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They would have been a dynasty if they stick with both him and Shotty. Marty just needed an aggressive D cordinator to keep him from going to his one flaw the prevent D
I've been a Browns fan for over 45 years and Marty is my favorite Browns coach. His passing really saddens me, we have lost one of the greatest coaches.
I had no idea Marty Schottenheimer died! One day before my 50th birthday. He was the best coach in the NFL that never won a Super Bowl. I was a Chiefs fan in the early '90s when Joe Montana played for them.
Great recap. People forget the circumstances surrounding Brees’ departure from SD, it was complicated. We as the Chargers fanship loved Brees while he was with us and he was a class act dealing with the situation w/Phil. As a Chargers football fan, I celebrated his career the whole way through. ⚡️
I agree. I made similar comments above. It was messy and the GM could have used the 1st round pick to trade for multiple players to make that team a multi-super bowl contender but didn't have the wisdom to see what he had in his possession.
Brees didn't throw temper tantrums or roll his eyes after a int. I seen him mad one time at Jeremy Shockey for blowing his cover and the two went on to pass for a touchdown in a super bowl. Manning and Brady have so much film of their emotions, and to be fair, it's understandable to get upset sometimes, but Brees read the same body language every down. "Going to move these damn chains to that endzone and get 6". No matter the situation. As emotional as it is to play football as a QB, to remain zoned in and stay professional is impressive.
Yep. Only downside is that shoulder injury definitely shortened his prime a little bit. Had he not suffered it (and still been in the league at that point) he probably would’ve had 2, maybe 3 years left before his arm started going out on him.
I remember going to a talk with Purdue football coach Joe Tiller a few weeks before the 2004 draft. Someone asked about Drew, and Coach Tiller said he had spoken to Drew recently, and said in his opinion, the best thing that could happen for Drew would be for the Chargers to pick Eli Manning, and for Drew Brees to get the hell away from that team.
As a Chargers fan! I’m proud that both Brees & Rivers played for my team. In the 2006, when Rivers 1st year as a starter. Some or a lot of Chargers fans that year believe that Rivers is much better then Brees. Then when u looked at both of their entired career. Brees stats ended better then Rivers. I like them both the same.
Great video. I was a Marine living in San Diego when this happened. The Brees injury during a meaningless game rocked the city. Really well done video.
@@RaiderGannon12 And Stan Humphries went to the Super Bowl. He wasn't Dan Fouts or Philip Rivers, but he was pretty good. The Chargers never had a losing record with him until he retired. After he retired, it was the Dark Ages with Ryan Leaf.
A friend of mine who was a good athlete would play pick up soccer games in a park in Austin, Tx. They would choose up sides and there was this little kid that wanted to play. The kid was unstoppable. He went from “ok let the kid play” to “I got first pick I want that kid on my team”. Yep, it was Drew.
The rule of thumb is this, if u draft a 1st round QB and he has 1 good season like drew did, it’s time to build around him and the chargers really kept sabotaging they team. The had no business drafting rivers, the should of got a top wideout to help brees. So if Brees got top wide out, prime LT and prime Antonio Gates.with a line, u not losing against Brady and company. They split the baby and never recovered
That, and the fact that the Chargers never got Brees a dominant defense like Brady had at the beginning of his career, and even throughout most of it. I think the best defense they gave Brees was in 2004 and it was above average, maybe decent. That was enough to get them to 12-4 with what they had on offense. That was in a time period when good/great offenses couldn’t carry an eh at best defense as easily.
That's all because of A.J. Smith. He was a new GM and he didn't draft Brees and wanted to pick his QB of the future but I agree with you 100%. Every time I re-watch the drama from Eli in the 2004 draft, I think about how the Chargers had Drew and really didn't need to draft a QB but it was all because of A.J. Smith
Drew got the last laugh. One of my favorites of all time and this was a big event in the history of the nfl. Marty knew that nobody else knew at the time, He knew Brees was great
I've always been a fan of Drew Brees. I remember wen he was drafted out of Perdue. Many didn't think he would play long and was to short to be a qb. I wonder how those folks feel after his record book career
Chargers drafted LT, Brees, Chargers 2004 draft has to be one of the greatest drafts by a team and it’s never talked about!!! Manning (trade for Rivers which Rivers was better QB), Nate Kaeding, Nick Hardwick, Shaune Phillips, Michael Turner, Wes Welker, Malcom Floyd.
Imagine Drew goes to Miami. Not only would the afc have Brady Brees manning and rivers going at it every year but imagine how different the Pat's would be playing Drew 2 times a year could've been the best football or the biggest bust. Very interesting to contemplate
The rift between Marty and AJ Smith started in the 2003 draft whereas Marty wanted AJ to trade up and get Troy Polamalu. As we know, Smith wound up ignoring Marty's desire for an excellent safety and Smith stayed put and drafted safety Terrence Kiel in the late 2nd round. History tells us Marty was right. Drafting Rivers was not popular with many Chargers fans at the time because many of us believed Brees hadn't been given enough line and receiver talent to truly succeed. Note: As for the 2004 draft, the Chargers got Rivers and some picks, including Merriman and Kaeding (who wound up costing the Bolts playoff wins), the BEST pick there would have been Larry Fitzgerald -- the type of player Brees really needed to thrive at the QB position.
Lmaoooo So John Lynch did to the Chargers, what Aeneas Williams did to the 49ers...when Williams destroyed Steve Youngs throwing shoulder... Interesting video AF... John Lynch changed a franchises trajectory...and, he’s seemingly doing it now, but on a managerial level... Go 9ers!!! Great video bro! Subbed!
Man 1:30 just made me remember how it was only been 20 years since it went from East , West and Central to East, West, South and North divisions lol forget that sliver of time that Brady and Manning were in the same division
As a lifelong Dolphins fan I'll never forget loosing out on Brees, but to be honest I don't blame the organization, nobody knew Drew Brees would be _Drew Brees_ at that time. It didn't take long to look back on it though and wish things had gone differently. Truth is Drew ended up in the perfect place for him though. With that said everyone knows how great Deshaun Watson is and if we don't go all in to get him I'm going to be pissed.
Terrell suggs wasnt drafter yet. Baltimores linebackers were ray lewus, peter boulware, jamie sharper i think from virginia. Defensive line was mike McCrary rob burnett were ends, tony siragusa sam adams dt. Cbs duan starks and chris mccallister. Safetys were rod woodson and burnett.
AJ needed to STFU. It was Marty's team. Let the coach do his job. You just get him players!!!! It cost SD possibly 2 SB's. As a Charger fan to go from Brees to Rivers to Herbert, It doesn't get better than that. #MartyBall Yoi said it. To one of my favorite coaches of all time. #RIPCoachMarty
I've been a Chargers fan since 1982. A.J. Smith was a shit bag. I remember all the stuff in this video. Painful memories... 😢 I often wonder what would have happened had the Chargers drafted Michael Vick. I like to imagine Vick would have learned to surf rather than bankroll a dogfighting kennel. Hey, a guy can dream!
Down the stretch in that first starting season, the Chargers were signing guys from the super market to start on their o line. A.J Smith destroyed the same team he help build.
Brees was great in playoffs even with chargers. They were a better team Rivers took over, but rivers would screw them by becoming pic city 0 td in playoffs.
Coach/QB chemistry. That's what matters. Sean Payton saw something in Brees. He knew he could work with Brees. Same for Jameis Winston the turnover machine. He came to New Orleans killing it until injury. Certain coaches just know how to utilize talent.
Drew Brees is an all time great but hearing one of the Saints players this year say Brady was number 2 behind Brees was hilarious. I understand you gotta be withyout QB but you also gotta be realistic.
I don’t think it’s that big of a difference. Hell Brees did what he did with his small stature, above average arm strength at best, and his shoulder injury. All without a pro bowl WR until 2017. Most, if not all of the QBs at the top of the list in career stats had at least 1 HOF WR, and some had multiple. Brees will likely go down with none. Even if MT does make the HOF, he came at the end of Brees’ prime. The only big difference between those two are wins and championships and that’s on the organization and coaching, not a single player. It didn’t help that the organization he went to and spent most of his career on had 1 playoff win in almost 4 decades of existence before his time there.
Drew still has a couple years. He just needs to heal up this off-season. Big ben looks pretty rough. He needs a shot of cocaine or something to get him off the viagra
@@tayybhaddasz4137 ?? It think the point went waaay over your head. The point is Tom Brady had already won 3 super bowls before Brees even established himself as a starting QB. I don't think Brady is concerned with Brees having one whole Superbowl title. Brees has been in the NFC for 14 years and has as many SB championships in the NFC as Brady does after one year.
@@hogndog2339 Marty was the best coach they ever had and they fired him. The year after he was fired the Chargers started going downhill. Marty’s problem is he always had bad luck in the playoffs.
I don’t think Rivers is HOF. I honestly think the NFL is just putting so much hype into the 2004 draft so they can close the gap between the 1983 draft as the greatest QB classes.
@@gregoryfuller9736 nah, his release was actually totally understandable at the time. I actually have the same shoulder injury as him and the outlook is pretty grim. Who could have predicted that'd he'd come back stronger than ever? He didn't reach his prime until he got to NO. Nobody saw that shit coming. Also, what luck that Rivers turned out to be the HOF qb he is. In the end it really did kinda work out for everybody, as he said. Chargers are pretty doomed tho, unless the ownership changes
@@conorobrien1025 yup! If I remember correctly, they thought shoulder injury would end his career as a QB! Definitely wouldn’t have thought Brees would be Brees!
Like I said Chargers too me did a poor job in comparison to the Saints when it came to Offensive line. Especially when Evans and Nicks were on their game. Not mention prisoner Darren Sharper was just incredible at football but bad at life I guess.
The ripple affect from this was amazing, If Dolphins sign Brees instead of Dante Culpepper now Nick Saban doesn’t leave Miami and Alabama and Patriots are viewed very differently
@@hanspennyloaf335 nick saban wanted brees back then. his team doctor didnt okay the decision. one of the reasons he went back to college he said in an interview. He felt like he didnt have control of the team.
@@marcelopierre7330 Saban and Brees wouldnt have been able to stop Brady and Belichick. Brees is an all timr great but the very real fact of the matter is that a significant amount of his success in New Orleans was due to him be paired with one of the best offensive minds the sport has ever seen in Sean Payton.
If the Chargers traded a young Phillip Rivers they would've gotten a haul in return and became a potentially dynastic franchise with Ladainian Tomlinson, Antonio Gates, and a great defense. At least 1 ring. Biggest mistake of their franchise looking back.
@@bryantdixon8918 it's hard to say that in the moment. A lot of players dont bounce back from injury and drew was injured as his contract expired. Rivers was still on a rookie contract and untested so teams may not have paid out as much for him, maybe a 1st rounder is all he would have gotten. Given rivers didnt do shit in the play offs and rarely made it there with all the talent that surrounded them, the chargers got little out of him for how much they paid him to win it all.
@@docsylva2876 I mean you have a point, the rules have changed, but QBs can still be tackled, there’s still pressure for the QB because if the line rushes them he can still get tackled for a loss of yards they’re just protecting the QB from getting absolutely obliterated in the pocket or tackled when he already threw the ball, it still takes skill, you’re still rushed for time, they just don’t have equipment that protects from the brutality that the sport used to have But make no mistake, QBs still get their asses kicked today, especially the ones who like to rush like Robert griffin III or Michael Vick, they suffered many injuries leaving the pocket and getting ran over trying to run for that first down. I don’t think that rule change is absolutely a terrible thing, although players do choose to take that risk themselves when they join up
I'm a lifelong Lions fan. Even though I refuse to watch the games and haven't followed the team for years for obvious reasons. But when people say the lions are the Lions and they will never win, I immediately respond with New Orleans Saints. Get the right coach and the right quarterback and you can win. Look at The Saints. Drew Brees and Sean Payton completely turned that franchise around.
For the record Nick Saban wanted Drew Brees and the training staff would not pass him on his physical. The chargers just didn't want him, Saban wanted Brees and was furious when the training staff did not pass him for his physical.
Oh and one more thing I'm from Michigan obviously cuz of The Lions (FML) and I'm a die-hard Michigan fan I saw Drew Brees play at Purdue a lot because I'm in Big Ten country and anyone that watched Big Ten teams knew Brees was good before he even got to San Diego. I love Drew Brees. One of the greatest competitors I've ever seen.
@@Qovas1 Are you referring to the fact ALL our teams pick in The top 5 of the draft every year? Or that we haven't beat OSU in 2 decades? Hurting isn't the word. Bored out of my mind would be more accurate.
Drew came to a broken city with a historically horrible organization as far as performance. Recruiters tried to show him all the nice pretty repaired parts, when he saw one of the more damaged areas of the city he knew he wanted to be there. He means so much to the city of New Orleans and to the entire state.
I was telling someone today that in 100 years people in New Orleans will STILL be wearing Brees jerseys to games. He means so much to the people in this city its insane.
@@justinlacey6437 I mean he and the Saints literally brought a completely broken city back to form. Shit may still not be fully rebuilt around here, but this team brought the hurting people back together and let people forget about shit for a while. Brought people something to be happy about. I truly don't know what New Orleans would be without Brees coming to the Saints but the city will forever be grateful and will always have one of the best fanbases in the NFL.
@@jdwildcat4823 bro flutie is underrated. Yea no one expected much from him but if you look at his complete career in the nfl and canadian football, its impressive
@@xilencered7788 plus as an experienced undersized QB he was instrumental in helping Brees learn to navigate the pocket as a smaller player and Brees talks all the time about how much Flutie helped him.
@@jdwildcat4823 Flutie was a better QB than what you think. He wasn't given the chance or the offense. He was always brought in on struggling teams and then when he turned them around, they brought in a younger QB that would ride the victory, a la Buffalo.
@@jdwildcat4823 Guess what happened to Flutie flakes (I say that with sincere respect) after the Chargers cut him? A conniving and evil genius head coach by the name of Belichek picked him up! So Belichek saw his value but we're supposed to value your opinion? A random negative comment guy on TH-cam? Hahahaha
Cowher and Roethlisberger were given an opportunity to redeem themselves in 2005, after getting their asses kicked by New England in the 2004 AFC Championship game at home. I have no doubt that, following a 15-1 season that ended badly, Dean Spanos would have fired Cowher and replaced him with Norv Turner or someone else who had no business being a head coach. Especially since that was Cowher's fourth AFC Championship game loss at home. That's the difference between stable and unstable ownership. The Chargers are on their fourth head coach since firing Marty following the 2006 season. The Steelers have had three head coaches since 1969.
The Chargers have been and will always be dysfunctional. It’s sad to see my favorite team dismantling every single season. Fired a great coach to hire norv turner.
As bad as Norv was, Mike McCoy was even worse. Frank Reich was the ultimate scapegoat for McCoy, and he ended up winning the Super Bowl almost IMMEDIATELY after getting fired. Tom Telesco is pretty good though. Herbert is a stud, and unlike 2013, Telesco isn't spending 5 years cleaning up the mess left behind by AJ Smith.
Marty was a football guy who understood his players. Guy turned around Cleveland, Kansas city and San Diego. He may never have won a super bowl but the guy never feared going to the most dreadful teams and succeeded in terms of winning.
Yes!!!! Marty took us from being an absolute joke into a damn good football team. After all that losing it was so nice to actually wins more that we lost. Charger fan since birth until the day they left SD.
I like it when someone posts something completely false then mutes people so there cannot be a response because they know that they don't know what they are talking about or make false claims lol. GJ Syed Ahmed lmao.
People always bag on Rivers for not winning a ring with LT, Gates, Vincent Jackson etc. Brees couldnt get it done either. This office and ownership are bafoons, take note of how their move to LA went haha
@@bobshenix i don't care for rivers but saying he is borderline his whole career is just dumb, how are you going to say that to future hall of famer? you can't unless its bs falling out your mouth... man i don't even like rivers and I'm backing him up but it's facts
@@clark2501 i may be a sad san diego fan who feels doomed but I dont think hed be a hall of fame quality qb if the chargers kept him. He didnt exactly wow while he was here. And Sean Peyton wasnt moving to San Diego anytime soon.
As a Raiders fan, I remember those teams and they were pretty damn good. Especially when Drew became the full time starter before Rivers started full time. Antonio Gates was a beast too
Chargers fucked up. Not so much on Drew Brees but firing Marty was the dumbest decision and they paid for it with 15 years of mediocre teams with a high level QB. (not great, possibly because he wasn’t surrounded by greatness)
Clasher Sports Marty was a great coach but always got way too conservative in the payoffs. One team that comes to Mind was his KC that lost to the Colts 10-7 after a 13-3 season
Man, this feels like forever ago, this was when I first started watching football, it seems like it was destiny for Brees to get hurt so he and Rivers could go on their own paths of success, also I didn't realize Marty Schottenheimer died, RIP
Dude samesies, my first game was in San Diego vs. the Chiefs- the crowd was chanting BRING BACK BREES haha. Feels kinda neat to have physically been a part of this story.
Everything happened the way it was supposed to. It worked out really well for the Saints. We got the best QB in franchise history, a Super Bowl championships, some of the most successful years for the Saints, and so much history made and so many records broken in the Superdome. As someone who was never into sports, the Saints made football fun to watch and see what else they would do. I hate to see Drew retiring, but we knew it was coming and it's time for him to move on to the next stage.
AJ Smith had an ego that lead him to believe that there wasn't any football knowledge Marty F'n Shottenheimer could offer him!?!? The guy was in the trenches his whole life, made the BROWNS a winner, but AJ Smith had no use for him? Say what you want about what the Mannings did, but Eli got to chips and didn't have to deal with that turd.
@@ClasherSports lol no, but Sam Darnold isnt a scrub, and neither is Tua. Yet the fans all seem to want to move on from these guys because they didnt perform like Patrick Mahomes. They should watch this video.
@@jaybird9988 Uhh, idk what they would get from watching this video. Going to NO saved Drew's career, had he stayed in SD he never would have won a Super bowl nor had nearly the success he had otherwise. If anything Drew is a case for young QBs to go to another team if they are struggling with their current one. Both parties made the right decision. Just one team had to face the patriots in the AFC playoffs and the other didn't.
Of course coaches are a BIG fuckin deal. Vince Lombardi the man that the Super Bowl trophy is named after the year before he went to Green Bay the team went 1-10-1 his first year the team went 7-5 and the year after that the team went 8-4 and went to the NFL championship pre Super Bowel era. And from that team in 1958 that had a record of 1-10-1 seven went on to become hall of famers.
I think with Brees, he showed glimpses of what he could be in 2004 and 2005. Situation also helps too. Payton got him on the right track and by 2008, Brees could’ve been the QB he turned into on just about any team imo.
The Dolphins whiffed on this one I remember when they chose Culppeper over Breese. I personally thought I was a terrible signing and hey look I was right.
@@tonymoretti2347 Welcome to social media 101... I know it was said during an interview but as the great Herm Edwards once said .... "DON'T PRESS SEND". Didn't the whole DJax vs Israel comments come right after Drews?
@@raidersacdc4892 that was martyball. He did it in the regular season too. Up 14-13 and goes for the FG to make it 17-13 only to give up a TD with less than a minute left.
Been a Charger fan all my life and have lived through the dysfunctions across the decades. Maybe we have a future with Justin but until ownership stops making mistakes I'm not holding my breath.
Outside of the '04 season, he looked pretty average and even in that one bright spot season, they couldn't even snag a playoff win against the worst AFC team. Guess he just needed a change of scenery and a weaker conference. Wasn't really like the Chargers made a bad decision letting him go. Rivers had an overall better SD career than Brees did. That being said, Brees had a better overall career than Rivers did, but that may never have happened if he stayed with the Chargers.
If brees turned out as great as he was in NO, then he probably would’ve won a Super Bowl with gates and lt. But who knows if he could get past Brady in the AFC playoffs, which was the reason for many teams including chargers why they couldn’t get a ring
@@deagle7776 was never Brady the chargers needed to get by. It was the patriots defense. Both playoff games in the late 2000s Brady was trash. 2006 Divisional vs Chargers: 27/51, 280 yards, 2 TD, 3 INT, 57.6 rating Awful performance but THE PATS STILL WIN. Defense forces 4 turnovers, & even after Brady throws a (likely) game-losing INT, THE CHARGERS FUMBLE THE BALL BACK TO THE PATS ON THE SAME PLAY. 2007 AFCCG vs Chargers: 22/33, 209 yards, 2 TD, 3 INT, 66.4 rating Another awful performance but guess what... THE PATRIOTS WIN AGAIN. Defense allows only 12 points and carries Brady back to another Super Bowl.
Brees was great in playoffs that 04 year though. 05 was a great year also for 05 standards and rules. For today's easy rules it would be an average season, but back then Brees had a season worse than only Peyton Manning and Carson Palmer. Brady, Brees, and Hasselbeck were the notch below them.
Only played 1 game his rookie year, had a average year for 2002 standards, bad year in 2003, amazing year for 2004 non Peyton Manning standards and played great in playoffs, unlike rivers, and a great year for 2005 non Peyton Manning standards and rules but had a bad December in 2005 but great overall year.
Brees injury was terrible and looked like he wasn’t going to return. They didn’t wait to see how he was going to rehab. I know the chargers still had a very solid rivers but imagine brees and taking off but Sean Payton let him loose as well.
Bro that 2006 divisional round game against the Patriots was honestly one of the greatest NFL games I've ever seen. Back and forth, super-high drama, crazy things went on that day.
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I applaud Marty for having Drew Brees back like that
I revered head coach Marty Shottenheimer. I always respected him being a head coach for struggling franchises and making them formidable.
They would have been a dynasty if they stick with both him and Shotty.
Marty just needed an aggressive D cordinator to keep him from going to his one flaw the prevent D
Marty is one of the best coaches ever. Sad that he didn’t win the big one.
A.J did a lot of people dirty. Marty was atleast going to take care of team.
Right.
I had no idea he had passed . Awesome tribute to Ol MartyBall !!!
ya man.. he had alzheimers the later stage of his life.. got bad.. there's a video on youtube about it. #martyball
I've been a Browns fan for over 45 years and Marty is my favorite Browns coach. His passing really saddens me, we have lost one of the greatest coaches.
This is completely off the subject but my goodness time goes by so fast!
I remember those Browns games that Marty coached. Damnnn! I know man!
REST IN PEACE MARTY. YOU were a GREAT coach.
I had no idea Marty Schottenheimer died! One day before my 50th birthday. He was the best coach in the NFL that never won a Super Bowl. I was a Chiefs fan in the early '90s when Joe Montana played for them.
Great recap. People forget the circumstances surrounding Brees’ departure from SD, it was complicated. We as the Chargers fanship loved Brees while he was with us and he was a class act dealing with the situation w/Phil. As a Chargers football fan, I celebrated his career the whole way through. ⚡️
thanks! appreciate the kind words 🙏
Drew Brees = HOF Saint Charger
I agree. I made similar comments above. It was messy and the GM could have used the 1st round pick to trade for multiple players to make that team a multi-super bowl contender but didn't have the wisdom to see what he had in his possession.
Brees didn't throw temper tantrums or roll his eyes after a int. I seen him mad one time at Jeremy Shockey for blowing his cover and the two went on to pass for a touchdown in a super bowl. Manning and Brady have so much film of their emotions, and to be fair, it's understandable to get upset sometimes, but Brees read the same body language every down. "Going to move these damn chains to that endzone and get 6". No matter the situation. As emotional as it is to play football as a QB, to remain zoned in and stay professional is impressive.
Ironically, that shoulder injury was the best thing to ever happen to Drew.
Yep. Only downside is that shoulder injury definitely shortened his prime a little bit. Had he not suffered it (and still been in the league at that point) he probably would’ve had 2, maybe 3 years left before his arm started going out on him.
Brady and Brees two of the best ever had such humble beginnings.
I remember going to a talk with Purdue football coach Joe Tiller a few weeks before the 2004 draft. Someone asked about Drew, and Coach Tiller said he had spoken to Drew recently, and said in his opinion, the best thing that could happen for Drew would be for the Chargers to pick Eli Manning, and for Drew Brees to get the hell away from that team.
As a Chargers fan! I’m proud that both Brees & Rivers played for my team. In the 2006, when Rivers 1st year as a starter. Some or a lot of Chargers fans that year believe that Rivers is much better then Brees. Then when u looked at both of their entired career. Brees stats ended better then Rivers. I like them both the same.
This is why I don’t understand why some of these GMs have jobs. Even Archie Manning know it didn’t make since for the chargers to draft a QB.
Great video. I was a Marine living in San Diego when this happened. The Brees injury during a meaningless game rocked the city. Really well done video.
Thanks!
It's not often a team drafts 2 hall of famers in the same round of the draft. So incredible
As a life long Bolt fan I really hope Herbert can get us to a couple of Super Bowls to make up for the mess we had in the 2000s.
Nah I wouldn’t say that. Till 2004 maybe but after he got a near career injury in 05, two teams still were willing to give him a big contract
RIP Marty Schottenheimer. He was Kansas City’s head coach when I first started getting into football and a Kansas City Chiefs fan.
Marty was a great man. Didn’t know he passed. Bless you sir. You will not be forgotten.
When you think about the chargers have a good drafting streak of Hall of Fame caliber QB Drew, Eli, Philip & maybe Justin. Haha
Dan Foutes he played his whole career with the Chargers, 15 seasons and made the hall of fame.
@@RaiderGannon12 And Stan Humphries went to the Super Bowl. He wasn't Dan Fouts or Philip Rivers, but he was pretty good. The Chargers never had a losing record with him until he retired. After he retired, it was the Dark Ages with Ryan Leaf.
What no love for Craig Whelihan ?
Man how does this video only have 1000 views... here before it hits 200k views
if it hits 30k, Im happy
50 k and counting!!!!! Worth the watch for sure.
A friend of mine who was a good athlete would play pick up soccer games in a park in Austin, Tx. They would choose up sides and there was this little kid that wanted to play. The kid was unstoppable. He went from “ok let the kid play” to “I got first pick I want that kid on my team”. Yep, it was Drew.
The rule of thumb is this, if u draft a 1st round QB and he has 1 good season like drew did, it’s time to build around him and the chargers really kept sabotaging they team. The had no business drafting rivers, the should of got a top wideout to help brees. So if Brees got top wide out, prime LT and prime Antonio Gates.with a line, u not losing against Brady and company. They split the baby and never recovered
That, and the fact that the Chargers never got Brees a dominant defense like Brady had at the beginning of his career, and even throughout most of it. I think the best defense they gave Brees was in 2004 and it was above average, maybe decent. That was enough to get them to 12-4 with what they had on offense. That was in a time period when good/great offenses couldn’t carry an eh at best defense as easily.
That's all because of A.J. Smith. He was a new GM and he didn't draft Brees and wanted to pick his QB of the future but I agree with you 100%. Every time I re-watch the drama from Eli in the 2004 draft, I think about how the Chargers had Drew and really didn't need to draft a QB but it was all because of A.J. Smith
I wonder if that Dolphins doctor regrets saying that Drew Brees's shoulder would never recover.
Meanwhile...
Tom Brady, who was drafted years before these guys, still endures.
TB12 may never end...
Drew got the last laugh. One of my favorites of all time and this was a big event in the history of the nfl. Marty knew that nobody else knew at the time, He knew Brees was great
I've always been a fan of Drew Brees. I remember wen he was drafted out of Perdue. Many didn't think he would play long and was to short to be a qb. I wonder how those folks feel after his record book career
Thanks san diego for letting drew brees go. Sincerely a Oakland Raider fan
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Chargers drafted LT, Brees, Chargers 2004 draft has to be one of the greatest drafts by a team and it’s never talked about!!! Manning (trade for Rivers which Rivers was better QB), Nate Kaeding, Nick Hardwick, Shaune Phillips, Michael Turner, Wes Welker, Malcom Floyd.
Rivers being better than eli is debatable
Reat in piece marty... youre a chiefs legend.
As a charger fan thank you for making this video.
Your welcome
Imagine Drew goes to Miami. Not only would the afc have Brady Brees manning and rivers going at it every year but imagine how different the Pat's would be playing Drew 2 times a year could've been the best football or the biggest bust. Very interesting to contemplate
The rift between Marty and AJ Smith started in the 2003 draft whereas Marty wanted AJ to trade up and get Troy Polamalu. As we know, Smith wound up ignoring Marty's desire for an excellent safety and Smith stayed put and drafted safety Terrence Kiel in the late 2nd round. History tells us Marty was right. Drafting Rivers was not popular with many Chargers fans at the time because many of us believed Brees hadn't been given enough line and receiver talent to truly succeed.
Note: As for the 2004 draft, the Chargers got Rivers and some picks, including Merriman and Kaeding (who wound up costing the Bolts playoff wins), the BEST pick there would have been Larry Fitzgerald -- the type of player Brees really needed to thrive at the QB position.
Lmaoooo
So John Lynch did to the Chargers, what Aeneas Williams did to the 49ers...when Williams destroyed Steve Youngs throwing shoulder...
Interesting video AF...
John Lynch changed a franchises trajectory...and, he’s seemingly doing it now, but on a managerial level...
Go 9ers!!!
Great video bro! Subbed!
See Jets Mo Lewis hit on Bledsoe.
Bring Back Our San Diego Chargers... oh, R.I.P. Coach Marty and Vincent Jackson...
Man 1:30 just made me remember how it was only been 20 years since it went from East , West and Central to East, West, South and North divisions lol forget that sliver of time that Brady and Manning were in the same division
Thanks San Diego, from Giants Nation.
As a lifelong Dolphins fan I'll never forget loosing out on Brees, but to be honest I don't blame the organization, nobody knew Drew Brees would be _Drew Brees_ at that time. It didn't take long to look back on it though and wish things had gone differently. Truth is Drew ended up in the perfect place for him though. With that said everyone knows how great Deshaun Watson is and if we don't go all in to get him I'm going to be pissed.
Terrell suggs wasnt drafter yet. Baltimores linebackers were ray lewus, peter boulware, jamie sharper i think from virginia. Defensive line was mike McCrary rob burnett were ends, tony siragusa sam adams dt.
Cbs duan starks and chris mccallister. Safetys were rod woodson and burnett.
Marty was a great HC ..and minus AJ Smith ..would have won a bowl ..unbelievable ..why does this happen to all of my teams? ..grrrr
AJ needed to STFU. It was Marty's team. Let the coach do his job. You just get him players!!!! It cost SD possibly 2 SB's. As a Charger fan to go from Brees to Rivers to Herbert, It doesn't get better than that. #MartyBall Yoi said it. To one of my favorite coaches of all time. #RIPCoachMarty
I've been a Chargers fan since 1982. A.J. Smith was a shit bag. I remember all the stuff in this video. Painful memories... 😢
I often wonder what would have happened had the Chargers drafted Michael Vick. I like to imagine Vick would have learned to surf rather than bankroll a dogfighting kennel.
Hey, a guy can dream!
Yes he was. I felt the chargers didn't need to draft Manning with Brees there and now I'm seeing that it was A.J. Smiths fault mostly
vick's brother was the main dog fighter so I'm sure Vick would have still did it.
Down the stretch in that first starting season, the Chargers were signing guys from the super market to start on their o line. A.J Smith destroyed the same team he help build.
Could you picture Drew Brees backing up Eli Manning in San Diego?? 🤔🔥
First ballot 🗳.
Nope.
@@rustynail914 How?
@@gcc0858 WTF do you mean how? Do you even speak English?
One of the best to ever play the position,and a great role model!
Brees would’ve had the same exact Rivers had if he stayed on the Chargers. They still wouldn’t have won a super bowl
Brees was great in playoffs even with chargers. They were a better team Rivers took over, but rivers would screw them by becoming pic city 0 td in playoffs.
Coach/QB chemistry. That's what matters. Sean Payton saw something in Brees. He knew he could work with Brees. Same for Jameis Winston the turnover machine. He came to New Orleans killing it until injury. Certain coaches just know how to utilize talent.
Drew Brees is an all time great but hearing one of the Saints players this year say Brady was number 2 behind Brees was hilarious. I understand you gotta be withyout QB but you also gotta be realistic.
I don’t think it’s that big of a difference. Hell Brees did what he did with his small stature, above average arm strength at best, and his shoulder injury. All without a pro bowl WR until 2017. Most, if not all of the QBs at the top of the list in career stats had at least 1 HOF WR, and some had multiple. Brees will likely go down with none. Even if MT does make the HOF, he came at the end of Brees’ prime. The only big difference between those two are wins and championships and that’s on the organization and coaching, not a single player. It didn’t help that the organization he went to and spent most of his career on had 1 playoff win in almost 4 decades of existence before his time there.
Drew still has a couple years. He just needs to heal up this off-season. Big ben looks pretty rough. He needs a shot of cocaine or something to get him off the viagra
No
RIP Marty, you deserved to win a Superbowl.
Tom Brady won 3 super bowls while Drew couldn't even win his job. 😂😂
Tom also watched Brees win a Super Bowl too don’t leave that out 🥴😂 look at Brees now and look at the chargers that didn’t age well for them 😂😂😂😂😂
@@tayybhaddasz4137 ?? It think the point went waaay over your head. The point is Tom Brady had already won 3 super bowls before Brees even established himself as a starting QB. I don't think Brady is concerned with Brees having one whole Superbowl title. Brees has been in the NFC for 14 years and has as many SB championships in the NFC as Brady does after one year.
@Cornelius Malone oh, you're a flat earther. Thanks for the self disclosure.
Really good video but fell flat at the end. Like it was about Marty and San Diego, not Brees....
Nobody talks about how the chargers drafted 2 hall of famers in back to back picks in the same draft.
And won 0 championship with it
@@ghislainlarocque4415 that’s chargers football baby!
@@hogndog2339 Marty was the best coach they ever had and they fired him. The year after he was fired the Chargers started going downhill. Marty’s problem is he always had bad luck in the playoffs.
I don’t think Rivers is HOF. I honestly think the NFL is just putting so much hype into the 2004 draft so they can close the gap between the 1983 draft as the greatest QB classes.
@@StrikeTeam0316 they’re talking about Brees
San Diego always has talent. They just don't seem to know what to do with it.
The charges getting rid of Brees is way the charges should never win the super bowl they go of furture Hall of Famers in his prime
@@gregoryfuller9736 nah, his release was actually totally understandable at the time. I actually have the same shoulder injury as him and the outlook is pretty grim. Who could have predicted that'd he'd come back stronger than ever? He didn't reach his prime until he got to NO. Nobody saw that shit coming. Also, what luck that Rivers turned out to be the HOF qb he is. In the end it really did kinda work out for everybody, as he said. Chargers are pretty doomed tho, unless the ownership changes
@@conorobrien1025 yup! If I remember correctly, they thought shoulder injury would end his career as a QB! Definitely wouldn’t have thought Brees would be Brees!
Like I said Chargers too me did a poor job in comparison to the Saints when it came to Offensive line.
Especially when Evans and Nicks were on their game.
Not mention prisoner Darren Sharper was just incredible at football but bad at life I guess.
Man you (Ain't) lying blame it on the coaching staff
The ripple affect from this was amazing, If Dolphins sign Brees instead of Dante Culpepper now Nick Saban doesn’t leave Miami and Alabama and Patriots are viewed very differently
Or if brees had stayed with the chargers, they would have won 1-2 Super Bowls with the roster they had
If Brees had gone to Miami he would have 1 less ring and much less production.
@@hanspennyloaf335 wrong
@@hanspennyloaf335 nick saban wanted brees back then. his team doctor didnt okay the decision. one of the reasons he went back to college he said in an interview. He felt like he didnt have control of the team.
@@marcelopierre7330 Saban and Brees wouldnt have been able to stop Brady and Belichick. Brees is an all timr great but the very real fact of the matter is that a significant amount of his success in New Orleans was due to him be paired with one of the best offensive minds the sport has ever seen in Sean Payton.
I think it’s pretty ironic that Drew Brees and Phillip Rivers both retired in the same year
Yeah
Yet, both lead very different careers upon retiring. The chargers couldnt get anything done with the talented packed rosters
@@ryaj2356 yup which sucked because I wanted Seau Flute Gates and LT to get a ring!!
If the Chargers traded a young Phillip Rivers they would've gotten a haul in return and became a potentially dynastic franchise with Ladainian Tomlinson, Antonio Gates, and a great defense. At least 1 ring. Biggest mistake of their franchise looking back.
@@bryantdixon8918 it's hard to say that in the moment. A lot of players dont bounce back from injury and drew was injured as his contract expired. Rivers was still on a rookie contract and untested so teams may not have paid out as much for him, maybe a 1st rounder is all he would have gotten. Given rivers didnt do shit in the play offs and rarely made it there with all the talent that surrounded them, the chargers got little out of him for how much they paid him to win it all.
I think this proves the NFL doesn't give young QBs enough time to develop
49ers gave Alex Smith alot of time to develop. Only for them to be done with him a season and a half after finally developing.
Many develop in 2 years. Clearly SD staff doesn't know how coz brees immediately clicked in NO
@@docsylva2876 I mean you have a point, the rules have changed, but QBs can still be tackled, there’s still pressure for the QB because if the line rushes them he can still get tackled for a loss of yards they’re just protecting the QB from getting absolutely obliterated in the pocket or tackled when he already threw the ball, it still takes skill, you’re still rushed for time, they just don’t have equipment that protects from the brutality that the sport used to have
But make no mistake, QBs still get their asses kicked today, especially the ones who like to rush like Robert griffin III or Michael Vick, they suffered many injuries leaving the pocket and getting ran over trying to run for that first down.
I don’t think that rule change is absolutely a terrible thing, although players do choose to take that risk themselves when they join up
100%
@@docsylva2876 you dont know shit about what was happening. Brees rarely got hurt except for his last 2 years.
Thanks Chargers and Dolphins! What's funny is that Drew is undefeated against both the Chargers and Dolphins since he's became a Saint.
I'm a lifelong Lions fan. Even though I refuse to watch the games and haven't followed the team for years for obvious reasons. But when people say the lions are the Lions and they will never win, I immediately respond with New Orleans Saints. Get the right coach and the right quarterback and you can win. Look at The Saints. Drew Brees and Sean Payton completely turned that franchise around.
For the record Nick Saban wanted Drew Brees and the training staff would not pass him on his physical. The chargers just didn't want him, Saban wanted Brees and was furious when the training staff did not pass him for his physical.
Oh and one more thing I'm from Michigan obviously cuz of The Lions (FML) and I'm a die-hard Michigan fan I saw Drew Brees play at Purdue a lot because I'm in Big Ten country and anyone that watched Big Ten teams knew Brees was good before he even got to San Diego. I love Drew Brees. One of the greatest competitors I've ever seen.
@@chadneumann2772 man you're hurting, huh?
@@Qovas1 Are you referring to the fact ALL our teams pick in The top 5 of the draft every year? Or that we haven't beat OSU in 2 decades? Hurting isn't the word. Bored out of my mind would be more accurate.
RIP Marty.......dude doesn't get enough respect for what he accomplished as a HC in the NFL
He's by far the best head coach to never win a Superbowl
I agree marty was a great coach /at San Diego/cleveland.
It was interceptions / fumbles that cost marty to loose the games in cleveland/San Diego.
@@koolmaaan lmao
@@WaluigiLebron Dan Reeves, Bud Grant, Chuck Knox, and some others.
I felt bad for drew brees because I felt like him and Lt and Antonio gates
Could have won a super bowl together
That team was definitely robbed.. how do they fire schotty after going 14-2
Thank y’all though without yall my saints dont get him and a ring so we appreciate it👏🏿👏🏿👏🏿😂
@@Carlito1980 I know right because in '06 Lt was the mvp and they lost to the Patriots in the divisional round
@@Yinzer_Nation793 i dunno which loss was worse.. the one in 06 or 07.. and then the Patriots dancing on the chargers logo .. LT lost it
@@Carlito1980 Nepotism. Marty wanted to hire a relative, the organization didnt allow that.
Cursing at you players worse than Marty Shottenheimer...
RIP
Shady
I just don't give a fuck
liquid richard
Nice
Drew came to a broken city with a historically horrible organization as far as performance. Recruiters tried to show him all the nice pretty repaired parts, when he saw one of the more damaged areas of the city he knew he wanted to be there. He means so much to the city of New Orleans and to the entire state.
I was telling someone today that in 100 years people in New Orleans will STILL be wearing Brees jerseys to games. He means so much to the people in this city its insane.
@@brandongauger4050 You're more than likely right. He's a legend not only ON the field but he's done so much for the city off of it.
@@justinlacey6437 I mean he and the Saints literally brought a completely broken city back to form. Shit may still not be fully rebuilt around here, but this team brought the hurting people back together and let people forget about shit for a while. Brought people something to be happy about. I truly don't know what New Orleans would be without Brees coming to the Saints but the city will forever be grateful and will always have one of the best fanbases in the NFL.
Im from Brazil, do you think over there in Louisiana Saints are dominant when it comes to fan base ?
Yes. There's no other NFL team besides college.
Love those old Charger uniforms. Wish they were still back in San Diego
Tomlinson and Brees in the same draft deserves at least some love. 👍🏻
Buddy Nix and John Butler all the way!
2003, when 4-12 could be the worst team in the league.
That's playoff contender in the NFC East in 2020 😂
The craziest thing is that the chargers had Brees, Flutie and Rivers at the same time
Flutie wasn't all that great💀
@@jdwildcat4823 bro flutie is underrated. Yea no one expected much from him but if you look at his complete career in the nfl and canadian football, its impressive
@@xilencered7788 plus as an experienced undersized QB he was instrumental in helping Brees learn to navigate the pocket as a smaller player and Brees talks all the time about how much Flutie helped him.
@@jdwildcat4823 Flutie was a better QB than what you think. He wasn't given the chance or the offense. He was always brought in on struggling teams and then when he turned them around, they brought in a younger QB that would ride the victory, a la Buffalo.
@@jdwildcat4823 Guess what happened to Flutie flakes (I say that with sincere respect) after the Chargers cut him? A conniving and evil genius head coach by the name of Belichek picked him up! So Belichek saw his value but we're supposed to value your opinion? A random negative comment guy on TH-cam? Hahahaha
Marty Schottenhimer: 200 wins, 7th all time
AJ Smith: Pompous Ass
Playoff record was shit
Marty should be in the hall of fame, I understand his playoff record is awful, but the man could coach
Even tho Mcree ruined the season. A.J ruined our dynasty.
I dont know what you're running for, but you've got my vote.
Cowher and Roethlisberger were given an opportunity to redeem themselves in 2005, after getting their asses kicked by New England in the 2004 AFC Championship game at home. I have no doubt that, following a 15-1 season that ended badly, Dean Spanos would have fired Cowher and replaced him with Norv Turner or someone else who had no business being a head coach. Especially since that was Cowher's fourth AFC Championship game loss at home. That's the difference between stable and unstable ownership. The Chargers are on their fourth head coach since firing Marty following the 2006 season. The Steelers have had three head coaches since 1969.
The Chargers have been and will always be dysfunctional. It’s sad to see my favorite team dismantling every single season. Fired a great coach to hire norv turner.
As bad as Norv was, Mike McCoy was even worse. Frank Reich was the ultimate scapegoat for McCoy, and he ended up winning the Super Bowl almost IMMEDIATELY after getting fired. Tom Telesco is pretty good though. Herbert is a stud, and unlike 2013, Telesco isn't spending 5 years cleaning up the mess left behind by AJ Smith.
man you ain't kidding
The 2000s Chargers gotta be one of the most underachieving teams in sports history
That was just ridiculous firing Marty for Norv
Your team and many others have made the norv or ron turner mistake. Join our support group.
Marty was a football guy who understood his players. Guy turned around Cleveland, Kansas city and San Diego. He may never have won a super bowl but the guy never feared going to the most dreadful teams and succeeded in terms of winning.
Yes!!!! Marty took us from being an absolute joke into a damn good football team. After all that losing it was so nice to actually wins more that we lost. Charger fan since birth until the day they left SD.
@@robertmacias279 Raiders fans are still fans of LV Raiders. Who you got now?
Marty was a great regular season coach, but a mediocre playoff coach.
I like it when someone posts something completely false then mutes people so there cannot be a response because they know that they don't know what they are talking about or make false claims lol. GJ Syed Ahmed lmao.
He is literally what Don Nelson is to the NBA
People always bag on Rivers for not winning a ring with LT, Gates, Vincent Jackson etc. Brees couldnt get it done either. This office and ownership are bafoons, take note of how their move to LA went haha
Rivers is a HOF player IMO..Super bowl or not
@@raidersacdc4892 no
the best ever Umm yes 63K yds passing 421 TD passes. Yes
@@thebestever1681 If no, he is def on the borderline.
@@bobshenix i don't care for rivers but saying he is borderline his whole career is just dumb, how are you going to say that to future hall of famer? you can't unless its bs falling out your mouth... man i don't even like rivers and I'm backing him up but it's facts
Drafting LT and Brees in the first round has to be one of the best drafts ever.
Yea but only Brees was a 2nd round pick
Brees was a bust for the Chargers
Less so after he left, but for the team that drafted him didnt get a ton of value out of him
Brees was first pick of second round.
@@colmecolwag well part of that was the Chargers fault for giving up on him.
@@clark2501 i may be a sad san diego fan who feels doomed but
I dont think hed be a hall of fame quality qb if the chargers kept him.
He didnt exactly wow while he was here. And Sean Peyton wasnt moving to San Diego anytime soon.
Marty Ball BABY! “Gentlemen. There’s a GLEAM!”
The man who told the Chiefs to just hang around in games against the Raiders because they’d find a way to lose.
Rip Coach Schottenheimer, great coach and an even better man. I’m thankful I got to watch his teams. 🙏🏾💯
im born 1996 and I remember drew on the chargers with LT during the early and mid 2000s lol.
good on you to know your history!
As a Raiders fan, I remember those teams and they were pretty damn good. Especially when Drew became the full time starter before Rivers started full time. Antonio Gates was a beast too
I was born in 94 and I remember the same plus Antonio Gates and Lorenzo Neal!
He was a legend at Purdue. His first three years were very rough for him. In 2004 he went off. Cool that you got to see him as a Charger.
I feel sorry for you you missed the best years of football youngin
They drafted a HOF running back and quarter back in the same draft
R.I.P Marty Schottenheimer this is football this is why we out here Legend
YUP Scrotomheimer was a hell of a coach.
Wow, that photo of Brees next to Flutie... I've never seen Brees stand next to a smaller QB. He actually looked tall for once.
He's 6' , taller than your bf
Chargers fucked up. Not so much on Drew Brees but firing Marty was the dumbest decision and they paid for it with 15 years of mediocre teams with a high level QB. (not great, possibly because he wasn’t surrounded by greatness)
only coach i can think of that got fired after going 14-2
Chargers have always been trash it definitely has a lot to do with the Owners. They’re beyond sad.
Clasher Sports Marty was a great coach but always got way too conservative in the payoffs. One team that comes to Mind was his KC that lost to the Colts 10-7 after a 13-3 season
Man, this feels like forever ago, this was when I first started watching football, it seems like it was destiny for Brees to get hurt so he and Rivers could go on their own paths of success, also I didn't realize Marty Schottenheimer died, RIP
same here.. same time i started watching.. flutie was my guy lol.. i was watching CFL first
Only one QB there went on a path of success.
The other went on the path of success of producing more kids.
Dude samesies, my first game was in San Diego vs. the Chiefs- the crowd was chanting BRING BACK BREES haha. Feels kinda neat to have physically been a part of this story.
@@ClasherSports are you Canadian my man?! Or you just appreciate good football?! 😅
Freaking Brees came back against all odds! Respect!
Yep. I love his resilience, and drive.
@Tom Reedy Saints do have a great coach! Wish my Raiders had one!!?? Geez!
Everything happened the way it was supposed to. It worked out really well for the Saints. We got the best QB in franchise history, a Super Bowl championships, some of the most successful years for the Saints, and so much history made and so many records broken in the Superdome. As someone who was never into sports, the Saints made football fun to watch and see what else they would do. I hate to see Drew retiring, but we knew it was coming and it's time for him to move on to the next stage.
As a Saints fan I was beyond thrilled getting Drew Brees! And it clearly worked out...thanks to the Dolphins team doctor 😂
He was better off in New Orleans. The Dolphins have sucked since Marino left.
@@STMARTIN009 "I'm not gonna b the Alabama coach!"
Who knew the chargers front office sucked
It still does
Everyone.
I hate to say it but Archie and Eli, now our terrible ownership will waste Justin Herbert's career
@@gudzillaman4548 They actually drafted Oline and got a stud freeagent center in the offseason so will see.
AJ Smith had an ego that lead him to believe that there wasn't any football knowledge Marty F'n Shottenheimer could offer him!?!? The guy was in the trenches his whole life, made the BROWNS a winner, but AJ Smith had no use for him? Say what you want about what the Mannings did, but Eli got to chips and didn't have to deal with that turd.
Youd think history would have taught us not to judge these young 1st & 2nd season QBs too soon.....but nope
Good point... are you a NYJ fan? Sam Darnold 🤔🤔🤔 lolll
@@ClasherSports lol no, but Sam Darnold isnt a scrub, and neither is Tua. Yet the fans all seem to want to move on from these guys because they didnt perform like Patrick Mahomes. They should watch this video.
@@jaybird9988 Uhh, idk what they would get from watching this video. Going to NO saved Drew's career, had he stayed in SD he never would have won a Super bowl nor had nearly the success he had otherwise. If anything Drew is a case for young QBs to go to another team if they are struggling with their current one.
Both parties made the right decision. Just one team had to face the patriots in the AFC playoffs and the other didn't.
Y’all speaking on rivers like he was mark Sanchez
He was a slightly above average qb his whole career
Never. But Rivers had some real bad luck along with crappy management.
@@yomamacrib3297 more than slightly above.
@@yomamacrib3297 what is your standard of average
@@yomamacrib3297 Rivers is top 5
This is one of the main reasons I think players aren’t bust. It’s all about situation. Drew looked like bust until Sean got his hands on him.
Of course coaches are a BIG fuckin deal. Vince Lombardi the man that the Super Bowl trophy is named after the year before he went to Green Bay the team went 1-10-1 his first year the team went 7-5 and the year after that the team went 8-4 and went to the NFL championship pre Super Bowel era. And from that team in 1958 that had a record of 1-10-1 seven went on to become hall of famers.
I think with Brees, he showed glimpses of what he could be in 2004 and 2005. Situation also helps too. Payton got him on the right track and by 2008, Brees could’ve been the QB he turned into on just about any team imo.
The Dolphins whiffed on this one I remember when they chose Culppeper over Breese. I personally thought I was a terrible signing and hey look I was right.
Culpepper sucked without Moss
Running first qbs go down quick. A good one after 30?? There are some, but most are done
Nick.Saben wanted him, but their were medical concerns and management over ridded the new coach. And the rest is history
That deal resulted in Sagan going to Tuscaloosa. Brees shaped the NFL and college with a freak shoulder injury.
Hell, I remember wanting the Fins to draft him out of college to replace Marino. They could’ve had him late in round 1.
It’s honestly hard to imagine drew being on any other team besides the saints. New Orleans is where he was meant to be.
Guys been there forever.. i always forget he started in SD
@@ClasherSports just like Charlotte hornets drafted Kobe Bryant but he's known as a laker will he retire as a saint or charger
Hate how he apologized to the lynch mob
@@tonymoretti2347 Welcome to social media 101... I know it was said during an interview but as the great Herm Edwards once said .... "DON'T PRESS SEND". Didn't the whole DJax vs Israel comments come right after Drews?
@@ClasherSports who thinks Herm Edwards is great? 😭😂
Marty was one of the best NFL coaches in the world.... i loved his style of football 🏈
one of a kind
Should be in the HOF
Too bad he always got too conservative in the playoffs
@@raidersacdc4892 that was martyball. He did it in the regular season too. Up 14-13 and goes for the FG to make it 17-13 only to give up a TD with less than a minute left.
As a colts fan I always respected the way his teams battled. You can tell how much that locker room loved and respected him.
One of my favorite head coaches as well. Wish he coached the Raiders instead of two teams I absolutely hated.
Been a Charger fan all my life and have lived through the dysfunctions across the decades. Maybe we have a future with Justin but until ownership stops making mistakes I'm not holding my breath.
The Chargers drafted Drew Brees, Phillip Rivers and now Justin Herbert. They are blessed to have such talents at the QB positions
But doing absolute shit with them.
@@zacharyradford5552 they’ll always be good at losing in the playoffs
@@ObiWanKenobi yes we havent won the big one but im equally happy that the Chargers will always have potential to play great every year
And that Ryan Leaf guy. I wonder if draft decision makes listened to the advice of the same people regarding Leaf and Brees?
Outside of the '04 season, he looked pretty average and even in that one bright spot season, they couldn't even snag a playoff win against the worst AFC team. Guess he just needed a change of scenery and a weaker conference. Wasn't really like the Chargers made a bad decision letting him go. Rivers had an overall better SD career than Brees did. That being said, Brees had a better overall career than Rivers did, but that may never have happened if he stayed with the Chargers.
Lmao
If brees turned out as great as he was in NO, then he probably would’ve won a Super Bowl with gates and lt. But who knows if he could get past Brady in the AFC playoffs, which was the reason for many teams including chargers why they couldn’t get a ring
@@deagle7776 was never Brady the chargers needed to get by. It was the patriots defense. Both playoff games in the late 2000s Brady was trash.
2006 Divisional vs Chargers: 27/51, 280 yards, 2 TD, 3 INT, 57.6 rating Awful performance but THE PATS STILL WIN. Defense forces 4 turnovers, & even after Brady throws a (likely) game-losing INT, THE CHARGERS FUMBLE THE BALL BACK TO THE PATS ON THE SAME PLAY.
2007 AFCCG vs Chargers: 22/33, 209 yards, 2 TD, 3 INT, 66.4 rating Another awful performance but guess what... THE PATRIOTS WIN AGAIN. Defense allows only 12 points and carries Brady back to another Super Bowl.
Brees was great in playoffs that 04 year though. 05 was a great year also for 05 standards and rules. For today's easy rules it would be an average season, but back then Brees had a season worse than only Peyton Manning and Carson Palmer. Brady, Brees, and Hasselbeck were the notch below them.
I didn't realize how many years Brees played for the Chargers. I always thought it was 2or 3.
It was three bad years, one very good, and one average. If it had lasted beyond 2005 in San Diego no way he makes the Hall of Fame.
Only played 1 game his rookie year, had a average year for 2002 standards, bad year in 2003, amazing year for 2004 non Peyton Manning standards and played great in playoffs, unlike rivers, and a great year for 2005 non Peyton Manning standards and rules but had a bad December in 2005 but great overall year.
Crazy how this was a video recommendation when Brees just announced his retirement
Brees injury was terrible and looked like he wasn’t going to return. They didn’t wait to see how he was going to rehab. I know the chargers still had a very solid rivers but imagine brees and taking off but Sean Payton let him loose as well.
Brees had Gates, LT, Vincent Jackson... didnt do anything with them
I know I'm getting old. Drew Breeze was the first player that I followed from college to retirement.
join the club.. my fav was flutie as a child watching him in the CFL with the Stampeders lolll
Firing Marty Schottenheimer was the worst mistake this franchise ever made.
They drafted two hall of famers in one draft damn
Steelers drafted 4 HOFer's in one draft
Cowboys 3
Bears have drafted 2 in one draft twice
Buccaneers in 95 also 2 in one draft
Bro that 2006 divisional round game against the Patriots was honestly one of the greatest NFL games I've ever seen. Back and forth, super-high drama, crazy things went on that day.