Forza 7 Nurburgring World Record Attempt - Porsche GT2 RS
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- Forza Motorsport 7 world record attempt of Nurburgring. So Porsche set a new record of 6:47.3 around the Nurburgring Nordschleife in their new GT2 RS. In this video I will try to emulate that record in the same car and circuit in Forza Motorsport 7.
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This should be the most agile car in the world but for Forza it's just a boat...
David M Yes, true. Watching it in the real life record makes me very jealous that i cant drive it like that in the game.
Sorry but the gt3rs is more agile ? The gt2rs just more horsepower
Shut up man
Tuning the spring rates, dampers, and ARBS in line with the cars weight bias fixes the handling characteristics that these cars have in fm7.
yea right so agile, rear engine rwd 💀
Maybe try it again with a suspension upgrade, since Turn10 thinks that the GT2 RS has the suspension of a rally car.
ZephyR Tried that myself, even upgraded the tires. Hardly made a difference.
"The GT2RS is apparently harder to handle than the gt3rs. You have to break on the gt2 in the corners" literally from the record driver. It's a harder car to drive, but it's much faster if you know how
In my opinion this is one of the worst handling cars on the game, i was very disappointed
Finally a decent game.
I agree I almost hated the game because it was trash in the demo but until I played a different car I had a very bad feel for forza because of this Porsche
FACR TORNZ 700hp rear engine rear wheel drive, and the first think most gamers do is turn off assists. No real race car driver would ever drive that car hard without the nannies. That's the only thing preventing this from being called the "widow maker 2."
Half the problem was severe understeer with a controller, since the game's stingy with turn in lock.
Jason-Garth Hue actually the real lap time was set by real race car drivers with assists off. Google the article on the lap if you don't believe me.
Forza's weight transfer design makes driving a high power rear engined car extremely difficult and frankly unrealistic.
Turn 10 did a horrible job representing this car.
Kill Ricers this is my dream car and I was looking forward to driving it and well it's very snappy on sim steering and is very hard to drive when I watched the video I was looking forward to it but now it's worn off
WheelieGoodGaming the actual car in the Nürburgring video looks so planted even when it slid a little bit here and there. In game it's just ridiculous
Kill Ricers a real 930 Turbo from the 80s handles better than this shit. The physics in Forza are a joke.
They did a horrible job with a lot of cars, if you compare your best lap times on a track like top gear let's say, EVERY car is either WAY too fast or WAY too slow.
It's an arcade game, all cars are like that. Get AC/PC2/RF2/Iracing if you want a sim.
It's an awful car. There is no way the real GT2 RS handles like that. It's like a fucking boat. I said this when the demo was out and a bunch of known Forza streamers said that they thought it was fine and it didn't need worked on. Mongs.
Yup, the handling is awful in the game when surely it would not be like that for real.
It is broken. A 930 Turbo from the 80s in real life handles better than this shit. Forza physics are a mess.
it seems like certain cars, the rs in this game is almost undriveable trying to do hot laps, same with a few corvettes, & my poor bmw m1 :/ so unstable.
Speaking of unstable... they still need to fix the memory leak issue on PC and if you play at anything above 60 fps it crashes... £80 for an awful game.
They really fucked up the physics. The 2015 Z06 in this game goes around the ring nearly 10 seconds faster than the RS. You're telling me a car with 50 less hp and 500 more pounds of weight is going to smoke a GT2 like that on EVERY track? Bs.
3:00 Steve, anyone can say anything, you'll always be the best tuna in the world.
NorbertBlackCat lel
This car scares new Forza players away with its awful handling
Good thing I thought all the sliding was my fault
Epic Taco Dude Yeah, as much as I love the GT2 RS, i feel like it isnt a suitable car to introduce the game to newcomers. It really isnt easy to drive and could be offputting to new players.
The legend has replied
Super GT honestly I think if the c7 grand sport, zl1 1le or the gtr nismo would've been better choices if t10 decided to add those cars in
"The GT2RS is apparently harder to handle than the gt3rs. You have to break on the gt2 in the corners" literally from the record driver. It's a harder car to drive, but it's much faster if you know how
I was pretty disappointed the first time I drove this car on Forza, after watching how good it looked in the real life Nurburgring video.. you are spot on in saying that this car handles weird, it's not like any other car in the game that I've driven so far
Yeah it handles very strangely. The Porsches have handled weirdly for a few games now. I think the physics overdo the rear engine placement and you get too much body roll and weight transfer.
Super GT they've kinda matched it to real life ...
I have a 911 3.2sc , in normal driving you dont notice it, but when you're driving a porsche hard , or on track, you have to slow down to the speed necessary BEFORE you turn in, or lift of before turn in, cause if you're going in to fast, or still pushing the gaspedal before turning, because of the rear bias there is no weight on the front wheels and you cant turn in without alot of understeer... you really have to work with the pendulum effect and master it to youre advantage...but that beeing said, mine's a '79 car, without electronic aids and stuff, and the older porsches in the game drive like that, but bewer porsches, especially the gt2rs shouldnt have that tendency AS much.
My brother has a 997.1 gt 3 rs trackcar and you barely notice that effect anymore, it's still there, but not like you feel it in the game, the way they just dont want to turn into the corner..
Arne Hurnik slow down untill you've reached entry speed, or lift throttle just before turn in to get weight over the frontwheels
@@nicolasdujardin9639 that is every car. Even front engine cars on accel are actually transferring weight to the rear. Which is why you'll sit the rear squat and the front lift (a reason why a camaro zl1 1le has extreme aero in the front is for cornering stability as just rear bias would unsettle the car at such high speeds.) And you never want to be just hitting the corners on accel unless it's a corner that will allow accel but where Forza was struggling was on any corner. It seems to lack front aero and have absolutely poor handling.
@@Super_GT they fixed it for horizon, Forza has good physics but never with rear engine cars.
The default tune is way to soft on this car. Try the following, I've gotten lots of positive feed back on it.
psi 28/28
camber -2.5/-1.5
toe 0/-.3
caster 7.0
ARBs 15/22
springs 640/960
ride height 5.2/5.3
rebound 8.7/13
bump 6.5/9.8
brakes 45/140
diff 35/70
Warren Thanks for The recommendations! Will give it a go
This guy is a legend
Not sure if you'll see this but I gave it a run.
I got 0.8 secs faster than my previous stock time on hockenheimring.
I can tell it's less stiff which is really nice, but there's no helping the sudden lack of grip at times sadly. Good tune though!
I added more positive toe in the front.. Helps a lot more with the Nurburgring (turn-in)
Gonna try this too, hoping to at least beat JackUltraGamer, your time is out of reach 😅
The Racing Monkey Give it a go! Sub 7 minutes is a Good benchmark challenge. 6:47 would be possible but only really for the very best players and with a good setup/tune.
Man I have had 3 attempts with all the settings to realism except braking arrows to help push the corner entry and I have only managed 7 mins 43......what setting is this? do you have assists on? as i have most of them off. Great video dude. Top driving!
When I eventually get 7 I'll give it a shot, managed to get 2nd in the world once maybe lighting will strike twice and I'll do it again
Jono Rx470 I did 5 laps with cosmetic dmg and breaking arrows today, the best one in 7:30. Pretgy hard to nail every part of the circuit
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I somehow forgot my password. I would love any tricks you can give me!
Good video. So glad you missed me twice
TheTireBarrier Good to know that you're there just in case.
God i hate how every car in forza seems to have some sort of shitty drift physics! They all just slide around as if the tires were made of solid rubber.
They had to make them drifty so Slaptrain could advertise the game for all the 12 years old hardcore drifters.
Yeah I thought I was the only one that noticed that drifting on forza is easy af😂 it’s not realistic
even the transmission in this game are not realistic, all these double clutch transmission are shifting way faster.
Solid rubber= no grip?? F1 cars have no grip?
Hans Bastiaanse so your telling me F1 tires have no air in them they're just solid chunks of rubber??
This was an actual achievement in GT5 to beat the Nissan GTR's time of 7.27. And you had to do it in Arcade mode so you couldn't fiddle with anything
Forza at it again with slow-shifting DCT cars. Seriously, the assy 5R55W 5-speed auto in my 2002 Ford Explorer shifts at that speed!
Hate all the bumping in multiplayer omg!!! Why do the cars weight less in multiplayer? Because in single player you can't ram off the driveatar . I'm sick of this shit. Game didn't changed a bit from 6 apart of the graphics.
daniel min Good point actually, the drivatars seem to weigh like 5000 tonnes.
They need to bring back public lobbies...that you can create...just like Forza 3...Forced Matchmaking has been destroying this game...it's complete garbage online
online is toxic. first corner of every race is chaos. bumping and crashes are exaggerated and barriers are in place to crash your car hard causing 180's and overly difficult recoveries. The game is just awful.
Forza completey messed up this car. Its meant to be the cover car as well, yet it handles and brakes like a Cayenne and the transmission feels as slow as a manual, not a super fast PDK like its meant to be.
HG504 Agreed, the handling is awful. Its kinda been like this for a while in Forza with their Porsches. It like the overdo the mid or rear engine physics and you get excessive body roll and weight transfer.
Turn down bump stiffness to around 3.0 and increased downforce. That helped me on FM6 when I tuned my GT3RS
ROADRUNN3R1998 no
That makes it softer. We don't want
w o b b l y w h e e l s
The spaces between the letters emphasizing the
w o b b l e
Porsche's are not easy cars to drive at the limit... the GT2 RS has 700bhp and is RWD so of course it's going to be a handful.
in real life they adjusted the rear wing to 900lb and its set to 450lb stock... the cup 2 tire on that car had been especially design for that circuit to beat the lap record... in game we have 690hp but they say 700hp on the real car... they probably dont run with a full fuel tank... the suspension was also tuned for that circuit... the guy that did the lap record did it without any assist... but the other guys where doing it with assist
YaBoiScoots
www.porsche.com/international/models/911/911-gt2-rs/911-gt2-rs/
Ahh didn’t know! Thanks!
These tires come stock with the car so basically no adjustment here. Also they have to run on stock for the record. Of course suspension can be adjust by the system but only what the car allows you to do. Same with the rear spoiler system.
@@andreas_kuenster cup 2 is between sport and race compound in fm7. Rear wing is locked in stock. U also dont have rear steering wheels, electric diff and a lot of other little things in forza.
Porsche has spent billions over the last 40+ years perfecting the backwards layout of a 911. Forzas physics engines have no idea how either lol. Every rear engine porsche in every forza drives like shit.
Michael Allen Its not the car its you the cars have much more weight on the rear tires to accelerate faster out of corners that makes it so hard if youre not used to it
Armin K nope, sorry. This is the only game where porsches drive like shit. It's forza.
Hey mate. I watch your videos days now and I can say that I'm in love with your channel! Keep up the dope work!
i appreciate the clarification that smashing into a wall would affect your car's performance in real life
wasn't sure on that one
you should do 50 laps one of them have to be near perfect :D i believe
labo b hahaha, ive had enough of nurburgring to do another 50!!!!!
true. worth a try keep up the amazing content :)
Glad you said this Porsche is difficult to drive, been finding it a mare in the demo
James Morrison Yeah, i was worried when playing the demo thinking that the game has poor physics but turns out that its just this car.
Am I the i my one who is really confused as to how people can effectively play racing sims in third person?
cjmck Youre not no, but I never commit to saying that Forza Motorsport is a true sim in the same way that Assetto Corsa and rFactor are.
cjmck you can't see anything in first person. I can't stand first person
I actually find it harder in first person, in third person you get a lot more view and can see where the car is at all times and is easy to see and get close to the corners.
I use hood view I never use over head cam anymore then again I'm on AC most of the time and using over head is Just UGHHH
you can't see shit
Yeah the physics aren't the greatest in this game.. Try assetto corsa
Just the forza physics doesn't work good with the porsches, they never have.
All this physics talk is just conjecture and nothing more.
MrZyLeXx I'm talking in general. Forza isn't a simulator to begin with, just saying the physics in terms of realism really suck
I agree that the physics of AC are better than Forza. Thing is though, i never really try to compare the 2 because i dont treat Forza as an all out simulator. I dont think Forza is meant to be 100% realistic as it has to be somewhat approachable for newcomers.
Super GT Right, because racing fans should enjoy all racing games. And of course I like Forza, I see it as more of a Sim-arcade game. You are a pretty good driver however, do you own a racing wheel?
It sounds (and looks) like it has a locked differential, when cornering you can hear the tire skipping across the track
I couldn't agree more
This car definitely is a difficult car to drive. It's feels very heavy. Great power out of corners but I feel like it needs a proper tune. And for them doing a world record in real life. That's not to say that who knows if they tuned the suspension and different tire pressure? Or was the Porsche bone stock?
Spawn and Batman Im not 100% sure but I would imagine that they changed the tyre pressures and suspension. Which is what I tried to do also.
From the Wikipedia page:
Porsche conducted test. OEM Michelin Pilot Sport Cup 2 'N2', OEM 'Weissach Package', OEM deletion of audio and communication system, Porsche Motorsport bucket seat and harness on driver's side.
2:00 I recognize that corner from watching Nürburgring fail videos
This car has terrible lift off oversteer. Does not like to trail brake in stock form at all either
1:25 LOL it doesn't even look easy to drive on video! its porpoising like hell!! but with skill you can kill it!
I have a challenge for you GT, take the Pagani Zonda R on the ring and try to tame it to beat its lap time.
This car handles like cargo ship in the game but In horizon 4 it handles actually very nicely. Kind of annoying
Porsche fans say they're brilliant, and that the 911 has 40 years of refinement behind it.
I say they put the engine in the wrong place to start with, and spent the next 40 years trying to fix it!
Private Custard lol
Private Custard not true because if you look how perfect the cars are
The kind of people that think a 911 is perfect at the limit, are the kinds of people that spend time in the company of a dominatrix without a safe word.
Loooooool!!!
Private Custard Porsche holds the 2nd place spot currently at the Nurburgring.
I'm not sure which settings Forza gives you to play with, but if the car is bouncing about and unsettled a lot of that can be tweaked with suspension tuning. For example adding some more fast rebound damping is the quick and dirty way to stop it bouncing about. If its unsettled through weight transfer then slow rebound damping would improve that. A better tune would tweak the compression damping too but that becomes more of a science, though slow compression damping can help mediate the weight transfer. It won't change the ultimate weight shift but it will slow it down a tad to keep the car more stable around the medium speed corners at a loss to the desired fast weight responsiveness of low speed corners. In short a lot of the reported problems with this car sound like they're simply down to suspension settings. I don't play the game so if Forza doesn't allow you to tweak those settings then its going to be far more ingrained into the car's handling, but if you can then you should almost certainly be able to iron out the flaws. That said the course is also particularly bumpy and would do far better with a track specific tune (true of most cars on the track).
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I love this car.. at first I absolutely hated it but then I figured out how to drive it , got used to the handling and now its one of my favourite cars in the game.. looks best in red imo
the record was done in a yellow one...
Beambox what is your point?
he probably chose the yellow color in reference to the original car
I can't stand this view. I prefer road only view
Awesome video as always! You've inspired me to make a tune for this car specifically optimized for this track (all I do in this game is tune and test drive). The Nürburgring is a tough track to set record times on, the times you set were really solid! I'm going to give you a run for your money, watch out! :P
At the 38 second mark, how does the right hand wing mirror reflect the kerb on the left???? Spooky.
Smashed jackultragamers time. this is the difference between driving and racing
The reason why they stop the time out of the last turn is because of safety reasons, every other lap record done by any other car was with the same rule.
Fm7 with fh5 handling would be so much better
Ew no
random question : what makes you use the controller for forza horizon 3 and forza 7?
Bornindafire 1. Easier 2. Faster
This car's stock suspension settings are awful. Have a look at the suspension travel telemetry and it's really hard to believe that the real thing bottoms out over any surface imperfections.
The car is set up to be extremely stiff. The dampers are set to be comparable to their GT Cup cars.
I know you've got it in you to get the lap man! Top driving with the GT2 RS!! Even with the wobble into the wall
Need to get Rossi on this task!
The Michelin's would actually be closest to Sport tires in this game.
if not sport + tires or something cause they're really close to ''race'' tires.
I hate when Porsches decide to do wheelies and send you into a wall in Forza
Muhannad Aldajan Hahhah, they do have far too much weight transfer!!
Prob just need a better tune lol
ForzaWiz Yeah, i think a 6.47 is possible but only with a good tune (and a very good driver)
I know were you lost the 5 secs. The real car is everywhere 1,60934 times faster than you....
I’ve tried & tried & tried, the closest I could come was 6.51.663, passing the irl finish line in just 6.45 :/ I don’t believe it can be done.
tried online team adventure on fh4 again and i completely get why you don't like it and why you don't do live commentary. it's been decades since i was so angry at a game. i didn't even think i still had it in me. god damnit online adventures suck so freaking much. such wasted potential. gonna try fm7 when the penalties get implemented and leave forza horizon to the way i have always played it: single player or private lobbies with friends.
My local Microsoft store has a demo racing wheel now, so I played the Porsche on it and it was a nightmare. The demo doesn't even let you use the racing truck now.
That car is bouncing around like a pogo stick. I'm impressed by the way you are handling it. Good job SuperGT
I have never played Forza but it looks like getting lines wrong and driving over curbs is very forgiving.
Just gonna say at least you weren't in the ford gt. Forza ruined that car. It rides like a hellcat is all I'm gonna say.
part of the reason this car is fucked in this game is that the aero that comes with it stock is literally just cosmetic for whatever reason. once you pop on the forza wing, it seems to help a ton despite the fact that the car already has a rear wing
how are people doing 5 minute runs in this car, stock? hackers?
It'a a shame you talk so much. Dont get me wrong but it would be better to watch it without talking
Typical arcade handling car.I unsubscribed.
Stiffen the suspension to stop the bounciness, maybe the roll bars too
I know this video is old but now I wanna try this when I get home lol
Were you using the wheel with this one or controller? I don’t have the Xbox wheel hooked up rn 😂
Hey SuperGT, do Porshces in Forza 7 have the same power down understeer they had in Forza 6? Forza 6, driving any porsche meant you had to wait soooooo long to get on the power because the weight transferring to the back, accompanied with the engine in the back, felt like it would simply lift the front tires off the track and it would go straight. Does forza 7 still have the same issue?
Zack Pagan I've only driven the carerra GT and this gt2 in Forza 7 and imo it's quite the opposite with this car. It seems to have quite a bit of lift off oversteer. It doesnt have any understeering issues from my limited experience with it. If anything you just have to feather the throttle in 2nd and 3rd to avoid oversteer.
My only real summary would be that the cars feel almost the same - so the Porsches still have very strange and overdone handling. The rear engine Porsches have felt weird for a few games now.
I loved how the GT3 RS 4.0 felt in forza 6. Haven't drove in 7 but I absolutely loved the handling with a bit of tweaking. Yeah it's different but they have soooo much grip.
This was done with a controller. I did 7:44 in Cayman GT4 Clubsport with g920 wheel and shifter first person driving. No crash. Controller sucks.
For me, for "sim" or sim-ish games like forza i 100% can not drive open wheel cars or cars with very planted rear ends and loose front ends like the elise 190 for example in 3rd person, I MUST use 1st person for those but for most cars im much faster in 3rd person.
Porsche 911's generally drive very akward in Forza Motorsport games in my experience. It seems like the game always puts an extreme weight balance on the rear of the car because of the rear engine layout but in a VERY excessive manner. It always feels like the front wheels lose grip and often even completely loose contact, basically making a wheelie and the car undriveable.
Is the track so far from the realistic compared to GT Sport that I think has the most realistic tracks in a video game ever? FORZA 7 maps feel so "easy" without those hard turns/hairpins and so on that Nurburgring has..
How adjustable are the settings for the standard car?
How much records have you broke in forza 7
I'm way late to the party, but I'm so disappointed in this car. I'm a huge Porsche fan so I was excited for this, but it just handles like crap! I won't drive it.
more damping, less rebound, more caster angle.
FUCKFORZA
Do you play with a steering wheel or controller?
Why are people saying the car was “planted” in the WR video? The car was anything but planted. He rode curbs and you can see the suspension compressor at many parts of the video.
if you do a simple google search. you will find that the porsche that set the record was modified. forza wont let you modify for this challenge. i've done it before and i come within 3-5 seconds short simply because it's not possible nor is it realistic to achieve a time like that with a stock porsche,i think we all knew that was common sense to begin with.
They made a boat from GT2RS......just bad handling
drives exactly like forza 3.:P
Yea, Porsche's were extremely bad about that in Forza 4. You have to make the rear suspension stupidly stiff
Jack ultra movie ? PLaGiarIzed ? this smells fishy
Why have they changed the Visual engine it's looks like your going into worpspeed very off putting looks horrible
Why's everyone comparing this to the real car, Forza isn't a realistic sim, so of course it's not going to be anywhere near the same...
@Super GT Kern did it with the Manthay Racing suspension upgrades, not in a standard GT3RS.
This car doesn't handle like well in the game, I'm surprised since this is the cover car for the game.
How can you master the braking point without the suggestion line? It's the only assist that I can't turn off.
My fastest lap speed was around 9 minutes, i used my R35 and drifted and cut corners lmao. I crashed a lot, especially near the end.
I recorded one attempt also
Many of the cars in this game doesn't even perform close to their real life counterparts. This is the biggest example.
Every mid engine car in Forza is super weird cuz of all of the weight in the back.
I got 6.42 with a different car. I haven’t tried a Porsche but I can try
Try this in driving simulator not arcade game like Forza!!
GT sport so much better
WTF is that FOV in Forza games? Who can play garbage like that?
Color added at least 20 hp
ive noticed that cars in fm7 dont handle for shit, and if you dont drive smoothly youre fucked
What’s your controller set up? You got a wheel? What assists are on aside from the line?
No electronic driver aids... Very good! that's how we like to see it!!
I beat my friend who was in a lambo with a volvo sleeper. Only S1 class😂
Too much arcade.
External camera view.... no thanks.
In gt sport the 911 gt3 rs handles way better than this and it gets better if you put slicks on it
Do you have any tips for driving around the Nurburgring