NBN HFC REVIEW 2019 / First Impressions

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  • @rodrrico
    @rodrrico  5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    It seems quite a few people are still experiencing significant issues with their connections, even with TPG HFC. Without knowing the exact setups people have, it's very hard for this video to be seen as a blanket 'answer' or fact for everyone. Please keep the comments civil and respectful of others folks.

  • @davidscott4318
    @davidscott4318 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Good video, thanks. 4 years on, I have NBN HFC at 2 Sydney locations, both 100/40 tier, now $109/m I think. 1 thru Optu$ and 1 thru Aussie Broadband, both rock solid, with occasional scheduled outages middle of night due to NBN upgrades. Aussie Broadband service is excellent, Optu$ is terrible (almost as bad as Tel$tra). Aussie Broadband previously offered 6 months free upgrade trial to 1000 Mbps which nornally clocked high 700's. Now back to 100/40 which usually speedtests at about 109/37 at both locations.

  • @brendanfarthing
    @brendanfarthing 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    You are one of the lucky ones. I have HFC NBN via iiNet (TPG) and it is horrendous. Drops out 10-20x a day every day. Over 11 months they have not been able to fix it. Just a flawed network. Cabling around here is 25 years old and wasn't replaced at all when NBN took over the Foxtel cable network. Can't even watch Foxtel properly anymore because we have to use Foxtel Go now over NBN, but the NBN drops out all day and Foxtel is unwatchable. What a success.....

    • @rodrrico
      @rodrrico  4 ปีที่แล้ว

      There are far too many cases of hit and miss for sure. I am certainly one of the lucky ones (and I wasn't trying to brag). I really appreciate your comment and feedback!

  • @SkiizmBeatz
    @SkiizmBeatz 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    im from overseas but i still find interest in other countries internet speeds. We had a project in my country for NBN but it was never continued

    • @rodrrico
      @rodrrico  5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thanks for the input friendo ;)

    • @SkiizmBeatz
      @SkiizmBeatz 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      ;) haha nice editing skills got that 24fps filter

    • @rodrrico
      @rodrrico  5 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@SkiizmBeatz It's 25fps throughout as I live in a PAL region. NTSC use 24 or 30 fps.

  • @rodrrico
    @rodrrico  4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hey everyone! I've updated the video with timestamps! Enjoy.

  • @nathanmiller1
    @nathanmiller1 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I have HFC with Aussie Broadband on a 100/40 plan. My download speed averages around 95Mbps. I'm happy with the speed, although the wifi of the Netcomm NF18ACV they provided is not as strong over long distances as my old ADSL modem.
    My biggest complaint was the incompetent electrician they sent down to install the system. He was only willing to use an existing Foxtel socket that the house already had and refused to add a new one where I wanted, even though my provider sent an email saying it was my right to decide where I want the connection to go. I could have refused his service, but I was desperately anticipating the NBN for months and it probably would've meant I would need to wait even longer to get connected to the NBN. I did give him a negative review when the NBN asked for feedback. So that was the only downside I experienced so far.

    • @rodrrico
      @rodrrico  5 ปีที่แล้ว

      I am aware that the NBN install technicians are a very mixed bag unfortunately. They have had to scale up very fast and are not getting the best people available. That's such a shame you had a bad experience - I wish you had the guy who did mine!

    • @tready2008
      @tready2008 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @nathan Miller, Unforutnaly the information that the providers send out is not quite correct, You have the choice to have the outlet installed where you want if you have never had HFC conncected before to the premises and dont have current outlet such as foxtel or telstra cable. If you do have a current outlet then the nbn will use this to connected the Arris connection device. If you want you can get a registered cabler to install an outlet in another room.

  • @deanmorgan3712
    @deanmorgan3712 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I also am with tpg with a HFC connection, and although the vr1600 has been adequate, when under load with zoom meetings, the wifi starts to struggle. I am currently looking for a substitute. the only complication would seem to be VOIP. would really appreciate any info you have.

    • @rodrrico
      @rodrrico  4 ปีที่แล้ว

      I personally gave up on VOIP phones as I do all my calls via my mobile these days. I haven't found a suitable modem replacement thus far that is TPG port compatible. If you hear of anything anyone recommends, please do let us all know here. Thank you so much for watching.

  • @blathum9
    @blathum9 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    You cannot change your cable modem all you need is a decent router?? Draytek make very high quality units like the 2925 for about $250 on Ebay

    • @rodrrico
      @rodrrico  4 ปีที่แล้ว

      I'll have to check that out. Thanks for your suggestion and for watching.

  • @arjay69
    @arjay69 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Getting HFC installed today, I went with Aussie Broadband, was either ABB or Superloop. ASUS RT-AC68U is what I'll be using!

    • @timj4601
      @timj4601 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      How is that going?? Was also thinking Aussie broadband and have also heard good things about that modem

    • @toastykoro
      @toastykoro 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@timj4601 just got HFC and it's shit I tell you

  • @NateVlog1
    @NateVlog1 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Very detailed review! I dig it 🤗

    • @rodrrico
      @rodrrico  5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Wow thanks for that man! I'm really surprised that you and others from overseas are watching this "local issue" video. Thanks a million 😀

  • @tready2008
    @tready2008 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Sorry but I have to correct you, Telstra do offer the top tier speed 100/40 on NBN HFC and have since the beginning, I actually just got moved over to NBN HFC from my existing Telstra cable connection last week. Getting 95Mbps Down and 37Mbps up.

    • @rodrrico
      @rodrrico  5 ปีที่แล้ว

      It's not listed as an option for personal plans on their website and this was also told to me from various customers. Can you verify you are talking about the personal plans and perhaps provide us all with a link. Thanks for watching either way!

    • @tready2008
      @tready2008 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@rodrrico On there site: telstra.com.au/internet/nbn
      Just click the more about nbn speeds link under the different plans and it will show you the standard plus and premium evening speeds. Or if you look at the CIS: telstra.com.au/help/critical-information-summaries/personal/home-internet/telstra-bundles/internet-plans
      You can also see the speed boost charges, What telstra is doing and other providers as well now since the ACCC crackdown on broadband speeds. Is if your unlucky to be in a FTTN area telstra wont sell the higher speed until the line is provisioned and they know what the line is capable of.
      If however your connected via HFC, FTTP and i think maybe FTTC, they will sell the speed up front. It currently cost $30 extra a month for 100Mbps but this can be easily negotiated to $15 a month or even free if your lucky. I currently pay $105 a month for unlimited 100Mbps HFC with 4G backup via there smart modem.

    • @rodrrico
      @rodrrico  5 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@tready2008 Yeah I checked it and these are not listed as their standard plans as I first stated. Just the fact that you need to call to ask for better speeds and pay an extra $15 minimum per month for something readily available cheaper (and easier, as listed on other Telco sites on their lander pages) seems pointless from an economic point of view. Thanks for the info though. Perhaps some people will prefer Telstra over cheaper alternatives for personal reasons.

    • @tready2008
      @tready2008 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@rodrrico correct but stating they don't even offer it all is false information. It's still reasonably clear on there site. And on the first part of the sign up you can check higher speeds if you want. Optus does the same thing rather then advertising heaps of plans they show a couple and you can add on the boost. It also asks what speeds tier you would like during the first part of the sign up. You can try it your self. Select the plan and select checkout out as guest. Before even entering any details at all it's there to select.
      Price however is a completely different debate which I'm not going to get into.

    • @rodrrico
      @rodrrico  5 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@tready2008 not false advertising at all. You're flat out wrong. Not going to debate the obvious facts with you further as I suspect you have a vested interest in Telstra. I appreciate you watching and happy for you to offer your opinion, but like my review. It's nothing more than that.

  • @foodiegalore
    @foodiegalore 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Distance to node for HFC does not matter. It’s only for copper that speed degrades after around 400 metres.

    • @rodrrico
      @rodrrico  5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yes and no. As far as I know, all HFC lines only exist up to the node and then it's copper only from the node to the 'home' connection. But please let me know if this is not the case. Thanks for watching!

    • @ScottGreenAU
      @ScottGreenAU 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      HFC connects don’t use any copper.

    • @rodrrico
      @rodrrico  5 ปีที่แล้ว

      For the final part of the connection, yes. However lines leading up to the node are largely copper. Then coax / cable from the ndoe to the home.

    • @camhill9559
      @camhill9559 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@rodrrico hybrid Fiber coax, its fiber from the poi to the node then coaxial (copper) cable. the coax is different to what people normally mean by copper ie old original copper phone lines, because its thicker and shielded. this gives it better transmission properties and it acts like a giant antennae joining all the premises in one shared line.
      The difference in the "modem" with tpg is that it uses Vlan tagging on the router, so the replacement router must supourt vlan tagging on the wan port. I recommend a ubiquiti edge router x. or just use a different wifi ap that doesn't crash.

    • @rodrrico
      @rodrrico  5 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@camhill9559 Thanks for your awesome feedback! I'll checkout that router for sure. I was keen on the latest Nighthawk, but after digging online, I found it's not compatible with TPG's port system. I called my local council to find out how old the line are in my area, and they say approx 40 years, but couldn't specify my street per say. Thanks for watching!

  • @MarkHoltze
    @MarkHoltze 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Totally doesn't apply to me, but I find local area issues to be somewhat interesting. "I'm glad I don't have this problem" - what? Who said that?
    Great video dude, clean, informative and funny!

    • @rodrrico
      @rodrrico  5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Oh wow! Thanks for watching Mark! I didn't think anyone overseas would stop by so I really appreciate it. Something tells me you have vastly superior internet speed in your neck of the woods 😉👍

  • @justinwebster5891
    @justinwebster5891 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    I'm getting TPG nbn installed next week and found out it's HFC.
    Will D-link ac5300 wifi modem work?

    • @rodrrico
      @rodrrico  4 ปีที่แล้ว

      I'm not 100% sure. TPG are very restrictive with their port system which has created many headaches for people using their own router / modem options. If anyone has some feedback, I'd love to know the answer too!

  • @Neojhun
    @Neojhun 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    That TPG TP-Link ROUTER actually has custom ROM soo they can Remote Control & Mass Push Configs to it. It's basically the only Router that is supported by them. It's utterly junk and the Power Barrel Connection is Weak and the wifi chipset is Outdated. I basically use it as a dumb wired gateway to a much more powerful Router. But that just adds another of Failure Point & Loading HangUps (my DNS is a mess) ontop of the Docsis 3.0 Modem. ISP have desperate need to lock down their network and not let Generic Devices on the encryption by obscurity WAN. That is the systematic corporate problem we are currently facing.

    • @rodrrico
      @rodrrico  4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Perhaps that's why I've had great difficulty setting up a dedicated server to play games with friends. Thanks for watching and for your insight.

    • @Neojhun
      @Neojhun 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@rodrrico Oh yeah Outward Facing WAN Hosting is a total mess and not really viable by design. It would take alot of difficult work to preserve the Custom ROM & get port forwarding working right. These ISP very much do not want you to be hosting services on their Consumer network. Basically corrupt the entire point of the NBN, to preserve the status quo Broadcast Media structure.

    • @rodrrico
      @rodrrico  4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Neojhun can you recommend a suitable alternative Router that's TPG NBN HFC compatible?

    • @Neojhun
      @Neojhun 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@rodrrico Honestly no clue about a VOIP supported TPG Router. This list is an outdated list of old Routers. There is very little information on Modern high end AC & AX routers that was properly supported by TPG.
      community.tpg.com.au/t5/Broadband-Internet/List-of-compatible-and-NOT-compatible-NBN-FTTB-FTTN-modems/td-p/850
      Braddley
      posted a comment about DIY PPPoE on generic Router.
      www.tpg.com.au/support/nbn/generalsetting
      Based on this community page comment and some sketchy shop branding. Asus RT AX 88U works and is an expensive 500 aussie pesos gamble. Good luck.
      community.tpg.com.au/t5/Broadband-Internet/ASUS-RT-AX88U-NBN-SETUP-INSTRUCTIONS/td-p/51322

  • @panos8444
    @panos8444 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I have the identical connection and speed you, but only through Optus 100/40.
    My work around as I was having connection issues is I installed a new extender/access’s point (netgear ex7000) wired to existing wifi router as Optus can throttle down there own wifi router but not my access point. Bein 1month going strong

    • @rodrrico
      @rodrrico  5 ปีที่แล้ว

      That's excellent! Glad to hear that you have been able to beat their throttling. I haven't had throttling on my TPG connection thus far. Thanks for the tip though and thanks for watching.

  • @MildlyMinimal
    @MildlyMinimal 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Telstra do offer the top tier plan and have offered the top tier plan way before this video was even uploaded. It's not a plan option, it's a bolt-on for an extra $30/mo for 100mbps down and 40mbps up

    • @rodrrico
      @rodrrico  4 ปีที่แล้ว

      If someone wants to throw away $120 per month for the same plan that TPG and others are offering for $90 per month. That's their choice. It was not an option before this video was made. I went to telstra and asked for their top personsl plsn which was nbn 50.

    • @rodrrico
      @rodrrico  4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Top personal plan. Not business plan.

    • @MildlyMinimal
      @MildlyMinimal 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@rodrrico I wouldn't be surprised if the consultant wasn't knowledgeable because I've actually been working in sales for Telstra for the last 2 years. We've never had it listed as a separate plan option but it has always been an extra $30/mo bolt on to the $90/mo plan, obviously only available to FTTP and HFC customers. Good video nonetheless, I enjoyed watching it.

    • @rodrrico
      @rodrrico  4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@MildlyMinimal Could be the consultant indeed. Thanks for your feedback all the same, and for watching!

  • @leighmckenzie1912
    @leighmckenzie1912 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Hi Rodrrico, Came back to Australia after 20 odd years in the US......what an internet shock to the system! Anyway I'm dealing with it. I have TPG as a provider with the same hardware set up you show in your informative video. I am looking to upgrade my router as a potential weak link in a fairly weak system. I am struggling though to find a suitable router. I just purchased an ASUS AC88U 3100 only to find out that it doesn't work from more or less a hardware (connectivity) perspective. TPG seem to have a configuration that is unique. Anyway, I will press on in my quest. Have you had any luck in this area?

    • @rodrrico
      @rodrrico  5 ปีที่แล้ว

      So far I have not found a superior router. Indeed, TPG have a unique port system that renders most routers on the market utterly useless with a TPG connection. Very frustrating indeed as otherwise I rate TPG quite highly.
      Sorry I can't be of much more help. Thank you very much for watching, for your feedback and questions though! I really appreciate it.

    • @Neojhun
      @Neojhun 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      OMG that's the exact the same Router i'm using, it's awesomely powerful. The Idiotic thing you have to do it Double up Routers and use the TP-Link as a Wired Gateway and VOIP. I explain it in my longer comment. There is not much detriment to performance, latency is still awesome at 9ms. You can use the AC88U just fine, it's worth keeping.

  • @sydfin
    @sydfin 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Don’t use the VR1600v as your main router, if you need the phone port use the VR1600v as secondary box. It’s problematic connecting it on the same subdomain via the lan port if you also want to use 1600 as access point as well. Also take note of the settings on your 1600 as you will need for new router, I had to use username and password and a few other settings to get to work. Techs will have you believe it’s a straight internet port out of HFC but it’s not. By the way 1600 is a very crapy box....

  • @lizziecorke6714
    @lizziecorke6714 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The sticker is the best bit.

    • @rodrrico
      @rodrrico  5 ปีที่แล้ว

      HAHA! Yes! Don't forget to add the sticker so we all know it's the NBN cable...

  • @akira5982
    @akira5982 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Why dont they offer a choice to pay for fttp, i'd pay for it

    • @tready2008
      @tready2008 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      They do via the technology choice program: however it can be quite expensive depending on how you are connected at the moment and the distance of the fiber termination point. Its generally worth it if your on FTTN or FTTC. More info can be found here: nbnco.com.au/learn/network-technology/technology-choice-program

  • @ltstarbuck10
    @ltstarbuck10 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    install point in house is for free one point i think setup is waved

  • @SilverSetFan
    @SilverSetFan 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    For many years we have been on the waiting list for an NBN installation in my street and it is ridiculous. Not only that on the NBN website it tells me that NBN is available in my street and I'm ready to connect. From this point on NBN is more dodgy than the Chinese government. I'm stuck using a Vodafone wireless broadband and it's costing an absolute fortune.
    *SOS*

    • @rodrrico
      @rodrrico  4 ปีที่แล้ว

      That's no good. Yes, it's been an absolute shambles across the country. Hopefully you get connected and it works as well as it does for me. Thanks for watching and for your experience.

  • @ScottGreenAU
    @ScottGreenAU 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    NBN is now proposing 1000/50 over HFC and FTTP (with FTTC being up for review) mid year 2020.
    HFC connections still have some life in them yet.

    • @rodrrico
      @rodrrico  5 ปีที่แล้ว

      I sure hope so, as a slower plan than what I am on right now would only hurt my business.

    • @rodrrico
      @rodrrico  5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Nice, what plan is your connection down and up?

    • @rodrrico
      @rodrrico  5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Nice. What are you paying a month? I'm seeing a few people quoting amazing download potential, but uploads all seem to be capped at 40.

    • @rodrrico
      @rodrrico  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Update, I've been picked to test this connection for the past few months. I get approx 950Mbps down and 45-47Mbps up. It's amazing. Perhaps I need to make an updated video...

  • @nicko9799
    @nicko9799 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I dodged the bullet I have Telstra cable in my area and fiber to the premises and on one side of my street which is me I have fiber and Telstra cable and on the other side they only have HFC Telstra cable
    I love fiber to the premise
    I love the freedom of multiple services on the one ntd and the freedom to do 250mbps plus plans with certain providers
    Such a shame Australia voted in incompetent conservatives hell bent on destroying the NBN

    • @rodrrico
      @rodrrico  5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Nice! That would be my pick from 'quality assurance' point of view. I have telstra cabling in my area too, but didn't want to pay their ridiculous fees for half the product that just about every other ISP was offering. I hope yours is working great though!

  • @wotmate
    @wotmate 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Just wait until your node fills up with everyone connected to it and it all falls to shit.

  • @bh0195
    @bh0195 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Any router that supports PPPoE \ PAP should work, unless like iiNet they also use a VLAN.
    Checkout: www.tpg.com.au/support/nbn/generalsetting
    Note: Your phone service may not work with other VOIP enabled router's

  • @roblozano4787
    @roblozano4787 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    24 hours without internet.. I’ve heard this isn’t a rare occasion

    • @rodrrico
      @rodrrico  5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      HAHA Yeah it's the worst! The internet is such an integral part of our lives these days.

    • @Neojhun
      @Neojhun 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Lucky soo far in the 18month since we've had HFC we had 3x several hour outages twice due to severe weather and one due screw up by NBN with the Infrastructure side Config. That's equaled to the amount of times it's happened on ADSL2 in the past 12 years.

  • @lindenwatson846
    @lindenwatson846 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    seriously the NBN is just a huge joke!

    • @rodrrico
      @rodrrico  ปีที่แล้ว

      For many, yes. I guess I was lucky.

  • @NoLeftTurn54321
    @NoLeftTurn54321 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    thanks for the review, I empathize completely having my own version of NBN HFC farce since August. Daily dropouts, some lasting hours. Makes it nigh on impossible to remote work.

    • @rodrrico
      @rodrrico  5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Gees! I hope they fix your area! When it works, it's great but dropouts benefit no one. Thanks for watching, really appreciate it.

    • @brendanfarthing
      @brendanfarthing 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Same here. Over the past 20 years I didn't have a single issue remote working via dial-up, ADSL1 and ADSL2. Worked flawlessly. As soon as I got HFC NBN i had more issues in 1 day than in the past 20 years combined. Now i can no longer work from home unless i use my phone as a hotspot, which is ridiculous.

  • @therealslowchannel
    @therealslowchannel 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Hahaha, your political comments are great!

    • @rodrrico
      @rodrrico  4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thanks for watching and for noticing my silly digs.