Been in the videography and marketing scene for roughly 23 years. This is the most clear, detailed, and simple video I have seen about the topic. Zero "Bro" and 100% informative. Thank you.
6:13 you mention the mix pre 3. How did you handle the timecode setup there? You forgot to mention that. Is it having a LTC track or do you use the HDMI input in any way? Apart from that, a huge thanks for being so generous to share this with the community. It is a brilliant way to show how much more productive we can be in da Vinci than we already are. You rock!
Chadwick, I've been watching your videos for several months now. Turn 70 next March and am just starting my Tuber gig. Named the channel Boomer Bloc. Keep em coming, bubba.
Chadwick, you've given us another amazingly useful tutorial! I will need to view this video a couple more times, but you've shared some very important tips regarding "jam synch", but just as important-- how DaVinci Resolve nests the audio in Multi-cam mode. Thank you, thank you, thank you!
Glad it was helpful Keith. Yeah that nested adaptive audio in multicam is always a bit tricky to work with so I'm glad you are finding that part useful. I hope this is something they simplify in the next version of Resolve. As always, I appreciate your support and comments.
Your info on unlinking tracks from an external audio recorder is fantastic. I've been wrestling with that for a while. Thanks for sharing that solution.
After researching all the related muticam issues in terms of the audio track in Davinci Resolve in days, including Blackmagic forums, I finally found the solution here! Especially at 12'56"! I love you ! THANKS! Your other tutorials are great as well!
Chadwick, I love this video... I've watched it half a dozen times and keeping getting more out of it everytime. Your generosity of knowledge is greatly appreciated. I hope the move to NYC has gone smoothly. Thanks once again for helping make me a better video editor.
Hey, thanks so much! Your kind words are not taken lightly, and it means the world to me the tutorials are helping. It has been a big transition for us since moving, but I have over 40 new videos outlined and some partially shot to start releasing soon all around Resolve. Stay tuned! I even have a new one on with more advanced timecode tricks coming with a few tricks I didn't know when I did this tentacle video.
My pleasure! (now if only the chip shortage would end so I could buy a few of these :) ) - Hey quick question - are you a DaVinci Resolve guy, or Final Cut? As new versions release later this fall I want to make sure to tailor my tutorials as best as possible.
@@CreativeVideoTips yes, I feel you! I will be next in line, haha. ;-) I'm coming from Premiere Pro but did a lot of grading in DaVinci for quite some time. I switched to 100% DaVinci a few month ago and never went back. So that's why your channel is a highly demanded resource for us DaVinci guys, who switched.
Holy Cow! FIguring out how to break out the multicam audio into individual tracks is an Emmy worthy tip. I mean, how in the world did you figure that out? I found the link to this video in a BMD Forum but it seems like this deep level app functionality should be so much more accessible. Especially considering this is pro level work flow stuff that would drive an editor crazy as you try to work with professional audio post mixers and other collaborators. Seriously worth a sub by far! Excellent production yourself for a simple project like a youtube video tip here. Thanks. This is one of the final steps in finishing a feature film I've been editing / directing and it is soooooo helpful. Excited to find this channel!
Hi Danor, I'm so glad you found this crazy work around and the channel. Yes, I can tell you I pulled my few hairs out trying to understand the best way to get back to the original tracks. It is kind of silly so I'm hoping they consider rewriting this section of the edit page in a future Resolve release. My guess is they are working on so many things that this was just overlooked. Please keep in touch, I'd love to see the film or the trailer for it when it's done.
Thank you for breaking this down so perfectly. I'm a director trying to finish a commercial and you just launched me into being able to finish it :). Cheers.
This was incredibly helpful. Not the tentacle part but getting those recorder tracks with multiple channels from set was confusing to work with and I definitely exported bad audio to a couple clients as a result lol.
Thanks for this video. Looking because I have just got a MixPre 6 and have a Tentacle Sync E set arriving tomorrow. This answers all my questions and helps so much. It explains everything I needed to know. Once I got bit by some bad audio tracks - I am sold on having the MixPre record everything.
I knew this once (well, not some things), but it's so great to see it again as I had forgotten most of it. Thank you for the refresher, you gem of a person! :D
wow So much I didn't know about Davinci I just learned in 20 Mins. Since I have a couple Z9's and a Z6ii with Atomos Ninja im going with the Atomos Ultra Sync Blues for Timecode. Im very new to this category and actually only been shooting Video for about a year (Primarily a Photographer) but you broke down many questions I had about Timecode very easy. Thanks!!
This is an amazing tutorial for the DaVinci side! I’ve been working in multicam and didn’t know anything about this. Starting to really look into TC seriously now because DaVinci is struggling with some of my multicam by audio even with good scratch audio.
Great tutorial! Thanks for making these wonderful resources. Do you have a suggested workflow for synchronising clips when some of the clips don't (or can't) use Timecode, like clips from an old GoPro for action footage while the rest of the clips do use timecode? Can you do a stepped sync process, perhaps first doing the sync using Timecode for the majority of the clips, then using the synced clip plus the GoPro clips using Audio Waveform to complete the process?
Thank you for your video, but wow, that looks like a very large amount of work arounds and adjustments to get to usable data. Have you tried the tentacle software to sync prior to importing, or has BM improved the workflow since your tutorial?
Hi Ben, workflow hasn't changed since I released this but you might be getting hung up on the last half that deals more with editing individual audio channels. I really wish this would simplify but it's not always a necessary step for everyone. Regarding the timecode sync, it doesn't get much easier than this. I am currently testing the new Deity system and will follow up with a video on it since it has some nice benefits that tentacle doesn't have. I haven't used the tentacle software but if you use Resolve there really is no need for it.
Thanks, - now this is kind of a worse case scenario and in my latest multicam video on the speed editor I try to simplify the linking unlinking process - but YES, I sure hope blackmagic makes this easier in the future.
Not sure if I missed it or not, and I am pretty sure I know what to do. But you showed all the cameras having the timecode on the left and scratch on the right. Didn't see how the main audio got the timecode. Lots of cool techniques in there. Not sure why every wedding or event videographer isn't using the tentacle system? I guess it's been awhile since I saw a demo of it. I thought that it involved syncing in an app, and exporting .xml - This new method is so much better and easier. Thanks for the info Chadwick
Hey Jim, you didn't miss it - I accidentally cut that part out. The main audio received the tentacle timecode and converted in the sound devices recorder itself to metadata timecode (kind of like a blackmagic camera does). So there is no need to do anything with that in Resolve. I think I have read in some places that you can't convert audio only files LTC timecode to metadata timecode in Resolve but didn't have anything to test with since we've always run with the sound devices boxes.
@@CreativeVideoTips Hi Chadwick great video! One question: as soon as you click on update timecode from audio track the first video of fx and a7 change to something around 9:51. What I don't get is why the first audio track from mixpre says 9:48 and the videos are starting from 9:51. Do they sync anyway without problem? Thank you!
One of the best tutorials and still it is too overwhelming and difficult to remember each step.Davinci needs to make it better especially audio separation and stuff
Thanks. Been looking for a work around for multiple audio channels in groups. Still think BM could work to make multicam audio just be all the channels instead of stereo mix by default. Or at least the option to do so easily
You're very welcome. I know what you mean - I think this should be a priority item for them to improve on the next version. I have never found a great use for adaptive tracks. Thanks for watching!
I'm mostly making videos in a blacksmith shop and currently record audio from a lav mic to either a camera via wireless or a separate recorder. I then use a shotgun mic on a second camera to capture the ambient shop sounds as I work. (the lav mic pics up too much heavy breathing) Is there a way to record audio from a wireless system or shotgun mic to the camera while using the Sync E?
Yes, but on if your camera has 4 channels of inputs (my FX3 does, or any camera that has like 2 xls ports and a stereo mini etc.) The reason is the sync E uses 1 channel for timecode and one channel for scratch audio. The idea then for most 2 channel cameras is that you would then timecode sync those to an external recorder that also has a sync E and has both of your mics plugged into the external recorder.
Great video. I'm considering adding timecode to my multi angle (3-6 camera) music recording setup. But until I can afford 4 separate boxes I'm thinking of using just 1 with an active audio splitter and just running wires to each camera. Would there be any issues with that? I think I may even have an old MOTU interface with an LTC out (an 828 or an MTP/AV). I've been binge watching your content, great stuff.
That's a great idea! I love the way you think Steve. One thing to think about is the output has one channel that is the audio timecode and the other is the scratch audio track from the built in mic. I'm also testing the deity system this month which has a nice advantage that it's a little cheaper and has an OSD. Let me know how it works if you try this. One thing to think if you're sending audio with a teacher anyways, then you could also just sync by waveforms. But I like where your heads at and timecode syncing is always ideal. Cheers!
@@CreativeVideoTips Thanks for the feedback. I saw the Deity's this morning, they look very cool and are a little less $ esp considering the Tentacle software is unnecessary for Resolve users. I do like how both boxes have a mic for the other channel for reference. I used to sell high end audio equipment so I know everything about timecode and sync references in post workflows but I never realized that camera TC generators didnt need to be interconnected. I guess if drift is 1 frame in 24hrs they dont need to see each other. It's different when you need subframe accuracy or digital audio sync. Waveform sync is working okay for me but sometimes I need to nudge things in subframes. I have a cheap ext mic on every main angle to make sure they get decent audio. But I'm looking for anything to make post faster and it was really magical to see how fast multicam was with LTC. It would also help with ordering all the subfiles from long recordings that go over the 4gb limits.
Fantastic tutorial…fits a crucial gap for modern Resolve (v17+). Note: I set the A7S3 to 24 fps and the Tentacle syncs to 24, not realizing that the A7S3 , 24 actually means 23.98 . Also if you. Use Mix Pre as the master TC source, it doesn’t burn LTC? Trying to get my head around that
Thanks for watching, yeah on the sony's 24 is really 23.98. On blackmagic you have both 23.98 and 24. You don't want to use the Mix Pre as a master TC source until it's the Mix Pre 10. If you have a 3, or 6, you need to feed it a tentacle sync e too. This will convert in the device to metadata tc for the audio.
Holy Crap. What you call the "Sync the Daillies" workflow is exactly what I've been dying to do but could never figure out nor find from a Google Search. Thank you!!! Any chance there's a way to "Update Timecode for Audiotrack" from a audio file? (I'm recording a Tentacle to one channel of a non-timecode recorder, then actual audio to another) This would save a trip to the dedicated Tentacle App. Either way, Thanks a bunch! You've given me the final key to my workflow I've been missing.
Awesome video Chadwick! Very concise and informative. I have two tentacle sync E's for cameras and have been attaching them using velcro on the camera cage. I just noticed you have some sort of mounting hardware on the units shown in this video. What are you using to mount your Octopodes to your gear?
I've been learning, and re-learning, a lot from you (with new knowledge on what I thought I knew). I've been on your playlist binge. :D Thank you for an amazing resource for Da Vinci Resolve.
This is such a great video! Thank you for publishing the best video on timecode syncing in Davinci with multicam setups! You've saved me so many hours! Also love the extra tidbit on selecting 1 and 2 for the different camera setups. I used to cut out the clip using the razor tool and drag it to a new timeline then find the sound. This is a transformative video for me! Thank you doesn't seem enough.
Hey @CreativeVideoTips Chadwick - this was previously one of my most referenced videos, but I came back to it and realized lots of things have changed since this was made. Is there any chance you could please update this or release a new version? Love my tentacles and how they perform. I've recently updated to a new f6, and have recently added a new A cam (R6 Mark II). I would sincerely appreciate an update to this because I use these techniques.
great video but why u would want to use all those tracks, instead of just the master audio track once its synced. im confused on the extra steps of bring all that audio in...
Thanks Ted - having all the tracks let’s you as an editor decide which microphone to use and if different peoples mics, you can mute one while the other person talks and go back and forth. This cleans up your overall mix drastically.
Very good work man, thanks for info. Really appreciated it! Question: when Syncing a Multicam and and Cutting one take (such as interviews) .... then all is good. But how would you approach the same things for something like a music video, in which case you have 3cameras angle (A,B,C) but you are recording with a click track/music track and then if you do 4 takes you end up having 12video tracks that need to be synced (3camera angles per take) ...yet label them in a way that the director can refer to the individual videos as Take1-CamA, Take2-CamB and so forth. Sync Based on waveform does work well - but there is always that one video that will not and it's hard to figure out what's going on. kind of a loaded question. Thanks in advance!
Chadwick, How do you update time code from audio for multiple audio files? I am using a Zoom H4n. I connected the tentacle sync to the ext. mic input and recorded the jam sync on a mic channel and then recorded audio on an xlr channel. It outputs multiple audio files. First Since the files are separate I would assume I need to merge them to a single left right track (composite track) but then I am not sure how to update time code. That field is not available for audio track. Any help would be appreciated.
I think that is an excellent idea. When you are looking at audio recorders - look for devices that accept timecode this way they will convert in camera to metadata timecode like the sound devices mix pre 3 in this tutorial. Thanks for watching!
Thanks man, useful info. I bought an Atomos Ninja 7 mainly because my Sonny a6000 can't shoot for very long (mainly doing location classical music productions). Thinking of gradually transiting to Video Cameras (not photo cameras that do video) plus having some Photo cameras for when I need more than 4 camera angels at the same time.So, looking at the Tentancle Sync System and I was wondering if the Atomos is still relevant and useful or if I should sell it and get another monitor + Tentancle boxes. Thanks!
Topic idea: can you go over the new Flexbus system in resolve? You have a superb teaching style and I can tell you research each video well to deliver dense info. Thank you!
Great suggestion! This hasn't been covered very much from what I can tell and it's a pretty cool feature. It's not something I use very much yet, but happy to try to dive in more and share what I learn. Thanks!
@@CreativeVideoTips Things to explore would be: How to understand the flow of the signals (sending tracks to buses, buses to buses, and buses to tracks) How to create Submixes (sending one or more tracks that belong to the same category, such as dialogue, to a single channel) that can be controlled with a single fader and or dynamics processing. How to send a Submix signal to another channel for use in Sidechain compression so that a music bus or track can interact with a dialogue track/submix
Love your video style. Thanks for making these. May I ask where you got the little female thread-to-velcro adapters you have underneath each device? Mine didn't come with one of those.
Hello there, thank you for all the content you create this is really helpful. Do you know, or someone in the comment section, if it's possible to run with your camera while using the Tentacle Sync with an Atomos's device like the Ninja V?
👍👍👍 Exceptional thank you so much for this advanced multicam demonstration with DaVinci Resolve, but at this point, given your preparation on the subject, I want to ask you if there are any wireless timecode generators that can be connected to wi fi or bluetooth even to devices that do not have the jack socket such as latest generation smartphones
Thanks Fausto, not to my knowledge. This is possible to a phone I think but not to any cameras that I'm aware of. They all need to be physically plugged in. Hey on this topic though - there is a new kit from Deity that is like the tentacles but possibly more feature rich coming out in June. Watch for that!
Hello, thank you for the video, it all works great, only my audio channels get grouped into one channel. I can still see the individual channels but i cannot seem to edit them individually. In the synch fast video from a fellow youtuber there is a very lengthy explanation how to get them into individual channels again but somehow I don't get it to work. I would very much appreciate an answer.
So once you "bake" in the timecode, (which I assume is just pulled from one of the channels) You can then retrieve, then sych? So you don't need to use the Tentacle sync software then. Correct?
Absolutely - that's one of the unique joys of Resolve. No need for the tentacle software when you edit with LTC timecode in Resolve or Avid. The tentacle software is good, but it's an extra step that's not required.
Hey dude I have a quick question for you. First, thank you for the videos. They are super helpful. Second, I followed this video to the letter and my Zoom F6 isn't syncing up with the video in DaVinci. All 3 camera angles sync up and I can see all of the timecode and metadata on the Zoom but it puts the Zoom's audio file before the sync'd up video after opening the multicam in the timeline. I know everything is set up right as the camera's are syncing but am I missing something on the Zoom or in Davinci?
Thank you for such a good video which is the best on you tube if you are working with tentacles. For me everything works except the "flatten multicam" part 'cause in 18.6 there's two options and if you select any the video just disapair :(
Thank you so much! I had been pulling my hair out trying to sync single camera w/audio tc, mix pre 6,and 2 track E tentacle recorders jam synced to mix pre which also provides tc for camera. Your video is the only source I have found on the internet that has helped. I am still having trouble keeping all the track E tracks it seems that Davinci resolve tends to want use the mix pre audio exclusively and I find myself having to add the track e tracks back manually.I am probably missing something. I have limited editing experience
Hi Rufus, this is a tough one. If I'm understanding correctly you have multiple sets of good audio. Because a Multicam only wants to use 1 audio source (angle), you will need to duplicate and manually stack up your multicams in a regular timeline so you can choose the correct audio angle to get all the good sound present. After this is done, you can proceed to flatten the Multicam on the audio, convert to linked group, unlink the group and edit as normal. Let me know if this makes sense. It sounds like you're mostly on the right track (no pun intended). I wish there was a clean way to take multiple audio sources and mux them virtually into a single clip so this wasn't the workflow. But I don't think there is without baking new files, which is a waste and time consuming.
Chadwick, thank you for taking the time To explain this. Yes I was figuring da Vinci was doing something like that just having confirmation that this is a limit and not some thing that I am just missing is helpful I’m still struggling a bit mainly because after years of shooting and handing the footage off I’m learning a new skill and the old brain is not quite as good as it used to be. I go back-and-forth from your videos until it clicks you are by far the best source I have found for Davinci Resolve
I'm new to Resolve (coming from Final Cut) but your videos have made the transition much easier...Thank you! Question about Auto Sync Audio Based on Timecode on the Media page: what happens to the camera scratch audio tracks? I can't see them in the Edit page, just the external audio recorder tracks. Does Resolve just assume you don't want to use scratch audio and throw it away?
you can choose auto sync and append tracks instead - this will let you still be able to use your original scratch audio if needed. Great to hear this channel has been helping the transition - its a fun appication.
This is so cool Chadwick, I use two 32 bit Tenticale recorders currently. Could I use JAM Sync on NON pro cameras ? I only have a Canon M50 and DJI pocket 2 and perhaps Android when i add that to the mix? What you just showed would save so much time when sync on waveform fails. Great video !
Oh yeah those track e recorders you have are compatible with the sync e from this video I believe. The 2 things you need are a mic input and then also the ability to record the same frame rate. So just make sure they can all record the exact same framerate. Meaning 24 does not equal 23.98
So just to be clear, when using Tentacle with DR you don't need to first run the clips thru the TENTACLE SYNC STUDIO software - all the syncing can happen natively in DR, right?
Very nice, thank you for the video. My nerdy nature brought me to feed to the camera both the timecode as timecode signal and as audio signal at the same time. Once in Davinci, when changing the time code from metadata to the one from the audio track, I get always 2 frames out of sync. Any idea why?
Ah I love the tentacle sync.... I don't own them but I love them and they are my next investment. Just done a video on timecode myself using a free app but would love me some tentacle syncs
@@CreativeVideoTips its called LTC timecode generator, I have been using it as a visual and audio que for the cameras stopping the frame and setting the time code. Works really well, the vid is on my channel, it's the last vid I done
Do you also have an option to sync audio to clips that are already in the timeline ? When you do DIT work at movie set you get the video footage at a different time than audio. Workflow would be grading the video footage when you get it and add the audio later when you get it at lunch break or when the day is over. Is there and Option for that ?
Yep, I totally get that. I remember always waiting at the end of shoot days to have the mixer copy his files for the DIT. And yes, in the timeline if you select one audio clip with one video clip you can right click and say auto align clips based on waveform or timecode. You can them link them together with command option L. Just know they are only linked on the timeline, not like a merged clip.
@@CreativeVideoTips Yes but that only works if the clip in the timeline already has audio. If you work on a movie set having Alexa or Red camereas. These cameras usually don´t record audio. And no operator wants an extra micro attached to his camera. All you have is timecode. And you begin the QC and pregrading once you get the video footage. Sound comes at lunch and at the end of the day. Can´t wait so long with QC and grading and I don´t want to redo the stuff. Woraround is also possible but super complicated.
Near the end of the video, after you have synced the dailies, you jump to the source tape to mark in/out points to append into the timeline. When I do this, the sync bin is using the old audio of the clip, not the newly synced audio. But once the clip is in the timeline, it uses the new audio. In the video here, I can't tell if yours is also doing this because you have the audio off. Is there a way in the sync bin to use the newly synced audio while selecting clips?
When you update the timecode metadata ,you're clicking 'update timecode from audio track' however what if the Sync E is connected using the flash sync port in the case of the Panasonic S1H? Is this step still needed and if so will that work as the sync port is not an audio track
at 8:43, I dont have half the options you have when I right click a file, and I do not have "update timecode from audio track" is that something that requires the full paid version of resolve?
@@CreativeVideoTips that's awesome dude. I don't understand why they only sell one unit and two units of tentacles on line? How about if I need four tentacles? Can I still match those other two extra units without hassle. Sorry I'm starter for all of this. Thank you so much for your answer. I appreciate you for educating me.
Question: I have 3 of 4 items synced perfectly. My Blackmagic 6K (+Sync E), Tentacle Track E, Zoom F6 (+Sync E) all take in the time code metadata, but my Sony A1 I have a Tentacle Sync E constantly plugged in and it's recording "audio timecode". So when I drop it in, everything syncs up immediately except for the Sony. Expected. I did what you suggested using "Update Timecode from Audio Track" and everything synced! My only problem is in my footage I'm holding up the Tentacle "Timebar" app which basically is a digital slate. I noticed that the Sony is off by 2 frames. Is there something I can do to fix this?
Hi Chadwick, I have an audio related question. Is there a way to modify the left and right channel individually in an multi channel audio track for this workflow and using synced with timecode audio for cut page and multicam edting? one of my two channel recordings (for a day) had a 19ms delay for a digital mic but I used an analog mic with no delay? So now I get what sounds llike an echo as the two mics from the two channels are 19 milliseconds out of sync with each other in my multicannel wave audio file from my audio recorder? I gues I could make two coppies and take left from one and right from one and nudge them but I was hoping to fix it in a more clean way so I could use cut page sync bin workflow. Thank you for your channel and great videos.
00:00 - How to Sync Faster in DaVinci Resolve
01:07 - Jam Synced Timecode Defined
01:46 - When to use Timecode?
03:15 - Tentacle Sync E Setup
06:03 - DaVinci Resolve Tutorial
06:44 - Assign Camera Number Metadata
07:26 - Show Timecode Window
08:28 - Update Timecode from Audio Track
09:03 - Multicam Sync Map
09:52 - Fix Multicam Adaptive Tracks
11:55 - Flatten Multicam Clip
12:55 - Edit Adaptive Tracks Individually
14:46 - Editing Multicam
15:18 - Sync the Dailies
16:20 - Sync Bin Editing
Been in the videography and marketing scene for roughly 23 years. This is the most clear, detailed, and simple video I have seen about the topic. Zero "Bro" and 100% informative.
Thank you.
DUDE! DUDE! DUDE! I am screaming all the way from TN. You are the MAN- Your experience is Over The Top. Thank You for sharing.
6:13 you mention the mix pre 3. How did you handle the timecode setup there? You forgot to mention that. Is it having a LTC track or do you use the HDMI input in any way? Apart from that, a huge thanks for being so generous to share this with the community. It is a brilliant way to show how much more productive we can be in da Vinci than we already are. You rock!
Chadwick, I've been watching your videos for several months now. Turn 70 next March and am just starting my Tuber gig. Named the channel Boomer Bloc. Keep em coming, bubba.
Chadwick, you've given us another amazingly useful tutorial! I will need to view this video a couple more times, but you've shared some very important tips regarding "jam synch", but just as important-- how DaVinci Resolve nests the audio in Multi-cam mode. Thank you, thank you, thank you!
Glad it was helpful Keith. Yeah that nested adaptive audio in multicam is always a bit tricky to work with so I'm glad you are finding that part useful. I hope this is something they simplify in the next version of Resolve.
As always, I appreciate your support and comments.
Your info on unlinking tracks from an external audio recorder is fantastic. I've been wrestling with that for a while. Thanks for sharing that solution.
Glad to help! I hope it eventually gets simplified, but this one of the ways I get around it for now.
After researching all the related muticam issues in terms of the audio track in Davinci Resolve in days, including Blackmagic forums, I finally found the solution here! Especially at 12'56"! I love you ! THANKS! Your other tutorials are great as well!
Chadwick, I love this video... I've watched it half a dozen times and keeping getting more out of it everytime. Your generosity of knowledge is greatly appreciated. I hope the move to NYC has gone smoothly. Thanks once again for helping make me a better video editor.
Hey, thanks so much! Your kind words are not taken lightly, and it means the world to me the tutorials are helping. It has been a big transition for us since moving, but I have over 40 new videos outlined and some partially shot to start releasing soon all around Resolve. Stay tuned! I even have a new one on with more advanced timecode tricks coming with a few tricks I didn't know when I did this tentacle video.
Chadwick again bringing us all the best tips and lessons! Highly appreciated!
My pleasure! (now if only the chip shortage would end so I could buy a few of these :) ) -
Hey quick question - are you a DaVinci Resolve guy, or Final Cut? As new versions release later this fall I want to make sure to tailor my tutorials as best as possible.
@@CreativeVideoTips yes, I feel you! I will be next in line, haha. ;-)
I'm coming from Premiere Pro but did a lot of grading in DaVinci for quite some time. I switched to 100% DaVinci a few month ago and never went back. So that's why your channel is a highly demanded resource for us DaVinci guys, who switched.
Holy Cow! FIguring out how to break out the multicam audio into individual tracks is an Emmy worthy tip. I mean, how in the world did you figure that out? I found the link to this video in a BMD Forum but it seems like this deep level app functionality should be so much more accessible. Especially considering this is pro level work flow stuff that would drive an editor crazy as you try to work with professional audio post mixers and other collaborators. Seriously worth a sub by far! Excellent production yourself for a simple project like a youtube video tip here. Thanks. This is one of the final steps in finishing a feature film I've been editing / directing and it is soooooo helpful. Excited to find this channel!
Hi Danor, I'm so glad you found this crazy work around and the channel. Yes, I can tell you I pulled my few hairs out trying to understand the best way to get back to the original tracks. It is kind of silly so I'm hoping they consider rewriting this section of the edit page in a future Resolve release. My guess is they are working on so many things that this was just overlooked. Please keep in touch, I'd love to see the film or the trailer for it when it's done.
Gold standard right here.
Amazing work.
Thanks so much for watching Kelvin!
the best channel on DaVinci tips 🔥🔥🔥
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Thank you for breaking this down so perfectly. I'm a director trying to finish a commercial and you just launched me into being able to finish it :). Cheers.
You just saved me countless hours with multicam. Thank you!
This was incredibly helpful. Not the tentacle part but getting those recorder tracks with multiple channels from set was confusing to work with and I definitely exported bad audio to a couple clients as a result lol.
Thanks for this video. Looking because I have just got a MixPre 6 and have a Tentacle Sync E set arriving tomorrow. This answers all my questions and helps so much. It explains everything I needed to know. Once I got bit by some bad audio tracks - I am sold on having the MixPre record everything.
I knew this once (well, not some things), but it's so great to see it again as I had forgotten most of it. Thank you for the refresher, you gem of a person! :D
wow So much I didn't know about Davinci I just learned in 20 Mins. Since I have a couple Z9's and a Z6ii with Atomos Ninja im going with the Atomos Ultra Sync Blues for Timecode. Im very new to this category and actually only been shooting Video for about a year (Primarily a Photographer) but you broke down many questions I had about Timecode very easy. Thanks!!
This is an amazing tutorial for the DaVinci side! I’ve been working in multicam and didn’t know anything about this. Starting to really look into TC seriously now because DaVinci is struggling with some of my multicam by audio even with good scratch audio.
Great tutorial! Thanks for making these wonderful resources.
Do you have a suggested workflow for synchronising clips when some of the clips don't (or can't) use Timecode, like clips from an old GoPro for action footage while the rest of the clips do use timecode? Can you do a stepped sync process, perhaps first doing the sync using Timecode for the majority of the clips, then using the synced clip plus the GoPro clips using Audio Waveform to complete the process?
Thank you for your video, but wow, that looks like a very large amount of work arounds and adjustments to get to usable data. Have you tried the tentacle software to sync prior to importing, or has BM improved the workflow since your tutorial?
Hi Ben, workflow hasn't changed since I released this but you might be getting hung up on the last half that deals more with editing individual audio channels. I really wish this would simplify but it's not always a necessary step for everyone.
Regarding the timecode sync, it doesn't get much easier than this. I am currently testing the new Deity system and will follow up with a video on it since it has some nice benefits that tentacle doesn't have. I haven't used the tentacle software but if you use Resolve there really is no need for it.
Such a great explanation - plus, your production value is great. Thanks for doing this!
I'm glad it was helpful. I just wish this shipping shortage was over so I could buy some more of these for the team I work with.
leraned a lot from this video class. Thank you for sharing it.
You're very welcome!
Awesome video. I can’t believe how cumbersome the audio management is at the end. I’ll never remember this….
Thanks, - now this is kind of a worse case scenario and in my latest multicam video on the speed editor I try to simplify the linking unlinking process - but YES, I sure hope blackmagic makes this easier in the future.
This is the best time code video on the planet! Thank you 😀
Adaptive track stuff was super helpful. I've wondered how to do this. Thanks!
Not sure if I missed it or not, and I am pretty sure I know what to do. But you showed all the cameras having the timecode on the left and scratch on the right. Didn't see how the main audio got the timecode.
Lots of cool techniques in there. Not sure why every wedding or event videographer isn't using the tentacle system? I guess it's been awhile since I saw a demo of it. I thought that it involved syncing in an app, and exporting .xml - This new method is so much better and easier. Thanks for the info Chadwick
Hey Jim, you didn't miss it - I accidentally cut that part out. The main audio received the tentacle timecode and converted in the sound devices recorder itself to metadata timecode (kind of like a blackmagic camera does). So there is no need to do anything with that in Resolve.
I think I have read in some places that you can't convert audio only files LTC timecode to metadata timecode in Resolve but didn't have anything to test with since we've always run with the sound devices boxes.
@@CreativeVideoTips Hi Chadwick great video! One question: as soon as you click on update timecode from audio track the first video of fx and a7 change to something around 9:51. What I don't get is why the first audio track from mixpre says 9:48 and the videos are starting from 9:51. Do they sync anyway without problem? Thank you!
One of the best tutorials and still it is too overwhelming and difficult to remember each step.Davinci needs to make it better especially audio separation and stuff
Thanks! So helpful for a paid job under pressure.
You're so welcome! Thanks so much for your generosity!
Stellar, bro. First time using Tentacles in the field and this helped a great deal.
Haven't used resolve in a while. But all your videos are easy to understand and follow 👍🏼.
Great to hear! I appreciate you watching.
thats awesome, thank you so much. helped me a ton, even makes the tentacle sync studio unnecessary and makes my workflow leaner.
Thanks. Been looking for a work around for multiple audio channels in groups.
Still think BM could work to make multicam audio just be all the channels instead of stereo mix by default. Or at least the option to do so easily
You're very welcome. I know what you mean - I think this should be a priority item for them to improve on the next version. I have never found a great use for adaptive tracks. Thanks for watching!
I'm mostly making videos in a blacksmith shop and currently record audio from a lav mic to either a camera via wireless or a separate recorder. I then use a shotgun mic on a second camera to capture the ambient shop sounds as I work. (the lav mic pics up too much heavy breathing) Is there a way to record audio from a wireless system or shotgun mic to the camera while using the Sync E?
Yes, but on if your camera has 4 channels of inputs (my FX3 does, or any camera that has like 2 xls ports and a stereo mini etc.) The reason is the sync E uses 1 channel for timecode and one channel for scratch audio. The idea then for most 2 channel cameras is that you would then timecode sync those to an external recorder that also has a sync E and has both of your mics plugged into the external recorder.
Great video. I'm considering adding timecode to my multi angle (3-6 camera) music recording setup. But until I can afford 4 separate boxes I'm thinking of using just 1 with an active audio splitter and just running wires to each camera. Would there be any issues with that? I think I may even have an old MOTU interface with an LTC out (an 828 or an MTP/AV).
I've been binge watching your content, great stuff.
That's a great idea! I love the way you think Steve. One thing to think about is the output has one channel that is the audio timecode and the other is the scratch audio track from the built in mic.
I'm also testing the deity system this month which has a nice advantage that it's a little cheaper and has an OSD. Let me know how it works if you try this.
One thing to think if you're sending audio with a teacher anyways, then you could also just sync by waveforms. But I like where your heads at and timecode syncing is always ideal. Cheers!
@@CreativeVideoTips Thanks for the feedback. I saw the Deity's this morning, they look very cool and are a little less $ esp considering the Tentacle software is unnecessary for Resolve users. I do like how both boxes have a mic for the other channel for reference.
I used to sell high end audio equipment so I know everything about timecode and sync references in post workflows but I never realized that camera TC generators didnt need to be interconnected. I guess if drift is 1 frame in 24hrs they dont need to see each other. It's different when you need subframe accuracy or digital audio sync.
Waveform sync is working okay for me but sometimes I need to nudge things in subframes. I have a cheap ext mic on every main angle to make sure they get decent audio. But I'm looking for anything to make post faster and it was really magical to see how fast multicam was with LTC. It would also help with ordering all the subfiles from long recordings that go over the 4gb limits.
based on the content production which was easy to follow and understand for DaVinci newb like me, I have liked and subbed! thank you for this.
Welcome aboard! I really appreciate you!
Fantastic tutorial…fits a crucial gap for modern Resolve (v17+). Note: I set the A7S3 to 24 fps and the Tentacle syncs to 24, not realizing that the A7S3 , 24 actually means 23.98 . Also if you. Use Mix Pre as the master TC source, it doesn’t burn LTC? Trying to get my head around that
Thanks for watching, yeah on the sony's 24 is really 23.98. On blackmagic you have both 23.98 and 24. You don't want to use the Mix Pre as a master TC source until it's the Mix Pre 10. If you have a 3, or 6, you need to feed it a tentacle sync e too. This will convert in the device to metadata tc for the audio.
@@CreativeVideoTips Ah, gotcha. Super helpful. Oh well, blew one shoot - manual sync :| I'll try again - thanks for the help!
Fantastic as always!
You rock Andrew, thanks!
Excellent video, very clearly explained. Timecode is something I have held off using for a while, but I can see where it really saves time. Thank you.
That is just SUPER helpful man. Stellar work my man!
Glad it helped! Thanks for watching.
Holy Crap. What you call the "Sync the Daillies" workflow is exactly what I've been dying to do but could never figure out nor find from a Google Search. Thank you!!!
Any chance there's a way to "Update Timecode for Audiotrack" from a audio file? (I'm recording a Tentacle to one channel of a non-timecode recorder, then actual audio to another) This would save a trip to the dedicated Tentacle App.
Either way, Thanks a bunch! You've given me the final key to my workflow I've been missing.
Awesome video Chadwick! Very concise and informative. I have two tentacle sync E's for cameras and have been attaching them using velcro on the camera cage. I just noticed you have some sort of mounting hardware on the units shown in this video. What are you using to mount your Octopodes to your gear?
I've been learning, and re-learning, a lot from you (with new knowledge on what I thought I knew). I've been on your playlist binge. :D Thank you for an amazing resource for Da Vinci Resolve.
Thank you so much for your kind words. It makes my day to hear that these resources have been helpful. Thanks for watching!
This is such a great video! Thank you for publishing the best video on timecode syncing in Davinci with multicam setups! You've saved me so many hours! Also love the extra tidbit on selecting 1 and 2 for the different camera setups. I used to cut out the clip using the razor tool and drag it to a new timeline then find the sound. This is a transformative video for me! Thank you doesn't seem enough.
Hey @CreativeVideoTips Chadwick - this was previously one of my most referenced videos, but I came back to it and realized lots of things have changed since this was made. Is there any chance you could please update this or release a new version? Love my tentacles and how they perform. I've recently updated to a new f6, and have recently added a new A cam (R6 Mark II). I would sincerely appreciate an update to this because I use these techniques.
I have one half made for the iPhone hopefully releasing before the year. I have a few new best practices I learned from mistakes.
@@CreativeVideoTipsLooking forward to seeing the update. Always enjoy your stuff. Thank you sir!
Good stuff man! Happy to see someone go in depth with this!
Saved me soooo many hours! Thanks!!
Glad it helped!
Great tutorial. Slow enough for me to follow along. Thanks!
great video but why u would want to use all those tracks, instead of just the master audio track once its synced. im confused on the extra steps of bring all that audio in...
Thanks Ted - having all the tracks let’s you as an editor decide which microphone to use and if different peoples mics, you can mute one while the other person talks and go back and forth.
This cleans up your overall mix drastically.
Very good work man, thanks for info. Really appreciated it!
Question: when Syncing a Multicam and and Cutting one take (such as interviews) .... then all is good. But how would you approach the same things for something like a music video, in which case you have 3cameras angle (A,B,C) but you are recording with a click track/music track and then if you do 4 takes you end up having 12video tracks that need to be synced (3camera angles per take) ...yet label them in a way that the director can refer to the individual videos as Take1-CamA, Take2-CamB and so forth. Sync Based on waveform does work well - but there is always that one video that will not and it's hard to figure out what's going on. kind of a loaded question. Thanks in advance!
Awesome video!! Very helpful.
Glad it was helpful! Thanks for watching.
Chadwick,
How do you update time code from audio for multiple audio files? I am using a Zoom H4n. I connected the tentacle sync to the ext. mic input and recorded the jam sync on a mic channel and then recorded audio on an xlr channel. It outputs multiple audio files. First Since the files are separate I would assume I need to merge them to a single left right track (composite track) but then I am not sure how to update time code. That field is not available for audio track. Any help would be appreciated.
Thanks for the content. It is too complicated for me right now but someday I might want to use it, so thanks again.
I appreciate checking it out and the honest feedback.
I eventually want to get an external recorder and some tentacle sync units so I can get better audio when I record live music events.
I think that is an excellent idea. When you are looking at audio recorders - look for devices that accept timecode this way they will convert in camera to metadata timecode like the sound devices mix pre 3 in this tutorial. Thanks for watching!
Thanks man, useful info. I bought an Atomos Ninja 7 mainly because my Sonny a6000 can't shoot for very long (mainly doing location classical music productions). Thinking of gradually transiting to Video Cameras (not photo cameras that do video) plus having some Photo cameras for when I need more than 4 camera angels at the same time.So, looking at the Tentancle Sync System and I was wondering if the Atomos is still relevant and useful or if I should sell it and get another monitor + Tentancle boxes. Thanks!
I would have never figured that out on my own!!! a biiiiiig thank you!!!
It took a bit of digging, but hopefully they simplify this in version 18. Thanks!
Topic idea: can you go over the new Flexbus system in resolve?
You have a superb teaching style and I can tell you research each video well to deliver dense info. Thank you!
Great suggestion! This hasn't been covered very much from what I can tell and it's a pretty cool feature. It's not something I use very much yet, but happy to try to dive in more and share what I learn. Thanks!
@@CreativeVideoTips Things to explore would be:
How to understand the flow of the signals (sending tracks to buses, buses to buses, and buses to tracks)
How to create Submixes (sending one or more tracks that belong to the same category, such as dialogue, to a single channel) that can be controlled with a single fader and or dynamics processing.
How to send a Submix signal to another channel for use in Sidechain compression so that a music bus or track can interact with a dialogue track/submix
Love your video style. Thanks for making these. May I ask where you got the little female thread-to-velcro adapters you have underneath each device? Mine didn't come with one of those.
Great tutorial! Easy to follow and good info.
Thank you! I appreciate you watching.
It's not giving me the option to update timecode from audio track
Really brilliant .. thanks for all of this. 10/10
You're very welcome!
Super helpful. Thanks
Glad it was helpful!
Great video Chadwick. Thanks
Thanks again, Chadwick. Great explanations as per your norm!
My pleasure! Thanks dude :)
Hello there, thank you for all the content you create this is really helpful. Do you know, or someone in the comment section, if it's possible to run with your camera while using the Tentacle Sync with an Atomos's device like the Ninja V?
👍👍👍 Exceptional thank you so much for this advanced multicam demonstration with DaVinci Resolve, but at this point, given your preparation on the subject, I want to ask you if there are any wireless timecode generators that can be connected to wi fi or bluetooth even to devices that do not have the jack socket such as latest generation smartphones
Thanks Fausto, not to my knowledge. This is possible to a phone I think but not to any cameras that I'm aware of. They all need to be physically plugged in. Hey on this topic though - there is a new kit from Deity that is like the tentacles but possibly more feature rich coming out in June. Watch for that!
thank you very much for the information I am very curious to see this Deity bye see you soon@@CreativeVideoTips
Hello, thank you for the video, it all works great, only my audio channels get grouped into one channel. I can still see the individual channels but i cannot seem to edit them individually. In the synch fast video from a fellow youtuber there is a very lengthy explanation how to get them into individual channels again but somehow I don't get it to work. I would very much appreciate an answer.
So once you "bake" in the timecode, (which I assume is just pulled from one of the channels) You can then retrieve, then sych? So you don't need to use the Tentacle sync software then. Correct?
Absolutely - that's one of the unique joys of Resolve. No need for the tentacle software when you edit with LTC timecode in Resolve or Avid.
The tentacle software is good, but it's an extra step that's not required.
@@CreativeVideoTips Thanks as always Chadwick
Thanks for producing this one it was really really useful!
Hey dude I have a quick question for you. First, thank you for the videos. They are super helpful. Second, I followed this video to the letter and my Zoom F6 isn't syncing up with the video in DaVinci. All 3 camera angles sync up and I can see all of the timecode and metadata on the Zoom but it puts the Zoom's audio file before the sync'd up video after opening the multicam in the timeline. I know everything is set up right as the camera's are syncing but am I missing something on the Zoom or in Davinci?
Thank you for such a good video which is the best on you tube if you are working with tentacles.
For me everything works except the "flatten multicam" part 'cause in 18.6 there's two options and if you select any the video just disapair :(
Thank you so much! I had been pulling my hair out trying to sync single camera w/audio tc, mix pre 6,and 2 track E tentacle recorders jam synced to mix pre which also provides tc for camera. Your video is the only source I have found on the internet that has helped. I am still having trouble keeping all the track E tracks it seems that Davinci resolve tends to want use the mix pre audio exclusively and I find myself having to add the track e tracks back manually.I am probably missing something. I have limited editing experience
Hi Rufus, this is a tough one. If I'm understanding correctly you have multiple sets of good audio. Because a Multicam only wants to use 1 audio source (angle), you will need to duplicate and manually stack up your multicams in a regular timeline so you can choose the correct audio angle to get all the good sound present. After this is done, you can proceed to flatten the Multicam on the audio, convert to linked group, unlink the group and edit as normal.
Let me know if this makes sense. It sounds like you're mostly on the right track (no pun intended).
I wish there was a clean way to take multiple audio sources and mux them virtually into a single clip so this wasn't the workflow. But I don't think there is without baking new files, which is a waste and time consuming.
Chadwick, thank you for taking the time To explain this. Yes I was figuring da Vinci was doing something like that just having confirmation that this is a limit and not some thing that I am just missing is helpful I’m still struggling a bit mainly because after years of shooting and handing the footage off I’m learning a new skill and the old brain is not quite as good as it used to be. I go back-and-forth from your videos until it clicks you are by far the best source I have found for Davinci Resolve
Masterclass here, Again resolve offers 101 ways to achieve the same goal your video really puts them all into context.
Chadwick, how did you got the timecode in the soundevice?
Good stuff (as usual)! I just hope that I can get to all of your tutorials before a new keyboard is released:-) Thanks for posting!
Glad you like them! That is very kind of you to say.
Fantastic! As always!
Thanks again! I really appreciate you and your kind words.
I'm new to Resolve (coming from Final Cut) but your videos have made the transition much easier...Thank you! Question about Auto Sync Audio Based on Timecode on the Media page: what happens to the camera scratch audio tracks? I can't see them in the Edit page, just the external audio recorder tracks. Does Resolve just assume you don't want to use scratch audio and throw it away?
you can choose auto sync and append tracks instead - this will let you still be able to use your original scratch audio if needed. Great to hear this channel has been helping the transition - its a fun appication.
This is so cool Chadwick,
I use two 32 bit Tenticale recorders currently. Could I use JAM Sync on NON pro cameras ?
I only have a Canon M50 and DJI pocket 2 and perhaps Android when i add that to the mix?
What you just showed would save so much time when sync on waveform fails.
Great video !
Oh yeah those track e recorders you have are compatible with the sync e from this video I believe.
The 2 things you need are a mic input and then also the ability to record the same frame rate. So just make sure they can all record the exact same framerate. Meaning 24 does not equal 23.98
@@CreativeVideoTips thank you Chadwick
@@CreativeVideoTips FYI - I found out the hard way that Sony's Alpha cameras say 24, but it's actually 23.98. I think DJI is the same.
So just to be clear, when using Tentacle with DR you don't need to first run the clips thru the TENTACLE SYNC STUDIO software - all the syncing can happen natively in DR, right?
Very nice, thank you for the video. My nerdy nature brought me to feed to the camera both the timecode as timecode signal and as audio signal at the same time. Once in Davinci, when changing the time code from metadata to the one from the audio track, I get always 2 frames out of sync. Any idea why?
Ah I love the tentacle sync.... I don't own them but I love them and they are my next investment.
Just done a video on timecode myself using a free app but would love me some tentacle syncs
They have been really helpful for sure. I'm curious what is the app? I'm super into anything about timecode lately and would love to check it out.
@@CreativeVideoTips its called LTC timecode generator, I have been using it as a visual and audio que for the cameras stopping the frame and setting the time code.
Works really well, the vid is on my channel, it's the last vid I done
That's very helpful and save lots of time. Thank you so much!
Awesome! Thanks chadwick!
Thanks so much for watching
Do you also have an option to sync audio to clips that are already in the timeline ? When you do DIT work at movie set you get the video footage at a different time than audio. Workflow would be grading the video footage when you get it and add the audio later when you get it at lunch break or when the day is over. Is there and Option for that ?
Yep, I totally get that. I remember always waiting at the end of shoot days to have the mixer copy his files for the DIT. And yes, in the timeline if you select one audio clip with one video clip you can right click and say auto align clips based on waveform or timecode. You can them link them together with command option L. Just know they are only linked on the timeline, not like a merged clip.
@@CreativeVideoTips Yes but that only works if the clip in the timeline already has audio. If you work on a movie set having Alexa or Red camereas. These cameras usually don´t record audio. And no operator wants an extra micro attached to his camera. All you have is timecode. And you begin the QC and pregrading once you get the video footage. Sound comes at lunch and at the end of the day. Can´t wait so long with QC and grading and I don´t want to redo the stuff. Woraround is also possible but super complicated.
The update timecode is not showing in resolve 18.5 -- do you know where I can find it?
Near the end of the video, after you have synced the dailies, you jump to the source tape to mark in/out points to append into the timeline. When I do this, the sync bin is using the old audio of the clip, not the newly synced audio. But once the clip is in the timeline, it uses the new audio. In the video here, I can't tell if yours is also doing this because you have the audio off. Is there a way in the sync bin to use the newly synced audio while selecting clips?
Thanks man! This saved me hours
When you update the timecode metadata ,you're clicking 'update timecode from audio track' however what if the Sync E is connected using the flash sync port in the case of the Panasonic S1H? Is this step still needed and if so will that work as the sync port is not an audio track
at 8:43, I dont have half the options you have when I right click a file, and I do not have "update timecode from audio track" is that something that requires the full paid version of resolve?
You're the man! Thank you so freaking much!
Do I need to use a specific tentacles as master tentacle or any tentacle units can be a master?
Good question. Any of them can be a master. The phone app to sync is how I like to do it.
@@CreativeVideoTips that's awesome dude. I don't understand why they only sell one unit and two units of tentacles on line? How about if I need four tentacles? Can I still match those other two extra units without hassle. Sorry I'm starter for all of this. Thank you so much for your answer. I appreciate you for educating me.
Ingenious video!
Thank you so much for your insights! Your content is very valuable
You're so welcome!
Hello There! What if you have only one camera and mutliple audiorecorders?
Hi Max, that's an interesting thought. I have never tested using multiple audio recorders but I suppose it would also work.
Question: I have 3 of 4 items synced perfectly. My Blackmagic 6K (+Sync E), Tentacle Track E, Zoom F6 (+Sync E) all take in the time code metadata, but my Sony A1 I have a Tentacle Sync E constantly plugged in and it's recording "audio timecode".
So when I drop it in, everything syncs up immediately except for the Sony. Expected.
I did what you suggested using "Update Timecode from Audio Track" and everything synced!
My only problem is in my footage I'm holding up the Tentacle "Timebar" app which basically is a digital slate.
I noticed that the Sony is off by 2 frames.
Is there something I can do to fix this?
great sharing tips and love it. here I subscribed.
SUPER TIPS. Lets`go bro 🤟
Hi Chadwick, I have an audio related question. Is there a way to modify the left and right channel individually in an multi channel audio track for this workflow and using synced with timecode audio for cut page and multicam edting? one of my two channel recordings (for a day) had a 19ms delay for a digital mic but I used an analog mic with no delay? So now I get what sounds llike an echo as the two mics from the two channels are 19 milliseconds out of sync with each other in my multicannel wave audio file from my audio recorder? I gues I could make two coppies and take left from one and right from one and nudge them but I was hoping to fix it in a more clean way so I could use cut page sync bin workflow. Thank you for your channel and great videos.
Any reason, after following these steps, that I'm unable to sync using timecode?