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Jexus never fails to squeeze the uniqueness out of ANY synthesizer. I waited years to finally get my hands on my dream synth, the Summit. It’s just nice to sit down and play, no limitations, many happy accidents and often many complexities I’m still learning, but that’s the synth journey. You journeyed well on this one! I’ll be purchasing these patches in the near future. Thanks for your great work!
This is superb. Damn man, I’m not in the market for a new synth, but you show this as a true power house for the studio. A REAL chameleon! I usually go for more “characterful” synths like the ESQ-1, DSS-1, SY77, and have the Opsix as my “do absolutely anything and more studio chameleon,” but you’ve made an excellent case for the Peak/Summit. Not that I don’t still love my Opsix, especially after the firmware update!
Thanks! I also thought the Opsix was a “do absolutely anything and more studio chameleon", and I still think it is to a considerable degree, but now that I've played the Peak / Summit, the Opsix started to sound kinda cheesy to me;)
@@Jexus It actually kind of adds to the vibe of the video that the audio quality gets slightly munched. I have a Summit on loan at the moment, it does sound fantastic in the flesh, yep. Would love to see you on a UDO Super 6. One of my favourite modern synths and unique in its design.
@@AlexBallMusic It's on my radar, but I learned a financially painful lesson with the Opsix. I got so excited that I bought it the day it was released. I paid 777 Euro. After six months or so it was available at 540. I know the UDO isn't this type of synth, but I'll cling to my hopes for a little bit longer;)
@@AlexBallMusic demo units? They should GIVE you BOTH those synths as a token of gratitude, plus cash (not joking). Please don't undervalue your worth to these companies. You sell a ton of synthesizers and should be compensated by the same companies that you support with these great videos. Yeap, free synth, cash and total control over your videos, unbiased opinion. If the gear is good, they will vouch for it without turning youtubers into advertisers. Keep up the good work!
Dude you should seriously do soundtracks for movies, your creativity is on another level. All of this music feels like it could be on some show or something
Ahhh what timing! Thank you! Was searching for peak patches just as you posted this. Definite purchase! Novation should have some of your patches included as a bank on the utility. These are definitely some of the most unique.
Instead of BSII, maybe a Model D or something by Dreadbox, and then something that does samples. And a drum machine. And something that does Yamaha style FM. And physical modeling. And a K5000. And a NDLR, and a Cirklon. And a piano/Rhodes thing. And an Elektron sequencer. But that's about it. MPE, too.
It does indeed have 'the novation sound'. I was surprised to hear a lot of sonic similarities to the good old bass station but with somewhat clearer tone.
After many years of asking, you finally did the Summit. A synth that simply can be called as one of the best synths ever made. It deserves it's place between synths like the D50, DX7, JD990, Prophet 5, VS, PPG2.3. In 40 years, people will go crazy again for this futire classic... Now it's time to start looking at the waldorf Kyra. Another heavily undersetimated synth... go get to work dude.
Awesome industrial sounds you can do with this machine, heard some Nitzer Ebb in there for sure :P The shocker was hearing some Van Halen like thingy XD
I very much hope you go to PolyBrute next. I want to (finally) get an analogue poly, but I can't decide between REV2 and PolyBrute. Some people even went so far to compare it to a Jupiter8.
Don't listen to all this talk. Synth nerds have been comparing everything to everything else since day one. Juno-60 was a cheap Jupiter-8, Korg Prologue was "a modern Jupiter-8", the Solaris, and now Polybrute 😅
@@Jexus you're a god in this community for a reason bro. You kinda' treat these machines like motorcycles, or sportscars... you push them to their limits, you let people hear what they can do Beyond The Presets, and in ways before they hadn't even imagined, in super creative contexts. It allows people, I feel, to get a more accurate idea/image of what each machine is, what it's capable of, what it can truly do.
@@Jexus I've been having a hard time figuring that synth out based on videos! Was on the fence between a Peak and a Modwave but just found a used Peak so going with that for now. :) Still would be interested in your take on the Modwave.
Jexus delivers the goods again .how many hours did it take to create all those patches? There's only you and Don solaris that do these insane videos.i want more .here's a tune just for you Jexus th-cam.com/video/cQfabF7nK9Y/w-d-xo.html
They're on the same level of quality, fun and usability. So in this respect I cannot pick "the best" one. When it comes to sound, I like the Peak / Summit better for classic synth sounds, warm & soft tones and smooth bass. But I like Hydra better when I need some original timbres and dynamics of the patches. Especially good for cinematic stuff and acoustic imitations. Read more: sounds-for-synths.com/
Does this sound collection also include Multi Combi patches for Summit only? If not, do you plan to make a Summit only patches collection? Thanks in advance !
My soundpack has 256 patches in total. It includes Bank A (128 patches) + Bank B (128 patches) + Bank Multi (10 setups). All the patches can be imported into both Peak or Summit. The "Multi Bank" is just a setup of 2 individual patches from bank A or bank B. It exists just for technical purposes. Anybody can arrange the Multi setup as they like. For example: the last performance in this video (the techno beat @24:41) is a "Multi". This multi is patch B-105 + patch B-097. I won't be making a "Summit only" collection, becasue the Peak & summit are pretty identical, so there's no point;)
First of all, thank you so much for your kind answer. It is true that Peak & Summit sound engines are pretty identical (although there are still *very* light differences, like the double filtering that Peak doesn’t have), however I don’t agree when you say ‘It exists just for technical purposes’. It is still a matter of sound design activity and ‘art’ when you use 2 sounds to make a multi combination, as a chef who makes a dish starting from the ingredients. You can decide to make a layer, a split and so on, it is not just a case of pairing 2 sounds in a ‘random’ way, plus it is much easier to face some problems like audio-clipping. Best regards.
@@HaroldDemura Well, yes of course, you can approach it as "art" and consider it an artisitc choice (i mean the way you combine layer / splits). But I won't change my opinion that in this case my Multi Setups are just a technical way of playing two patches from bank A and bank B. I want people who own Peak to understand that the "Multi" presets are not some totally new & original & unattainable sounds - they are simply the sounds from bank A & bank B played simultaneously (just because Summit allows to do that, technically).
For a strange reason i cannot answer you at my previous comment-question. I asked which synth you find more punchy(udo6, peak, ob6) and you replied, trying to define my question. So... yes, right. Iam interested probably for punchy envelopes. punchy basses, stabs, pluck sounds. I already own a mks80, juno60, prophet6(and soon the ensoniq esq1).. I like the peak sound(from the demos) and i need a wavetable synth but iam not sure if it will satisfy me for punchy sounds
If you go with the Peak, it will give you full freedom in creating any kind of those sounds that you mentioned. Just focus on envelopes + distortion / overdrive and manipulate it all in the mod-matrix;) The OB-6 and the Super-6 are more direct, but the modulations possibilities aren't as wide.
thanks! I know that peak is fore flexoble but what about the punch and the quality of the sound? Do you mean that ob6 and udo have a more direct sound or the sound design is more direct?
@@stergiost.6246 "Fast" is not necessarily the thing. You should rather focus on curves. If a synth has envelope curves that you don't like (or there is no way to modulate them), that's a big problem. I think it would be best if you played these synths in person (in a store?) to know what I mean;)
All patches are saved as single layer patches. In the demo that you have just watched I'm sometimes using the bi-timbral setting of the Summit (multimode active = pitch & mod wheels illuminated in blue, like @24:41). If you have a Peak, you will receive the collection as a pack of 250 single layer patches. If you have a Summit, you will get the 250 single layer patches PLUS 10 multimode setups.
Weird you say that. I did the same. Main reason it doesn’t get used here is that I can handle sound design on MODx, OB6, CS15, Deluge, DX7, Gaia… but the Summit never seems to behave how you want it to. I might have sold the Summit by the time this comment is a month old…
["too big for your britches US informal (UK too big for your boots)": behaving as if you are more important than you really are]. I think first you should tell me how important I really am, otherwise this kind of comment is quite confusing:)
@@Jexus you’ve always had a huge significance/importance in the synth community in my view. So my comment is both me stating my opinion that $33USD is indeed expensive for patches and that you must also feel this way about yourself by asking this amount. So in a way I am saying that your price sort of reflects that you yourself must feel important/significant or you would have a more modest price for them. None of this is particularly bad. Perhaps you are just very confident. If I had your following I’m sure I would do similarly…but I’m a nobody. So, carry on. I hope you make a mint. 👍
The very best demo possible of course. And the synth... so capable, but... just boring. The sounds are so lifeless, even when they have lots of motion. I'm sure it's fine in a mix, but I just don't care. It doesn't get my blood moving.
Everybody has their ugly-sounding synth;) People who don't like Novations or Modals call them "lifeless". Hydra is "plastic", REV-2 is "brassy", PRO-3 is "digital", Arturias are "woody", etc.
@@Jexus - I don’t think it’s ugly at all… just nowhere near as interesting as Hydrasynth. The Novations are super capable, but in the end just too… controlled, too perfect. There’s no chaos or weirdness or odd corners.
@@hostnik777 I can agree with the fact that Novations sound "controlled / perfect". But I could say exactly the same thing about the Hydrasynth. Of course the HS has more ways to escape or minimalize this "perfection", but that doesn't change the fact that the basic sound from which you start your sound design is "perfect" - unlike Korg Prologue for example, which sounds like a vintage dirty record from the very first minute. Of course the Prologue is nowhere near Hydra's versatility. And Novations are "warmer" than the HS, so in the end we have to buy and keep them all... 😅
By trying to be a bit of everything, I find the Peak/Summit doesn’t really do anything satisfyingly … and the (esp MIDI) bugs in the Summit (from it being 2 Peaks squashed together), which now seem unlikely to ever be fixed, are a real turn-off …
@@Jexus That’s probably a good way of putting it … the sounds all seem kind of generic; the most analogue it can sound is still very digital to my ears (even with the drift feature, etc); harsher/colder sounds it can do OK. If you can only have one synth to try to cover everything, it’s probably pretty decent … but there are synths that do everything it can do, better. I feel like it would only really be a ‘filler’/‘background’ synth, amongst a collection of synths that included full analog voices, classic digital sounds, etc … 🤷🏻♂️
@@kierenmoore3236 I considering a Peak or a Opsix lately and I’m scrolling to trough pro and cons comments. I find yours thought on it quite interesting. Which other synth in the same price range would you recommended?
@@jhdrummer4815 Hi. That would depend on the kind of sounds you want to make/cover, and which synths you already have … Do you want classic/vintage analog poly sounds and, if so, do you already have those sounds covered with your existing gear?! If you’re considering an Opsix, do you already have a good MIDI keyboard controller and Dexed?!
@@kierenmoore3236 Hi thanks, I’m leaning towards House music and synth pop, not so much on ultra vintage stuff or ambient. I’m looking for sounds covering mainly chords stabs, melodic leads and some pads. As said considering the gear I already have. I’m not that worried about a good Midi keyboard controller. Yes I play keys but I will also trigger from an hardware sequencer and DAW.
@@Jexus could you use your synthfluence to get them to make firmware v.5 include a nice tuned/pitched percussion. Maybe T-network to do pitched 808s, synthetics toms, bongos, clicks etc... like the ADDAC 103/104 module maybe with a saturation stage.
@@PORRFNK that would be great. Makes me think, what happened some of other companies that made interesting synths and samplers. Ensoniq and Emu, for example... If Casio wouldn't do it, Twisted Electrons might. Or maybe someone from the software world, like Olli, could team up with hardware people.
🎹 How to buy my 250 patches + review & tips = sounds-for-synths.com/novation-peak-summit/
🎹 Part 2 of this video: th-cam.com/video/nPus6A1ushM/w-d-xo.html
🎹 I did not use any external FX in the demo; all the delays, reverbs, noises and other effects are part of the Peak / Summit engine & mod matrix.
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Hey Jexus, I want to buy these but the link doesn't work for some reason. I've tried here and various synth blog/magazine links.
@@nevadasage5 Hey, that's weird, it works on my end. Please write me at wcologarb @ gmail.com
our synth lord heard our prayers for dedicating his time to summit.
Jexus never fails to squeeze the uniqueness out of ANY synthesizer. I waited years to finally get my hands on my dream synth, the Summit. It’s just nice to sit down and play, no limitations, many happy accidents and often many complexities I’m still learning, but that’s the synth journey. You journeyed well on this one! I’ll be purchasing these patches in the near future. Thanks for your great work!
Yeees, that Industrial section is fire as always! Love your EBM/Industrial sounds! Awesome Nitzer recreation there ;)
So much Jexus energy went into these immaculate patches that there was nothing left in the tank for cryptic and mystifying patch names
Unless you think "TECHNO" or "ROLAND" are terrifying.
Happy to see you back. I always enjoy your sound collages.
The Jexus journey is still on a roll!!! Yes! Been itching for another video release. Fantastic as always.
This is superb. Damn man, I’m not in the market for a new synth, but you show this as a true power house for the studio. A REAL chameleon! I usually go for more “characterful” synths like the ESQ-1, DSS-1, SY77, and have the Opsix as my “do absolutely anything and more studio chameleon,” but you’ve made an excellent case for the Peak/Summit. Not that I don’t still love my Opsix, especially after the firmware update!
Thanks! I also thought the Opsix was a “do absolutely anything and more studio chameleon", and I still think it is to a considerable degree, but now that I've played the Peak / Summit, the Opsix started to sound kinda cheesy to me;)
Amazing work and sound design Jexus! Very inspiring and really shows off the vast capabilities of Summit and Peak. Congrats!
Thanks! Poland greets Canada;)
@@Jexus Na Zdrowie! :)
The Novation synths are really great and this is the perfect demonstration of why.
Hi Alex. And this is after TH-cam cuts it down to 384 kbps! It sounds much better in person.
@@Jexus It actually kind of adds to the vibe of the video that the audio quality gets slightly munched.
I have a Summit on loan at the moment, it does sound fantastic in the flesh, yep.
Would love to see you on a UDO Super 6. One of my favourite modern synths and unique in its design.
@@AlexBallMusic It's on my radar, but I learned a financially painful lesson with the Opsix. I got so excited that I bought it the day it was released. I paid 777 Euro. After six months or so it was available at 540. I know the UDO isn't this type of synth, but I'll cling to my hopes for a little bit longer;)
@@Jexus I'll ask about their demo units and whether they'd loan you one. I'm just posting it back to them today funnily enough.
@@AlexBallMusic demo units? They should GIVE you BOTH those synths as a token of gratitude, plus cash (not joking). Please don't undervalue your worth to these companies. You sell a ton of synthesizers and should be compensated by the same companies that you support with these great videos. Yeap, free synth, cash and total control over your videos, unbiased opinion. If the gear is good, they will vouch for it without turning youtubers into advertisers. Keep up the good work!
Dude you should seriously do soundtracks for movies, your creativity is on another level. All of this music feels like it could be on some show or something
Thanks. For now it's a one-man-show 😅 👹
Glad to see you around 15 years later. Hope you've been able to sort out every single aspect you care about Jexus.
❤️🙌✊
Did you read his assessment of the Summit? I thought Jexus made some valid points. I hope Novation addresses his recommendations.
@@marrymemaddie Finally they did!:) Now you can download the 2.0 firmware update with voice panning, new FX and more.
Never thought I'd see jexus still making content after such a long hiatus. What a great time to be alive
17:50 Its great to hear you play Blood again!
I love these.
I think I’d like to see a huge pack of just vintage inspired sounds, dx7, Juno, moog, prophet and oberheim
Thank you for doing this for the summit! Been a fan of yours for awhile but it’s great to hear you design sounds on something I have.
Ahhh what timing! Thank you! Was searching for peak patches just as you posted this. Definite purchase! Novation should have some of your patches included as a bank on the utility. These are definitely some of the most unique.
Amazing sounds. I have the Summit and this just proves how powerful it is.
Thank you for blessing us in these times. Consider my money yours
You made my day with the Nizer Ebb - Join in the Chant @13:04
Lit up here as well !
:)
Nice one! Novation has done great job with their new synths.
"Something I Can Never Have" at 12:38? Hah. Very cool patch!
Well spotted
This synth seems to be able do a hell of a lot, maybe ill get this setup one day, im already building Eurorack modules with my trusty soldering iron
Amazing sounds and vid. Unfortunate that you had to declare bankruptcy at 10:48, but you bravely carried on anyway.
What bankruptcy?
@@montazownianr1 = a dad joke from another country’s financial/legal system process.
Wow what a combination all this needs is a bass station 2
Instead of BSII, maybe a Model D or something by Dreadbox, and then something that does samples. And a drum machine. And something that does Yamaha style FM. And physical modeling. And a K5000. And a NDLR, and a Cirklon. And a piano/Rhodes thing. And an Elektron sequencer. But that's about it. MPE, too.
I'd love to see what Jexus could do with an Erebus v3. I bet he could make some really wild patches, just no way to save them.
Thank you for another great ride on the Synth Train !
Peak/summit might have the best onboard reverb of any synth, ever
It should have a reverb-off against Modwave, Polybrute and Moog One, to see who comes out the best.
Now this is how the Novation Summit/Peak sounds.
And this is after TH-cam cuts it down to 384 kbps codec! It sounds much better in person.
It does indeed have 'the novation sound'. I was surprised to hear a lot of sonic similarities to the good old bass station but with somewhat clearer tone.
Oh it's you. No wonder it's wonderful.
Congratulations, now I want a summit....
Wow the Noice FX was absolutley beautiful :)
Welcome back!
17:50 nice to hear this classic :D
Because the Peak / Summit sounds really close to Juno-60!
@@Jexus this synth is inspiring by itself, but after hearing these sounds I'm sold! Thank you!
Awesome work, I love the format
After many years of asking, you finally did the Summit. A synth that simply can be called as one of the best synths ever made. It deserves it's place between synths like the D50, DX7, JD990, Prophet 5, VS, PPG2.3. In 40 years, people will go crazy again for this futire classic... Now it's time to start looking at the waldorf Kyra. Another heavily undersetimated synth... go get to work dude.
Awesome industrial sounds you can do with this machine, heard some Nitzer Ebb in there for sure :P The shocker was hearing some Van Halen like thingy XD
The Van Halen patch is there to attract 50+yo synth nerds 😅
@@Jexus And you succeeded with that Van Halen patch! I loved it! I don’t have a Summit but now wish I could get one. Nice work on these patches! 🔥🎹🎵🔥
That was actually a Van Hagar patch
Didn't expect the Van Halen 🤣
I like Van Halen, Van Damme and VW Van
Outro a050 gives me a Super nintendo almost like a sampled grainy cartridge sort of thing.
Jeex, I just love weird sounding synths. Pozdro! 😎
Very Nice! Studio Tour?
Fuck you are cool. Excellent references.
Really interesting sounds!
I very much hope you go to PolyBrute next. I want to (finally) get an analogue poly, but I can't decide between REV2 and PolyBrute. Some people even went so far to compare it to a Jupiter8.
Don't listen to all this talk. Synth nerds have been comparing everything to everything else since day one. Juno-60 was a cheap Jupiter-8, Korg Prologue was "a modern Jupiter-8", the Solaris, and now Polybrute 😅
On the Summit, the Volume of the overall patches is very low compared to the other Patches (for example Factory patches).
Yes, part 8 here explains this: sounds-for-synths.com/faq/
Thanks...did not read it:(
17:50 Krew [Blood]!
YESSSSSSSS. One of my all-time favorites!!!!
Awesome!!!
Awesome work!
Thanks ✌
@@Jexus you're a god in this community for a reason bro. You kinda' treat these machines like motorcycles, or sportscars... you push them to their limits, you let people hear what they can do Beyond The Presets, and in ways before they hadn't even imagined, in super creative contexts.
It allows people, I feel, to get a more accurate idea/image of what each machine is, what it's capable of, what it can truly do.
6:00 Charly The Kid
Can you get a POLYEND MEDUSA and show what you can do with it? It’s a very interesting synth
Thanks, great patches and review! Are you still working on a Korg Modwave review?
Also, the patch/chapter naming is great, very easy to find the most relevant sounds.
Thank you. Yes, I've been playing the Modwave and I'm gathering my thoughts;)
@@Jexus I've been having a hard time figuring that synth out based on videos! Was on the fence between a Peak and a Modwave but just found a used Peak so going with that for now. :) Still would be interested in your take on the Modwave.
Im gonna try my damndest to re-create some of these on my Deepmind12, wish me luck boys
Good luck!
oh. my. god.
Thank you king!!
love it
Hey weren't you gonna to do a vid for the Sequential Pro 3 a while back? Is that still coming?
It will come.
awesome
yesss
What's the song in 15:00, or is it original, I think I heard it somewhere before.
Why Can't This Be Love
The best.
Can i use all the sounds with peak as well? I know that peak is fewer wavetables😢
Yes, you can, don't worry.
Is there a smooth transition when selecting one sound to the next?.....ie..the previous sound still rings on the keys pressed?.....
Jexus delivers the goods again .how many hours did it take to create all those patches? There's only you and Don solaris that do these insane videos.i want more .here's a tune just for you Jexus th-cam.com/video/cQfabF7nK9Y/w-d-xo.html
been waiting on this. trying to compare this to the hydrasynth. figuring out which one to buy
If you listened to both demos and you're still in two minds about it, read my write-ups about the workflow and user interface: sounds-for-synths.com/
Great demo and soundset!
Which modern polysynth you find more punchy? Peak, udo6, ob6 or polybrute?
Thanks! I haven't played the Polybrute. But punchy how? As in the punchiness of the envelopes?
Omg, the patch at 12:00 is amazing. Is that a recreation of something or original?
That's a melody / sequence I came up with by myself, but it could be anything, as the structure / dynamic is very "NIN-ish" as Aaron says.
Hydrasynth vs. Summit, which do you like better?
They're on the same level of quality, fun and usability. So in this respect I cannot pick "the best" one. When it comes to sound, I like the Peak / Summit better for classic synth sounds, warm & soft tones and smooth bass. But I like Hydra better when I need some original timbres and dynamics of the patches. Especially good for cinematic stuff and acoustic imitations. Read more: sounds-for-synths.com/
apples and pears
@@Jexus Thanks. I can see some advantages to each one. The Hydra Deluxe looks interesting for making very complex patches in multi.
Does this sound collection also include Multi Combi patches for Summit only? If not, do you plan to make a Summit only patches collection? Thanks in advance !
My soundpack has 256 patches in total. It includes Bank A (128 patches) + Bank B (128 patches) + Bank Multi (10 setups). All the patches can be imported into both Peak or Summit. The "Multi Bank" is just a setup of 2 individual patches from bank A or bank B. It exists just for technical purposes. Anybody can arrange the Multi setup as they like. For example: the last performance in this video (the techno beat @24:41) is a "Multi". This multi is patch B-105 + patch B-097.
I won't be making a "Summit only" collection, becasue the Peak & summit are pretty identical, so there's no point;)
First of all, thank you so much for your kind answer. It is true that Peak & Summit sound engines are pretty identical (although there are still *very* light differences, like the double filtering that Peak doesn’t have), however I don’t agree when you say ‘It exists just for technical purposes’. It is still a matter of sound design activity and ‘art’ when you use 2 sounds to make a multi combination, as a chef who makes a dish starting from the ingredients. You can decide to make a layer, a split and so on, it is not just a case of pairing 2 sounds in a ‘random’ way, plus it is much easier to face some problems like audio-clipping. Best regards.
@@HaroldDemura Well, yes of course, you can approach it as "art" and consider it an artisitc choice (i mean the way you combine layer / splits). But I won't change my opinion that in this case my Multi Setups are just a technical way of playing two patches from bank A and bank B. I want people who own Peak to understand that the "Multi" presets are not some totally new & original & unattainable sounds - they are simply the sounds from bank A & bank B played simultaneously (just because Summit allows to do that, technically).
Yes, from this point of view the ‘ingredients’ (Part A Patch & Part B Patch) are exactly the same in both Peak and Summit. I do agree :)
For a strange reason i cannot answer you at my previous comment-question. I asked which synth you find more punchy(udo6, peak, ob6) and you replied, trying to define my question.
So... yes, right. Iam interested probably for punchy envelopes. punchy basses, stabs, pluck sounds. I already own a mks80, juno60, prophet6(and soon the ensoniq esq1).. I like the peak sound(from the demos) and i need a wavetable synth but iam not sure if it will satisfy me for punchy sounds
If you go with the Peak, it will give you full freedom in creating any kind of those sounds that you mentioned. Just focus on envelopes + distortion / overdrive and manipulate it all in the mod-matrix;) The OB-6 and the Super-6 are more direct, but the modulations possibilities aren't as wide.
thanks! I know that peak is fore flexoble but what about the punch and the quality of the sound? Do you mean that ob6 and udo have a more direct sound or the sound design is more direct?
@@stergiost.6246 Sound design / interface is more direct (becasue it's more limited;)
Ok, thanks! So, do you find that those synths have equally fast/punchy env and sound?
@@stergiost.6246 "Fast" is not necessarily the thing. You should rather focus on curves. If a synth has envelope curves that you don't like (or there is no way to modulate them), that's a big problem. I think it would be best if you played these synths in person (in a store?) to know what I mean;)
!!!!!!
Can these sounda be done with just the peak
Yes, Peak is enough for these sounds.
Are these Patches all a Single Layer ? Or are there Layered / Split patches (Summit) ?
All patches are saved as single layer patches. In the demo that you have just watched I'm sometimes using the bi-timbral setting of the Summit (multimode active = pitch & mod wheels illuminated in blue, like @24:41). If you have a Peak, you will receive the collection as a pack of 250 single layer patches. If you have a Summit, you will get the 250 single layer patches PLUS 10 multimode setups.
Somebody! Give me these two tools! You are welcome. How would it fit perfectly with my Ensoniq SD-1.
This is the one of the only synths I bought and don't really use, its sad it does sound good but I don't get inspired by it
Weird you say that. I did the same. Main reason it doesn’t get used here is that I can handle sound design on MODx, OB6, CS15, Deluge, DX7, Gaia… but the Summit never seems to behave how you want it to. I might have sold the Summit by the time this comment is a month old…
Pricey presets!!! 😬 Jexus has gotten quite big for his britches. Then again, I guess Jexus has pretty big britches.
["too big for your britches US informal (UK too big for your boots)": behaving as if you are more important than you really are]. I think first you should tell me how important I really am, otherwise this kind of comment is quite confusing:)
Not really that pricey. Pennies a patch. Do you even have a Summit/Peak?
@@moonsofjupiter yes. Yes I do.
@@cdwhiley You haven't replied to my comment. Will you? Just say no if not... don't sit there silent as a grave:)
@@Jexus you’ve always had a huge significance/importance in the synth community in my view. So my comment is both me stating my opinion that $33USD is indeed expensive for patches and that you must also feel this way about yourself by asking this amount. So in a way I am saying that your price sort of reflects that you yourself must feel important/significant or you would have a more modest price for them. None of this is particularly bad. Perhaps you are just very confident. If I had your following I’m sure I would do similarly…but I’m a nobody. So, carry on. I hope you make a mint. 👍
The very best demo possible of course. And the synth... so capable, but... just boring. The sounds are so lifeless, even when they have lots of motion. I'm sure it's fine in a mix, but I just don't care. It doesn't get my blood moving.
Everybody has their ugly-sounding synth;) People who don't like Novations or Modals call them "lifeless". Hydra is "plastic", REV-2 is "brassy", PRO-3 is "digital", Arturias are "woody", etc.
@@Jexus it's all down too the filters
@@Roland_Tr909_Swing The filter in the Summit is bananas, no one could possibly call it lifeless, it's so juicy!
@@Jexus - I don’t think it’s ugly at all… just nowhere near as interesting as Hydrasynth. The Novations are super capable, but in the end just too… controlled, too perfect. There’s no chaos or weirdness or odd corners.
@@hostnik777 I can agree with the fact that Novations sound "controlled / perfect". But I could say exactly the same thing about the Hydrasynth. Of course the HS has more ways to escape or minimalize this "perfection", but that doesn't change the fact that the basic sound from which you start your sound design is "perfect" - unlike Korg Prologue for example, which sounds like a vintage dirty record from the very first minute. Of course the Prologue is nowhere near Hydra's versatility. And Novations are "warmer" than the HS, so in the end we have to buy and keep them all... 😅
This or the Hydrasynth
1000% This.
But do read unscumgamer2003's question and Jxs's response further below. ;)
Summit for more quick& warm sounds / Hydra for more offbeat & soundtracky experiments.
this fucking video
11:50 That's *EBM* not EDM!
Yes... so do you like it or not?
By trying to be a bit of everything, I find the Peak/Summit doesn’t really do anything satisfyingly … and the (esp MIDI) bugs in the Summit (from it being 2 Peaks squashed together), which now seem unlikely to ever be fixed, are a real turn-off …
You mean its sound doesn't have a "character"?
@@Jexus That’s probably a good way of putting it … the sounds all seem kind of generic; the most analogue it can sound is still very digital to my ears (even with the drift feature, etc); harsher/colder sounds it can do OK. If you can only have one synth to try to cover everything, it’s probably pretty decent … but there are synths that do everything it can do, better. I feel like it would only really be a ‘filler’/‘background’ synth, amongst a collection of synths that included full analog voices, classic digital sounds, etc … 🤷🏻♂️
@@kierenmoore3236 I considering a Peak or a Opsix lately and I’m scrolling to trough pro and cons comments. I find yours thought on it quite interesting. Which other synth in the same price range would you recommended?
@@jhdrummer4815 Hi. That would depend on the kind of sounds you want to make/cover, and which synths you already have … Do you want classic/vintage analog poly sounds and, if so, do you already have those sounds covered with your existing gear?! If you’re considering an Opsix, do you already have a good MIDI keyboard controller and Dexed?!
@@kierenmoore3236 Hi thanks, I’m leaning towards House music and synth pop, not so much on ultra vintage stuff or ambient. I’m looking for sounds covering mainly chords stabs, melodic leads and some pads. As said considering the gear I already have. I’m not that worried about a good Midi keyboard controller. Yes I play keys but I will also trigger from an hardware sequencer and DAW.
Can’t dig it.
FINALLY Jexus did the Summit. FINALLY !! (and one of the best sound sets, besides my own, I've heard!) 🙂
Jexus.
The MicroFreak awaits you.......
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I know 😸 It's on my list.
@@Jexus *applause* :)
@@Jexus could you use your synthfluence to get them to make firmware v.5 include a nice tuned/pitched percussion. Maybe T-network to do pitched 808s, synthetics toms, bongos, clicks etc... like the ADDAC 103/104 module maybe with a saturation stage.
@@compucorder64 Would be better if he could talk some sense into Casio and re-release the CZ as a Yamaha Reface style keyboard
@@PORRFNK that would be great. Makes me think, what happened some of other companies that made interesting synths and samplers. Ensoniq and Emu, for example... If Casio wouldn't do it, Twisted Electrons might. Or maybe someone from the software world, like Olli, could team up with hardware people.