was wondering if you can please help me... I dropped my WD 4TB and now I have trouble opening the files, all the files are there but the videos/movies won't play, is there no hope for the drive? is it cheaper if I just buy another one? plz help
Better yet, hook the drive up through USB and use Crystal Disk Info software to get model number before going through hassle of trying to shuck drive. Return as necessary.
A few years behind the release of the video…. I never knew the kids had a hip, slick, and cool word to describe my frugality. In 2022 I found 4TB WD My Passport disks for $39 each at Target. I suspect it was a mislabel situation but when checking out they scanned as $59 I was pretty excited. I “shucked” the cases and added them to my Unraid array. I bought the only 4 on the shelf.
Also remember to keep the sata to USB adapter circuit. I've used one to hook up bare drives and even dvd drives to laptops as a sort of SAta to USB adapter
I have 4 of these 8tb drives and I only got a single Red drive from them. My usual process is that I pre-clear the drive first to make sure the drive is ok. I then carefully remove from the enclosure and I store the enclosure in the original box which has the serial on it and so if I do have an issue I can pop the drive back into the enclosure and return it under warranty. I have mainly done this with 4td drives over the last few years as they were the sweet spot. As 8tb drive prices drop I moved to those :) .
Have a friend that worked at Western Digital and he told me those hard in the unit like yours are likely a 2nd grade level drive. This means that the drive is not close enough to spec to be considered a first drive.
It's my understanding that when a hard drive fails QA for various reasons, it gets sent back in the line for re-manufacture and gets tossed into one of these enclosures. This is why the warranty is usually shorter than a bare drive and they can be random on the inside for the style of drive you get.
Glad to see you made this, I mentioned I did the same thing on Twitter with Seagate 8tb Externals. I use FreeNas still and with ZFS with 5 drives and a 10G network, I get an average transfer of 500M. I wouldn't rely on these compared to NAS drives, but for cheap storage for a media center, great choice.
This drive was a Black Friday special. As you mentioned in your edit it is still a "Red" drive but is based off of the HGST He10 drive from what I could find. The only issue with them is that if your connectors power the 3.3V pin it won't turn on as HGST uses that to force the "reboot" of a drive. It is stupid but that's the way it is.
I got mines for $130 each during the black Friday best buy sale. But the real sweetspot is the fact I got all three drives manufactured in Thailand which gave me 256mb cache on each drive. I've been shucking drives for years, I think bare hard drive cost so much is because it's expense to fix on a mass scale, when you shuck the hard drive it voids the warranty thus they won't have to spend money honoring the warranty, so they pass the savings onto you. I've also use my local stop and shop promotional sale to buy Best Buy Giftcards so I save additional $120 net expense. That can buy a lot of potato chips.
Kind of reminds me of some stories of bogus returns that made the news a few years ago. Some one had bought a PS4 from Target I think it was and when they opened up the box all it had inside was a bunch of rocks. Some one had taking out the system and returned it with rocks to weigh the box down and the store clerks never inspected the item and later restocked it. Funny enough you could probably do the same with a shucked drive, just throw in some garbage cards for weight and look and keep the HD. I doubt most clerks could tell the difference from a HD from the guts of a toaster.
+xplus93 That reminds me of a time when Sega Dreamcast was having disc reading problems left and right. Somebody I know bought a new Dreamcast, and swapped the disk drives then returned the new Dreamcast with the bad part a day later and told them it was faulty and got cash back. Technically, he salvaged the new Dreamcast for spare parts and returned the new one back which had the manufacture number and everything so when the store clerk took it out to examine it, there was no indication that anything was swapped out. The store could return the system to the manufacture and get another one or a refund.
It's not really that. People aren't buying "bare" drives on the consumer market. Years ago when there were the floods in Thailand harddrive prices increased by huge amounts. The price of drives went up as the supply went down, but when the supply went back up it was realized that the market can handle much higher prices. There is however much more demand on the consumer space for high capacity external drives, hence the more aggressive pricing. They're still warrantied like their bare drive counterparts. Then again, I would never RMA a hard drive myself, so it doesn't matter to me.
Oh my. I use an old 2006 Mac Mini as a home server, and it has been doing great, as long as I restart it at least roughly once every 6 months, and it has 2 4TB "My Book" drives (same cases as the current "easystore" drives)
Bestbuy recently had a sale on these drives, which I purchased 20 of them (lots of store visits and online purchases). All of them were White labeled as of 2/5/2018. I installed them in my FreeNAS server and they work fine...
The real problem is actually where the screw mounts are located. The sides are fine and you can put rails on them. However, if you try to mount it on the bottom, the screw hole spacing is not standardized like other drives.
I bought 4 of these hard drive last Black Friday and just got 1 of them is the Red one, all the other drives are White label. The same as the one you unboxed in this video. However, all of them work great in my Synology Nas.
A few years ago, I bought four 4TB externals for cheap, around the same price ($119 each I think). A couple months after that, I sold the enclosures on ebay for $25 each.
Like one guy said, test the enclosed drive with CrystalMark, HDD software and it will tell you the specifications and model. If it is the model you want carefully open the enclosure and save it for another HDD you want to power it with.
OH AND YOU NEED 4 of them, just put them in where the tabs are (slide the pick back and fourth till you hear a slight click) and then once all four are done, slide the enclosure off.
One thing yu need to know, Best Buy is notorious to offer refurbish hard drives and external HD. That's why they are sometime cheaper. So please keep that in mind !
I remember when became cost affective. It was around 2012. I used to build my own external drives to save money and one day I realized it was cheaper just to buy a pre-made external drives.
Where I live, I'd need to do the exact opposite.. Internal HDDs are much, MUCH cheaper than external ones. Like for comparison a 1TB internal SATAIII SeaGate HDD costs ~53EUR. (on of the cheapest internal drives available). The absolutely cheapest external 1TB drive is a factory-refurbished B-stock Toshiba with a price of ~63EUR. At 4TB the difference is between 129EUR and 149EUR, with the internal being cheaper again. At 5TB the difference is 169EUR vs 209EUR with again the internal being cheaper. I couldn't find anything larger than 5TB at that particular store.
I was buying HD’s for my qnap yesterday at Fry’s. They were out of the WD red in 4TB size, but the salesman showed me an “HGST” NAS drive MADE by WD. Yeah, buddy! I think these might be what you have. 7200 w/64 cache for $99! I bought 2 and have my server up and almost configured.
I can confirm that I recently shucked a slightly older WD external drive that was actually one of their NAS units in the 4TB size and inside it was a WD Red drive.
I just did this to an older 500G WD External "my book" - the power cord STB - tried another power cable, it was fine, so I figured, "what they hey, let me shuck this". turned out "green". Any idea what this is as opposed to white or red ??? Thanks for the informative and attention-keeping video ! Great job !
let me guess you brought this during the black friday sale, they always have a black friday sale on those, i got two 14tb drive i will be getting 6 of them this year for next black friday sale which will be 16tb or 18tb
I've got a Western Digital Mycloud and its grate to go with a Rasbery Pi media player. Also supports USB drives it you ever need more storage. I'm shore servers are better for demanding users, but for your average consumer I think there over kill.
I used to do this with the WD passport drives to get 2.5" drives. WD got smart after all the TH-cam posts like yours saying to do it and they started to solder on a small connector so people couldn't use the drives in the future. So be forewarned WD DOES pay attention...
Nope. They made that change to save money. 2.5" drives are far more popular than 3.5" and run on very little power, and it makes financial sense to produce the 2.5" USB interface model. 3.5" doesn't make sense to do the same because of the lower volume of sales and the requirement of external power. Cheaper to just use a commercially available USB to SATA adapter.
#1 Reason to Shuck a WD external drive, their stupid controller. I had one of these years ago (Like 1TB, maybe less age years ago) & after a few months the enclosure stopped working. I moved the drive & it worked fine but couldn't be used. I got another & tried using it but it didn't work either. I contacted WD & they said there's a hardware encryption unique to each individual controller so I could get a replacement controller but it would require me to reformat the drive. They said this was a security feature, which is stupid because anyone hooking up the drive through the controller can access all the data on it, any encryption to prevent that has to be user provided, & anyone trying to steal your data would either just steal the whole thing (it's not like it has any kind of mounting lock or anything). If you want to use the enclosure remove the drive, format it directly, then reconnect it. In my experience that makes it movable on 3 of the 4 controllers I had.
ofc they are cheaper if they are not the same thing ... what i meant by this is that the wd reds have a better lifespan + theyr speed is verry good .. and there are even cheaper variants of wd like blue or wd green(caviar) but idk if you can find those in the 8 tb version ..
The reason for the price differences is the type of platters and how fast the drives move. Most internal drives for PC's run at 7200 RPM's or greater. These drives run at 5400 RPM's. That is much slower. The type of platters for these are usually SMR. This type of drive is slower by almost 50 percent of standard desktop disks. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shingled_magnetic_recording explains that "shingled recording writes new tracks that overlap part of the previously written magnetic track". This is what causes the slowness of these drives. Do a speed test on the disks with no caching during your test and you will see the speed difference. If you have no concern for retrieval speeds or you will not be writing real time video to to these disk all is fine. You can not compare how good a deal these are as if this is an apples to apples comparison. You are getting more disk at the cost of a much slower speed.
Philip Hempel maybe watch the video first before talking about 5400 vs 7200 rpm. He said WD Reds, this guy knows its 5400. Not every 5400rpm drives are equal. WD Reds sells for $280 usually, he got a deal for half the price. Maybe BestBuy wanted to clear some stock overage, but you should know if you watch the damned video. I don't use 7200rpms for passive storage. In a home server a 7200rpm drive is going to generate a lot of heat, especially if you fit a bunch of them in RAIDs inside small enclosures. Not everybody needs a WD Black, and before you mention servers, those SAS drives goes to 15K alright, but they got cooling the sound of jet engine, so deal with it
Philip Hempel let me correct you, ‘You are getting more disk at the cost of much less cost’, which is the point of this video. The point was never to get uber high performance drives.
TechTaste I was thinking the same... It's not exactly honest (legally it's fraud) to rip something to pieces, then reassemble and return it for a refund. I can't believe people actually think it's OK to do that.
NO them keeping the prices high are what is crazy ! And that if you open the case you ruin the warranty ! I've had many USB drive with broken case electronics, where I could just swap the case and SAVE MY DATA !!! In 2009 Seagate had 2TB hard drive so the 1st 4TB should have been in 2011. 8TB in 2013, 16TB in 2015, 32TB in 2017, 64TB in 2019 ! And Seagate said they would sell 100TB drives in 2012, then 2018, now maybe 2022. But the military can store 1,000,000TB PER DAY for EACH DRONE, according to a military contractor in "Spies in the Sky" on PBS. So how could someone make a 1,000,000TB PER DAR, PER DRONE storage ? A MILLION 1TB a day RAID or 100,000TB per day 10TB drive. With a SMALL ARMY of workers constantly adding hard drives 24HRs a day. Or they already have 100TB , 1000TB and much denser storage. Like the 300TB disc, This Glass Disc Can Store 360 TB of Your Photos for 13.8 Billion Years. That was from 2013, so why don't we have them by now or at least 100TB discs ? Technology is being HELD BACK !!!! CPU at 3GHz in 2001, in 2018 about 4GHz ! It should be about 800GHz by now ! And Intel in2001 , Motorola in 2009, and DARPA in about 2009 have all announced 1TERAHERTZ ,1000GHz chips years ago ! So why isn't 1THz chips for sale ? Or 100TB or MORE discs ? And DVD for sale can only store about 4.5TB 9 if you can find dual layer ! But they could do 300TB in 2013 !!! What is going on ?
I WAS INTENDED TO LAUGH AT YOU BUT......ANYWAY!!!TECHNOLOGY IS HELD BACK BY RUTHLESS PEOPLE BECAUSE IN THE NOT DISTANT FUTURE HUMANITY WILL BE EXTERMINATED BY THEM WHEN IT TRIES TO OVERCOME THEM...NUFF SAID!!! (I WANT MY LIFE FOR NOW)....SO PLEASE CALM DOWN AND W A K E U P !!! (DON'T BE THEIR VICTIM)
where to start? Byte my bits is hilarious; the video was super informative, and editing Jason is funny as hell. Not proud, but this made bong water get sprayed all over the place in a fit of laughter when the dastardly doodle happened. Great stuff, and thanks for being informative and hilarious!
i liked the video too, and it was edited well, but to be honest, the editing done in this video could be done by someone as young as 11 years old, given they were told "this is how you trim, and this is how you cut" it's not like there is anything, editing wise, that would be considered difficult to edit in this video...
the $129 sale is clearly white label. I bought 12 of NSBB version over BF and paid $140 for 2 of them and $150 for 10 of those. I actually made purchased of 16, and kept 12 of those since 12 is the max HDD my desktop can fit. I ended up having 1 white label (thailand 256MB) and it is literary identical as the red one except for the style of serial number and the color of the label. Actually the reddit and slickdeals had list of serial # who are possibly be the white label, so defenitely should read that before open it.
i used to have one of these older model wd books and the enclosures suck. it fried on me so i took the drive out and put it in a dock and it works perfectly fine now. wd sucks.
Post the serial number on the external case or something. As I'm sure there is a way for WD to tell which is the cheap and which is the more expensive drive and onsell them cheaper in "sales"
i use the wd my book external hard drive fine in its original but when I shuck it out and install in my pc, it doesnt recognize the hard drive. Do u have to do anything before installing to the pc?
Hello, sorry to bother you with this, but you look like a real expert regarding usb HDs. Happens that I have a WD My Book 6TB and now is not working anymore. For some reason windows does not recognize the drive. I wen to every support page they have and several troubleshooting and nothing worked. Could you give some advice please? Regards from Lima, Perú
even with the fact you broke the That External Enclosure I Would've Loved to Have Had It without the Hard Drive! I Reuse Those External in Closures for Several Things That I Do Where I Work with A Lot of Older Used PC Equipment. They Make a Good Hard Drive Reformatting Tool As an Example. They Seem to Last Longer Than the Proper External Hard Drive Multitool Unit That I by. In Short They Are Good for We Formatting Hard Drives Externally When You Happen to Get a Used Computer That Probably Has Some Viruses on the Hard Drive It's Merely a Matter of Taking the Hard Drive of Using the USB Port External Device to Plug the Hard Drive into Another Machine and Reformat the Drive Then Put It Back into the Initial Machine You Took It out of and Reinstall Windows.
i got one like that one it was a white lable red and i got the other model 4tb one of them came with a 4tb red then bought 2 more and they were 4tb blues got one more ive not shucked yet so i ll let u know what it is
Does this thing has like fans? The non destroyed. Because i need cheap storage without a server, just to have it runned 24/7 connected to my Nvidia shield
How do you use this drive. I took a MyBook apart and tried to format the drive for use in a usb enclosure and the 3tb drive only yielded 2tb. Couldn't get the rest of the drive to do anything. Like it was locked
How come you never mention the molex to SATA power cable are taping the third power pin on hardrive to make them work when most the White hard drives won’t just plug n play way for most people
Confusion, whats the diffrence between the green and red drive? If they both hold the same amount of data arnt they the same? Or is just performance based? Edit: i searched online and found nothing, basically they are saying its identical except for price. So whats the big deal?
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**Link to the screwdriver set I used (or at least the blue version of it)**
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Thanks for the video, If you want another hard drive.
www.bestbuy.com/site/wd-easystore-8tb-external-usb-3-0-hard-drive-black/5792401.p?skuId=5792401
Same here...lol... Thanks for the link!!
was wondering if you can please help me... I dropped my WD 4TB and now I have trouble opening the files, all the files are there
but the videos/movies won't play, is there no hope for the drive? is it cheaper if I just buy another one? plz help
Do you know if there is a link to the full set of tools & the the stand? Looks like a great set
David Norman YES! I want it too!
Better yet, hook the drive up through USB and use Crystal Disk Info software to get model number before going through hassle of trying to shuck drive. Return as necessary.
Nice Program.
Sorry what would be the purpose of this
some people only want the red drives
Where those the program tell you the information you need?
A few years behind the release of the video…. I never knew the kids had a hip, slick, and cool word to describe my frugality.
In 2022 I found 4TB WD My Passport disks for $39 each at Target. I suspect it was a mislabel situation but when checking out they scanned as $59 I was pretty excited. I “shucked” the cases and added them to my Unraid array. I bought the only 4 on the shelf.
Also remember to keep the sata to USB adapter circuit. I've used one to hook up bare drives and even dvd drives to laptops as a sort of SAta to USB adapter
I have 4 of these 8tb drives and I only got a single Red drive from them. My usual process is that I pre-clear the drive first to make sure the drive is ok. I then carefully remove from the enclosure and I store the enclosure in the original box which has the serial on it and so if I do have an issue I can pop the drive back into the enclosure and return it under warranty. I have mainly done this with 4td drives over the last few years as they were the sweet spot. As 8tb drive prices drop I moved to those :) .
it is the label color for WD NAS spec drives, so drives made for servers.
"addicted to terabytes" I'm going to use that as my own.
David Downs make a good slogan for a shirt
I do this all the time. I’ve been doing this for years.
Have a friend that worked at Western Digital and he told me those hard in the unit like yours are likely a 2nd grade level drive. This means that the drive is not close enough to spec to be considered a first drive.
It's my understanding that when a hard drive fails QA for various reasons, it gets sent back in the line for re-manufacture and gets tossed into one of these enclosures. This is why the warranty is usually shorter than a bare drive and they can be random on the inside for the style of drive you get.
Glad to see you made this, I mentioned I did the same thing on Twitter with Seagate 8tb Externals. I use FreeNas still and with ZFS with 5 drives and a 10G network, I get an average transfer of 500M. I wouldn't rely on these compared to NAS drives, but for cheap storage for a media center, great choice.
This drive was a Black Friday special. As you mentioned in your edit it is still a "Red" drive but is based off of the HGST He10 drive from what I could find. The only issue with them is that if your connectors power the 3.3V pin it won't turn on as HGST uses that to force the "reboot" of a drive. It is stupid but that's the way it is.
Can you elaborate please?
impressive screwdriver set
agreed what is the make and brand of your tools
Agreed also interested in screwdriver set
Commenting just so I can see later.
I have the same set. Got them for $20 at tractor supply of all places.
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like for the drawing
I got mines for $130 each during the black Friday best buy sale. But the real sweetspot is the fact I got all three drives manufactured in Thailand which gave me 256mb cache on each drive. I've been shucking drives for years, I think bare hard drive cost so much is because it's expense to fix on a mass scale, when you shuck the hard drive it voids the warranty thus they won't have to spend money honoring the warranty, so they pass the savings onto you.
I've also use my local stop and shop promotional sale to buy Best Buy Giftcards so I save additional $120 net expense. That can buy a lot of potato chips.
Kind of reminds me of some stories of bogus returns that made the news a few years ago. Some one had bought a PS4 from Target I think it was and when they opened up the box all it had inside was a bunch of rocks. Some one had taking out the system and returned it with rocks to weigh the box down and the store clerks never inspected the item and later restocked it. Funny enough you could probably do the same with a shucked drive, just throw in some garbage cards for weight and look and keep the HD. I doubt most clerks could tell the difference from a HD from the guts of a toaster.
+xplus93 That reminds me of a time when Sega Dreamcast was having disc reading problems left and right. Somebody I know bought a new Dreamcast, and swapped the disk drives then returned the new Dreamcast with the bad part a day later and told them it was faulty and got cash back. Technically, he salvaged the new Dreamcast for spare parts and returned the new one back which had the manufacture number and everything so when the store clerk took it out to examine it, there was no indication that anything was swapped out. The store could return the system to the manufacture and get another one or a refund.
"I got mines ..." mines? What sorcery is this...? Vietnamese Ebonics?
It's not really that. People aren't buying "bare" drives on the consumer market. Years ago when there were the floods in Thailand harddrive prices increased by huge amounts. The price of drives went up as the supply went down, but when the supply went back up it was realized that the market can handle much higher prices. There is however much more demand on the consumer space for high capacity external drives, hence the more aggressive pricing. They're still warrantied like their bare drive counterparts. Then again, I would never RMA a hard drive myself, so it doesn't matter to me.
Oh my. I use an old 2006 Mac Mini as a home server, and it has been doing great, as long as I restart it at least roughly once every 6 months, and it has 2 4TB "My Book" drives (same cases as the current "easystore" drives)
Bestbuy recently had a sale on these drives, which I purchased 20 of them (lots of store visits and online purchases). All of them were White labeled as of 2/5/2018. I installed them in my FreeNAS server and they work fine...
The real problem is actually where the screw mounts are located. The sides are fine and you can put rails on them. However, if you try to mount it on the bottom, the screw hole spacing is not standardized like other drives.
HAHAHAHAHA that drawing Jason ... :P
I bought 4 of these hard drive last Black Friday and just got 1 of them is the Red one, all the other drives are White label. The same as the one you unboxed in this video.
However, all of them work great in my Synology Nas.
What about the 3re pin?
A few years ago, I bought four 4TB externals for cheap, around the same price ($119 each I think). A couple months after that, I sold the enclosures on ebay for $25 each.
I loved the humor (5:43). That's what makes this channel so enjoyable ...
The WD MyBook I bought a year or so ago melted at the external power source plugin, so I ended up shucking it; it contained a WD Blue :(
Editing Jason needs to appear in every vid cuz he's deviously funny Lmbo
Yeah, I had a good laugh too at the Boobs and Devil in this video ... Ha ha ha ...
funny edit :) i like it
Like one guy said, test the enclosed drive with CrystalMark, HDD software and it will tell you the specifications and model. If it is the model you want carefully open the enclosure and save it for another HDD you want to power it with.
Yeah, cause you would have been able to return it after mangling that enclosure. What a genius. 🙂
NOTE: USE A GUITAR PICK OF AT LEAST 0.88mm thickness AND YOU WONT BREAK THE LITTLE TABS. Sooo, you could technically return it :P
OH AND YOU NEED 4 of them, just put them in where the tabs are (slide the pick back and fourth till you hear a slight click) and then once all four are done, slide the enclosure off.
Shucked my first western digital easy store.. Got a Red. I was pumped
One thing yu need to know, Best Buy is notorious to offer refurbish hard drives and external HD. That's why they are sometime cheaper. So please keep that in mind !
I've done this so many times lol. Didn't know it had a name. Great video lol
I remember when became cost affective. It was around 2012. I used to build my own external drives to save money and one day I realized it was cheaper just to buy a pre-made external drives.
Where I live, I'd need to do the exact opposite.. Internal HDDs are much, MUCH cheaper than external ones. Like for comparison a 1TB internal SATAIII SeaGate HDD costs ~53EUR. (on of the cheapest internal drives available). The absolutely cheapest external 1TB drive is a factory-refurbished B-stock Toshiba with a price of ~63EUR. At 4TB the difference is between 129EUR and 149EUR, with the internal being cheaper again. At 5TB the difference is 169EUR vs 209EUR with again the internal being cheaper. I couldn't find anything larger than 5TB at that particular store.
I was buying HD’s for my qnap yesterday at Fry’s. They were out of the WD red in 4TB size, but the salesman showed me an “HGST” NAS drive MADE by WD. Yeah, buddy! I think these might be what you have.
7200 w/64 cache for $99! I bought 2 and have my server up and almost configured.
these episodes are getting more entertaining and goofy! don't let the haters stop you! Your on a roll!
I can confirm that I recently shucked a slightly older WD external drive that was actually one of their NAS units in the 4TB size and inside it was a WD Red drive.
I just did this to an older 500G WD External "my book" - the power cord STB - tried another power cable, it was fine, so I figured, "what they hey, let me shuck this". turned out "green". Any idea what this is as opposed to white or red ??? Thanks for the informative and attention-keeping video ! Great job !
Jason, you shuck the way I do. Balls to warranty. I've 4 WD "Whites" (the drive you got), 3 are well over a year old and still trucking.
12TB version of this is on sale for $179 at best buy right now
let me guess you brought this during the black friday sale, they always have a black friday sale on those, i got two 14tb drive i will be getting 6 of them this year for next black friday sale which will be 16tb or 18tb
How do you know it is a red drive? You haven't even opened it!! Couldn't it be a white drive.
I've got a Western Digital Mycloud and its grate to go with a Rasbery Pi media player. Also supports USB drives it you ever need more storage.
I'm shore servers are better for demanding users, but for your average consumer I think there over kill.
I did the same thing. This is a WD RED, White label drive. And it sounds like you heard about the voltage issue.
I used to do this with the WD passport drives to get 2.5" drives. WD got smart after all the TH-cam posts like yours saying to do it and they started to solder on a small connector so people couldn't use the drives in the future. So be forewarned WD DOES pay attention...
Nope. They made that change to save money. 2.5" drives are far more popular than 3.5" and run on very little power, and it makes financial sense to produce the 2.5" USB interface model. 3.5" doesn't make sense to do the same because of the lower volume of sales and the requirement of external power. Cheaper to just use a commercially available USB to SATA adapter.
I personally would use smaller hard drives in a raid array, so you then you gain performance and reliability.
#1 Reason to Shuck a WD external drive, their stupid controller. I had one of these years ago (Like 1TB, maybe less age years ago) & after a few months the enclosure stopped working. I moved the drive & it worked fine but couldn't be used. I got another & tried using it but it didn't work either. I contacted WD & they said there's a hardware encryption unique to each individual controller so I could get a replacement controller but it would require me to reformat the drive. They said this was a security feature, which is stupid because anyone hooking up the drive through the controller can access all the data on it, any encryption to prevent that has to be user provided, & anyone trying to steal your data would either just steal the whole thing (it's not like it has any kind of mounting lock or anything). If you want to use the enclosure remove the drive, format it directly, then reconnect it. In my experience that makes it movable on 3 of the 4 controllers I had.
wow i payed for 4 tb $130 here in Canada it was on sell about 6 months ago
ofc they are cheaper if they are not the same thing ... what i meant by this is that the wd reds have a better lifespan + theyr speed is verry good .. and there are even cheaper variants of wd like blue or wd green(caviar) but idk if you can find those in the 8 tb version ..
The reason for the price differences is the type of platters and how fast the drives move. Most internal drives for PC's run at 7200 RPM's or greater. These drives run at 5400 RPM's. That is much slower. The type of platters for these are usually SMR. This type of drive is slower by almost 50 percent of standard desktop disks.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shingled_magnetic_recording explains that "shingled recording writes new tracks that overlap part of the previously written magnetic track". This is what causes the slowness of these drives. Do a speed test on the disks with no caching during your test and you will see the speed difference.
If you have no concern for retrieval speeds or you will not be writing real time video to to these disk all is fine.
You can not compare how good a deal these are as if this is an apples to apples comparison. You are getting more disk at the cost of a much slower speed.
Philip Hempel maybe watch the video first before talking about 5400 vs 7200 rpm. He said WD Reds, this guy knows its 5400. Not every 5400rpm drives are equal. WD Reds sells for $280 usually, he got a deal for half the price. Maybe BestBuy wanted to clear some stock overage, but you should know if you watch the damned video. I don't use 7200rpms for passive storage. In a home server a 7200rpm drive is going to generate a lot of heat, especially if you fit a bunch of them in RAIDs inside small enclosures. Not everybody needs a WD Black, and before you mention servers, those SAS drives goes to 15K alright, but they got cooling the sound of jet engine, so deal with it
Philip Hempel that really doesn't matter in a RAID array
Philip Hempel let me correct you, ‘You are getting more disk at the cost of much less cost’, which is the point of this video. The point was never to get uber high performance drives.
Jason, you should share your experince on the white labeled drives after pre-clearing them
Just got a 8tb seagate since i filled up both of my 1tb and 2 tb with ps4 pkgs,movies and pc games
Love that screwdriver set where did you get it?
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@@Bytemybits Looked at the link you provided for the screwdriver set shown in the video and it doesn't look like it matches.
When I shuck drives I treat the warranty like toilet paper. As long as the drive comes out I'm happy.
TechTaste
I was thinking the same... It's not exactly honest (legally it's fraud) to rip something to pieces, then reassemble and return it for a refund. I can't believe people actually think it's OK to do that.
i will start doing this, i have been burned by the proprietary boards failing on 90% of the ones i have purchased from seagate and WD.
Do you know if those boards that come off would be useful in making a loose DVD or Blu-ray burner drive portable?
Sometimes, can't confirm any brand.
Does that drive still work to this day??
NO them keeping the prices high are what is crazy ! And that if you open the case you ruin the warranty ! I've had many USB drive with broken case electronics, where I could just swap the case and SAVE MY DATA !!!
In 2009 Seagate had 2TB hard drive so the 1st 4TB should have been in 2011. 8TB in 2013, 16TB in 2015, 32TB in 2017, 64TB in 2019 ! And Seagate said they would sell 100TB drives in 2012, then 2018, now maybe 2022. But the military can store 1,000,000TB PER DAY for EACH DRONE, according to a military contractor in "Spies in the Sky" on PBS. So how could someone make a 1,000,000TB PER DAR, PER DRONE storage ? A MILLION 1TB a day RAID or 100,000TB per day 10TB drive. With a SMALL ARMY of workers constantly adding hard drives 24HRs a day. Or they already have 100TB , 1000TB and much denser storage. Like the 300TB disc, This Glass Disc Can Store 360 TB of Your Photos for 13.8 Billion Years. That was from 2013, so why don't we have them by now or at least 100TB discs ?
Technology is being HELD BACK !!!!
CPU at 3GHz in 2001, in 2018 about 4GHz ! It should be about 800GHz by now ! And Intel in2001 , Motorola in 2009, and DARPA in about 2009 have all announced 1TERAHERTZ ,1000GHz chips years ago !
So why isn't 1THz chips for sale ? Or 100TB or MORE discs ? And DVD for sale can only store about 4.5TB 9 if you can find dual layer ! But they could do 300TB in 2013 !!!
What is going on ?
I WAS INTENDED TO LAUGH AT YOU BUT......ANYWAY!!!TECHNOLOGY IS HELD BACK BY RUTHLESS PEOPLE BECAUSE IN THE NOT DISTANT FUTURE HUMANITY WILL BE EXTERMINATED BY THEM WHEN IT TRIES TO OVERCOME THEM...NUFF SAID!!! (I WANT MY LIFE FOR NOW)....SO PLEASE CALM DOWN AND W A K E U P !!! (DON'T BE THEIR VICTIM)
This is how I got my ps4 a 2 TB drive from Seagate and it works great.
I hate deleting games to download a new one.
same here . how big can PS4 take up to ? I have 1 tb
Why not sell the hardrive case?? Such a wast to throw a brand new perfectly working piece of equiptment away!
SocialHostage because it’s worth maybe $1
*WHY **_OPEN IT_** TO FIND OUT WHICH MODEL WHEN YOU CAN VERIFY THE MODEL BEFORE YOU MAKE THE PRODUCT INELIGIBLE FOR RETURN.... VIA SYSTEM INFO..?*
I protect the external enclosures so that I cab return failed drives.
Seagate and Samsung both use Seagate drives.
thumbs up for the painting xd
Love the look of total disappointment.
do you only shuck WD? I know Seagate shows as UAS (usb attached scisi) when looking at diagnostic. So it would be worthless to shuck them
where to start? Byte my bits is hilarious; the video was super informative, and editing Jason is funny as hell. Not proud, but this made bong water get sprayed all over the place in a fit of laughter when the dastardly doodle happened. Great stuff, and thanks for being informative and hilarious!
i believe these drives are binned from a lower quality set. i still like the idea tho
Love the I'm with stupid! Keep up the GREAT humor! Awesome!!
About a year ago I picked up a 4TB WD FOR $75 @ STAPLES it was the last one they had but I couldn't pass it up.
Mr family acted line I was crazy for shucking a dozen $110 5TB USB3.0 drives for my server. I'm definitely going for 8TB next time
Solid video - amazing editing skills! lol - all seriousness, the info you shared about the drives was new to me. Thanks!
i liked the video too, and it was edited well, but to be honest, the editing done in this video could be done by someone as young as 11 years old, given they were told "this is how you trim, and this is how you cut"
it's not like there is anything, editing wise, that would be considered difficult to edit in this video...
the $129 sale is clearly white label.
I bought 12 of NSBB version over BF and paid $140 for 2 of them and $150 for 10 of those.
I actually made purchased of 16, and kept 12 of those since 12 is the max HDD my desktop can fit.
I ended up having 1 white label (thailand 256MB) and it is literary identical as the red one except for the style of serial number and the color of the label.
Actually the reddit and slickdeals had list of serial # who are possibly be the white label, so defenitely should read that before open it.
i used to have one of these older model wd books and the enclosures suck. it fried on me so i took the drive out and put it in a dock and it works perfectly fine now. wd sucks.
Best buy has the sale today
If you still have that housing can you please upload a vid where you remove the plastic wrap from it?
Post the serial number on the external case or something. As I'm sure there is a way for WD to tell which is the cheap and which is the more expensive drive and onsell them cheaper in "sales"
What is that screwdriver set?
Hard drive lootboxes!
The only thing thats going to be f*****g red is your forearm if that knife slips :-/
i use the wd my book external hard drive fine in its original but when I shuck it out and install in my pc, it doesnt recognize the hard drive. Do u have to do anything before installing to the pc?
This would amazing for my Xbox one 😃
I did like your artwork interlude.
Props, big guy !!
I like this idea but it is still and SMR drive with low write speeds as apposed to the standard platter drive which is a PMR drive with faster read.
Hello, sorry to bother you with this, but you look like a real expert regarding usb HDs. Happens that I have a WD My Book 6TB and now is not working anymore. For some reason windows does not recognize the drive. I wen to every support page they have and several troubleshooting and nothing worked. Could you give some advice please? Regards from Lima, Perú
Nice Ubiquiti jacket, thanks for the info too!
Do you know if Seagate does the same thing with their ironwolf drives?
no they don't
No why would they put an enterprise drive in an ultra-low-end consumer product.
Ironwolf are not enterprise. Exos are.
Nice lighting, editing and sound. Good job
Very informative. Thanks for this.
Ps. Your voice is so soothing, i let your other videos autoplay as backround noise.
even with the fact you broke the That External Enclosure I Would've Loved to Have Had It without the Hard Drive! I Reuse Those External in Closures for Several Things That I Do Where I Work with A Lot of Older Used PC Equipment. They Make a Good Hard Drive Reformatting Tool As an Example. They Seem to Last Longer Than the Proper External Hard Drive Multitool Unit That I by. In Short They Are Good for We Formatting Hard Drives Externally When You Happen to Get a Used Computer That Probably Has Some Viruses on the Hard Drive It's Merely a Matter of Taking the Hard Drive of Using the USB Port External Device to Plug the Hard Drive into Another Machine and Reformat the Drive Then Put It Back into the Initial Machine You Took It out of and Reinstall Windows.
So would Seagate work or does it have to be WD?
they are cheap because they are factory seconds. ive never had a stripped drive that lasted as long as a true retail bare drive.
Kakureru D
Yep. Externals get the stuff that doesn't meet the OEM grade. The next grade down from externals is DOA.
Have any hard evidence for that claim, apart from the anecdote?
I have two 2tb from externals, got them for 6 years now.
@@BradK02 Mine just went corrupt after 10 years (WD Elements external). Now shopping for a new one. Maybe i got super lucky.
i got one like that one it was a white lable red and i got the other model 4tb one of them came with a 4tb red then bought 2 more and they were 4tb blues got one more ive not shucked yet so i ll let u know what it is
Hi can I do this with my passport?
Does this thing has like fans? The non destroyed. Because i need cheap storage without a server, just to have it runned 24/7 connected to my Nvidia shield
I think you have a lower chance of getting a RED on a "my book" drive, than other types of WD externals. Never saw a red in a My book.
do i have to convert it to gpt once inside my pc before it shows up or?
Did you get the WD80EZZX? When I bought 2 from B&H, they came with WD80EZZX. Also bought 2 from Best Buy and got REDs (W80EFZX).
hey Jason what software you use and how you test your Hard drive before you install it to your server?
How do you use this drive. I took a MyBook apart and tried to format the drive for use in a usb enclosure and the 3tb drive only yielded 2tb. Couldn't get the rest of the drive to do anything. Like it was locked
How come you never mention the molex to SATA power cable are taping the third power pin on hardrive to make them work when most the White hard drives won’t just plug n play way for most people
will these external hdd you took apart work as internal to install windows and is the external hdd size bigger than 3.5?
Confusion, whats the diffrence between the green and red drive? If they both hold the same amount of data arnt they the same? Or is just performance based?
Edit: i searched online and found nothing, basically they are saying its identical except for price. So whats the big deal?
Not Kris reliability. Red drives are considered more "industrial" or top-end than green labeled drives. I've had several greens fail over the years.
external hard drive cheaper than internal ones??? lol
here where I live they go for almost double the internal ones...