Mom dyed her hair to try and got over on a hair folical test and it sounds like dad didnt pass either. Then they both flip their lids during the hearing. This does NOT promote confidence in their parenting. The children need to be protected from the instability of their parents. Good on the people looking out for them and trying to provide a stable environment for them.
@@chrisoakey9841 i know afew people that whenever thy are on the phone talking thy dont even realize that thy pace back n forth and cant stay still,i dont know much about adhd but maybe its ah mix of him being mad or a habit and/or adhd
@@jeremyjones8872 you make a good point. I have tendencies toward that, and my kids and other relatives. But this looked more than that. But you could be correct.
A girl I was once friends with lost custody of her daughter due to her heroin addiction, and she showed up to court with flaming RED hair out of nowhere and the judge called out her attempt to avert a follicle test
This is common in family courts, where kids are at stake. Sadly to often the lack of control shown by parents is one of the reasons kids are not safe with them.
I've given the same advice to several people. The only way to win this is to do as you're told, be the bigger person, and document everything. Your kids will see through your nonsense and so will the court. Be the bigger person. Shape up.
Trevor's outburst and Ashley's vacillation, their mutual lack of impulse control, were two of the strongest reasons to continue this case. Ashley got reasonable after Trevor blew up, because she kind of HAD to. The judge was concerned whether Ashley felt safe; imagine whether the children feel safe if their father can go off so suddenly and explosively.
I disagree. You try to stay calm after your children are removed. Then try doing everything CPS asks and then they manipulate the information and lie to “win” their case. Unless you have been through it, you don’t understand how severely losing your children can destroy you and make you lose any sense of self control. (For the record, I went through this in a case where false allegations were made against us. We did not react like this and never would, but it taught me to have so much more compassion and understanding for how messed up the system is. It’s insanely hard to stay composed when your children are on the line.)
@@maishamurray8777 I'm so sorry that happened to your family, I imagine the feeling of helplessness was infuriating. Unfortunately, good parenting requires looking at the big picture and rising above your emotional reactions in terrible circumstances, which it sounds like you did. Mr. Ferris, however, clearly shows a pattern of not being able to control himself, which is why his lawyer was eager to make sure Ferris didn't talk, and why he withdrew. I also find it telling that he wasn't sharing a lawyer with Ms. Smith, even though it would be significantly cheaper, I can only guess that she refused to represent him. Ms. Smith dyed her hair to hide her continued drug use, and it sounds like she is just now able to provide adequate housing for her children, even though the case has been going on for months. It's very sad, and grueling for both of them, but the risk to the children seems very real.
@Maisha Murray these are not good parents, what happened to them was deserved. It is a VERY big concern to give them their kids back. And I'm going to assume you are just as terrible.
Yeah, you let CPS screw you over and jerk you around and everything you take 2 steps forward have them push you 3 back while you love your kids then when you get mad they hold it against you. Meanwhile they take kids and throw them in fostercare where they get abused.
As a father who raised three kids on my own, these parents, especially the father, cannot provide a stable environment for these kids. This behavior is emotional abuse to small children. I'm betting they're never going to be fit for parenthood.
How to prove that you need Anger Management in a few easy steps. If they had any amount of self control then I imagine their children would have been back with them safe and sound a long time ago.
"Anger management" for people as damaged as this woman is a joke. She needs extensive trauma therapy. She's an emotionally volatile drug addict for a reason. People don't just do that, they do it to sedate emotional pain. No "anger management" course can help them. Sending people to ridiculous trainings and ineffective 12 step programs does nothing to heal whatever damage has been done, to cause someone to numb themselves with hard drugs or excessive amounts of alcohol. It actually applies to both of them.
If there is even the tiniest doubt that these people should have custody of their children back, then they shouldn't go back. Too often we see the results of what happens when children go back to parents who aren't fit. Huge kudos to Mr. Davis for standing up for the children and telling it like it is. Hats off to him! The parents can get bent out of shape all they want - this is no one's fault but their own...
I totally agree! I find it interesting that you hear all these good things about the parents from their attorneys but when Mr. Davis starts talking, you get the real deal.
Their behaviour here, in a public forum, in front of professionals who are deciding the case, raises massive concerns. Even if they aren't using drugs, the fact that they can't put their children's welfare before their own desire to have the children in their care shows that the judge's decision is correct. I understand that this is a very difficult situation for the parents,but if they don't understand that this behaviour is only validating the attorney's view that there are still major concerns, one has to wonder at their ability to meet the needs of the children. They don't seem to realise that it's not about them, the needs of the children are the primary concern and bawling and shouting when you don't get your own way is not the way that emotionally mature adults behave.
@@carlnightingale8687 that's a really great point, if they can't even at least put on a goody 2 shoes act for a judge IN COURT, then how do they act when nobody else is watching?
My daughter was a foster parent, she had the two children for 2 yrs, they went back with mom for 9 months and we're back with my daughter for another two years. They have now been back with mom for 4 1/2 yrs and all seems to be ok
The 15:30 comment of, "I will be filing my motion of withdrawal shortly, Your Honor," with such resignation by the father's attorney is one of the most damning things in this hearing to me. It's one thing to be frustrated with the courts or even be ordered to jail for contempt, but when your family law attorney wants to drop you (when family law attorneys are used to putting up with angry and emotional clients), you KNOW you have messed up.
This is Crazy. That judge is in PERFECT control of his court. He is carefully examining each item point by point and this dim bulb blows the whole thing with a tantrum. It's also a good example of how much just being unable to wait your turn can ruin you in court.
I want to agree with and underscore what you said about the court's contempt power ... I'm seeing a distressing decrease in its use, including in the in-court sessions with horrifying outbursts going unchecked.
@D Smyth to an extent it does. The court isn't a public square. It's not a public forum. It's not a stage. You're not allowed to flip off the court without consequence. You are not allowed to interrupt everyone whenever you want to. You are not allowed to put on a public performance in a courtroom. The court has a purpose, because of the court's purpose, it gets to set rules, decorum. If you do not respect the court rules and decorum, they have the power, and reasonably so, to force you to respect them. The court has the power to enforce its rules, else it would be complete anarchy and nothing would get done. If you do want to not be subject to court rules, you do have options. One option, stop breaking the law. Another option, respect the court rules and decorum, and everything will go smoothly- having an attorney represent you will make the process much smoother. Another option, pay the fines or make a deal with the prosecution. There are options to limit the time in which you will be subject to the court. But telling the judge that he's an asshole, saying fuck your rules to the court, being defiant of the court's authority when you are the one who fucked up, will reasonably get you charged with contempt of court. The court is not a soapbox.
She quit crying very quickly. I get it. I've been there. It sucks. But grow up, put your kids first, take accountability and get your shit together. Great judge. Also, poor attorney! He tried so hard!
Both parents go bonkers (displaying the need for anger management) & say everyone is "lying on them". How does a hair follicle test for drugs have anything to do with someone else lying on them!!??
I recently went from being a foster mom of over three years to a permanent guardianship. I thought we had drama with our case, but it was nothing compared to this.
It always amazes me when grown adults can’t control their emotions. Exactly what does this man think he accomplished by yelling and cursing at the judge? There was zero upside to venting his spleen like that. Like a child throwing a tantrum.
think of it as an extension of the fight or flight response. There is not much thought in the moment or for the consequences. Also drugs make impulse control go out the window
@@angelnewfoundlife812 no I haven't had one taken, however an ex of my daughter tried to get CPS to believe that meth was being used and given to my grandkids. We had to be interviewed, have our home inspected, and drug test given to everyone including the kids. Needless to say, the tests were negative but had to be repeated for 60 days. Meanwhile, the kids were scared to death and we were angry at the false report. They closed the case after all the tests were negative and they obtained further information on the accuser. He actually was on meth and now his kids are being investigated for being abused by another relative and also neglect by both of their parents.(not my daughter's kids) I am in full agreement that kids should be removed from parents that care more about drugs than their kids. And there's a special place in hell for the parents that neglect or abuse their kids.
@@theneens5535 I’m sorry that you’ve gone through that nightmare, it’s tough..I can only imagine..I have 4 older children and 8 grandkids ,and the lord forbid that the courts would have to decide their well being, I would die trying to protect them from this type of thing..as most of us would. Take care.
@@angelnewfoundlife812 thank you. Two of the kids are her older brother's that she got custody of because of drug use by both of their parents. That's why we were so angry and frustrated by the false report. We had gone through the court to get custody, keeping them out of foster care and making sure they were safe and loved. To be accused by someone who knew their history just added to that frustration and anger. The kids became very wary of anyone outside of our immediate family for over a year. They still aren't very comfortable around strangers even after a couple of years.
Also feel so sorry for the kids when the mom says things like "YOU took my kids away", denying responsibility for her own actions ,and not addressing the fact that she's failing drug tests and her boyfriend/whatever is acting like a lunatic.
It reminds me of when I got my first bad review at work. You can stamp your feet and have a tantrum saying you did nothing wrong. Or you can read it honestly, own what you can improve, and if some of makes no sense just let it go. The later is how a mature person handles it.
Good one Mike! I really enjoy these thought provoking cases with true professionals practicing common sense Law in the face of absolute insanity. Hope for the system!
@@Wabajck I think he'd calmly excuse himself and walk away calmly and as soon as his door is shut hed calmly take them off and fold them into a perfect square putting the fire out completely. He; of course; has other matching pants and puts them on and returns to court with his new 'magic' pants. Doesn't acknowledge anyone's confusion specifically; just states that there was an issue that has now been resolved and Let's Continue Court.
This is what happens when people have zero self awareness and dont take responsibility for their actions. Everyone in the system here is trying to help these parents and they are their own worst enemies. I can see why the grandma wants to keep the kids away from the parents.
I work for CPS, and I am glad to see your commentary. So much of Dependency Court is confidential, that what people think goes on, is usually not correct. We all work to reunify children, but things like dirty hair tests get in our way.
There are thousands and thousands of good people who work in CPS, and law enforcement who do their best everyday, that we never hear about. It’s the ones who miserably and terribly fail that we hear about. Bad news will travel around the world before good news can move a country mile
As great as it is that you try to keep 'families' or whatever, some people really shouldn't have kids. Take it from me, irreparable harm can be done by continuing to force this 'family' bullshit. By all means, give people a chance to improve, but don't let preconceived notions of normalcy get in the way of what the child really needs.
Cps is hit and miss in my experience. My experiences with them have been very dependent on the case worker, but on average they are very female biased. Men have to have evidence to prove their innocence but for females it's the opposite, you must move mountains for a female to not pass a cps investigation.
What about every other child in history? You think this is bad? You haven't seen much of you think this is so damn sad. Humans arent perfect, and in fact are very flawed. This is tame compared to the last 10,000 years of parenting, and yet somehow we evolved and advanced to this point with all that poor parenting so maybe it's the nature of the planet and life within it to have problems like this and for everything not to be perfect all the time.
Worked as A CASA for several years. Parents on drugs was a common problem we encountered. Drug court here in Bexar County has been successful in reuniting families. It is an intense , concentrated effort to re-direct parents so that they become responsible parents once again.
Everything was going swimmingly until someone brought a fan into the hearing. Then the sh*t hit it! What a shame! I get so tired of adults putting themselves first! The father is passionate, but shakey. The kids are stuck in their parents selfish bullsh#t!! I want to believe that the mom is sincere. Thank you Mike!! I hope you had a blast in California!!! 🥰😁🌻
It’s fantastic that creators can get along and support each other. Thank you Mike for all of your hard work and for taking the time to explain the meaning of court proceedings and so on. I love the fact that you get to the point right away and for being such a awesome human being.
Not too far into the video, an anger management program was requested (more than once). Unfortunately, it became clear as to why. It is so sad that the children are victims, in such a situation.
Mr Mike, I just found your page here and am very impressed with your wisdom. I feel so badly for any children that are involved when parents are dealing with addictions, etc... Keep up the great work bringing us stories that we can truly sink into the material.I understand Miss Smith's frustrations. Yet it keeps going. Sad cases when kids are involved.
Thanks for sharing this. I don't enjoy watching families in this situation and with children who are being subjected to this kind of stuff. That being said, seeing how our system of justice can work with great professionals to serve society is pretty impressive, we don't live in Mad Max crazy land, thank goodness.
Taking 0 responsibility for their actions. Flying off the handle. No rational thoughts. Yeah, those kids are right where they need to be. Those two need to figure their shit out. There is a reason their kids aren’t with them.
One of the biggest lessons that parenting teaches us is that you can’t do it right while being totally self absorbed. These two just haven’t gotten it yet and maybe never will...poor kids
I run a group of grandparents raising grandchildren. We see things like this a lot. News flash - the grandparents don't want to raise another set a kids. We're old, we're tired, we want to be able to walk around the house naked and just take off on trips whenever we want. We're honestly doing what we believe to be in the best interest of the kids.
This is unbelievable! As a ex addict I took full responsibility when my mother threatened to take my kids I got up and got my shit together to get my kids back! And I couldn’t be mad at anybody but myself because ultimately I chose drugs during that time over my kids and fortunately my kids had people in their lives who cared enough to take them away from all the bs that came along with my addiction! Parents like this anger me to NO DAMN END! Where’s the accountability?
This was a tough one. You have to feel for the kids because I wouldn't want anyone near a father than volatile. And, yes, the court may have exacerbated his emotions, but that sort of reaction is likely to be brought to the fore when he is stressed/under pressure and kids don't need to see that. There are no winners in a case like this.
I grew up in a time when neither wives nor children were viewed as anything more than a possession of the father. If you ended up in the ER with a broken face, it was your fault for not being sufficiently obedient. That is NOT an exaggeration. I'm glad we've moved to a recognition of the damage - physical and mental - that can be done to children by their parents but remain underwhelmed by the resources we provide the victims.
“I will be filing my motion of withdrawal later today as well…” said the attorney, resignedly. A sad situation for the kids and the grandmom, but boy I laughed at that. When you hire a professional, be it a doctor, lawyer, plumber, electrician, take their advice.
This is a PERFECT example of the horrible choice and impact the latest Supreme Court ruling will have for people who are not fit to be parents. Not everyone should and can be a suitable parent, and when it's determined that they're not they flood the legal system with cases like this...and it looks like there will be TONS more to come in the near and distant future.
Please don’t drag that into this no matter what side you stand on that. This is a perfect example of two adults making poor choices from start to finish and unable to make adult choices. Nothing more nothing less.
@@Kjj316 Reality demands it. You can expect a deluge of cases being forced upon the legal system because people aren't ready or qualified to be parents, and now the law of the land is you have to take on the responsibilities of a parent even if you're not qualified or ready. Fact...at 15 years old the law says you can't adopt a child....16, 17, 18, 19, 20 years old...you can't adopt a child. But the "Supreme" Court just declared you are responsible for a child no matter what age you are if a man impregnates you. Nothing more, nothing less.
25:23 That's so true. I don't have contempt power in my hearings and people try to take advantage of that all the time. The only thing I can do is hang up on them.
You really are a wonderful, caring & compassionate bloke Mike & it's no wonder you have so many not just subscribers or fans but people like me who deeply appreciate, respect & admire you. Junkies are Junkies & people like me at 38 years clean in NA are just one shot away from being just like these two. These 2 are my people & those of us in recovery know them very well. We love them unconditionally & in "the Firm" as we call NA in Australia we're happy to go to sometimes ridiculous lengths to help them. They're both still using & have been caught out too by their probation officers. I'm certain some or even a bit more of their criticism of his Mum is for real but that's not the problem at all. They need to have been clean for at least a year before the kids are returned to them, sad to say & as that year unfolds better & longer periods can be safely spent with their kids. The Mum's crocodile or these days we might call them Amber tears are very quickly turned on & off & she's as toxic as the angry husband. I really wish I could help but NA has plenty of great people living very near them if they want help getting & staying clean.
You can be upset at a ruling. You can be pissed off. But blowing up in the court and not listening to your attorney does not show the court you are competent and appropriate to watch children. It does the exact opposite.
this was way too entertaining. I also hope these people get the help they need - but above all protect the kids. thanks for posting this. I can't get enough of this.
Wow absolutely unbelievable. Most sane people would do anything their lawyer says to re-gain custody of their kids. Absolutely amazing. If I was this judge, I would insist that all future hearings be in-person.
Interesting suggestion-to hold the hearings in-person. I imagine video makes it harder for unstable people to be influenced by the balanced energy of a judge with ‘judicial temperament’. In their own homes, where they are used to losing their composure, it must be much harder to summon and harness the humility needed for maintaining one’s composure during such highly-charged moments.
Mike, please follow this one up. I have got to know if these two can get their 💩 together. I know this situation sucks for them but they both acted like children in their own way. I have my doubts.
HOLY CRAP!! I have watched so many cases from Judge Middleton to Bryant. I have NEVER seen someone go off on a Judge like that! I always wondered what would happen if someone said, F YOU! Straight up to the Judge, then 💋 my butt! I'm shocked! 🤯 I have kids so I can relate to the emotions but I'm floored by this!
I cannot even sayyyyyy how much I want to see a CALENDAR from you and yout Tribe of Law sites that I am now totally addicted to watching daily!!!! As a professional musician I love you and your law friends SHARING your sites and celebrating each other. My band will come and play the calendar RELEASE party ..... or you come to Jacksonville Beach Florida!
I’ve been practicing in family court in New York City on the child protective side for 13 years. This was pretty bad, at least by degree, but not uncommon. As far as this judge’s visitation order goes, I would bet money that the mother lets the father join her when she has unsupervised visits. I see it allllll the time. The father is aggressive and bullying and the mom gives in, thinking, the kids are safe and no one will know and they miss their dad and the court’s wrong and he has the right to see his kids, blah blah blah. All the time.
@@DrummerJacob My ancestors were Ukrainian. My great-grandfather owned a farm outside of Kyiv. The Bolsheviks killed his entire family when he was out one day, so he left everything behind and emigrated. I'm sorry for displaying empathy, you jackass.
I mean, firefighters have calendars and swimsuit models have calendars. I think you could do lawyers calendars. Could call the series Laying Down the Law…
Wow….the father says his mother is nasty? These two are not parents. I have 2 kids and I would walk through hot coals, follow every instruction, take classes, have drug tests to be able to GET MY KIDS BACK! But guess what…? I never had my children taken away! Because I didn’t take drugs, I didn’t act violently, I didn’t drink, I didn’t shout at people trying to help my family!!! Sheesh….way to f*ck up! Nice to see your smiling face Mike 🥰
Had foster sibs...it's agonizing to note the utter stress they are under when walking through the door, not only the obvious abuse and or neglect, but just being plunked in the midst of the unknown. As a kid, having an unknown new sib....let's face it we have adapted to our own sibs, let's just say, differences. It would always take some time for each of us to be comfortable with one another, always hard for all of us kids when we had settled into one another, to bond, to then have to say good bye to one another...the worst was to say good bye, just to have them back again, cause their folks where found still to be unsuitable carers, stay for awhile, just to go back and again come to us. My mama a nurturer by nature, emphatic and did relate to each child within our own nature, but, rules, expectations and consequences. My papa, another kid to hug, to reprimand and or retreat, but engaged. Actually a good combo as far as human parenting goes, mind ya, the assessment of a grown and experienced parent, child of parents. Just as human beings are flawed, parenting can be flawed...so is our foster system. The clinical approach of a system designed and implemented... a macro to the micro of fam life...further still, the individual psyche of a human individual, especially children. We did as a fam adopt two sibs., both hard to place anywhere in the early 70s (my lil sis, bi racial, my lil bro, developmental challenge.) Our fam was... in terms of western vs eastern European vs elsewhere... religious, political, cultural even regionally, rural vs metro vs suburb and more so within each generation. Egad, we need to do better than...
Uhhh just sayin..as a transplant, east coast N&S to west coast, moved inland, an elder, a survivor of many a wedding, bbq in all.. a mile walk mind ya vs10m, been there , done that, wouldn't be a stretch...suffered a dire med event, heat prostration with an 8oz bottle of water, a leisurely walk of less than a mile. A hell of a wake up call. As far as weather, climate, our resistance there, the care of our off spring...Dang!
We need to introduce defendant September from one of your videos the other day to Attorney January. Who knows, they might hit it off and have a September-January romance...😁
Mike I’m so glad I stumbled on you great insight and great videos. Sad for the kids that clearly were in a bad environment. I understand that the systems goal is to get them back with their parents but that’s not always necessarily possible. Especially if the father has anger issues like that especially in court. To a judge. The fact that he flew off the handle means one of two things if not both. The children are not important enough to him where he feels like he needs to listen to the judge for he cannot keep it together for long enough to listen to the judge
It’s such a dead end in life. If you’re a single person and you want to stay drunk and high all day go for it. But to sacrifice your children? My parents were sober as judges and I need to hold that in gratitude.
Hair follicle test test for 90 days past of drug use. I agree the angry management classes should be issued . Give them another month or too to do the anger management classes is very important. The safety is the important protection of the children. You just seen the reaction of the parents. I worked at DHS seen bad and good this judge is right.
Wow. Brutal. Thanks for sharing though Mike. Compelling stuff. *One interesting thing, I'm curious what your opinion is* Mike: At 15:39 mom STARTS to complain ("....can I speak?") BUT dad's lawyer _immediately_ interrupts her with a request for the judge to clarify what time dad needs to go report to jail. Do you think the lawyer was trying to protect mom by speaking over her? Maybe trying to prevent a contempt order for her too?
And no-one brought up that she also told the Judge 'F-_- You' at 11:27 or so...... Not even those who wanted her to attend Anger Management classes due to the kind of messages that she leaves for them.
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It amazes me how they (and ppl like them) blame everyone but themselves for losing their kids! Still testing positive for drugs and that's one of the main reasons for losing them! But, they can't understand why they're not getting them back?! Unreal!
Even if I was upset, even if I was loosing my children temporarily, I would NEVER act like this in court. All they did was confirm the decision they made. Unbelievable smh🤦🏾♂️
Hi Mike!! I just started watching your videos literally about 2wks ago. I have to say… sometimes the things you laugh at aren’t too funny to me…BUT your laugh makes it funny. Then I catch myself laughing. Lol And no, I don’t mean I’m laughing AT YOU. You just have a fun laugh. Thank you for always making my day… for the last 2wks. Lol 😂
This judge seems like he has dealt with that behavior, before. He just stayed on track, and kept going along. The tone of his voice didn't even change. LOL
I sympathize with them being upset over not having custody of their children. But both of them having outbursts in court shows that they do need some type of anger management or that there is a substance abuse issue. Because no rational person would do something like that and only further hurt their chance of getting their children back. It's too bad.
It’s frustrating the mom dropped two F-bombs then the dad said shit and the judge only chastised the father. He should have addressed both not just dad.
From over here both parents come across as emotionally unstable, habitual drug users. Neither one seems to be a good parent, the father especially so. I'm surprised he only got 3 days in jail. I guess we need to see if he even shows up on time. I sympathize with CPS on this one. It must be so frustrating dealing with two hysterical adolescents. People like that make me wonder if folks should be forced to take an exam before they have kids.
I have been called to testify in several custody hearings with parents that are lack luster and their greatest savior is a fantastic child advocate. One of the children I have been involved with has since joined the Army and has completed college and is working on becoming a child advocate. It absolutely breaks my heart that some parents take for granted the joy of a child.
I understand the parents missing their kids and I understand people making mistakes but when your kids are taken away you must have done something really inappropriate or really bad. Once that happens, you must do everything , absolutely everything to get them back. When you invite the government into your home you’re at the mercy of the government!
The father really shot himself in the foot. If you're not able to control your temper and your habits you don't need to have your kids. When you decide to have children they need to come first over everything else until they're out in the world on their own.
Let's try to prove that we are good parents by becoming unhinged during a court proceeding.
Both of them are out of control
Yep!
@@edwardranno7119 ppppp
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Stupid and naive
This is so sad. I feel so bad for the kids. Growing up with parents who are addicts AND can't control their anger...extremely dangerous mix.
I know this may be a minor point, but this judge really impressed me when he stopped and asked Ms. Smith if she felt safe.
Agreed
Yes, I agree...
Agree!
Who was the weirdo lawyer that told her to mute?
I was just going to say the exact same thing. That was a great moment from that judge.
Mom dyed her hair to try and got over on a hair folical test and it sounds like dad didnt pass either. Then they both flip their lids during the hearing. This does NOT promote confidence in their parenting. The children need to be protected from the instability of their parents. Good on the people looking out for them and trying to provide a stable environment for them.
the guys lack of ability to stay still makes me suspect he is self medicating to deal with ADHD that he hasn't found a fix for.
@@chrisoakey9841 likely he doesn't know. And yes, as you say, just as likely he does know and hasn't found a groove that works yet
@@chrisoakey9841 i know afew people that whenever thy are on the phone talking thy dont even realize that thy pace back n forth and cant stay still,i dont know much about adhd but maybe its ah mix of him being mad or a habit and/or adhd
@@jeremyjones8872 you make a good point. I have tendencies toward that, and my kids and other relatives. But this looked more than that. But you could be correct.
A girl I was once friends with lost custody of her daughter due to her heroin addiction, and she showed up to court with flaming RED hair out of nowhere and the judge called out her attempt to avert a follicle test
This is common in family courts, where kids are at stake. Sadly to often the lack of control shown by parents is one of the reasons kids are not safe with them.
I've given the same advice to several people. The only way to win this is to do as you're told, be the bigger person, and document everything. Your kids will see through your nonsense and so will the court. Be the bigger person. Shape up.
Trevor's outburst and Ashley's vacillation, their mutual lack of impulse control, were two of the strongest reasons to continue this case. Ashley got reasonable after Trevor blew up, because she kind of HAD to. The judge was concerned whether Ashley felt safe; imagine whether the children feel safe if their father can go off so suddenly and explosively.
Absolutely!!
I disagree. You try to stay calm after your children are removed. Then try doing everything CPS asks and then they manipulate the information and lie to “win” their case. Unless you have been through it, you don’t understand how severely losing your children can destroy you and make you lose any sense of self control. (For the record, I went through this in a case where false allegations were made against us. We did not react like this and never would, but it taught me to have so much more compassion and understanding for how messed up the system is. It’s insanely hard to stay composed when your children are on the line.)
@@maishamurray8777 I'm so sorry that happened to your family, I imagine the feeling of helplessness was infuriating. Unfortunately, good parenting requires looking at the big picture and rising above your emotional reactions in terrible circumstances, which it sounds like you did. Mr. Ferris, however, clearly shows a pattern of not being able to control himself, which is why his lawyer was eager to make sure Ferris didn't talk, and why he withdrew. I also find it telling that he wasn't sharing a lawyer with Ms. Smith, even though it would be significantly cheaper, I can only guess that she refused to represent him. Ms. Smith dyed her hair to hide her continued drug use, and it sounds like she is just now able to provide adequate housing for her children, even though the case has been going on for months. It's very sad, and grueling for both of them, but the risk to the children seems very real.
@Maisha Murray these are not good parents, what happened to them was deserved. It is a VERY big concern to give them their kids back. And I'm going to assume you are just as terrible.
Yeah, you let CPS screw you over and jerk you around and everything you take 2 steps forward have them push you 3 back while you love your kids then when you get mad they hold it against you. Meanwhile they take kids and throw them in fostercare where they get abused.
As a father who raised three kids on my own, these parents, especially the father, cannot provide a stable environment for these kids. This behavior is emotional abuse to small children. I'm betting they're never going to be fit for parenthood.
“We had problems”.
Understatement. Of. The. Year.
How to prove that you need Anger Management in a few easy steps.
If they had any amount of self control then I imagine their children would have been back with them safe and sound a long time ago.
"Anger management" for people as damaged as this woman is a joke. She needs extensive trauma therapy. She's an emotionally volatile drug addict for a reason. People don't just do that, they do it to sedate emotional pain. No "anger management" course can help them. Sending people to ridiculous trainings and ineffective 12 step programs does nothing to heal whatever damage has been done, to cause someone to numb themselves with hard drugs or excessive amounts of alcohol. It actually applies to both of them.
Who needs Hollywood when we have people like this to watch on Law Talk With Mike on TH-cam!!! Thanks for another good time Mike!!!! ❤😂
If there is even the tiniest doubt that these people should have custody of their children back, then they shouldn't go back. Too often we see the results of what happens when children go back to parents who aren't fit. Huge kudos to Mr. Davis for standing up for the children and telling it like it is. Hats off to him! The parents can get bent out of shape all they want - this is no one's fault but their own...
I totally agree! I find it interesting that you hear all these good things about the parents from their attorneys but when Mr. Davis starts talking, you get the real deal.
Their behaviour here, in a public forum, in front of professionals who are deciding the case, raises massive concerns. Even if they aren't using drugs, the fact that they can't put their children's welfare before their own desire to have the children in their care shows that the judge's decision is correct. I understand that this is a very difficult situation for the parents,but if they don't understand that this behaviour is only validating the attorney's view that there are still major concerns, one has to wonder at their ability to meet the needs of the children. They don't seem to realise that it's not about them, the needs of the children are the primary concern and bawling and shouting when you don't get your own way is not the way that emotionally mature adults behave.
@@carlnightingale8687 that's a really great point, if they can't even at least put on a goody 2 shoes act for a judge IN COURT, then how do they act when nobody else is watching?
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My daughter was a foster parent, she had the two children for 2 yrs, they went back with mom for 9 months and we're back with my daughter for another two years. They have now been back with mom for 4 1/2 yrs and all seems to be ok
can't imagine the stress for the attorney when they have an out of control client like this.
The 15:30 comment of, "I will be filing my motion of withdrawal shortly, Your Honor," with such resignation by the father's attorney is one of the most damning things in this hearing to me.
It's one thing to be frustrated with the courts or even be ordered to jail for contempt, but when your family law attorney wants to drop you (when family law attorneys are used to putting up with angry and emotional clients), you KNOW you have messed up.
@@jayschafer1760 yep. definitely caught that. if this guys like this in court, imagine what he's like in informal settings
@@cherveny I just hope the attorney is either getting paid by the state or got paid by the client up front.
Boy was he cool as a cucumber or what? Bravo to him. Not a waiver in his voice, or a hint of anger. Just business.
You need to check out the Blandino videos. That's stress right there! Haha
@16:17 - "Rick Flair, appearing on behalf of my client, your honor."
This is Crazy. That judge is in PERFECT control of his court. He is carefully examining each item point by point and this dim bulb blows the whole thing with a tantrum. It's also a good example of how much just being unable to wait your turn can ruin you in court.
I want to agree with and underscore what you said about the court's contempt power ... I'm seeing a distressing decrease in its use, including in the in-court sessions with horrifying outbursts going unchecked.
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if the courts are still backlogged, I can understand trying to use it less.
@@arndnaj ... yes ... as is often the case in life, it is a balancing act....
@D Smyth to an extent it does. The court isn't a public square. It's not a public forum. It's not a stage. You're not allowed to flip off the court without consequence. You are not allowed to interrupt everyone whenever you want to. You are not allowed to put on a public performance in a courtroom. The court has a purpose, because of the court's purpose, it gets to set rules, decorum. If you do not respect the court rules and decorum, they have the power, and reasonably so, to force you to respect them. The court has the power to enforce its rules, else it would be complete anarchy and nothing would get done. If you do want to not be subject to court rules, you do have options.
One option, stop breaking the law. Another option, respect the court rules and decorum, and everything will go smoothly- having an attorney represent you will make the process much smoother. Another option, pay the fines or make a deal with the prosecution. There are options to limit the time in which you will be subject to the court.
But telling the judge that he's an asshole, saying fuck your rules to the court, being defiant of the court's authority when you are the one who fucked up, will reasonably get you charged with contempt of court. The court is not a soapbox.
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She quit crying very quickly. I get it. I've been there. It sucks. But grow up, put your kids first, take accountability and get your shit together. Great judge. Also, poor attorney! He tried so hard!
Nah apparently it's more effective to take yourself off mute so the judge can hear you weep
I found it to be extremely manipulative because she calmed down quick once the father got taken out
@@CyanGreyFox that may well have been her response to the father's anger outbursts, and more a sign of emotional trauma than manipulation.
Hard situation, great Judge…and a hung over Mike to narrate. Loved it!
I think that is a good assessment 😂
Both parents go bonkers (displaying the need for anger management) & say everyone is "lying on them". How does a hair follicle test for drugs have anything to do with someone else lying on them!!??
I recently went from being a foster mom of over three years to a permanent guardianship. I thought we had drama with our case, but it was nothing compared to this.
It always amazes me when grown adults can’t control their emotions. Exactly what does this man think he accomplished by yelling and cursing at the judge? There was zero upside to venting his spleen like that. Like a child throwing a tantrum.
think of it as an extension of the fight or flight response. There is not much thought in the moment or for the consequences. Also drugs make impulse control go out the window
Have you ever had a child taken friend you for any reason ?
@@angelnewfoundlife812 no I haven't had one taken, however an ex of my daughter tried to get CPS to believe that meth was being used and given to my grandkids. We had to be interviewed, have our home inspected, and drug test given to everyone including the kids. Needless to say, the tests were negative but had to be repeated for 60 days. Meanwhile, the kids were scared to death and we were angry at the false report. They closed the case after all the tests were negative and they obtained further information on the accuser. He actually was on meth and now his kids are being investigated for being abused by another relative and also neglect by both of their parents.(not my daughter's kids) I am in full agreement that kids should be removed from parents that care more about drugs than their kids. And there's a special place in hell for the parents that neglect or abuse their kids.
@@theneens5535 I’m sorry that you’ve gone through that nightmare, it’s tough..I can only imagine..I have 4 older children and 8 grandkids ,and the lord forbid that the courts would have to decide their well being, I would die trying to protect them from this type of thing..as most of us would. Take care.
@@angelnewfoundlife812 thank you. Two of the kids are her older brother's that she got custody of because of drug use by both of their parents. That's why we were so angry and frustrated by the false report. We had gone through the court to get custody, keeping them out of foster care and making sure they were safe and loved. To be accused by someone who knew their history just added to that frustration and anger. The kids became very wary of anyone outside of our immediate family for over a year. They still aren't very comfortable around strangers even after a couple of years.
Also feel so sorry for the kids when the mom says things like "YOU took my kids away", denying responsibility for her own actions ,and not addressing the fact that she's failing drug tests and her boyfriend/whatever is acting like a lunatic.
Agree...
It reminds me of when I got my first bad review at work. You can stamp your feet and have a tantrum saying you did nothing wrong. Or you can read it honestly, own what you can improve, and if some of makes no sense just let it go. The later is how a mature person handles it.
Boyfriend/whatever is called a FATHER. Hope that clears it up for you.
Those are the ones who just don't have what it takes to parent emotionally healthy children so of course wouldn't retain custody.
@@j2geek Not HER father...
Good one Mike! I really enjoy these thought provoking cases with true professionals practicing common sense Law in the face of absolute insanity. Hope for the system!
That judge is a great example of self control. He did not even bat an eye.
I understand the emotions surrounding our children, but DAYUM! He needs to get it together for the sake of the little ones.
I think I speak for more than a few of us when I say that we need tipsy Mike pictures from the weekend's festivities. 😁
Amazing how parents will fight for their kids and even die for them. But they wont stop doing drugs for them.
Bingo! But drugs are more important.
Wow, what an incredibly patient and level judge. While emotional judges are fun to watch this guy exudes professionalism.
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Almost to an insane amount. Mans pants could catch fire and I think he would calmly sit and await assistance
@@Wabajck I think he'd calmly excuse himself and walk away calmly and as soon as his door is shut hed calmly take them off and fold them into a perfect square putting the fire out completely. He; of course; has other matching pants and puts them on and returns to court with his new 'magic' pants. Doesn't acknowledge anyone's confusion specifically; just states that there was an issue that has now been resolved and Let's Continue Court.
The polar opposite of Judge Marabel, who will see the fire, think about it for 20 minutes of radio silence, then throw gas on it.
I really like him as well.
This is what happens when people have zero self awareness and dont take responsibility for their actions. Everyone in the system here is trying to help these parents and they are their own worst enemies. I can see why the grandma wants to keep the kids away from the parents.
I work for CPS, and I am glad to see your commentary. So much of Dependency Court is confidential, that what people think goes on, is usually not correct. We all work to reunify children, but things like dirty hair tests get in our way.
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All I ever hear is horror stories about CPS. This was a great demonstration of how they really help, act professionally and do the right thing.
There are thousands and thousands of good people who work in CPS, and law enforcement who do their best everyday, that we never hear about. It’s the ones who miserably and terribly fail that we hear about. Bad news will travel around the world before good news can move a country mile
As great as it is that you try to keep 'families' or whatever, some people really shouldn't have kids. Take it from me, irreparable harm can be done by continuing to force this 'family' bullshit. By all means, give people a chance to improve, but don't let preconceived notions of normalcy get in the way of what the child really needs.
Cps is hit and miss in my experience. My experiences with them have been very dependent on the case worker, but on average they are very female biased. Men have to have evidence to prove their innocence but for females it's the opposite, you must move mountains for a female to not pass a cps investigation.
Can you imagine what those poor children have seen in their young lives. So damn sad.
What about every other child in history? You think this is bad? You haven't seen much of you think this is so damn sad.
Humans arent perfect, and in fact are very flawed. This is tame compared to the last 10,000 years of parenting, and yet somehow we evolved and advanced to this point with all that poor parenting so maybe it's the nature of the planet and life within it to have problems like this and for everything not to be perfect all the time.
Worked as A CASA for several years. Parents on drugs was a common problem we encountered. Drug court here in Bexar County has been successful in reuniting families. It is an intense , concentrated effort to re-direct parents so that they become responsible parents once again.
Thank God for judges like him. He has to protect the kids.
Everything was going swimmingly until someone brought a fan into the hearing. Then the sh*t hit it!
What a shame! I get so tired of adults putting themselves first! The father is passionate, but shakey. The kids are stuck in their parents selfish bullsh#t!! I want to believe that the mom is sincere.
Thank you Mike!! I hope you had a blast in California!!!
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Passionate... that's a weird way to spell "dangerous"
It’s fantastic that creators can get along and support each other. Thank you Mike for all of your hard work and for taking the time to explain the meaning of court proceedings and so on. I love the fact that you get to the point right away and for being such a awesome human being.
Awww 😘
Not too far into the video, an anger management program was requested (more than once). Unfortunately, it became clear as to why. It is so sad that the children are victims, in such a situation.
There’s no hope for any idiot that would choose to scream at the court and wear a wife beater on screen!
Wow, those are gems of parents. I’m so sad the kids don’t get to be around these sweet, kindhearted people.
Mr Mike, I just found your page here and am very impressed with your wisdom. I feel so badly for any children that are involved when parents are dealing with addictions, etc... Keep up the great work bringing us stories that we can truly sink into the material.I understand Miss Smith's frustrations. Yet it keeps going. Sad cases when kids are involved.
Thank You
Ashley is histrionic and seemingly manipulative. The court is 100% correct to wait it out a bit and get anger management counseling.
The father is showing example of why anger management should be required.
Ashley didn't get Anger Management ordered..... Yet.
Did you watch this video beyond the first few minutes?
Thanks for sharing this. I don't enjoy watching families in this situation and with children who are being subjected to this kind of stuff. That being said, seeing how our system of justice can work with great professionals to serve society is pretty impressive, we don't live in Mad Max crazy land, thank goodness.
This was an entertaining rewatch. Makes me appreciate all that the lawyers and judges have to witness day in and day out to do their jobs.
Taking 0 responsibility for their actions. Flying off the handle. No rational thoughts. Yeah, those kids are right where they need to be. Those two need to figure their shit out. There is a reason their kids aren’t with them.
One of the biggest lessons that parenting teaches us is that you can’t do it right while being totally self absorbed. These two just haven’t gotten it yet and maybe never will...poor kids
So many parents get away with so much, it’s nice to see that these idiots are being held to account.
I run a group of grandparents raising grandchildren. We see things like this a lot. News flash - the grandparents don't want to raise another set a kids. We're old, we're tired, we want to be able to walk around the house naked and just take off on trips whenever we want. We're honestly doing what we believe to be in the best interest of the kids.
Everyone involved in this hearing impressed me with their professionalism....the 2 parents excepted of course. ;)
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This is unbelievable! As a ex addict I took full responsibility when my mother threatened to take my kids I got up and got my shit together to get my kids back! And I couldn’t be mad at anybody but myself because ultimately I chose drugs during that time over my kids and fortunately my kids had people in their lives who cared enough to take them away from all the bs that came along with my addiction! Parents like this anger me to NO DAMN END! Where’s the accountability?
This was a tough one. You have to feel for the kids because I wouldn't want anyone near a father than volatile. And, yes, the court may have exacerbated his emotions, but that sort of reaction is likely to be brought to the fore when he is stressed/under pressure and kids don't need to see that. There are no winners in a case like this.
I grew up in a time when neither wives nor children were viewed as anything more than a possession of the father. If you ended up in the ER with a broken face, it was your fault for not being sufficiently obedient. That is NOT an exaggeration. I'm glad we've moved to a recognition of the damage - physical and mental - that can be done to children by their parents but remain underwhelmed by the resources we provide the victims.
I knew Attorney Collins was going to withdraw the minute he shut his notebook.
“I will be filing my motion of withdrawal later today as well…” said the attorney, resignedly. A sad situation for the kids and the grandmom, but boy I laughed at that. When you hire a professional, be it a doctor, lawyer, plumber, electrician, take their advice.
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This is a PERFECT example of the horrible choice and impact the latest Supreme Court ruling will have for people who are not fit to be parents. Not everyone should and can be a suitable parent, and when it's determined that they're not they flood the legal system with cases like this...and it looks like there will be TONS more to come in the near and distant future.
Please don’t drag that into this no matter what side you stand on that. This is a perfect example of two adults making poor choices from start to finish and unable to make adult choices. Nothing more nothing less.
@@Kjj316 more parents who should not have had kids. More cases in family court. I agree with Bull.
@@1WitchyBitch abortion has nothing to do with regulating who should and shouldn’t have parents.
@@1WitchyBitch yeah let’s murder them because they are gonna have bad parents. I agree with you.
@@Kjj316 Reality demands it. You can expect a deluge of cases being forced upon the legal system because people aren't ready or qualified to be parents, and now the law of the land is you have to take on the responsibilities of a parent even if you're not qualified or ready. Fact...at 15 years old the law says you can't adopt a child....16, 17, 18, 19, 20 years old...you can't adopt a child. But the "Supreme" Court just declared you are responsible for a child no matter what age you are if a man impregnates you. Nothing more, nothing less.
25:23 That's so true. I don't have contempt power in my hearings and people try to take advantage of that all the time. The only thing I can do is hang up on them.
You really are a wonderful, caring & compassionate bloke Mike & it's no wonder you have so many not just subscribers or fans but people like me who deeply appreciate, respect & admire you.
Junkies are Junkies & people like me at 38 years clean in NA are just one shot away from being just like these two.
These 2 are my people & those of us in recovery know them very well.
We love them unconditionally & in "the Firm" as we call NA in Australia we're happy to go to sometimes ridiculous lengths to help them.
They're both still using & have been caught out too by their probation officers.
I'm certain some or even a bit more of their criticism of his Mum is for real but that's not the problem at all.
They need to have been clean for at least a year before the kids are returned to them, sad to say & as that year unfolds better & longer periods can be safely spent with their kids.
The Mum's crocodile or these days we might call them Amber tears are very quickly turned on & off & she's as toxic as the angry husband.
I really wish I could help but NA has plenty of great people living very near them if they want help getting & staying clean.
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I wish there was a channel like this for Washington State!!! Ty for your show!
You can be upset at a ruling. You can be pissed off. But blowing up in the court and not listening to your attorney does not show the court you are competent and appropriate to watch children. It does the exact opposite.
this was way too entertaining. I also hope these people get the help they need - but above all protect the kids. thanks for posting this. I can't get enough of this.
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Wow absolutely unbelievable. Most sane people would do anything their lawyer says to re-gain custody of their kids. Absolutely amazing. If I was this judge, I would insist that all future hearings be in-person.
Interesting suggestion-to hold the hearings in-person. I imagine video makes it harder for unstable people to be influenced by the balanced energy of a judge with ‘judicial temperament’. In their own homes, where they are used to losing their composure, it must be much harder to summon and harness the humility needed for maintaining one’s composure during such highly-charged moments.
I love this judge. I watch him. I love that he asked if she was safe. He is a VERY reasonable and fair judge
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Mike, please follow this one up. I have got to know if these two can get their 💩 together. I know this situation sucks for them but they both acted like children in their own way. I have my doubts.
Mom’s crocodile tears …, the parents are sooo out of control
HOLY CRAP!! I have watched so many cases from Judge Middleton to Bryant. I have NEVER seen someone go off on a Judge like that! I always wondered what would happen if someone said, F YOU! Straight up to the Judge, then 💋 my butt! I'm shocked! 🤯 I have kids so I can relate to the emotions but I'm floored by this!
I cannot even sayyyyyy how much I want to see a CALENDAR from you and yout Tribe of Law sites that I am now totally addicted to watching daily!!!! As a professional musician I love you and your law friends SHARING your sites and celebrating each other. My band will come and play the calendar RELEASE party ..... or you come to Jacksonville Beach Florida!
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I’ve been practicing in family court in New York City on the child protective side for 13 years. This was pretty bad, at least by degree, but not uncommon. As far as this judge’s visitation order goes, I would bet money that the mother lets the father join her when she has unsupervised visits. I see it allllll the time. The father is aggressive and bullying and the mom gives in, thinking, the kids are safe and no one will know and they miss their dad and the court’s wrong and he has the right to see his kids, blah blah blah. All the time.
I love your virtue signaling avatar. I love people who are for the current thing. I bet in 2020 your profile pic was black.
@@DrummerJacob My ancestors were Ukrainian. My great-grandfather owned a farm outside of Kyiv. The Bolsheviks killed his entire family when he was out one day, so he left everything behind and emigrated. I'm sorry for displaying empathy, you jackass.
Wow, that dude just went Ric flair in the middle of the court case. Woooo!
I mean, firefighters have calendars and swimsuit models have calendars. I think you could do lawyers calendars. Could call the series Laying Down the Law…
😂😂😂 worst calendar ever
@@LawTalkWithMike awe! C’mon! It would sell!
@@LawTalkWithMike I'd buy one for the laughs.
Brillant idea and Calendar name.
The attorney is doing the passive “SHUT UP!” while trying to put out the fire.
Wow….the father says his mother is nasty?
These two are not parents.
I have 2 kids and I would walk through hot coals, follow every instruction, take classes, have drug tests to be able to GET MY KIDS BACK!
But guess what…? I never had my children taken away!
Because I didn’t take drugs, I didn’t act violently, I didn’t drink, I didn’t shout at people trying to help my family!!!
Sheesh….way to f*ck up!
Nice to see your smiling face Mike 🥰
Thanks for your Channel. I found you through Legal Bytes. You are my favorite show from that show!
Had foster sibs...it's agonizing to note the utter stress they are under when walking through the door, not only the obvious abuse and or neglect, but just being plunked in the midst of the unknown. As a kid, having an unknown new sib....let's face it we have adapted to our own sibs, let's just say, differences. It would always take some time for each of us to be comfortable with one another, always hard for all of us kids when we had settled into one another, to bond, to then have to say good bye to one another...the worst was to say good bye, just to have them back again, cause their folks where found still to be unsuitable carers, stay for awhile, just to go back and again come to us. My mama a nurturer by nature, emphatic and did relate to each child within our own nature, but, rules, expectations and consequences. My papa, another kid to hug, to reprimand and or retreat, but engaged. Actually a good combo as far as human parenting goes, mind ya, the assessment of a grown and experienced parent, child of parents. Just as human beings are flawed, parenting can be flawed...so is our foster system. The clinical approach of a system designed and implemented... a macro to the micro of fam life...further still, the individual psyche of a human individual, especially children. We did as a fam adopt two sibs., both hard to place anywhere in the early 70s (my lil sis, bi racial, my lil bro, developmental challenge.) Our fam was... in terms of western vs eastern European vs elsewhere... religious, political, cultural even regionally, rural vs metro vs suburb and more so within each generation. Egad, we need to do better than...
Uhhh just sayin..as a transplant, east coast N&S to west coast, moved inland, an elder, a survivor of many a wedding, bbq in all.. a mile walk mind ya vs10m, been there , done that, wouldn't be a stretch...suffered a dire med event, heat prostration with an 8oz bottle of water, a leisurely walk of less than a mile. A hell of a wake up call. As far as weather, climate, our resistance there, the care of our off spring...Dang!
With all the cases you've covered, I wish more judges used their ability to hold people in contempt. Glad you're having a great time 😘😘
We need to introduce defendant September from one of your videos the other day to Attorney January.
Who knows, they might hit it off and have a September-January romance...😁
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Mike I’m so glad I stumbled on you great insight and great videos. Sad for the kids that clearly were in a bad environment. I understand that the systems goal is to get them back with their parents but that’s not always necessarily possible. Especially if the father has anger issues like that especially in court. To a judge. The fact that he flew off the handle means one of two things if not both. The children are not important enough to him where he feels like he needs to listen to the judge for he cannot keep it together for long enough to listen to the judge
If you don't stop doing drugs you're going to have NO standing in the court. WTF do these parents expect?
It’s such a dead end in life. If you’re a single person and you want to stay drunk and high all day go for it. But to sacrifice your children? My parents were sober as judges and I need to hold that in gratitude.
"None of it, NONE OF IT MATTERS!!!" 🤣
Hair follicle test test for 90 days past of drug use. I agree the angry management classes should be issued . Give them another month or too to do the anger management classes is very important. The safety is the important protection of the children. You just seen the reaction of the parents. I worked at DHS seen bad and good this judge is right.
I like your thoughts. Not saying all their problems will be solved in 30/60 days, but that is enough time to see progress in the right direction.
Judge Stuckey is amazing. Worked with him for several years and he was always fair and listened to all sides.
Wow. Brutal. Thanks for sharing though Mike. Compelling stuff.
*One interesting thing, I'm curious what your opinion is* Mike:
At 15:39 mom STARTS to complain ("....can I speak?") BUT dad's lawyer _immediately_ interrupts her with a request for the judge to clarify what time dad needs to go report to jail.
Do you think the lawyer was trying to protect mom by speaking over her? Maybe trying to prevent a contempt order for her too?
Absolutely
And no-one brought up that she also told the Judge 'F-_- You' at 11:27 or so...... Not even those who wanted her to attend Anger Management classes due to the kind of messages that she leaves for them.
Wow! Never thought I’d see one of these so close to home. I live in Guadalupe County.
Guadalupe county Texas. the county is mostly rural but it dose contain some of the suburban areas on the north east side of San Antonio. the county seat is in Seguin and pop as of 2020 is 172,706. interstate 10 passes thru Seguin as it runs between San Antonio and Houston
It amazes me how they (and ppl like them) blame everyone but themselves for losing their kids! Still testing positive for drugs and that's one of the main reasons for losing them! But, they can't understand why they're not getting them back?! Unreal!
Even if I was upset, even if I was loosing my children temporarily, I would NEVER act like this in court. All they did was confirm the decision they made. Unbelievable smh🤦🏾♂️
Gotta hand it to everybody who works in family court, they're built of sterner stuff than most.
Hi Mike!!
I just started watching your videos literally about 2wks ago.
I have to say… sometimes the things you laugh at aren’t too funny to me…BUT your laugh makes it funny. Then I catch myself laughing. Lol
And no, I don’t mean I’m laughing AT YOU.
You just have a fun laugh.
Thank you for always making my day… for the last 2wks. Lol 😂
I myself find that getting mad and yelling and cussing at the court helps you get taken seriously!!
Yes and throw a chair! 😂
This judge seems like he has dealt with that behavior, before. He just stayed on track, and kept going along. The tone of his voice didn't even change. LOL
Mike, you should be by the pool drinking Margaritas! Instead you bring us video after video. You never stop working!
I did get some pool time in 🤩🌴
I mean if you can't not have a melt down in court before anything bad has happened to you then you're not ready for children.
I sympathize with them being upset over not having custody of their children. But both of them having outbursts in court shows that they do need some type of anger management or that there is a substance abuse issue. Because no rational person would do something like that and only further hurt their chance of getting their children back. It's too bad.
They can't even provide a court zoom meeting with a safe and appropriate environment, nevermind children.
It’s frustrating the mom dropped two F-bombs then the dad said shit and the judge only chastised the father. He should have addressed both not just dad.
I'm in Anaheim. It's nice to have you all in town!
Love it here!
From over here both parents come across as emotionally unstable, habitual drug users. Neither one seems to be a good parent, the father especially so. I'm surprised he only got 3 days in jail. I guess we need to see if he even shows up on time.
I sympathize with CPS on this one. It must be so frustrating dealing with two hysterical adolescents. People like that make me wonder if folks should be forced to take an exam before they have kids.
She so needed to mute her crying, I really don’t think those kids need to go home lol
She's very manipulative. She unmuted herself to let everyone how sad she was
Nothing says, "we're improving on our anger issues" like going ballistic during court hearings.
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I have been called to testify in several custody hearings with parents that are lack luster and their greatest savior is a fantastic child advocate. One of the children I have been involved with has since joined the Army and has completed college and is working on becoming a child advocate. It absolutely breaks my heart that some parents take for granted the joy of a child.
I understand the parents missing their kids and I understand people making mistakes but when your kids are taken away you must have done something really inappropriate or really bad. Once that happens, you must do everything , absolutely everything to get them back. When you invite the government into your home you’re at the mercy of the government!
I got a heart from creator then my grammar embarrassed me lol had to reread edit and maybe I’ll get the heart again lol
Court coordinators are awesome! They are all working to make it possible for the kids to be returned.
The father really shot himself in the foot. If you're not able to control your temper and your habits you don't need to have your kids. When you decide to have children they need to come first over everything else until they're out in the world on their own.
This judge is awesome and wise and professional and care about the family as a whole
Do we know if dad reported to jail? Thank you for explaining why the lawyer made a record that he had texted the details to the dad.