Gotta be honest, i feel like they've doomed her by making her a Breaker in an Element where the Break Multiplier is the 2 worst. At the very least, they could've gone and make her Wind
isnt she mainly superbreak though? imaginary delays enemies, which means their broken state is extended and you get more opportunities to deal superbreak dmg.. right? unlike boothill where his dmg is just normal break, so it makes sense for him to be physical which has the highest break dmg multiplier
I honestly don't think we should be comparing rappa and acheron together since they both do very different things in the damage department. One is superbreak focused and one is nihility hypercarry gaming. So Maybe rappa against firefly is a more better comparison.
Why no? They both want to fight against as many targets as possible but Acheron is classic crit dd and Rappa - break dd. So here we could see Rappa's problems.
Reasons why i'm skipping Rappa: 1. Massive 2.7 banner after 2.6 2. Dependent on her lc, the action advance, ER and huge BE are all essential stats for her. 3. No alternative 4*/f2p lightcone 4. No weakness implant 😞 5. Lastly, bcs i'm f2p, don't have the luxury to aimlessly pull whatever.
She has no implant but seems to have 100% rainbow weakness efficiency though. unlike firefly which has fire implant but only 55% rainbow weakness break efficiency.
@@betalpha5846 55% break effeciency on the adjacent targets. Implant still 100% better as it reduces enemy res and guarantees toughness break. Not to mention Galla and Lingsha also benefits from it. She does ignore element and increased break effeciency during ult same as Acheron and Feixiao. The difference is Rappa only does real dmg when they're broken, unlike the above mentioned. So unless the enemies are weak to Imaginary, you always have to rely on your ult to break everytime.
That was my reaction to E6 firefly Eidolons don’t seem to matter much as in dps for break then it does for crit only way to actually make them good enough for break dps to compare to others is by eidolons giving extra turns or what not
I mean Acheron with JQ can easily 40K PF so this video showing her lack of flexibility without the Implants or having high ST/2 TDR even at S6 because even Jade at E1S1 would probably 1 cycle the first half.
@@The_CodFish69Acheron is a hybrid units she does big damage with her ult her only flaw is limited weapon choice and how fast can you get her ult up every rotation so comparing that’s really doesn’t make much sense, plus everyone know FF and Acheron where build to be the best at what they do I don’t think hoyo tried to hide that at all
@@MrMoraleTop5 stop with the cope there is a new 4 star LC for Acheron now and with JQ she can get 1/2 extra ults now, as for being a hybrid idk what that has to do with anything besides showing why Acheron has a lot better flexibility and value then Rappa. As for FF same thing applies besides PF ( tho with Iingsha she's still good in the mode ) she is just flat out better in AS and MoC the most important thing being Rappas lack of a Weaknesses Implant.
It’s cuz rappa sucks against few target + non img weak even tho she has rainbow break, she just does too little toughness reduction and doesn’t synergise well with SB team when compared to FF, I wouldn’t say FF is the best unit but you can’t deny that she works well with her team with weakness implant (boosting Lingsha) and having very high toughness reduction (Also first wave has no fire weakness so Lingsha couldn’t help either)
@@Cat-pv6yxi dont get it how she sucks against fewer targets when she has the same toughness breaking against 5 enemies, am i missing smth?, look at boothill he is a hunt character and he literally deletes half the toughness bar she is just an erudition character where her base toughness breaking just sucks ass thats why she has break efficiency in her kit she is decent ngl but she is mainly for PF and yet FF can still easily have 30k clear with gallagher , they even doomed her by not having imaginary weakness implant
@@shiron122 That's literally the same for everyone else that has several 'good team', you can pretty much just skip absolutely everyone unless its a unit you want.
Funny enough, I began to play this game when it was Aventurine's banner.. just perfect time to miss Acheron. Now my account is already invested mostly on Break and FuA, I technically skip Acheron.
the dmg is good but the fact that THAT is E6 is crazy...my e0 acheron and e1 ff can do close to 400k everywhere (moc,pf and as) with decent supports i only have sparkle, e1 bronya, aven, hmc and no raun mei but this dmg is realy not it for an e6 chracter with those supports...cuz if my ff had these she'd just keep 0 cycling everywhere
@@nlat9848 its her talent. She dealt break dmg on the 3rd EBA hit regardless enemies are broken or not. Same thing for her technique. Yet people crying about her not having weakness implant = mid
@@schariacveliona3449its a valid complaint though? Both Boothill and Firefly have implants in their kit, Rappa is the only break DPS to not have it. She performs consistently worse than both of them when compared as a break DPS, performs worse as an AOE DPS then either Jade or Acheron, and has been shown to be one of the worst DPS in the game when the enemy doesn’t have Imaginary or Fire weakness. Not even to mention that the 3rd EBA thing only works when you’ve already broken another enemy on field, otherwise she’s the same as FF.
@@bronben5479the same as FF in terms of what? Damage? Not really. Coz in FF's case u can have more actions than Rappa per ult usage And she breaks faster resulting to high dmg coming sooner rather than later
Welp said to hear that but getting Lingsha as a Break main is a win nonetheless. Not to mention if the latest Tingyun leaks are true then ya might want to skip her…
FF is superior, but only a decent difference. It will probably make a 1 cycle difference if you use the exact same relics and E0S1 in MoCs with matching weaknesses. I'll pull for Rappa and skip Sunday, call me "based" or "stupid" on your choice.
Firefly outperforms Rappa on imaginary enemies it's not even close Good luck on your pulls tho the game isn't nearly hard enough to have your preferences dictated by meta @@efeozel9498
alright guys, can someone explain to me why is everyone in comms saying she is bad asf, if looking like this, she looks pretty strong. Im newbie in game so please, explain in NON HSR language, so I will understand
you are watching an e6s1 showcase which requires 💰💰💰💰 and even then she's still worse than other aoe dps in the game like ff and Acheron. realistically if you were to use e0s1 rappa she'd perform MUCH WORSE than what you see in this video. that being said she'll probably still be viable in pure fiction which is an aoe focused gamemode
Acheron is good in all content not just Pure Fiction, she's a better investment as a new player especially since you kinda really want Ruan Mei for Break teams (Rappa) who I am assuming you don't have. Aventurine is rerunning too the next banner and he'll be great for your Feixiao team so make sure you're ready for that.
Acheron. But in order for her to be viable to play in PF you need jiaoqiu. You can still go for rappa, but the reason acheron is more preferable is because rappa are locked against imaginary enemies content. Acheron, however, does not
Depends what dps and sustainer you got. If its a hyper carry id say Aventurine. If its a super break id say acheron. Ideally you want to build your account for options and longevity. (Aventurine might have the most flexible and longevity but you only really need 2 sustainers on your account).
Reasons why I’m NOT skipping rappa
1- her ult
Thank you for reading like for part 2
Where's part two 😡😡?
😂😂
Gotta be honest, i feel like they've doomed her by making her a Breaker in an Element where the Break Multiplier is the 2 worst. At the very least, they could've gone and make her Wind
Nah, HMC itself is Imaginary, but Their break dmg is more impressive. Don't blame the element
isnt she mainly superbreak though?
imaginary delays enemies, which means their broken state is extended and you get more opportunities to deal superbreak dmg.. right?
unlike boothill where his dmg is just normal break, so it makes sense for him to be physical which has the highest break dmg multiplier
Nah if only they give her imaginary weakness implant, then HMC can help with breaking enemies
i think shes pretty balanced, she lacks a little bit of toughness reduction but shes designed to be played in pf after all
@@Anass_M lore player moment, fire and physical have higher scaling for break
I honestly don't think we should be comparing rappa and acheron together since they both do very different things in the damage department. One is superbreak focused and one is nihility hypercarry gaming. So Maybe rappa against firefly is a more better comparison.
Why no?
They both want to fight against as many targets as possible but Acheron is classic crit dd and Rappa - break dd.
So here we could see Rappa's problems.
The thing is Rappa only good in pf, while Acheron and FF can perform good in most contents
We all know she’s mid
@@Dora8197 Correction, in all content
but they’re both hypercarry dpses.. thats the same category
It doesn't matter the point is that they're both hypercarries. So they *can* be compared
Feels more like an Acheron showcase tbh lol
Acheron’s problem in moc is sometimes the enemies die too fast for her to charge her ult for wave 2 😅. Imagine being too strong as a debuff
Reasons why i'm skipping Rappa:
1. Massive 2.7 banner after 2.6
2. Dependent on her lc, the action advance, ER and huge BE are all essential stats for her.
3. No alternative 4*/f2p lightcone
4. No weakness implant 😞
5. Lastly, bcs i'm f2p, don't have the luxury to aimlessly pull whatever.
You can use the 4* sunday lc on her
These Are Valid reasons of why not to pull her other then sum meta slaves who js aimlessly Trash her playstyle
@@moerexe oh, didn't even know it existed, definitely an alternative f2p lc. But her sig lc is just broken.
She has no implant but seems to have 100% rainbow weakness efficiency though. unlike firefly which has fire implant but only 55% rainbow weakness break efficiency.
@@betalpha5846 55% break effeciency on the adjacent targets. Implant still 100% better as it reduces enemy res and guarantees toughness break. Not to mention Galla and Lingsha also benefits from it. She does ignore element and increased break effeciency during ult same as Acheron and Feixiao. The difference is Rappa only does real dmg when they're broken, unlike the above mentioned. So unless the enemies are weak to Imaginary, you always have to rely on your ult to break everytime.
Reasons why i'm skipping Rappa:
1. I watched this video.
You're telling me this isn't e0 rappa...
That was my reaction to E6 firefly
Eidolons don’t seem to matter much as in dps for break then it does for crit only way to actually make them good enough for break dps to compare to others is by eidolons giving extra turns or what not
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It was an MOC showcase so i ain't complaining she performed really well, i think she will be way better in PF, for being an erudition unit
@suzain_769 that's E6 already, what will happen if you pull her at E0S0?
@@pkt8090i'm pretty sure you die but that might not be true
I mean Acheron with JQ can easily 40K PF so this video showing her lack of flexibility without the Implants or having high ST/2 TDR even at S6 because even Jade at E1S1 would probably 1 cycle the first half.
@@The_CodFish69Acheron is a hybrid units she does big damage with her ult her only flaw is limited weapon choice and how fast can you get her ult up every rotation so comparing that’s really doesn’t make much sense, plus everyone know FF and Acheron where build to be the best at what they do I don’t think hoyo tried to hide that at all
@@MrMoraleTop5 stop with the cope there is a new 4 star LC for Acheron now and with JQ she can get 1/2 extra ults now, as for being a hybrid idk what that has to do with anything besides showing why Acheron has a lot better flexibility and value then Rappa.
As for FF same thing applies besides PF ( tho with Iingsha she's still good in the mode ) she is just flat out better in AS and MoC the most important thing being Rappas lack of a Weaknesses Implant.
Excuse me did and E6S1 character 2 cycle the first stage
What wh... Whaaaaat?
Toughness lock kills break teams. Can't break, so can't deal superbreak damage. So what damage can you do? Nothing. 😢
It’s cuz rappa sucks against few target + non img weak even tho she has rainbow break, she just does too little toughness reduction and doesn’t synergise well with SB team when compared to FF, I wouldn’t say FF is the best unit but you can’t deny that she works well with her team with weakness implant (boosting Lingsha) and having very high toughness reduction
(Also first wave has no fire weakness so Lingsha couldn’t help either)
@@Hyac1nthI mean both FF and BH could 0 cycle the half without E6 investment hell you might not even need E2…
@@Cat-pv6yxi dont get it how she sucks against fewer targets when she has the same toughness breaking against 5 enemies, am i missing smth?, look at boothill he is a hunt character and he literally deletes half the toughness bar she is just an erudition character where her base toughness breaking just sucks ass thats why she has break efficiency in her kit
she is decent ngl but she is mainly for PF and yet FF can still easily have 30k clear with gallagher , they even doomed her by not having imaginary weakness implant
@@Cat-pv6yxthe thing is. FF + Lingsha is better and more universal than Rappa + Lingsha in PF
The way E2 firefly is better than E6 Rappa...
Definitely not true, Rappa is meant for pure fiction she isn’t a MOC unit so testing her in MOC and saying one another is better makes no sense
@@MrMoraleTop5and dat's it only in pure fiction
@@MrMoraleTop5Firefly + Lingsha > Rappa + Lingsha for PF. Even more with the came of tingyun because of the fire element.
@@MrMoraleTop5what is the reason to pull for a pf unit while there are others which outperform her in both
Rappa lacks break effect (it should be 250%) and for Archeron you only need 55% crit rate and use insert salotto
1:20 interesting, forced break damage without the toughness bar actually being broken
Acheron is still the best dps
Rappa is nice, but if u already hv a lot dps, she is easy to skip, imo
Yes, what else do you need to take Edolon 3.
@@shiron122 That's literally the same for everyone else that has several 'good team', you can pretty much just skip absolutely everyone unless its a unit you want.
Funny enough, I began to play this game when it was Aventurine's banner.. just perfect time to miss Acheron. Now my account is already invested mostly on Break and FuA, I technically skip Acheron.
Acheron is still the worst f2p DPS
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I remember the live mentioning that rappa can break any enemies even they dont have her ult 😭,skippa
Acheron damage 🥵 I need her
i was thinking this was e0 this whole time and thought it was weak. How bad is this character?
the dmg is good but the fact that THAT is E6 is crazy...my e0 acheron and e1 ff can do close to 400k everywhere (moc,pf and as) with decent supports i only have sparkle, e1 bronya, aven, hmc and no raun mei but this dmg is realy not it for an e6 chracter with those supports...cuz if my ff had these she'd just keep 0 cycling everywhere
很好的影片，感謝測試！
希望能有E6S1黃泉+E6S1花火+E6S1椒丘+E6S1砂金的測試
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@@WH17EHOLE
He's hoping to see the testing of e6s1 acheron+ e6s1 sparkle + e6s1 jiaoqiu and e6s1 adventurine
@@Utaha-Senpai Placer is aventurine? Huangquan is Jiaoqiu? lmao what
@@4g3nt06 huangquan is acheron
Acheron🔥🔥🔥🔥still the best
imo, I feel like Rappa should be compare to Firefly instead of Acheron
This shows how an enemy that can lock their toughness bar just hard counters SB teams lol
Rappa use domain expansion
This is literally like comparing Mualani to Neuvilette.
That why i'm pulling for e2s1 acheron
1:21 Can still provide break damage even in thoughness lock state😮
At first I thought it was an eidelon effect, but no. Still don't understand where the break came from tho
@@nlat9848 its her talent. She dealt break dmg on the 3rd EBA hit regardless enemies are broken or not. Same thing for her technique. Yet people crying about her not having weakness implant = mid
@@schariacveliona3449its a valid complaint though? Both Boothill and Firefly have implants in their kit, Rappa is the only break DPS to not have it.
She performs consistently worse than both of them when compared as a break DPS, performs worse as an AOE DPS then either Jade or Acheron, and has been shown to be one of the worst DPS in the game when the enemy doesn’t have Imaginary or Fire weakness.
Not even to mention that the 3rd EBA thing only works when you’ve already broken another enemy on field, otherwise she’s the same as FF.
@@bronben5479the same as FF in terms of what? Damage? Not really. Coz in FF's case u can have more actions than Rappa per ult usage And she breaks faster resulting to high dmg coming sooner rather than later
@@HSRFirefly i meant same as she can do almost no damage when the enemy isn’t weakness broken, sorry if that wasn’t clear
Reasons why I'm skipping Rappa:
1. Acheron
2. Aventurine
Her ult icon changed :0
Acheron already e6 now need rappa e6
yass Rappa stan
reason i'm skipping rappa :
1. aventurine's lc
yes
i fucked my life by getting lingsha
wanted rappa
Me too, hopefully I can win the 50/50 again💀
Welp said to hear that but getting Lingsha as a Break main is a win nonetheless.
Not to mention if the latest Tingyun leaks are true then ya might want to skip her…
@@The_CodFish69 got topaz as well thats my problem i got 50/50 3 times in a row jiaqio as well
E6 midppa need 3 cycles 💀
I guess the e6 isnt very worth it, doesn't look much different than e0s1
For me, this fight is not fair enough, because the dmg generated is different for each character.
What if, Rappa compared to Firefly?
FF is superior, but only a decent difference. It will probably make a 1 cycle difference if you use the exact same relics and E0S1 in MoCs with matching weaknesses.
I'll pull for Rappa and skip Sunday, call me "based" or "stupid" on your choice.
why not fair, both are aoe dps😂 it wont more fair if ff vs rappa bcs ff is blast and this moc made for aoe dps to boost rappa sales
@@i.t.s.s.i.l.v.e.rand even if the enemies are for Rappa, Firefly still performed on same level if not better
Firefly outperforms Rappa on imaginary enemies it's not even close
Good luck on your pulls tho the game isn't nearly hard enough to have your preferences dictated by meta
@@efeozel9498
In E0S0 rappa wins, but once firefly gets at least an E1 she wins😂
Skippa da rappa 😂😂😂
alright guys, can someone explain to me why is everyone in comms saying she is bad asf, if looking like this, she looks pretty strong. Im newbie in game so please, explain in NON HSR language, so I will understand
you are watching an e6s1 showcase which requires 💰💰💰💰 and even then she's still worse than other aoe dps in the game like ff and Acheron. realistically if you were to use e0s1 rappa she'd perform MUCH WORSE than what you see in this video. that being said she'll probably still be viable in pure fiction which is an aoe focused gamemode
@@fays04 e6 means eidolone, right?
@@ParadoxOnValo yeh
@@fays04 welp, almost got it, thank u
@@fays04 also, what does aoe means? u said "aoe dps"
I am gonna get my acheron her lc😂
Midppa, even with e6 and a shill boss, cant even 0 cycle it, lmaooo😂😂😂
ya she's sht but i'm still pulling love her design
yeah she is a easy skip tbh
@@reenfrfrwoah thats too far
@@reenfrfr Yeahhhh nope, do not say that even if it's a joke, that shit is messed up
Stfu😂 e0s0 rappa can 0 cycle it btw
Goddamn her ult is beautiful, but ill have to skip for five star tingyun 😔😔
9:12 xD
This made me laugh so hard and its not even that funny
I think Sparkle would be better for E6Acheron
Rappa my girlfriend
Acheron my wife
I'm a new player, i had feixiao as my 1st dps, i need second dps for content like pure fiction, should i go for rappa or acheron?
herta 👍
Acheron is good in all content not just Pure Fiction, she's a better investment as a new player especially since you kinda really want Ruan Mei for Break teams (Rappa) who I am assuming you don't have. Aventurine is rerunning too the next banner and he'll be great for your Feixiao team so make sure you're ready for that.
@@juancholo6608 well, i already had robin and feixiao, so i need to pull aventurine and ahceron, thanks for the info.
@@Evanisya same here, prioritizing Aventurine cause I have no sustain and let's pray I have enough for Acheron
Acheron. But in order for her to be viable to play in PF you need jiaoqiu. You can still go for rappa, but the reason acheron is more preferable is because rappa are locked against imaginary enemies content. Acheron, however, does not
skipen her for my fav girl TINGYUN i already drew like 3 fan arts of her ( ignore my horrible grammar)
No
@@mauriciorosademoraes9209 what you mean “no” 😭?- you gonna stop me?
Guys should i pull for aventurine or acheron i have only one good dps and one good sustain in my account
Depends what dps and sustainer you got. If its a hyper carry id say Aventurine. If its a super break id say acheron. Ideally you want to build your account for options and longevity. (Aventurine might have the most flexible and longevity but you only really need 2 sustainers on your account).
@hellsrecon2758 my good dps is firefly and my good sustainer is Lingsha
nah, still pulling for Rappa, her hotness stats are too high to skip...
E6 Geomon just like that? So low damage 🥶
Now do firefly ik she clears her
Well IMO Acheron still too broken, she crits and ignore weakness
Can we play double break boothill and rappa
Only without sustain probably.
🤞🟣
I dont need rappa
I need ruan mei 😢
Skippa
No way some disco tech reject powercreeping a freaking Emanator
Not jing yuan tho :))
????? where did she powercreep her ??? 😭
are we watching the same video
Strongest DPS of Today vs Strongest DPS in History
Just pull supports 😂
なんで黄泉側ロビンなの？花火のがいいやろ
i think is for 0t
Rappa is so mid for E6 unit
firefly still better
Skippa