love this video, I wonder how many people are aware of this and exploit misdirections to get value when they are in fact strong vs a player who can see through the basic speech play at the level shown in the video
You really break it down well. I'm going to break down what you broke down to make sure I got it. First you take what they say. eg. "Not very convincing." Then you interpret what they say. "Not very convincing" = I'm only betting because I think you are weak and not because I have a strong hand. Then you categorize that into either representing weakness or representing strength. Since a player will rarely draw attention to the possibility of having a weak hand, it is not likely that they would represent themselves as weak, so be cautious as it is likely they are attempting to induce over-confidence in you and get you to bet at them. I guess the misdirection works when the listener thinks the speaker accidentally revealed too much. You should do a video on pros/seasoned players using it as a reverse tell. I recall Hellmuth doing it by saying, "you take the next one, I'll take this one". Great video. Going to buy the book. Edit: ah, nuts, you're not selling it on amazon. I don't want to enter my credit info. Are you ever going to sell it on amazon?
Oh yee of little faiths'. Everyone knows Pocket 9's have more equity than pocket Q's. 9 is 1 away from a perfect number, and they're 1 card away from the river. They're 1 card away from showdown. Do I have to say anymore? #SarcasmCauseSomePeopleMightThinkImSerious
So if someone says "Yeah, I'm gonna go all in cuz I don't think you have the spades'" then they probably have something like 9's full and I should only call with A's full or better right?
This is great, subscribed, I'm gun online then I get to live and freeze up or feel myself showing nervousness, while I'll play bigger pots online or be heads up for 20k difference in prize money and be relaxed as anything, must be the boxer shorts.
Yeah, decided not to just because it would have made the video a lot longer. And when you get down to it, there's no value to knowing (although I agree it's fun and satisfying to see a story through).
No. I like that he stays on topic. So many others get caught up in trying to be an analyzer, commentator or entertainer they forget their focus. I've subscribed. Hopefully, the AI figures out how to give me more gold like this. There's so much more info on the game these days that it's even more interesting to study.
I like your videos. At 10:00 -- Jamie Gold also stands up to give another 'reverse tell' that he's 'ready to leave if he's knocked out.' It's obvious though from Jamie's behavior overall though that he's extremely relaxed and confident.
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+Oliver Florent They play more after they win for the obvious reason that they have been rewarded for it and have the means. This combined with selection bias.
great video man I'll check out your book. I've recently moved from playing online to playing live and it's my own behaviour I'm worried about also picking up on others. I've already become pretty good at Reading certain physical tells but it's great to hear a little about what to look out for verbally. adding this information in could really help a decision.
I have a simple philosophy at the table... "Fear the speech." It's almost never a bluff when someone gives you those kinds of speeches. And you usually know if it's a genuine verbal reaction vs. a manufactured statement.
Verbal misdirection about your cards is entirely okay and in the ethical boundaries of poker. Of course some people may still be bugged by it, but no experienced players will be bugged. It can become a problem when you are lying about an action you've taken (for example, saying you meant to call when putting out raising chips), as that is perceived as outside the ethical boundaries of the game. But yeah, as long as you aren't being annoying about it (doing it every hand, for example), you shouldn't feel bad about lying about your cards to deceive an opponent.
So just tell the truth at the table while bluffing? What would happen if I told everyone at the table exactly what I had in my hand during a bluff and outright told everyone I didn’t have shit. Would people believe me or do you think they’d fold out of disbelief? I’ve always wanted to win a standoff on a bluff doing something like that. Either that or win with a strong hand all the while telling the people at the table exactly what I had. Am I autistic or am I onto something here?
john smith on this show Fishman is the big cannon, an amateur who gets the chance to play with the pros, its hosted by pokerstars i think, check it out
You might enjoy my book Verbal Poker Tells. One of the things I talk about in there is that when people tell you a specific hand, it is more likely than you'd think that they are being truthful. One reason is for the reason you state; people know that others aren't likely to believe them. Another reason is that most people actually dislike lying (at least when they know their cards might still be exposed/seen). So yeah I do listen when people tell me what they have. Not saying I always believe them, but these are all factors to consider.
very useful video. also, i would be very interested in a video where you try to falsify your own theories. i'm sure there are examples where weak is weak and strong is strong. just for balance, because life is not black and white.
How do we use this to our advatage besides folding? poker players know this shit, right? They've seen it all. So if I want someone to raise or make a big pot cause I got a big hand, maybe playing little mind games and saying the truth will make them think I'm actually weak and they'll actually do raise or continue? Haha.
I didn't think Jamie Gold was verbally tricky. He basically told people what he had but they didn't believe him. His douche-baggery caused people to doubt him. I won a small tourney because the guy with the most chips bragged about his cards. He NEVER bluffed. Any time he was in, he verbalized his strength, so I would fold and bide my time.
Jamie Gold is such a douchebag. Im so glad we dont see him anymore. Probly talked his way to bankruptcy after winning 12 mil n playing in the high stakes games after the World series.
great video man I'll check out your book. I've recently moved from playing online to playing live and it's my own behaviour I'm worried about also picking up on others. I've already become pretty good at Reading certain physical tells but it's great to hear a little about what to look out for verbally. adding this information in could really help a decision.
love this video, I wonder how many people are aware of this and exploit misdirections to get value when they are in fact strong vs a player who can see through the basic speech play at the level shown in the video
You really break it down well. I'm going to break down what you broke down to make sure I got it. First you take what they say. eg. "Not very convincing." Then you interpret what they say. "Not very convincing" = I'm only betting because I think you are weak and not because I have a strong hand. Then you categorize that into either representing weakness or representing strength. Since a player will rarely draw attention to the possibility of having a weak hand, it is not likely that they would represent themselves as weak, so be cautious as it is likely they are attempting to induce over-confidence in you and get you to bet at them. I guess the misdirection works when the listener thinks the speaker accidentally revealed too much. You should do a video on pros/seasoned players using it as a reverse tell. I recall Hellmuth doing it by saying, "you take the next one, I'll take this one". Great video. Going to buy the book. Edit: ah, nuts, you're not selling it on amazon. I don't want to enter my credit info. Are you ever going to sell it on amazon?
Pause at 13:28. How can those percentages next to the hands make sense?
+MortimerYoung I noticed that too. The calculator messed up there.
It's flipped
Oh yee of little faiths'. Everyone knows Pocket 9's have more equity than pocket Q's. 9 is 1 away from a perfect number, and they're 1 card away from the river. They're 1 card away from showdown. Do I have to say anymore? #SarcasmCauseSomePeopleMightThinkImSerious
The raw outs for Q's are a lot closer to 70% than 12%. Miscalculated not flipped.
How does Farha have better percentage? 13:34
So if someone says "Yeah, I'm gonna go all in cuz I don't think you have the spades'" then they probably have something like 9's full and I should only call with A's full or better right?
lowkey. Was thinking the excact same thing. done.
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This is great, subscribed, I'm gun online then I get to live and freeze up or feel myself showing nervousness, while I'll play bigger pots online or be heads up for 20k difference in prize money and be relaxed as anything, must be the boxer shorts.
zach, your stuff is great. appreciate it.
The crazy part is that after these plays, this shit actually seems kind of obvious, but during the play it's not.
I think you'd like my book Verbal Poker Tells. Even the act of writing it and researching it made me much better at spotting this stuff in the moment.
Hindsight tends to work that way
wish you would have showed till the end of the hand. Wanted to see who won
Yeah, decided not to just because it would have made the video a lot longer. And when you get down to it, there's no value to knowing (although I agree it's fun and satisfying to see a story through).
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No. I like that he stays on topic. So many others get caught up in trying to be an analyzer, commentator or entertainer they forget their focus. I've subscribed. Hopefully, the AI figures out how to give me more gold like this. There's so much more info on the game these days that it's even more interesting to study.
I like your videos. At 10:00 -- Jamie Gold also stands up to give another 'reverse tell' that he's 'ready to leave if he's knocked out.' It's obvious though from Jamie's behavior overall though that he's extremely relaxed and confident.
+john smith Thanks man!
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+Oliver Florent They play more after they win for the obvious reason that they have been rewarded for it and have the means. This combined with selection bias.
john smith he basically luck boxed the whole tournament, didn't matter what he had, he always hit
cool point about how a bluffer never wants to weaken their own hand range - excellent!
excellent using hands we've all seen to make your points. excellent once again.
great video man I'll check out your book. I've recently moved from playing online to playing live and it's my own behaviour I'm worried about also picking up on others. I've already become pretty good at Reading certain physical tells but it's great to hear a little about what to look out for verbally. adding this information in could really help a decision.
I have a simple philosophy at the table... "Fear the speech." It's almost never a bluff when someone gives you those kinds of speeches. And you usually know if it's a genuine verbal reaction vs. a manufactured statement.
soulier also had a huge tell with that sigh before he raised
at the 4:30 mark, Phil calls his raise though, so it did actually work in this case rather then "weaken his range".
+killaplay300 Phil called precisely because of the perception of a weak range.
What's up with the percentages at 13.22
Flipped
indirectly "weakening" their hand range or indirectly "narrowing" their hand range?
smelling confidence is the key to poker. trusting you smelled it and action rational upon you assumptions is different.
So is it good or OK etiquette to use misdirection? Or can you get accused of angle shooting?
Verbal misdirection about your cards is entirely okay and in the ethical boundaries of poker. Of course some people may still be bugged by it, but no experienced players will be bugged. It can become a problem when you are lying about an action you've taken (for example, saying you meant to call when putting out raising chips), as that is perceived as outside the ethical boundaries of the game. But yeah, as long as you aren't being annoying about it (doing it every hand, for example), you shouldn't feel bad about lying about your cards to deceive an opponent.
@@ReadingPokerTells - I thought that might be the case, thanks for clarifying. 👍🏻👍🏻
great video good info. Thanks for the insight
Very interesting, good video
Yeah I've basically just decided to not believe anything another player tells me during the hand
I would exploit that
Great video!
This is good stuff thank you for this.
Laliberte did a string bet. Never said raise, put the call in then put raise in after.
Please do something about the mic popping.
So just tell the truth at the table while bluffing? What would happen if I told everyone at the table exactly what I had in my hand during a bluff and outright told everyone I didn’t have shit. Would people believe me or do you think they’d fold out of disbelief? I’ve always wanted to win a standoff on a bluff doing something like that. Either that or win with a strong hand all the while telling the people at the table exactly what I had. Am I autistic or am I onto something here?
I got wrecked by a guy that said he got pocket aces. I didn't believe him. He had it
actually very informative video! :)
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Did Joe Hachem fold?! Haha what happened..
Wonderful video full of value wish I saw this two days ago haha
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Wow - that poker tell at 4:11 is so amateurish. How the hell did Fishman get on TV??
john smith on this show Fishman is the big cannon, an amateur who gets the chance to play with the pros, its hosted by pokerstars i think, check it out
+john smith He got lucky :)
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The best misdirection is to tell what you actually have. Most people won't believe you
You might enjoy my book Verbal Poker Tells. One of the things I talk about in there is that when people tell you a specific hand, it is more likely than you'd think that they are being truthful. One reason is for the reason you state; people know that others aren't likely to believe them. Another reason is that most people actually dislike lying (at least when they know their cards might still be exposed/seen). So yeah I do listen when people tell me what they have. Not saying I always believe them, but these are all factors to consider.
I thought you weren't allowed to tell anyone your exact hand? Or is that dependant on the casino?
What did Hellmuth do? Geez
You are right about Featherstone denigrating his own hand - but Hellmuth did it first.
very useful video. also, i would be very interested in a video where you try to falsify your own theories. i'm sure there are examples where weak is weak and strong is strong. just for balance, because life is not black and white.
so did they call or not. doh!
I thought about showing the whole hands but it would have made video a lot longer. Sorry!
wow man show the rest of the plays
I thought about it but it would have made video a lot longer. Sorry!
How do we use this to our advatage besides folding? poker players know this shit, right? They've seen it all. So if I want someone to raise or make a big pot cause I got a big hand, maybe playing little mind games and saying the truth will make them think I'm actually weak and they'll actually do raise or continue? Haha.
I give this video an A grade.
use a wind sock over your mike, stops all the pops you hear in this video
chip duyck or buy. A 10 dollar pop filter lol
I didn't think Jamie Gold was verbally tricky. He basically told people what he had but they didn't believe him. His douche-baggery caused people to doubt him. I won a small tourney because the guy with the most chips bragged about his cards. He NEVER bluffed. Any time he was in, he verbalized his strength, so I would fold and bide my time.
La Liberte doesn’t have the nuts. The nuts would be quad aces.
Gold did a stupid thing, he was directly implying his own hand was superstrong.
Did you just call Daniel Negreanu a recreational player?
Ok so now all you do is use misdirection when you have nothing haha
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Jamie Gold is such a douchebag. Im so glad we dont see him anymore. Probly talked his way to bankruptcy after winning 12 mil n playing in the high stakes games after the World series.
does rofl rhyme with waffle? ROFL
I tell that poker sucks
didnt sell a lot of those books did you. this was stupid.
How's Coldplay you dumbass
wow.. you are the first person to say that.... fucking idiot... not very original. LAME FAIL
How's Coldplay, Chris Martin?
ya... you are the very first person to say that. idiot
Your videos sucks I will never buy your book asshole
"I've been focusing on verbal poker tells lately because I'm working on a book called verbal poker tells."
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great video man I'll check out your book. I've recently moved from playing online to playing live and it's my own behaviour I'm worried about also picking up on others. I've already become pretty good at Reading certain physical tells but it's great to hear a little about what to look out for verbally. adding this information in could really help a decision.