I'm a little stunned at the hubris demonstrated in this proverbial high-five "we've done it" attitude over a single launch, of known components, several years late and a couple billion dollars over budget. I missed the last steps of Apollo by 9 years ... but have been a nut about the program my entire life. It has been my dream, even through severe illness, to hopefully live long enough to see man return to the moon live, in real time. But, at this rate, I fear the next people on the moon will likely be Chinese. We're talking about the greatest achievement ever in mankind's history on this earth. And I'm simply astonished at how far we've fallen behind in our ambitions, and perceptions of where we stand here, now, 60 years later ... and we've lost so much of our drive, knowhow, and expertise. They couldn't even recreate the F1 ENGINE - which was proposed - but they realized they no longer can do the crafting our engineers were doing 60 years ago with 100% reliability rates. Oh, we'll use the RS25 engines because it's smart? Highly advanced engines designed for years of repeat use? Just throw them away after running them at destruction levels? Because it's smart ... or because you couldn't come up with anything else? Our space fairing muscles as a nation have atrophied so much, we can't even innovate complex new designs that outperform 6 decades old equipment. I fear I shall perish before ever witnessing our species take that giant leap again. Either one of those outcomes brings me to tears - though for very different reasons.
One thing is that they don’t want to recreate an F1 engine partly because it’s just bad in some ways. It’s a Kerosene/Liquid oxygen fuel rich engine, suffered from not very great POGO oscillations on the Saturn V, had a fairly low combustion efficiency of around 90-93 percent, and also was purpose built for launch vehicles like the Saturn 1 and V and would be hard to integrate to another vehicle. The RS-25, despite being incredibly expensive, is by far the most efficient first stage rocket engine ever designed. Hydrolox (liquid hydrogen and oxygen fuel mixture) is such an incredibly efficient fuel mixture that the F1 looks really inefficient even compared the the Saturn V upper stages which used Hydrolox. (The J-2 engines) Infact NASA wanted the first stage of the Saturn V to be Hydrolox powered but if they did that it wouldn’t be able to fit inside of the Vehicle assembly building as it was already built when they had the idea for a Hydrolox first stage, which forced them to go with Kerosene instead. Just to show how high energy Hydrolox is, even if SpaceX tries to get every last bit of performance out of their raptor engine that they mathematically and physically can, it would still look quite inefficient to a Hydrolox engine as it uses methane. It’s physically impossible for methane/liquid oxygen to be higher energy than hydrogen/oxygen fuel mixtures. And for SLS, it’s already been designed around Hydrolox RS-25’s from the ground up, they can’t just redesign the whole rocket. And they are ok with having the RS-25’s being single use, as the launch cadence of SLS is so low that if they tried to make it reusable it would add tens of billions of extra dollars to the whole project, for very minimal return. Like for SpaceX it makes sense to make their engines and boosters reusable since they intend to launch rockets every week practically.
@@daryllect6659 The Chinese took photos of a couple Apollo sites from orbit to boast of their new lander. In April 2021 India's Chandrayaan-2 orbiter captured an image of the Apollo 11 Lunar Module Eagle descent stage. The orbiter's image of Tranquility Base, the Apollo 11 landing site, was released to the public in a presentation on September 3, 2021. A clear image of the remains of the lander can be seen casting a shadow.
@@rocoe9019 Your "education" = they told me so. The VARB fries equipment on space telescopes and is powerful enough to keep the entire earth's atmosphere in place AND YOU BELIEVE HUMAN BEINGS PASSED THROUGH THIS HARMLESSLY?!! NASA claims that astronauts received very minimal harmless levels of radiation from the VARB, yet no country has sent living beings into or beyond the VARB since 1972??!! The VARB fries machinery but you believe that it does absolutely nothing to human flesh BECAUSE NASA TOLD YOU SO, and you're simple minded enough to believe all of that?!! Then you tell someone to educate themselves??!! Forget "education," you need to learn the art of critical thinking. smh
The first half of this documentary is lengthy and factual. But many watchers are not looking for a video to watch half the night. So hopefully the next one will cut to the chase sooner. Many people might just turn the channel before watching the whole thing.
Imagine a rocket like your car or an airplane. It's much cheaper to buy a car once and maintain it than just buy a new car every trip. Discarding the entire vehicle only became the norm for spaceflight because, until about 15 or so years ago, it was thought that landing and refurbishing a rocket was impossible. The Space Shuttle was an early attempt at reusability, but it was still far too expensive as it discarded most of the actual rocket components. Companies like Space X and Blue Origin have now proved it's very possible to entirely refurbish a rocket and launch it again within a very rapid timeframe (SpaceX's current record is around 2 days with the Falcon 9).
A few years before this video would have made me pretty excited and optimistic about that Moon and even Mars can be reached by humans in our lifetime. But seeing the slow development speed of space tech I doubt that we'll be ever able to pull this trick... Even SpaceX is lagging way behind their schedule, not to mention Boeing and other less known actors... We are dreaming about running a marathon while we cannot even crawl. Even if we manage to build a lunar base, there will be immense danger everywhere. A small spark or small mistake will lead to the demolition of the whole base and probably would cost the life of everybody up there. Will there be any resource or public trust left to rebuild it? If yes, how much will it cost and how long will it take? Can they do mining so profitable that it compensates for the risks? Will there be enough smart and dedicated scientists, engineers, workers and astronauts who apply for the job instead of staring at their smart phones melting their brain? Honestly, I feel we have more urgent things to do on planet Earth... The video was fun to watch though! I appreciate that JFK's speech was skipped. It's getting boring.
In very old story Planet MARS has been said to be filled of Alien but now the Planet is completely vaccancy one can find KOHINOOR And related Research material even efficiency.
America: We are trying to go there now but we still got some kinks to iron out....Amm we staged it 56 years ago to beat the Soviets in the Space Race....Ammmmm yeah we fooled yall with some recordings, crappy photos and wacky vidoes.....Sowweeee
@@GOSCrb Why, you must be referring to me, the person who says that anyone capable of critical thought knows, beyond a doubt, that no human has ever been on the lunar surface.
people like you act like the van allen belts are some sort of "gotcha!" moment. the belts have differing layers and levels of radiation, the crafts pass through them fairly quickly and in low radiation spots. you can find answers in minutes if you cared enough instead of blindly believing you're right because you heard something on the internet
There's no dates no information on this. This is happening now and why what are they going to do up there ? And I thought NASA was shut down for space exploration ?
"Returning" ? Seriously? One cannot "return" to a place where they've never been. The Chinese may well be the first country to put a human on the moon. The US never has.
"Back to the moon"? One cannot go back to a place where one has never been, and no humans have been on the lunar surface. If you believe they have, NASA sends their love.
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 he was already supposed to have been there last year and he's blown the budget and starship 7 just blew up! You really need to educate yourself and get over your celebrity worship! 😂😂😂😂
The helium 3 alone is worth the investment. It is needed for certain fusion reactors and we do not have enough sources on earth to cover our future needs.
@@daryllect6659 funny, simple jack! Considering you think Russia helped america fake the landings you really shouldn't be sarcastic at someone else asinine conspiracy theory😂
@@rocoe9019 What puzzles me is why it's so important to you "believers" that I believe that man has been on the lunar surface. Explain to me why that means so much to you. My thought is that you are too embarrassed to have to admit that you've been duped.
To say Americans never landed on the moon 5 and a half decades ago is blasphemy LMAO.....Why would America lie to win the space race against those evil Communist?!?!?!?Those evil Communist who were getting ahead of America by launching that basketball sized crappy Sputnik Satellite and sending the frist man Yuri Gagarin into space.....Why lie to win and show the world America is better than the Evil Empire??....
to begin with uda would build space station without Russians who had thier space station since 80s when Russian astrauants worked in space for duration of one year
I'm a little stunned at the hubris demonstrated in this proverbial high-five "we've done it" attitude over a single launch, of known components, several years late and a couple billion dollars over budget.
I missed the last steps of Apollo by 9 years ... but have been a nut about the program my entire life. It has been my dream, even through severe illness, to hopefully live long enough to see man return to the moon live, in real time. But, at this rate, I fear the next people on the moon will likely be Chinese.
We're talking about the greatest achievement ever in mankind's history on this earth. And I'm simply astonished at how far we've fallen behind in our ambitions, and perceptions of where we stand here, now, 60 years later ... and we've lost so much of our drive, knowhow, and expertise.
They couldn't even recreate the F1 ENGINE - which was proposed - but they realized they no longer can do the crafting our engineers were doing 60 years ago with 100% reliability rates.
Oh, we'll use the RS25 engines because it's smart? Highly advanced engines designed for years of repeat use? Just throw them away after running them at destruction levels? Because it's smart ... or because you couldn't come up with anything else?
Our space fairing muscles as a nation have atrophied so much, we can't even innovate complex new designs that outperform 6 decades old equipment.
I fear I shall perish before ever witnessing our species take that giant leap again. Either one of those outcomes brings me to tears - though for very different reasons.
Anyone capable of critical thought knows that no human has been on the lunar surface.
@@daryllect6659 Except even the Russians and the Chinese acknowledge that we went there.
One thing is that they don’t want to recreate an F1 engine partly because it’s just bad in some ways.
It’s a Kerosene/Liquid oxygen fuel rich engine, suffered from not very great POGO oscillations on the Saturn V, had a fairly low combustion efficiency of around 90-93 percent, and also was purpose built for launch vehicles like the Saturn 1 and V and would be hard to integrate to another vehicle. The RS-25, despite being incredibly expensive, is by far the most efficient first stage rocket engine ever designed. Hydrolox (liquid hydrogen and oxygen fuel mixture) is such an incredibly efficient fuel mixture that the F1 looks really inefficient even compared the the Saturn V upper stages which used Hydrolox. (The J-2 engines)
Infact NASA wanted the first stage of the Saturn V to be Hydrolox powered but if they did that it wouldn’t be able to fit inside of the Vehicle assembly building as it was already built when they had the idea for a Hydrolox first stage, which forced them to go with Kerosene instead.
Just to show how high energy Hydrolox is, even if SpaceX tries to get every last bit of performance out of their raptor engine that they mathematically and physically can, it would still look quite inefficient to a Hydrolox engine as it uses methane. It’s physically impossible for methane/liquid oxygen to be higher energy than hydrogen/oxygen fuel mixtures.
And for SLS, it’s already been designed around Hydrolox RS-25’s from the ground up, they can’t just redesign the whole rocket.
And they are ok with having the RS-25’s being single use, as the launch cadence of SLS is so low that if they tried to make it reusable it would add tens of billions of extra dollars to the whole project, for very minimal return. Like for SpaceX it makes sense to make their engines and boosters reusable since they intend to launch rockets every week practically.
@ Uh huh. Simply because they can't prove we didn't.
@@daryllect6659 The Chinese took photos of a couple Apollo sites from orbit to boast of their new lander. In April 2021 India's Chandrayaan-2 orbiter captured an image of the Apollo 11 Lunar Module Eagle descent stage. The orbiter's image of Tranquility Base, the Apollo 11 landing site, was released to the public in a presentation on September 3, 2021. A clear image of the remains of the lander can be seen casting a shadow.
Bellissimo! Bellissimo!!!🚀🚀🚀🌓
Interesting to hear this, especially when it displays older thinking, and an old paradigm.
Van Allen hard to get by.
No not really! Educate yourself
@@rocoe9019 Your "education" = they told me so. The VARB fries equipment on space telescopes and is powerful enough to keep the entire earth's atmosphere in place AND YOU BELIEVE HUMAN BEINGS PASSED THROUGH THIS HARMLESSLY?!! NASA claims that astronauts received very minimal harmless levels of radiation from the VARB, yet no country has sent living beings into or beyond the VARB since 1972??!! The VARB fries machinery but you believe that it does absolutely nothing to human flesh BECAUSE NASA TOLD YOU SO, and you're simple minded enough to believe all of that?!! Then you tell someone to educate themselves??!! Forget "education," you need to learn the art of critical thinking. smh
The first half of this documentary is lengthy and factual. But many watchers are not looking for a video to watch half the night. So hopefully the next one will cut to the chase sooner. Many people might just turn the channel before watching the whole thing.
With reusability comes expenses? Isn’t it supposed to be cheaper?
Imagine a rocket like your car or an airplane. It's much cheaper to buy a car once and maintain it than just buy a new car every trip.
Discarding the entire vehicle only became the norm for spaceflight because, until about 15 or so years ago, it was thought that landing and refurbishing a rocket was impossible. The Space Shuttle was an early attempt at reusability, but it was still far too expensive as it discarded most of the actual rocket components.
Companies like Space X and Blue Origin have now proved it's very possible to entirely refurbish a rocket and launch it again within a very rapid timeframe (SpaceX's current record is around 2 days with the Falcon 9).
A few years before this video would have made me pretty excited and optimistic about that Moon and even Mars can be reached by humans in our lifetime. But seeing the slow development speed of space tech I doubt that we'll be ever able to pull this trick...
Even SpaceX is lagging way behind their schedule, not to mention Boeing and other less known actors...
We are dreaming about running a marathon while we cannot even crawl.
Even if we manage to build a lunar base, there will be immense danger everywhere. A small spark or small mistake will lead to the demolition of the whole base and probably would cost the life of everybody up there. Will there be any resource or public trust left to rebuild it? If yes, how much will it cost and how long will it take?
Can they do mining so profitable that it compensates for the risks?
Will there be enough smart and dedicated scientists, engineers, workers and astronauts who apply for the job instead of staring at their smart phones melting their brain?
Honestly, I feel we have more urgent things to do on planet Earth...
The video was fun to watch though! I appreciate that JFK's speech was skipped. It's getting boring.
😮😮❤❤Apolo 11 eu tinha 1 ano de vida, astrólogo do brasil😮😮❤❤
😮😮❤❤space eua is especial at me,astrólogo from brasil😮😮❤❤
In very old story Planet MARS has been said to be filled of Alien but now the Planet is completely vaccancy one can find KOHINOOR And related Research material even efficiency.
😮😮❤❤meu apelido is London,eu represento o Brasil,sou astrologo😮😮❤❤
Go SpaceX
Sir. WILLIAM SHAKESPEARE SAID :" THERE IS METHOD IN MY MADNESS."
Back to Rahu. Not the Moon that we know.
Cant go yet anyways. Solar weather
Resume @49:00
NASA needs to build the ultimate space travel vehicle. Will they? Can they?
Absolute blast this video enjoy it 👍🏼🤫🤣
Excuse the pun....🤣 Thanks for the awesome comment! Appreciate you watching!
Look forward to the lunar missions but it’s round two. For me nothing beats the majestic beauty of the Saturn V.
America: We are trying to go there now but we still got some kinks to iron out....Amm we staged it 56 years ago to beat the Soviets in the Space Race....Ammmmm yeah we fooled yall with some recordings, crappy photos and wacky vidoes.....Sowweeee
So tell me why is Russia helped america stage it and continues to help them cover it up?
Space is jump without disturbing
You have to bring a lot of stuff up there with you, I don't understand this at all
Behind you mean , it's the dark
If you fart in your spacesuit do you smell it 🤷♂️
Smell it? You’ll be trapped with it like it’s your new crewmate! 😂 🚀💨
First you have to get everything up there before you put people up there
One thing people van allen radiation belts
you're like the guy from that one meme
some random dude on the internet thinks hes smarter than thousands of people who dedicate their lives to this😭😭
@@GOSCrb Why, you must be referring to me, the person who says that anyone capable of critical thought knows, beyond a doubt, that no human has ever been on the lunar surface.
Clearly you've never seen or read anything about the van allen belt or the trajectory the craft took! How them windows tasting?
people like you act like the van allen belts are some sort of "gotcha!" moment. the belts have differing layers and levels of radiation, the crafts pass through them fairly quickly and in low radiation spots. you can find answers in minutes if you cared enough instead of blindly believing you're right because you heard something on the internet
@rocoe9019 it's you who's licking windows mate if you believe they went to the moon
There's no dates no information on this. This is happening now and why what are they going to do up there ? And I thought NASA was shut down for space exploration ?
Yeah I know for some people anything more than 5 minutes long is kinda hard to comprehend, so I feel you, bud.
NASA better get their ass into gear!! Or else China will be on the Moon before them returning!!😊😅
"Returning" ? Seriously?
One cannot "return" to a place where they've never been. The Chinese may well be the first country to put a human on the moon. The US never has.
@ daryllect6659 why u think that
Just another human pipedream as was the idea of Lunar colonies after 1969
El programa apolo fue una falta de respeto nunca se dio fue todo una falsa eso fue fingido ok
Your PICTURE QAULITY. YOU purposefully
MADE IT CRAP Y........ I HAVE A 4K TV/MONITOR AND 3D TV/MONITOR . SO I ASK Y IN THIS ERA OF TECHNOLOGY
Men never landed on the moon
Prove it!
@@kisha1682 the rover jumps the same height it should on earth - it should bounce 6 times higher - we call this 'gravity'
"Back to the moon"?
One cannot go back to a place where one has never been, and no humans have been on the lunar surface. If you believe they have, NASA sends their love.
Musk will go next year and in style I hope
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 he was already supposed to have been there last year and he's blown the budget and starship 7 just blew up! You really need to educate yourself and get over your celebrity worship! 😂😂😂😂
Extremely expensive ,there is no reason to go, been there done that
The helium 3 alone is worth the investment. It is needed for certain fusion reactors and we do not have enough sources on earth to cover our future needs.
No. Anyone capable of critical thought knows that no human has ever been on the lunar surface.
earth is destined to be destroyed by meteor - there is every reason to do it, and no reason not to do it - except that last time it was faked
FAKEEEEEEEEEEE WE NEVER WENT THERE ON THAT MISSION THIS CALLED A MOVIE INDUSTRY ☝🏽
Why do you think Russia is helping america keep up the fake moon landings, what benefit is it to Russia?
The moon belongs to the grey's
The Grey's what?
@MisterHowzat the grey's only life 262,000 miles from US
@MisterHowzat trust me,they are extremely intelligent,there mode of transportation is Interdimentaltravel
No, there are no "greys", and the plural of your imaginary "grey" is "greys", not "grey's".
@daryllect6659 wrong answers JACK!!!!!!!!!
If so why would they launch a rocket any ways if its soo fake😊
Better hurry up before Trump scrbs the mission.
Money wasted sending stuff to the moon.....😂
😂😂😂
Sad. We ALREADY HAVE BASES ON THE MOON.
Uh huh. Sure we do, Skippy. Surrrre we do.
@@daryllect6659 funny, simple jack! Considering you think Russia helped america fake the landings you really shouldn't be sarcastic at someone else asinine conspiracy theory😂
@@rocoe9019 What puzzles me is why it's so important to you "believers" that I believe that man has been on the lunar surface.
Explain to me why that means so much to you.
My thought is that you are too embarrassed to have to admit that you've been duped.
@@daryllect6659 avoiding answering and a classic case of projecting! Truly pathetic
Cant go back to where ya never been
Stop embarrassing yourself.
It sounds like you've made up your mind no matter what.
That's right. Anyone capable of critical thought knows, without a doubt, that no human has ever been on the lunar surface.
@@daryllect6659critical thinking and moon landing hoaxers shouldn’t go together kinda like critical thinking and flat earthers
To say Americans never landed on the moon 5 and a half decades ago is blasphemy LMAO.....Why would America lie to win the space race against those evil Communist?!?!?!?Those evil Communist who were getting ahead of America by launching that basketball sized crappy Sputnik Satellite and sending the frist man Yuri Gagarin into space.....Why lie to win and show the world America is better than the Evil Empire??....
to begin with uda would build space station without Russians who had thier space station since 80s when Russian astrauants worked in space for duration of one year
We never went there
Then what did the people see who witnessed theses shuttle crafts taking off?! They we’re pretty loud!
@ Uh. hey! Sparky! The shuttle didn't go to the moon.
Hey C-t maybe you and simple jack can work together to answer me why you think Russia helped america fake the moon landings?
It wont happen in 2 years 5 yrars 10years...its will not happen ever