Russell Reilly actually it ends where the book ends except there were a few additional pages published only in the UK that covers those events, but most people haven’t read that version and Kubrick himself said that he didn’t know there was an extended version when he made the film.
I got a few to consider: Scottie - Vertigo Private Joker - Full Metal Jacket Jason Dixon - Three Billboards Andy Dufrense - Shawshank Redemption William Munny - Unforgiven Chiron - Moonlight The Kids - Stand By Me
in the clockwork orange book, alex actually does become a good person, he wants to be married, he matures basically. the film ending is in the book, but the film implies he cannot be cured, whereas in the book, he is cured, and it is quite inspirational.
A similar deconstruction in an adaptation would be Lav Diaz' somewhat loose adaptation of Dostoyevsky's Crime and Punishment called Norte, the End of History, in which the protagonist's torment over his intellectually-inspired violent actions causes him to descend even further towards darkness and loss of identity rather than be persuaded to confess and seek redemption.
+DeathCreationist Maybe I should but I feel like in this "universe", being a bad guy is fun and a good thing. So him becoming good is bad, you know ? A bit hard to explain... I had so much fun watching the film (really... not joking...) and I'm sure that is what Kubrick wanted. A dark comedy. Yet, the only funny scene you have are before the Ludovico experiment.
This video is amazing, but there is a simple mistake when introducing the film Wild Strawberries. The narrator says its #5. The text presented says its #4. Don't worry. I am a mistake myself.
If I had to add an eleventh category (and I love that each number in all of their lists is more like separate categories as opposed to true rankings but that's a whole different conversation), I would add a category for arcs of healing. Like a character coming to terms with someone's death or other terrible life circumstances. I would nominate the arc of Shin-ae Lee in Secret Sunshine. It's a Korean movie that follows a young widow as she moves to her dead husband's hometown and another tragedy strikes. It doesn't follow the traditional three act narrative structure, but is still incredibly moving. I would highly recommend it to anyone looking for a good arc of a tragic, flawed character.
Manic Rhymes I’m sorry that my opinion doesn’t match up with yours but don’t insult me because you don’t agree with me. Rather than insulting me how about you present a counter argument?
My top 10 without looking first: Mulholland Drive - Betty/Dianne Schindler's List- Oscar To Kill a Mockingbird- Scout The Graduate- Benjamin The Breakfast Club- The whole cast Requiem for a Dream- Sara The Umbrellas of Cherbourg- Guy and Genevieve The Deer Hunter- Michael Scarface- Tony La Femme Nakita- Nakita
By far my favorite “reluctant hero” is the underrated performance by Tom Cruise and Rain Man. He goes from a total asshole who only wants to use his brother to gain wealth, to someone who really cares about him. And he does it with such nuance and subtlety that you don’t even find a moment where it changes. But Dustin Hoffman‘s one trick pony took the Oscar. Go figure.
I also thought of: • The Beast in Beauty and the Beast • Daniel Plainview in There Will Be Blood • Josh Baskin in Big • Frank Lucas in American Gangster • Eve Harrington in All About Eve • Melvin Udall in As Good As It Gets
@@aslan9334 WatchMojo is made with the sole purpose of making money. There's no soul in their content, only what the analytics tell them Will generate the most views
@@aslan9334 they are totally soulles and tasteless and most of the time they make lists about things that are absolutely uninteresting of impossible to rank in the first place.
+VB MUTT def thought John Nash would've been on here but I guess they didn't feature it because he was an actual person? Either way I agree with what you're saying.
Mark Woollon I mean his STORY has an arc been he's the same guy with the same moral standards the entire time. His allegiances change but because they conflict with his character and mortality. Unless i'm missing something because I haven't seen the movie in a few years.
Thanks for curating the best film lists on the internet. You guys deserve all the praise you can get for crafting not perfect lists but lists that are a thrill and an education to agree, disagree, and lengthen our already multitudinous films-to-see lists with
Wow. Gena Rowlands. That was a surprising inclusion on the list. Not surprising in that holy hell she nailed that part and it's one of the most harrowing ever to watch, but surprising in that I never thought I'd see a mention of it on TH-cam. Gena did an amazing job. And you guys do a great job with your lists.
I love the way you at CineFix talk about cinema. As the art form it is. Not just the franchise driven medium it has become. You make me want to watch every movie on this list (again) because of the way you simply honour them for being the works they are. Really great!
Loved that you included :Grave of the Fireflies" by Miyazaki. It was just for a millisecond but this film is so good. Its one of those few movies where I don't just remember when I watched it for the first time but exactly how I felt during almost every scene
Walter White in Breaking Bad for the greatest TV show that showed the rise & fall, a good guy rise to power, and that power consumes him while destroying everything around him.. Would ppl consider that a great character study as well?
Breaking Bad was not about a raise and fall it was about an identity crisis. At the very end of the series Walter admitted that he liked being a drug king pin confirming that Heisenberg, his alter ego, was who he really was or wanted to be all along.
yes the movie left out the last chapter of the book which makes a whole lot of difference in interpretation, but i don't mind because the movie's ending is still great
You guys don't just make lists; you elegantly and masterfully break down each film in a way that scholars would envy. Everyone that does these CineFix videos obviously has some training in true film critiquing. Thank for another wonderful video.
This comment section: 40% People bludgeoning Boyhood. 20% People praising Cinefix. 15% People complaining about film placement. 10% People mocking Boyhood. 10% People annoyed with The Godfather and Citizen Kane. 4.5% People comparing Alex DeLange in the film to the book. 0.5% People who actually wholeheartedly liked the list.
In my own comment I suggested Dogville and Dancer in the Dark which both have female protagonists and I saw someone else rightfully mentioning Black Swan which also made me think of Girl, Interrupted for even two female main characters!
Counterpoint: I still enjoy Watchmojo. Yes, when it comes to dissecting movies, there is really no comparison between Watchmojo and Cinefix, but that's like comparing the clothing selections of Wal Mart to that of Macy's. Of course Macy's is better, but you can't also buy all your groceries at Macy's. Watchmojo has a good selection of lists that have nothing to to with movies.
This video introduced me to Five Easy Pieces (I luckily thought to mute the video for the spoiler parts of the analysis) and it’s now one of my all time favorite films, so thank you so much for introducing it to me. As a film lover, Cinefix is one of my favorite channels here on TH-cam and I always light up when I see a new video in my inbox. Love you guys ❤️🧡💛💚💙💜
Boyhood's fault is that too many people saw it. It fell into the mainstream. Cuz it is similar to Before Sunrise in that, nothing really happens, nothing overly out of the ordinary. I love both but I think that Before Sunrise gets a lot less hate cuz lesser people saw it. It is possible that I am overestimating internet hate.
I have IMDB open on another tab everytime I watch a cinefix list and I'm constantly adding more movies to that watchlist! I love you guys, keep up the great work!
Edward Norton's character arc as Tyler Durden is my personal favorite. I also think Donnie Darko and Christopher McCandless are two very underrated choices as well.
I have never seen Casablanca all the way through. I try to stay away from movies that have what I would see as an unhappy ending. This is the first time I ever heard it explained in a way that makes me understand why he tells her to go, and why she does. Wow. Thanks.
I really wish Daniel Plainview from There Will Be Blood could have been at least mentioned. His arch was absolutely fascinating. Daniel Day Lewis once again blew my mind.
I believe you should have included the Clint Eastwood character from Gran Torino... his "evolution" was pretty heart warming and to my opinion ,masterfully presented !!! awesome list by the way !
Man, I get chills everytime I watch that final scene with Jules. "The truth is - *you're* the *weak*, and I'm the tyranny of evil men..." Oo, wow. What makes it even more intense is the subtext when he says "I'm trying Ringo; I'm trying real hard..." (to not shoot yo' ass right now) lol, at least that's what I got out of it.
The best part about Michael Fassbender's character in Shame is that you don't know if he actually changes in the end. He is confronted with a situation, and then the audience has to decide if he has changed or not. Michael Fassbender is an amazing actor, and his performance in Shame is one of his best
hmmm. I'd be hesitant to agree, but Jules deserves a spot simply for how iconic his lines are and how much of a likeable character he is, without even considering his moral transformation.
The first time I watched A Clockwork Orange was when I borrowed my brothers blu ray copy of it, and when I finished watching it, I hit the wrong button and it played the film again, so I watched it again. I didn’t realize at the time how perfect that was.
So nice to see Un Prophète to get a shout, even if it didn't make the list. Such an underrated masterpiece of modern crime film. The development of the main character is truly one of the most interesting depicted in cinema in a long time.
I'd have had to include The Fountain at number 4 - Tomas/Tommy/Tom's arc from struggling angrily against the inevitability of death to understanding and embracing that it's what gives life its richness and meaning.
Bud white in LA Confidential in LA Confidential. He hates Ed Exley with a passion and, in fact is going to beat him to a pulp for sleeping with his girlfriend. And while he's kicking his ass Exley is trying to reason with him and let him know that the chief is corrupt and killed jack and others. And he stops mid beat down because of his sense of moral justice and beciase he know that Exley is telling the truth and that he was being played. And solving the case is more important than his beef with Exley. And he then uses his rage to take on the corrupt cops. Loved his character.
Lovely list, as always. But I am surprised how the list missed, and surprisingly, I don't see many people mentioning it, the category of a villain/antagonist. There are villains who have had wonderful arcs, and should have been a wonderful point to explore.
CineFix I don't know if you guys read these comments but truly, thank you. I'm doing a film degree and am so insanely sick of French philosophers' ideas about cinema spectatorship... by focusing on plot and character you remind me why I love cinema XX
he's completely selfish and obsessed with obtaining money and status early on...the only thing that changes is that he actually does get those things that bring about his downfall. He's the same kind of a guy he was from the start
I really enjoyed this. I loved that u guys don't stick to popular and overrated films but put some real thought into the subject and opened the world of film for everyone. There r several movies I'm going to check out now just from watching this video. Thanx
First of all, I love the videos you all put out. Personally, one of my favorite character arcs in film is Daniel Plainview's rise to power/descent into depravity in There Will Be Blood.
Boyhood is a marvelous film and an unprecedented work of art. Anyone who says otherwise has no clue of what he's talking about. Impeccable list, as always.
this is probably the video i watch the most while scripting my first movie and it's helping a lot, all of your vids are, keep up the great work! i am apssionate about joseph campbell's hero's journey, chris volger's as far as movies are concerned, and have studied and worked on it loads in the past. REQUEST: i would love for you to make another video, all specifically explaining this theory with a top list on examples of it in movies, each her's step, a different example.
When I saw Wild Strawberries in the list, Ikiru immediately came to mind. Course, there is already a Kurosawa film in the list, so I'm fine with it not being included.
#3 ...attempt after attempt at the lives of him and his family wear away at his moral fiber until what’s left is the most ruthless and powerful man in organized crime and probably the greatest rise to power put on film. That’s beautifully put, almost poetic. I would turn that sentence around, ending on « moral fiber ». But, technicalities aside, a compelling video. Bravo!
At the risk of having my degree taken away, I would say the modern redemption arc is typified by Tony Stark. His entire character arc, over many films and many extreme situations, is the obsessive need to redeem himself in some way, to make right what he did wrong. He was all that was wrong with American society -- profiting from war, finding ways to disengage himself from the consequences of his family's choices -- and in a way he was exactly what American society needed to see as it grappled with questions of torture and drone strikes and the scars of atrocity. He redeemed himself and then some, continuing to be so self-sacrificial that it almost became pathological, and he showed how guilt can torment man until his dying moments. It wasn't just that he tried to sacrifice himself for his past wrongs, he tried to torture himself for them -- the self-flagellation of T.E. Lawrence ramped up to 100. It was a beautiful and sad and complex arc in the midst of fun, blockbuster film.
you guys are the best!!!!!!!!!! keep the great work up!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! plz do for top ten: 1) music scores 2) comedy characters 3) sequels 4) franchises 5) cameos 6) musicals
This is the only top 10 series that actually has good reasoning behind every choice.
Right? Instead of most who just say "this is better so it's at this spot", they always give detailed excellent top ten lists
These guys are true cinephiles. I just wish I had the time to watch all the movies on those lists... There are about 50 per video, it's crazy!
It really helps that they give honorable mentions for every spot/category too.
I know right! Finally a list that doesnt just parrot the names popular movies
No
I never realized that Jules' storyline is the only linear arc in Pulp Fiction. Mind is blown.
Watchmojo would have chosen Shrek for #1.
hahaha or Transformers
Would have*
would HAVE!
Have!!!!!
Nah, they gonna choose Darth Vader since they are Star Wars fanboys.
I'm a simple man, I see Alex DeLarge, I click the like button
Then I guess I'm a simple man too, I think he's one of the best characters ever created my brothers! Real horror-show.
wow what a mood
But in the clockwork orange book little Alex does grow up and decide to settle down.....The movie finishes about 3 pages earlier than the book.
Me too 😂💜
Russell Reilly actually it ends where the book ends except there were a few additional pages published only in the UK that covers those events, but most people haven’t read that version and Kubrick himself said that he didn’t know there was an extended version when he made the film.
The diner scene in Pulp Fiction gives me chills every time, Sam Jackson's delivery is perfect.
All of his deliveries in everything are perfect.
he's perfect in that
+Jim even mace freaking windu?
kaiserhuangful Stop making things up, you heathen.
Samuel Mother Fucking Jackson is a great actor!
I got a few to consider:
Scottie - Vertigo
Private Joker - Full Metal Jacket
Jason Dixon - Three Billboards
Andy Dufrense - Shawshank Redemption
William Munny - Unforgiven
Chiron - Moonlight
The Kids - Stand By Me
YES private joker!
Yea I was going to say Full Metal Jacket too
Really moonlight? That movie is garbage
@@maciek8159 I hope you said that after actually watching it
Davis- 12 Angry Men
Hands-down, this is one of the best channels on TH-cam.
very true
These guys literally made a top 10 Westerns video with Star Wars as #1. That alone kicks them out of the top 50!
@@koustavchatterjee8645 one bad video doesn't ruin the entire channel. At least for sensible people
Or one of the worst, if you really think about it.
@@koustavchatterjee8645 link to that video?
Me: "I wonder if...."
*Beethoven's 9th starts playing
Me: "YES!!!"
in the clockwork orange book, alex actually does become a good person, he wants to be married, he matures basically. the film ending is in the book, but the film implies he cannot be cured, whereas in the book, he is cured, and it is quite inspirational.
A similar deconstruction in an adaptation would be Lav Diaz' somewhat loose adaptation of Dostoyevsky's Crime and Punishment called Norte, the End of History, in which the protagonist's torment over his intellectually-inspired violent actions causes him to descend even further towards darkness and loss of identity rather than be persuaded to confess and seek redemption.
Meh...he becomes a good guy... That's probably why I don't like that ending...
The french Timelord the ending is less soft than you think, it's written perfectly, you should read the book it is so good and opens your mind.
+DeathCreationist Maybe I should but I feel like in this "universe", being a bad guy is fun and a good thing. So him becoming good is bad, you know ? A bit hard to explain... I had so much fun watching the film (really... not joking...) and I'm sure that is what Kubrick wanted. A dark comedy. Yet, the only funny scene you have are before the Ludovico experiment.
The french Timelord I get what you mean, bad guys are cool, but it's only when they affect you they are suddenly bad and not cool lol.
I think nina's descent into madness in Black Swan should have gotten an honorable mention in #2
i wholeheartedly agree
True actually!
I was waiting for her mention too
This video is amazing, but there is a simple mistake when introducing the film Wild Strawberries. The narrator says its #5. The text presented says its #4.
Don't worry. I am a mistake myself.
+Matt Post You're not a mistake because I love you bebe
And then The Godfather is narrated as number 3, then listed as number 5.
Search the word serendipity.
Self-consciously sweet of you
Way to earn yourself a fan club, Matt Post.
We love you.
If I had to add an eleventh category (and I love that each number in all of their lists is more like separate categories as opposed to true rankings but that's a whole different conversation), I would add a category for arcs of healing. Like a character coming to terms with someone's death or other terrible life circumstances. I would nominate the arc of Shin-ae Lee in Secret Sunshine. It's a Korean movie that follows a young widow as she moves to her dead husband's hometown and another tragedy strikes. It doesn't follow the traditional three act narrative structure, but is still incredibly moving. I would highly recommend it to anyone looking for a good arc of a tragic, flawed character.
You've done cinematography, directing, sound design...but not editing itself. You should do that.
And I'm not talking about moments, I'm talking about how editing can give something to the entire movie.
You should visit Every Frame a Painting, thank me later :D
F for Fake no.1 without a doubt...
Ironically, its another movie directed by Orson Welles :P
couldn't agree more
+Deni Peacemaker What if they collaborated on a top ten?
Still waiting for the "Top 10 so bad that they are good" movies list.
Number one easily the room
Michael Peck I mean, revenge of the Sith is probably 4th in the Saga (Personal Opinion) and The Phantom Menace has some good moments
...like Demolition Man???
@@sharko3211 you know nothing of cinema
Manic Rhymes I’m sorry that my opinion doesn’t match up with yours but don’t insult me because you don’t agree with me. Rather than insulting me how about you present a counter argument?
My top 10 without looking first:
Mulholland Drive - Betty/Dianne
Schindler's List- Oscar
To Kill a Mockingbird- Scout
The Graduate- Benjamin
The Breakfast Club- The whole cast
Requiem for a Dream- Sara
The Umbrellas of Cherbourg- Guy and Genevieve
The Deer Hunter- Michael
Scarface- Tony
La Femme Nakita- Nakita
😎
By far my favorite “reluctant hero” is the underrated performance by Tom Cruise and Rain Man. He goes from a total asshole who only wants to use his brother to gain wealth, to someone who really cares about him. And he does it with such nuance and subtlety that you don’t even find a moment where it changes. But Dustin Hoffman‘s one trick pony took the Oscar. Go figure.
I agree. I think time has corrected that error and Cruise is getting the recognition he deserved.
Yes. It's worth lots and lots.
Toshiro Mifune in Seven Samurai is my favorite performance of all time. Kikuchiyo is an excellent character. Thanks for giving him props!
I just watched it yesterday. What a beautiful man.
Truly
I also thought of:
• The Beast in Beauty and the Beast
• Daniel Plainview in There Will Be Blood
• Josh Baskin in Big
• Frank Lucas in American Gangster
• Eve Harrington in All About Eve
• Melvin Udall in As Good As It Gets
Jake Deines Jake Hoyt in Training Day.
Lol Daniel started the movie as a psychopath and ended it as a psychopath. He didn’t change a bit
Aryavir Sangwan flat arc?
@@aryavirsangwan6837 Daniel wasn't a psychopath in the beginning. He was manipulative sure, but he was not a psychopath.
these Cineflix top 10s are without a dubt the best lists on youtube, well thought out and great subjects.
I came here for the watchmojo hate
WatchMojo sux
I don't understand the Mojo hate!
@@aslan9334 WatchMojo is made with the sole purpose of making money. There's no soul in their content, only what the analytics tell them Will generate the most views
@@aslan9334 they are totally soulles and tasteless and most of the time they make lists about things that are absolutely uninteresting of impossible to rank in the first place.
A very useful video for writers who are just starting out. Great job!
Boyhood is one of my favourite movies and I'm so glad it's getting recognition on this channel
#1 is Charles Foster Kane, I'm calling it now
I'm not the one to judge a cinefix list but they should have given an HM to John Nash (Russell Crowe) A Beautiful Mind or even Maximus from Gladiator
If someone had to beat T.E Lawrence I'm glad it was Kane.
+VB MUTT def thought John Nash would've been on here but I guess they didn't feature it because he was an actual person? Either way I agree with what you're saying.
How does Maximus have a character arc?
Mark Woollon I mean his STORY has an arc been he's the same guy with the same moral standards the entire time. His allegiances change but because they conflict with his character and mortality. Unless i'm missing something because I haven't seen the movie in a few years.
Thanks for curating the best film lists on the internet. You guys deserve all the praise you can get for crafting not perfect lists but lists that are a thrill and an education to agree, disagree, and lengthen our already multitudinous films-to-see lists with
Wow. Gena Rowlands. That was a surprising inclusion on the list. Not surprising in that holy hell she nailed that part and it's one of the most harrowing ever to watch, but surprising in that I never thought I'd see a mention of it on TH-cam. Gena did an amazing job. And you guys do a great job with your lists.
Shocking they’d include a woman at all.
I love the way you at CineFix talk about cinema. As the art form it is. Not just the franchise driven medium it has become. You make me want to watch every movie on this list (again) because of the way you simply honour them for being the works they are. Really great!
Loved that you included :Grave of the Fireflies" by Miyazaki. It was just for a millisecond but this film is so good. Its one of those few movies where I don't just remember when I watched it for the first time but exactly how I felt during almost every scene
For the redemption arc, I'm surprised you didn't mention Ebenezer Scrooge.
Yess, I feel like people completely forgot about his arc.
Probably because there’s way to many versions of the tale, that it’s hard to pick one.
@@osmanyousif7849 one book.
Love that Barry Lyndon got a shout out. I adore the movie.
I think this is a totally engrossing and well presented piece. It makes me want to watch all of these again.
Walter White in Breaking Bad for the greatest TV show that showed the rise & fall, a good guy rise to power, and that power consumes him while destroying everything around him.. Would ppl consider that a great character study as well?
They can make a TV show version for that.
I was thinking of that as well, but they're only talking about movies here so...
Lisa Galarza yea, I know.. just thought it was a good comparison- if they ever have one on TV shows, that would be a good one to add.
Breaking Bad was not about a raise and fall it was about an identity crisis. At the very end of the series Walter admitted that he liked being a drug king pin confirming that Heisenberg, his alter ego, was who he really was or wanted to be all along.
abc64pan I can agree, but we did see the rise and fall of a character in that, as well, am I right?
where is zuko
Arguably the most flawless character arc of all time but that's tv my friend
Exactly
Hunting down the avatar to regain his honor
and azula’s downward arc
that's rough buddy
It's funny because in the end of the book A Clockwork Orange, Alex does change
I am SO glad someone else pointed this out lmao
yeah i was wondering the same thing lol
yes the movie left out the last chapter of the book which makes a whole lot of difference in interpretation, but i don't mind because the movie's ending is still great
And it's so important for the message the book is trying to put across.
+João de Arruda Campos Cardoso Only the American version was changed, omitting the last chapter
You guys don't just make lists; you elegantly and masterfully break down each film in a way that scholars would envy. Everyone that does these CineFix videos obviously has some training in true film critiquing. Thank for another wonderful video.
OMG, that pun in Casablanca. As time goes by. (: made me smile for some reason
what is the first movie title at #2?
"Aguirre, the Wrath of God," dir. Werner Herzog.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aguirre,_the_Wrath_of_God
@@vinvanveen dude.....he asked 5 years ago
@@ponchopibetter late then never
@@RaidenJohnClarke fair
Your explaination of the Clockwork Orange makes sense, his arc goes back to where it was, just like a how a clock works in it's title.
descent to madness should be Jack Nicholson in the shining
Nikhil Bhagat *Nicholson
That movie was more about writers block
Well yea, they even said it was the perfect example but didn’t put it because they already had a Nicholson role on the list
@@davidbrockmeier9538 Not really.
He was already mad
This comment section:
40% People bludgeoning Boyhood.
20% People praising Cinefix.
15% People complaining about film placement.
10% People mocking Boyhood.
10% People annoyed with The Godfather and Citizen Kane.
4.5% People comparing Alex DeLange in the film to the book.
0.5% People who actually wholeheartedly liked the list.
this is the only list from Cinefix in which I've seen all the movies 👍
What about the % of people ripping into WatchMojo?
What about the percent that complains about what other people comment?
Maxx Kroes Wow. I was meaning to entertain. Obviously you weren't. If you don't have nothin' nice to say don't say anything.
+Maxx Kroes Shut the fuck up.
Nice list. It kind of exposes what a lack of dynamic women we have in film though, doesn't it?
get chloe
In some movies they are but otherwise they are just supporting characters quite unfortanley
In my own comment I suggested Dogville and Dancer in the Dark which both have female protagonists and I saw someone else rightfully mentioning Black Swan which also made me think of Girl, Interrupted for even two female main characters!
@@maocharlisme oh! golly! two!! in one movie? a miracle!! lmao
Truth, about women in film. But I have a few screenplays that might change all of that.
My favourite character arc is Lou Bloom from Nightcrawler
that was a disturbingly good movie, honestly. LOL
Counterpoint: I still enjoy Watchmojo. Yes, when it comes to dissecting movies, there is really no comparison between Watchmojo and Cinefix, but that's like comparing the clothing selections of Wal Mart to that of Macy's. Of course Macy's is better, but you can't also buy all your groceries at Macy's. Watchmojo has a good selection of lists that have nothing to to with movies.
Feel the Bern 2020! I actually completely agree with you
Hell yeah well put
Wow.. I A..greE wIth yoU surprisingly
I agree that Watchmojo have a wider variety, but it is so quantity over quality with them
I enjoy both too!
Great list and very good #10 pick. Seven Samurai is in my opinion one of the greatest films ever made.
This video introduced me to Five Easy Pieces (I luckily thought to mute the video for the spoiler parts of the analysis) and it’s now one of my all time favorite films, so thank you so much for introducing it to me. As a film lover, Cinefix is one of my favorite channels here on TH-cam and I always light up when I see a new video in my inbox. Love you guys ❤️🧡💛💚💙💜
I would say chicken Brent from cloudy with a chance of meatballs
I love how the first 10 films you show are the top 10 list in order
Boyhood's fault is that too many people saw it. It fell into the mainstream. Cuz it is similar to Before Sunrise in that, nothing really happens, nothing overly out of the ordinary. I love both but I think that Before Sunrise gets a lot less hate cuz lesser people saw it. It is possible that I am overestimating internet hate.
awesome420ication i was stoked for it but i felt like the acting was atrocious.
I have IMDB open on another tab everytime I watch a cinefix list and I'm constantly adding more movies to that watchlist! I love you guys, keep up the great work!
Edward Norton's character arc as Tyler Durden is my personal favorite. I also think Donnie Darko and Christopher McCandless are two very underrated choices as well.
"And as time goes by..." Great choice of words. 👍🏻
The soldiers from Apocalypse Now. Evolution of the psyche facing war-made horror.
This is years old at this point, but I can’t see something praising apocalypse now and not visibly agree with it :/
Patricia Arquete's monologue in Boyhood gave me chills the first time I saw it. Amazing character development through the movie...
Gena Rowlands gave the most underrated performance of any actress I have ever seen in "A Woman Under the Influence". Maybe a Thalberg someday...?
I have never seen Casablanca all the way through. I try to stay away from movies that have what I would see as an unhappy ending. This is the first time I ever heard it explained in a way that makes me understand why he tells her to go, and why she does. Wow. Thanks.
I really wish Daniel Plainview from There Will Be Blood could have been at least mentioned. His arch was absolutely fascinating. Daniel Day Lewis once again blew my mind.
I believe you should have included the Clint Eastwood character from Gran Torino... his "evolution" was pretty heart warming and to my opinion ,masterfully presented !!!
awesome list by the way !
Man, I get chills everytime I watch that final scene with Jules.
"The truth is - *you're* the *weak*, and I'm the tyranny of evil men..." Oo, wow.
What makes it even more intense is the subtext when he says "I'm trying Ringo; I'm trying real hard..." (to not shoot yo' ass right now)
lol, at least that's what I got out of it.
I'm just very happy you went with the right choice and picked Michael Corleone. The ending of The Godfather still gives me chills.
Suggestion: Top 10 actors/actresses of all time
too broad of a topic
original
they'd make number 1 the mumbly kid from boyhood
Seeing your avatar, i guess i know what's your pick. LOL
performance is subjective
The best part about Michael Fassbender's character in Shame is that you don't know if he actually changes in the end. He is confronted with a situation, and then the audience has to decide if he has changed or not. Michael Fassbender is an amazing actor, and his performance in Shame is one of his best
First of all, great list. One you missed for reluctant hero; Children of Men
Incredibly unpopular opinion: Boyhood was a brilliant, well-executed triumph of DIRECTING. The only good acting in it, however, was Hawke.
Mr Fox on Fastic mr Fox would have been nice to see on the list too :0
This needed more Wes Anderson. Both Max Fischer and Royal Tenenbaum are better characters with better arcs than Jules from Pulp Fiction.
yess!!
hmmm. I'd be hesitant to agree, but Jules deserves a spot simply for how iconic his lines are and how much of a likeable character he is, without even considering his moral transformation.
+theCreator How iconic and likeable a character isn't relevant to this list though
The first time I watched A Clockwork Orange was when I borrowed my brothers blu ray copy of it, and when I finished watching it, I hit the wrong button and it played the film again, so I watched it again. I didn’t realize at the time how perfect that was.
your thumbnail shows alex, but im not sure he has an 'arc' as more of a circle
also i fucking love your channel
That's exactly what they said in the video
If you complete an arc, it results in a circle.
They cured me alright.
Outstanding list, as always. Loved the Scorcese shoutout.
Kikuchiyo will always be one of my favourite film characters :D
Mark Woollon 100% agree with ya bud
My favorite performance of all time! And one of my favorite characters. So glad it made this list.
Scarface’s Tony Montana would have also been a perfect pick for rise and fall
The first the came to mind for impending death was Johnny Depp from Dead Man. Give Jarmush some love!
My only problem with this channel is it's so good that I'd rather watch it than the movies it lists
what is the movie he can't pronounce?
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Oh wow it’s really not Norm!
Darude - Sandstorm
So happy to see chronicle on this list, the film is seriously underrated but superbly written, acted and filmed
for no. 4 you should've mentioned Visconti's The Leopard
So nice to see Un Prophète to get a shout, even if it didn't make the list. Such an underrated masterpiece of modern crime film. The development of the main character is truly one of the most interesting depicted in cinema in a long time.
Wow, Seven Samurai and Citizen Kane on a Cinefix list. Never saw that coming...
Citizen kane is one of the best films ever made
I've been enjoying your take on cinema goodness for years, thank you so much for sharing
A new addition to this list would be Dixson from Three Billboards
I found out so many new films with all your honourable mentions! I like your top 50!
Hunter x Hunter: Gon and Meruems opposed chareckter developments from human to monster and vice versa
The Chimera Ant Arc is probably the greatest manga/anime of all time. Berserk's Golden Age Arc is just as fantastic
Very well researched, snd fitting choices 🤗
LOVE cinefix, but i'm a huge music guy too. I would love to see top 10 scores of all time. or have they already done it?
I'd have had to include The Fountain at number 4 - Tomas/Tommy/Tom's arc from struggling angrily against the inevitability of death to understanding and embracing that it's what gives life its richness and meaning.
Bud white in LA Confidential in LA Confidential. He hates Ed Exley with a passion and, in fact is going to beat him to a pulp for sleeping with his girlfriend. And while he's kicking his ass Exley is trying to reason with him and let him know that the chief is corrupt and killed jack and others. And he stops mid beat down because of his sense of moral justice and beciase he know that Exley is telling the truth and that he was being played. And solving the case is more important than his beef with Exley. And he then uses his rage to take on the corrupt cops.
Loved his character.
You made me want to watch L.A. Confidential again. ;-)
Lovely list, as always. But I am surprised how the list missed, and surprisingly, I don't see many people mentioning it, the category of a villain/antagonist. There are villains who have had wonderful arcs, and should have been a wonderful point to explore.
I'm glad You included wild strawberries
CineFix I don't know if you guys read these comments but truly, thank you. I'm doing a film degree and am so insanely sick of French philosophers' ideas about cinema spectatorship... by focusing on plot and character you remind me why I love cinema XX
12:50 what about Scarface? It shouldn't have taken the #1 spot, but should've been at least mentioned.
Scarface is the poorman's Godfather
+Loic James McKeever yeah, pretty much.
Al Pacino's character is pretty one-note throughout the movie...he doesn't change, his circumstances do.
+Culprit LA Well, throughout the movie he gradually becomes more selfish and obsessed with money.
he's completely selfish and obsessed with obtaining money and status early on...the only thing that changes is that he actually does get those things that bring about his downfall. He's the same kind of a guy he was from the start
I really enjoyed this. I loved that u guys don't stick to popular and overrated films but put some real thought into the subject and opened the world of film for everyone. There r several movies I'm going to check out now just from watching this video. Thanx
Haha 4:40: "... as time goes by..." -- I see what you did there ;)
First of all, I love the videos you all put out.
Personally, one of my favorite character arcs in film is Daniel Plainview's rise to power/descent into depravity in There Will Be Blood.
Dallas Buyers Club and Gran Torino character growth?
Boyhood is a marvelous film and an unprecedented work of art. Anyone who says otherwise has no clue of what he's talking about. Impeccable list, as always.
Failed to mention Daniel Day Lewis in There Will Be Blood for #1 spot
this is probably the video i watch the most while scripting my first movie and it's helping a lot, all of your vids are, keep up the great work! i am apssionate about joseph campbell's hero's journey, chris volger's as far as movies are concerned, and have studied and worked on it loads in the past. REQUEST: i would love for you to make another video, all specifically explaining this theory with a top list on examples of it in movies, each her's step, a different example.
The main protagonist from Ikuro.
ikiru*
thanks bro.
I was thinking the same thing.
We could chose a lot of Kurosawa's caracters. The main caracter from Ikiru, Stray Dog, High and Low, Rashomon and etc...
When I saw Wild Strawberries in the list, Ikiru immediately came to mind. Course, there is already a Kurosawa film in the list, so I'm fine with it not being included.
#3 ...attempt after attempt at the lives of him and his family wear away at his moral fiber until what’s left is the most ruthless and powerful man in organized crime and probably the greatest rise to power put on film.
That’s beautifully put, almost poetic. I would turn that sentence around, ending on « moral fiber ». But, technicalities aside, a compelling video. Bravo!
At the risk of having my degree taken away, I would say the modern redemption arc is typified by Tony Stark. His entire character arc, over many films and many extreme situations, is the obsessive need to redeem himself in some way, to make right what he did wrong. He was all that was wrong with American society -- profiting from war, finding ways to disengage himself from the consequences of his family's choices -- and in a way he was exactly what American society needed to see as it grappled with questions of torture and drone strikes and the scars of atrocity. He redeemed himself and then some, continuing to be so self-sacrificial that it almost became pathological, and he showed how guilt can torment man until his dying moments. It wasn't just that he tried to sacrifice himself for his past wrongs, he tried to torture himself for them -- the self-flagellation of T.E. Lawrence ramped up to 100. It was a beautiful and sad and complex arc in the midst of fun, blockbuster film.
you guys are the best!!!!!!!!!! keep the great work up!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
plz do for top ten:
1) music scores
2) comedy characters
3) sequels
4) franchises
5) cameos
6) musicals
No REQUIEM FOR A DREAM?? Come on.
keep up the stellar work, cinefix.