Should You Buy a Heavy Oil Bowling Ball?? | Ballsplanations Ep.3
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This good video
Man I'm an old geezer and found this actually riveting. Mickey you keep making these for us bowlers. Knowledge is power as they say and thank you. TV Bowling Supply huh? Gotta check it out.
I feel like oil patterns are one of the least discussed topics, this was very helpful!
Love these type videos!! Appreciate all the info
I have been wondering about it for a long time, this is a nice explanation. will keep it in mind.
This is a great video. More of these explanation videos as well as get on the lane and show us the difference with bowling balls and this will differentiate you from all the other bowling channels bc this is something the community is missing.
Very informative! Most of us don't bowl on heavy patterns so getting this information is helpful for when we do!
I appreciate the info, Mike! Thanks again
Mikey keep your head up man. You’ve got the game to be a stud out there. I know this video is about heavy oil, but I think you’re gonna make some shows this year. It was a good informative video.
These was very very informative, thank you so much , you just got my sub !!!
Keep these videos coming! Very informative. Maybe you can show some shots where using different types of balls react in the heavy oil pattern. Visually might be easier for some, even though you explained very nicely.
I liked your explanation of cover stock verses core and where and how they dictate the ball movement. Very helpful.
I love your brother’s comment-> “This good video”. But to be honest, this good video.
Damn...I remember when all I needed to do was find the ball weight that felt good to me. Looks like it's a whole new game now. Picked a hell of a time to get back into it. Thanks for the informative lesson.
Good explanation, thank you! I keep one heavy oil ball around, but not always in the bag as I never get to use it on my local league shot as the oil is not heavy enough. I use it when I bowl tournaments at other places with heavy oil.
Great info, thanks, MT
AWESOME video love the info... seems right to me.
Thank you for explaining this. New to bowling here
Thank yew Mikey! 🤘
Great video, something many people definitely need to hear. The general public I've noticed has a tendency to have the wrong idea about what's considered heavy oil.
Well explained, Mikey.
great Video Mikey!!!! more like this please sir!! :)
good ballsplanations. you smart feller
Great stuff! If you can do a vid on ball motion, that would be dope!
yup, good info here. also the age of the lane surface matters, old surfaces have more friction built in
Very helpful information
Great video only thing I really think that could be added to the discussion is the viscosity of the types of oil
Excellent EXCELLENT video brother. I'll be referring folks to this during my Summer Sports Shot league. White Cheddar SMDH 😂
Great explanations. Thanks so much! Would love a discussion on why to choose a ball with a higher diff vs a higher intermediate diff. How does that affect shape, etc?
Great explanation Mike, really enjoyed it. One suggestion though, when your puppy makes a voice cameo we need to see the guy on camera. 😂😂
You're the man!
love your information ,could you do a vid on corner pins please
I remember reading about Mikey breaking records by shooting 300 when he was only 10 years old way back when. Nice to see he’s still heavily involved in bowling.
Good info here tyvm, here is what I learned. I have 3 dogs all barking like fools at my tv. tyvm..... lol Seriously this is helpful info keep it coming. I too am an old dude I'm terrible with names, forgetful as can be. I may know your name today and not remember tomorrow so in my mind you are Tall Tang and your brother is Small Tang. Good luck to all Tangs. See you in Wauwatosa.
I can barely tell the difference between my Global900 Burner and my Storm Super Nova on my local house shot. I thought the ball reaction would be much different between the 2, but it’s extremely subtle for me anyway. Great video, now I need to ask the front desk if I can get a lane graph or figure out what the pattern even is.
The timing of this video could not be better for me! I've been researching a heavy oil ball for a different alley that feels heavy or like glass with my current arsenal. The Super Nova was on my radar, and then I saw this video explaining the difference. It turns out that house pattern isn't "heavy" by your definition. Its a 42" pattern, but not heavy in MLs. So it's stretched out thinly and make it feel heavy. Maybe I don't need that Super Nova after all, but maybe a bit more practice there adjusting my speed, or position instead....for now anyway. Thanks for putting this together!
Great video
Very good information for me as a speed dominant bowler that basically can make every pattern into a high volume pattern, in terms of ball reaction/motion, since my strengths are at the end of a block, when the most amount of depletion has occurred. However, rev dominant players, like those seen on the PBA tour, are best in the fresh and when transition stretches a pattern but doesn't deplete it. Those rev dominant players that can also increase and decrease rotational axis also have more advantages than any other bowler on the planet.
very very informative
Awesome video Mikey!!! What kind of ball would you reccomend for broken down lanes?
Great video!!!
For me, bowling mostly on a house pattern at a bowling center that typically hooks quite a bit (a little drier?) .. my Proton Physix is really as strong as I ever need and typically only good for the first game on league nights. After that I usually have to move right into my Zen Master or Radical Innovator balls.
Great video. By the way I love my GEM...
Right now my two "heavy oil" balls are the Reality and Axiom Solid (Sanded to 1000). We did a tournament a last year or so, and the oil machine had a malfunction, and put out a 52' shot rather than a 42'
Great info, now subscribed! Coming to South Point for sweeps in 2 days from OC cali (Noon saturday start so prolly burn?) 5 man teams and I have a bad hip so I don't get to take many warmup shots before we off n rollin. Lowish rev, med/high speed bowler who loves starting 6-arrow down & in. Aresenal is Super Nova polished, Alert 3000, Marvel Maxx Tour (Nex Hybrid pol.), iQ NanoPearl 3000, and iQ Emerald pol. Guessin the S nova won't even be in play but which 2 are my best bet to focus on for the start? Thanx!!
Good video
Thank you for explaining all this confusing stuff
can you do a ballsplanation on drilling/measurements/pin palcement/ and why they matter or how it affects the ball
Thanks for clearing this up for me. I was thinking long mean heavy, which means middle.. Now shirt I like. Do you have multi colors
@TV Bowling Supply - Could you do an Ballsplanation on how and when to use Abralon pads?
Well........now I had to sub!!!😅
I was always told unless you bowl on long patterns, soup, or have alot of speed they are fine. For me throwing about 15.5 to 16 on house they don’t look that great, and there are better balls that will look and hit harder.
Bought a Storm Trend....took it out for a spin for the first time today. Reved all the way down the lane everytime and couldn't get a hook or any type of shift...basically just rolled straight. Right after the first shot it came back so oily that it almost slipped out of my hand smh. So long and heavy at 60 is what I'm thinking. Not so fun.
Most sense I have seen made of all this.
Is the actual oil differant slicker stay on the lane longer ?
I need the opposite. I bowled a tournament last week with very little oil and was throwing angles i wasnt comfortable with. Any suggestions?
Could you imagine if you walked in a bowling alley and there was oil on the lanes the thickness of the space between Mikey's fingers when he was trying to show light volume of oil 🤣🤣
You bowled in the sweeper at Gahanna lanes . Would you have used a heavy oil bowling ball on the 45 foot pattern ??
Bowling on a 44 ft, 4.5 to 1 on 26.6 mills this weekend. It’s gonna be a struggle.
Finally !!! LOL. . Great info
Is it true that Brunswick lane panels play slicker than regular synthetic lanes. I bowl in the North East mainly New York but I have bowled out of state but it seems like they use a lot of Brunswick lanes. So when the lanes are slick in general what type of ball would you recommend for that type of environment? Also if what I said makes sense about the lane panels could you do a video about that and how to combat that? Thanks for your time.
In our experience, Brunswick Pro Anvilane does tend to play slicker than say your typical AMF HPL panels. Assuming all else is equal, a stronger ball would be better. But as we know there are many other factors to determine what ball to throw
Excellent synopsis!! League friends ask me stuff like "what does X,Y,Z expression even mean. " The variables on any one center to another...or even down to the single lane itself compared to its neighbor, are massive. Lane material, New or Older. oil type/brand, Not to mention the way weather can massively affect all of the above via ambient temps outside, humidity level and several other factors that can alter the first set of factors slightly. Pin type/brand/ construction and age. Weight. Reactivity. What brand of lane machine. How new or old is it. worn or fresh brushes and clean applicator heads or not. And all one can do is get real ZEN and watch to see how the ball is reacting as time progresses.Knowing about when to make a change or a shift...Sound like I'm talking about Nuclear Fusion level stuff....but its just bowling.
i have an event coming up. 44 ft billy hardwick, 24.71 ml, i have no idea what type of balls to get after game 5 or 6. lol help?
This helps a lot, I just started bowling and have a GEM bowling ball what other ball should I get next?
I also have a Gem and have found that it's very hit or miss. When it hits, it hits hard. I have found that it really struggles on longer patterns or patterns that have a large amount of carry down. I would recommend something that requires less time to turn like an Infinite Physix or !Q Ruby. On the other side of things, the Gem does hook a ton in terms of total boards. If you're looking for a step down from that, something easier to control, I'd go with Phaze II or a Hy-Road Pearl (which I also have). The Phaze II is a solid all-around ball that's good in just about any condition. The Hy-Roadis similar, but shines much brighter on lighter/shorter patterns for how easy it is to control
That depends on how you throw the ball (speed, revs, tilt, etc.). The Gem is a tank. It hooks a ton, but not in the way many people think about hook. It gets a lot of traction (hook), but doesn't typically move right-left or left-right a lot (shape/backend).
For starting out, I would look at lower-tier balls like the Hyped or Hustle lines from Roto Grip, or the Electrify line or Thunder series from Storm. They're less expensive and are very good for house patterns. This will be helpful while you figure out your swing, which is what your pro shop operator bases drilling your ball on.
Oil volume ÷ distance = amount of oil per foot of pattern. Gives you a ratio.
For a pattern like Great Wall of China that’s 48’ and 24 mL, would a weaker asymmetrical work better? Nova, Exotic Gem, RST X-2, etc?
Depends on lane surface and oil type as well. But that’s a good place to start!
I'd go for a mid strength symmetrical hybrid. Either polished or at 3000/4000. I use my Radical Sneak Attack surfaced at 3000, drilled a simple, pin up over ring finger layout.
That shirt is cool. And appreciate the attempt to try to clear up SOMETHING about the sport. There's a lot of old fudd terminology and knowledge that isn't relevant anymore, that clashes with newer age stuff (i.e. 'hold' and 'shim') and it makes it very difficult for people to figure things out. I wish there was a way to just settle on one set of terminology so that I'm not hearing from one person that their ball burns up, and another person is saying it 'bails' downlane, meanwhile others are talking about how their asym ball 'locks up'. And then they don't explain what they mean. Very frustrating for someone who is detail-oriented and is trying to learn how to play better and make better decisions while playing.
When’s the next time you guys will be in, I want the new ruby but I need to find my pap and maybe rev rate so I can start basing my pin placement off that
Won’t be in consistently until the tour season wraps up unfortunately
@@tvbowlingsupply Well good luck and hopefully you guys bring home some tourney wins
Mike I have a question regarding ball choice any help would be great im a palm bowler no thumb and bowl standard league no tourneys avg about 170-185 over a 3 game span. What balls should I go with for my style, ton of hook naturally and throw about 15-16 mph. Need advice on a go to ball and a spare ball. Currently have Phaze 2, Hyroad Pearl and a Rapid Fire Pearl- Spare ball most help with as my style I suck as getting my 10 pin spares being a righty because of too much hook
Your pro shop should be able to help you but pretty much any plastic cover ball should work.
@@davidchamberlain5146 Storm Ice it is.
@@FragranceEmpire that should work well for you. I re-read your post asking about a "go to ball." You have the phaze 2 which is a great all around/bench mark type of ball. Just a suggestion, might consider taking 3 or 4 (or more) lessons instead of spending the money on a ball at this point. I've taken a couple lessons and plan on taking several more. I've already noticed an increase in my ball speed and was told my rev rate will probably increase as well. Changes in your game could play a role in what your next ball purchase and lay out will be. Best of luck with your game.
@@davidchamberlain5146 problem is everyone who tries to teach me wants to restructure my 2 finger no thumb approach. I'm willing to listen if those don't frown upon my style.
How would you diagnose “heavy oil” based on throwing shots with no pattern graph? It has to be more complicated than “ball not hooking = heavy oil”. What specific signs are you looking for?
If your “heavy oil” balls still seem to be very flippy on the back end, then there’s probably heavy oil!
@@tvbowlingsupply ok that’s an answer that makes sense to me. Often I see, for example, my Gem won’t turn over at all, but a Hustle or a Hyped will hook more in the same spot. Obviously that Gem is quitting because it’s too light volume. So if that same Gem really shapes on the back, then I can guess that there’s enough oil to warrant using it?
Thanks for the response
At my local bowling alley, I consider heavy oil when the ball makes your hands greasy.
Anyone that wants the new black widow 2.0 hybrid. It's not the best for heavy oil it's perfect for mediums
My house barely puts out enough oil for low end bowling balls in league. No need at all for me to buy a heavy oil at all.
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I only clicked on this for Mikey's face thumbnail
I have a question would the exotic gem be considered a heavy oil ball 🤔
Can be! Still fairly clean in the front part of the lane but digs hard in the midlane like the other “heavy oil” balls
@@tvbowlingsupplythank you I’m currently using it as my first ball out my bag since it’s really all I have do that situation I only have the night road and the exotic gem but they both work really well for me so if it works it works I suppose 😅
Bowling alleys seem to be trying to save $ on oil these days....
"Should You Buy a Heavy Oil Bowling Ball??" You could have added that speed dominant bowlers are more likely to need a heavy oil ball than rev dominant bowlers.
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This is why you buy small bread. It makes the 2 tablespoons of peanut butter seem bigger... 😂
No wonder your rev rate is so high. Look at the size of your hands!
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If you need to ask this question, you should just quit bowling. If you are skilled enough, none of it matters. Sure, knowing what ball in your arsenal and their oil specs is good, but if you are talented enough, you can make any ball work. I was averaging 230-240 in house pattern and 220 on sports patterns. I just don't understand this new age of bowling. I don't remember in 2005 when I quit it being so technical.