself in a bid to save humanity. That type of bittersweet moral conflict is why T2 is far far more than one of the greatest action movies ever filmed. Cameron frequently credits his mother with supporting his creativity. I truly believe that Cameron's movies are so good because he understands what it is to love and be loved.
Just goes to show that there is nothing more special in this world than a loving mom...even if she is just a memory.
It's a T800, a T100 would probably be the phone you are holding right now if Cybedyne was into making smarthones.
James Cameron is a legend his range is just insane I mean this guy Made Titanic
Terminator 1 was hardcore. It caused many problems at the time and was nearly outright banned.
The studio only agreed to make a sequel if it wasnt hardcore like the first film. they had to sell out to get T2 made.
If i remember right ..
I wouldn't call it selling out. Both movies are extremely hardcore, and Terminator 2 upped the ante a lot. The T-1000 was a brutal killing machine who flat out stabbed people in the face with his metal arms and hands while taking their place physically. And Arnold as the T-800 is still really hardcore, he takes those cops out pretty brutally without actually killing them, which is a nice contrast to the first one where he just brutally murders them all.
I don't think you're remembering right at all. T1 wasn't even close to being one of the most violent films from the late 70's to 80's. Movies like Alien, The Thing, Robocop, Predator, Hellraiser were all far more gruesome and violent, but you're telling me that T1 was the movie that was so hardcore that it almost didn't get a sequel unless the filmmakers agreed to certain conditions? Not buying it.
@@windowsVD Good argument.
Ever since I was a child Arnold has been my favorite actor I'm 54 now I still love the guy there's nobody like Arnold 👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍❤️
Hahahah this is funny 😂 Arnold is a legend
"Screw your freedom"
@@yourmum69_420Do you guys have meetings or something? FFS, enough of these boring comments.
T2 is one of the greatest sequels ever made.
*The Greatest
Terminator 1 was a horror movie scared the Sh out of me when I was a kid
I’ll be back
All in one
A bee with that thing you get when a mosquito bites you
Cameron threw Arnie a bone😅😂😅😂
alright one leg
He shoots 2 legs😂😅
Is this a reference to the fact he knee capped him in the right leg and the next shot he was holding his left leg?
Minigun scene.
@@keithlarcombe4694 It's interesting you say that because in the UK VHS release it was edited down to make it look like he was only shot once.
What's not mentioned here is the real reason Arnold was upset was because he and Sylvester Stallone were trying to outdo each other with higher and higher body counts with back-to-back movies at the time.
the kneecapping was just as good to be honest
I loved the MAD magazine parody.
"You can't just go around killing people!"
"Why not? Isn't this LA?"
Arnold: hates making movies with the same story
Also Arnold: is in every Terminator sequel with the same story everytime.
That kinda proves him right though. T2 is the only good Terminator sequel because it doesn't try to just do what the previous films did.
2 was good and a bit different direction from the first. The ones after he is right.
Arnold likes making money slightly more.
Terminator Salvation is the 3rd best entry in the series and T1, T2 and TS stand miles above Genesis and Dark Fate. TS is genuinely good.
My only nit pick with it is the T-800 throwing John Conner about when it should have just picked him up and crushed his wind pipe.
A single touch by the T-800 would be lethal.
The Terminator went down hill after he became the Good guy ..
To me personally, something was always off about T2, something that I just didn’t like about it and this finally answers that for me.
Eddie Furlong ruined a perfect movie
Oh poor baby. Didn't see any killing even though it's the best sequal in cinematic history
He swore in the trailer that he wouldn’t kill anyone.
@@Snyper1405And the T-1000 killed a fuck ton of people, and in gruesome ways too, so idk wtf that guy is talking about lol
Best line.”He‘ll Live” laugh every time
T2 and The Matrix are the two best action films of all time. Almost perfect.
Yup, good choices. Maybe add Mad Max: Fury Road to make it a top 3?
"Whenever you do a sequel, you can't just do the same story" lol I guess James Cameron must have forgotten that little nugget of wisdom when he made Dark Fate
T2 was good. But T1 was brutal.
Thoose 2 movies are pure gold , but please james please make the war of the future
Clearly Jim didn't follow that opening advice when it came to the Avatar movies. The story of the sequel is superficially different, but fundamnentally it was more or less a slightly different version of the original with extra window dressing. This is why his Terminator movies are vastly superior to his Avatar movies.
I liked Alita better than Avatar, but I'm also partial to the manga and OVA like Cameron. He changed it a little, but not enough to drift away from the main concepts.
Not really. TWOW is a refugee family story and Jake isn't even the central character; Lo'ak is. The only thing that's fundamentally the same is that the RDA wants to control and plunder Pandora, no matter the cost, and features the same primary antagonist. Except, Quaritch is far more interesting this time around than the cartoonish security chief of A1; a massive improvement IMO.
That'd actually a great idea. You get terminator kicking ass but showing mercy at the same time. Great solution.
Hey well - that scene was fucking badass anyways, actually sorta makes sense a robot would shoot the guard just to stop him without actually killing him, as robots would find the most practical, fastest way.
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It's odd because he didn't even want to be a villain in T1. This is why actors aren't directors or writers. At least early on in their careers.
Arnold is the best, absolutely love his movies
"Screw your freedom!" ----Arnold, circa 2020.
Good God you people need to shut up
Stay mad beta
people who didn't see this in theater have no idea how big of a deal this was that summer
It was everything. The ultimate movie, just perfect and high end cutting edge technology at that point.
That's why T2 sucks for me as a story. If John conner is sooooo important to the human race, knee capping a bunch of cops is stupid. A true terminator would've killed them to prevent any errant shot hitting conner. Just cos you shot a cop in the knee won't stop him/her from returning fire. Plus you meant to tell me that the shrapnel from cars exploding didn't hit any of the cops??? I've never truly liked T2. T1 is the best, hands down. A ruthless take no prisoners terminator. ❤
Most braindead comment I've ever seen in a long time. Have you ever watched the movie? He has to obey Johns orders since it was him himself who sent the T-800 to the past. So yes, he would shoot them only in the foot if John asked that of him. Also, even if you ignore that the whole message with the T-800 in T2 is that it learns human emotions. These aren't your basic robots. They're smart and clearly capable of learning a lot. To listen to John's orders not only shows that, of course he's gonna listen to him because it's the guy in charge of the mission he's been sent on (John in the future) but two, the bond he does make with younger John. If you want only mindless shootout scenes go ahead and be my guest, but I and many others will enjoy the amazing writing and story that T2 brings to the table (I do still love the first one though, but T2 is EASILY the better film)
Seems like you missed the ENTIRE point of T2 and john conners role. and why sarah doesnt just outright murder miles bennet dyson.
John conner, is the second comig. In the scene after they rescue sarah and they are trying to get away from the T1000 at the mental hospital,
The police car the trio escapse in has the number 666 on the back license plate.
This is symbolic. John conner, has the initials of jesus christ because he is the savior of humanity, and the movie asks the question what if the anti christ isnt some man. But Ai. and that the shared collective consciousness of skynet, is the purest embodiment of evil, because it has no soul and no conscience.
So the stakes are higher in T2.
And the T2 T800 is not a true terminator, hes an agent for the savior.
And why does john teach the terminator about life? About how humans feel and hurtr?
Because only the savior of humanity would view all of humanity as worhty of saving. Not just those who are good, or support him
John represents a love for humanity, and he is the savior because he is the result of an immaculate conception where his father didnt truly exist. Inn that he was a time traveler.
John is the savior, so his agent cant go around slaughtering the very species he is trying to preserve.
I love T1. But T2 is just the second part. Its 1 movie. Not two.
At the end of the movie John cries and the terminator wipes his tear away saying he knows why they cry now but thats something he could never do. The fact he wiped johns tear away shows his understandings for human emotion and behavior progressed so much cause thats a human reaction to wipe someones tear away. The character tells him not to kill anyone so he just shoots the legs to obey john orders
Everybody has given their opinions and that's cool. But to me it's still lame. And if my opinion of T2 makes me "stupid" then oh well, I've been called worse
worst take ever
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Arnold really got into his role before the cameras even came out :D
The leg shots were great lmao
Kneecapping Terminator. Must be an older model.
James Cameron used rear projectors for T2 that is one reason why it looks amazing still to this day
"He'll live"
Femoral artery: Nah, I'd win
Arnold was in the 3 greatest science fiction moviesbof all time:
Terminator
Predator &
T2
Plus Total Recall ❤😊
my man chose violence
One of my favorite action movie heroes of All time
The art of compromise 😂😂
"Whenever you do a sequel you cannot just do the same story, Jim I don't kill anybody." (like in the first movie.) 😂
“He’ll live” 🗿💀
Thats why the arrival bar scene was was wanted to be removed because he acted as though he did sworn not to kill anyone at that moment when a normal terminator would have kill just about anyone in his path.
Ironically, Arnold's T-800 character hadnt killed anyone up to the point where John made him swear not to kill people. He only brawled with the bikers to acquire his weapons and transport.
And that's how great lines are made.
Of course one of the funniest parts of the movie was Arnold's idea. His line "He'll live" always made me laugh
Terminator 2 & Aliens. My favorite of all time, along side The thing.
Cant stop watching them, best sequels and SF movies. Cameron and Stan Winston team are so talented. I wish i had the chance to see those in theater
That was the best line of that movie. I loved it.
Morgan Freeman voice as narrator. "The man shot in the leg was hit in the femoral artery. He did not live."
That "you son of a bitch" after he said "he'll live" 😂
James: “You’re not killing people in this one.”
Arnold: 😠
James: “You get to leave leg wounds.”
Arnold: 😁
So he basically reacted in real life as the terminator...