only reason i prefer elmos with striker over chameleon is the accuracy at range aswel as mag size and utility as god knows how many times those shock rounds have saved me but chameleon is 1000% slept on great alternative
As I mentioned near the end of the video that this video is not to tell you to use Chameleon instead of St. Elmo's Engine but rather use both and see which one you feel is right for you and as for new players If you don't have St. Elmo's Engine then do try the Chameleon as the Weapon gives more Crit chance than St Elmo's and it will help you set up your build :)
great video, thanks for new players like me. I just have a question, do you have to shoot consecutively to get the buff, no miss, no body/head shot switch, etc ? I never get the buff, I think because the enemies die first or I miss, then the counter is reset.
@@tanayayt9283 You can miss. When you are in combat and fire your weapon you gain stacks which adds up when you hit your target and the stacks vary depends on where you hit your target and the moment you land your 1st shot and gain the stack you have 45secs of the buff and then you have to rebuild it. Don't swap weapons or you lose it. But you can easily build one stack to get one buff and build the other stack and by the time your previous stack expires you have the 2nd buffs this way you can keep atleast one buff at all times.
Chameleon is good, but St. Elmo's provides what every striker build needs: Survivability through effects, mainly the shock rounds. If we are talking Raw DPS then most AR's with the Strained Talent will outdps both Chameleon and St Elmo's
@@cultokHow? Shock rounds sometimes do more harm than good, it's true that they can save your ass but if you shoot a target they'll most likely crouch under the effect and if they're behind a low cover you can't hit them until they uncrouch. The reason why people use it is because it's a police M4 with better capacity, accuracy and a lot of crit chance and crit damage
the tiny damage bump is not worth playing the mini game on the chameleon imo. Also the chameleon offers no crowd control like the st elmos does, which drastically increases it's usefulness in both solo & group content. like crowd control is such an important aspect in this game, that I can't foresee a single reason why I would choose a tiny bit more damage over completely shutting down an enemy for any reason whatsoever.
Everyone has different opinion. Some will take the Chameleon over St. Elmo's Just because they like the way it works. A lot of old players and also some of my friends they just have a Chameleon maxed out on expertise with Striker and use it in all content and I will never bet with someone to make them swap it because I know I will lose :D
This is a great video because it’s shines light on the chameleon for new players, it is literally the easiest exotic AR to obtain…I get it by accident nowadays💀I got 6 in less than 4 hours from just playing
I recommend some leg shots after body, the reload is insane. You still get body damage and quickly stack the reload. It is damn near an instant reload. Finish up with the head, rinse and repeat. Once you get this rhythm down muscle memory takes over and it is easy to keep them up.
Oh yeah the reload speed is just crazy fast. I mean without that Chameleon reloads at 1.7 secs and then if you add the reload speed on top of it. It becomes the fastest reloading weapon in the game.
Really happy to hear it. When I don't know what weapon to use on a build I Equip Chameleon. But a lot of people miss understands it may be because they don't know how to use it. So, I decided to cover that in this video :)
Interesting take. It's definitely has the DPS when buffed however the ability to stop all enemies with a full mag, to do that dmg unimpeded with the shok ammo buff on top of that have a higher base dmg with no need to shoot legs or chest is where the st Elmo's is better. Where chameleon just doesn't have that and have to play shoot the leg/chest)head. (essentially you are playing catch-up for the lack of DPS at the start of combat or when on cooldown) No need to fill 3 bars to get 3 different buffs. Chameleon was a good idea but just isn't a hit due to its burst dmg compared to most other weapons where it's constant/ active more frequently. The nerf to it way back then is what made it a permanent ornament on my wall. Plus you can't beat meta builds easily. Like right now it's St Elmo's and striker with under 1.1 million armour. With coyotes mask. I also would use Picarios holster or foxes prayer kneepads or contractors gloves. (Go off what you reroll/ have st Elmo's sub attribute at. Dmg out of cover is best imo since you are pulling em out of cover or use dmg to armour)
The stacks you've gained don't disappear, eventually the buff will be going, and if you are killing fast enough you can keep it up for whatever you are doing with ease. You are right about the range though, it plays like an SMG.
Ended up getting St. Elmo's and Chameleon fighting Rogue agents (the NPCs, not DZ) on Heroic tonight, and I actually like Chameleon a lot better than St. Elmo's. I'm glad I found this video so I can run a good Chameleon build as a change of pace instead of running my Vile build constantly
Saw this video a week ago and grinded to get the exact same gear, but later swapped out the Sombra chest piece for a Ceska (Ceska offers better value on CHC and CHD overall). This build with the Chameleon is my go to for missions with very close encounters (Incursion, Countdown), I'm usually finishing CDs with over 1900M (1.9 billion) damage done. However, for legendary (especially solo) I just cannot get things done quickly with the Chameleon due to its horrible spread and damage drop off and run out of ammo at times. Only St Elmo has proven to be reliable in that situation due to its phenomenal accuracy essentially letting me spray down enemies at sniper ranges. St Elmo would still be my main weapon even if it had no talent/shock rounds, the accuracy and the CHC/CHD values coming from its attachments are enough for me.
The Chameleon was my go-to weapon before St. Elmo came along. The buff on the weapon is great, and it might just surpass the St. Elmo in terms of dmg. But the range on that boy is slightly shorter than the Elmo. Not to mention the ammo count. The 20 extra bullets really makes a big difference before reloading. Sure, you can circumvent that by applying the other buffs to match, but that makes it inconsistent. While i do love my baby chameleon. I have to say that I need to move on. So the St. Elmo takes the win here, in my opinion.
same IMO. picked it up about an hour ago and it's a night and a day difference between this and EB/Chameleon. the shock is so good for door camping enemies and taking down bosses
I feel like TH-camrs are hacking my games everytime I do some weird build a week after someone is posting about it . I’ve been knowing that . I stopped playing with ST Elmo a long time now
I'm using the striker gloves, holster, kneepads and backpack, a vest with Obliterate talent, and the Cayote mask. I'm also using both rifles from time to time, but I feel that the Chameleon kicks more.
@@AnYTimeGaming i hope most recent exotic i got is the backfire while insanely powerful the bleed is deadly hopefully i get st elmo today or sooner or later
Chameleon has the potential (with all buffs active to do more damage But... In the Incursion there's tons of shield rushers. On shield rushers you're going to have a extremely difficult time getting (let alone keeping) the buffs. Then take into account the Chameleon's accuracy is complete ass to anything past 15 yards, and I'll stick to Elmos or FAMAS.
i tested this with a few different variations of my striker builds.... St Elmo still has more output across all variations. I was curious to see though, and it was admittedly only slightly less dmg.
sometime ago i tried using the chameleon and even the backfire with the Striker set but i didnt like the consistency still gringo with the St elmo but It was worth a try
What makes the St. Elmos engine hit hard bugs me because because it has damage talent. Yet most weapons does even the chameleon. I think the talent of the St. Elmo’s is it magazine. Yes magazine
I always use chameleon. It is a indeed a very good weapon. that's how I use it alternate trigger of talent. it does really deal high damage. with a good presense of mind to buffs it is really powerful. I don't even use that in strikers in the past yet it is still good for high dps outputs.
Ahhhhh man I’ve been running Striker for a solid couple months & I’ve ranked up a ton of guns .. Yes Chameleon hits hard when proc’d but bc it’s an smg basically & sounds puny I just don’t find it as fun to use compared to LVOA! Regardless it is a beautiful thing when all talents proc with reload speed feeling like the icing on the cake, but still so many other guns while running striker feel more consistent imo
Try 3 peice on going directive(bp) and 2 true Patriot with Ninja bike bp. After the shock rounds end on st elmos you automatically get the hollow point. And it's never ending. Plus with 3 tp you get 91 in mag of St elmos
Not really. SHD does provide some damage increase but it's not super essential to reach a million damage. Anyone can do a million damage even a 300 SHD player. I'm using striker chest which gives more stacks and helps reach millions of damage.
I'm surprised you didn't mention anything about accuracy, the St. Elmo's is a laser beam while the chameleon has almost SMG-like accuracy and if i'm going to be using something so inaccurate, i'm better off by using an ouroboros or a dark winter that have crit chance as main attributes and can roll dmg to targets out of cover as secondary. The chameleon is only good because of it's talent
The Shock ammo will only last for few secs as you firing the weapon so fast. But with this build You can let the enemies shoot back at you and don't care because that's the whole point of this build. But hey if you like St. Elmo u can use it but damage will be low though.
@@AnYTimeGamingI came here to say this. It’s by far my favorite AR and it’s pretty accurate and stable. I also like the backfire SMG. Might have the most overall damage once you get the 200% crit damage?
@@billyreece4445 Yes Backfire is higher DMG that Stupid thing was reaching close to 3 mil crits on Body which is mental(with group buffs). You can see it on my Backfire Striker build I posted couple of weeks ago :D
Am I the only one who uses the Kingbreaker with my Striker build? I feel that with the full 200 stacks, and the perfect flatline talent, the DPS is almost untouchable. But I haven’t seen any videos of people using it, so I feel that there must be some reason why it’s not popular.
You can get it from anywhere. I would say do a few bounties and you might get it from there as it drops on bounties a lot specially if it's Black Tusk bounty.
@@AnYTimeGamingchameleon when it was introduced what's with Brownie and you get it from a bounty in New York, I think for the guaranteed 1% rng drop. Edit chameleon
I use this exact build with the Chameleon and Fenris (instead of Grupo) Chest with Obliterate, and the numbers (for me) with Fenris are ever-so-slightly better than Grupo. A flat +10% damage to EVERY bullet works out just a tad better than the +15% damage to 3/5ths (60% crit rate) of your total bullets. But long-story-short, this build (with either chest piece) *IS* a hammer, and it *DOES* melt faces in solo content.
Do some Black Tusk Bounties or go to Countdown with AR targeted loot it should drop. If it's an Exotic AR that drops then there's a 33% chance it's going to be Chameleon.
As someone who runs mainly striker builds and loves both the chameleon and the st. Elmo, I can confidently say st. Elmo is better. Yes the damage is lower, but the accuracy is SOOOO much better. You waste half your ammo with the chameleon just because the bloom makes you miss half your damn shots. The chameleon needs to be reworked to be by far the better gun. Instead of having to target different areas to get the buffs, the amount of bullets hit needs to be increased and all 3 perks need to be activated at the same time. The Elmo is better because of the accuracy and cc perk. While I do like the chameleon, I will stick with my Elmo unless the chameleon gets buffed. Also, you can keep the perks active all the time in theory with the chameleon, but in reality I have been screwed over by the game mechanics more than the out of combat effect has benefitted me. It doesn’t work correctly most of the time, at least for me.
I mean this is based on an Outbreak from The Division and it's been carrying on since then. I loved The Division but can't say the same for Division 2. Destiny 2 on the other hand I do like playing a lot. So when I'm not in Divison 2 I'm in Destiny 2. Me and my friends confuse each other by saying D2 and no one knows which one 😄
That's good advice. I also think that Bounties drop it very often especially the Black Tusk bounty and if the area happens to be AR Targeted loot then even better 🙂
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Strikers with st Elmos you have to use a acs 12 to stack up. If its lefty or rock and roll or regular acs 12. But you have to get in their face and put your self in danger because stacking with st Elmos only it takes way too long and by the time you stacked fully you almost rant out of amo. Strikers with chameleon you can keep a distance you don't need to stack with the shotguns, you just need to shoot the legs the torso and head. But really you can ignore the legs all you need is torso and head. As of February 13 2024 my watch level is only 375 and with my strikers and chameleon im hitting nearly 19 million dps 1.7 million crit damage per bullet hit and its not even a god rolled or fully optimized using only chamelon not the lefty or rock and roll to stack up strikers. With the st elmos im hitting around 12 million dps and from 800k to 1 million crit damage per bullet hit when fully stacked also not fully optimized but i have to use lefty or rock and roll to stack up strikers and get all in their face if i want to stack up fast which puts me in danger and we all know strikers is all dps but at the sacrifice of armor. So they both work but have pros and cons.
I am sure you mean the "Lefty" named ACS-12? Two reasons. 1) To build striker stacks in Heroic and Legendary content typically so that you can get the full benefit of the Striker talent with 100 stacks or 200 stacks depending on striker chest piece and backpack combination that will increases your weapon damage either 100% or 200% with your AR. 2) The Lefty comes with the talent Sledgehammer which is used mainly on Chunga's. When you have the Lefty equipped and you throw a grenade (concussion) on a chunga, it substantially increases armor damage on him as well as slows his movement speed down. Read the stats on the talent, it will explain the percentages. This is just a "why do you use it" explanation for you.
Without DMG out of target with this weapon and strikes build without fox prayers isnt so clever build. Of course in close situations is good but an smg like dark winter will do more dmg
Every exotic weapon at TU20 will be able to get whatever attribute you want on the 3rd column. So, You can roll Damage to target out of cover on Chameleon after the update hits :)
I think the St. Elmos is better!! Yes, the Chameleon does nore damage, but the accuracy isn't as good as the St. Elmos!! You can hit those numbers in the range cause the target is not moving!! Not to mention, you have to have the play style to play close for the Chameleon to shine!! The St. Elmos is good at both ranges!! Pick the gun that suits your play style!!
I actually can't stand the chameleon because it should've been an smg not an assualt rifle. I only seen it good for objects that don't move so st elmo's better overall but in some cases yeah chameleon is very powerful.
not necessarily. being at 1000shd helps with some overall damage, but it's mostly the stats that will be the most noticeable difference. so your crit chance and crit dmg will be slightly less if you run identical build and stat spread across armor and weapons just purely due to being under 1000. unless you've purely focused on raising those stats thus far into your journey.
No. You don't need to be at 1000 SHD. yes 1000 SHD increase the DMG but nothing crazy just focus on leveling up SHD when u can otherwise just play normally :)
Who dares reveal my secrets 😂 especially cause pc is so fucked at the moment I haven't been able to even use it for 5 months cause it glitches out can't keep up with the stacks and what not
Let me know If you guys found Ouroboros from Incursion yet or not?
Bruh you know I haven't 🥺
@@fredrickwilliams3605 Lol Still? xD
@@fredrickwilliams3605 Took me 33 runs to get mine drop chance is crazy
I got it 3x . One drop I got it from the love birds and the chest! Of course I gave them away to ppl that didn't have it 🦾
I have the worst luck for weapon drops in this game lol. still no eagle, still no ouroboros, still no ravenous.
only reason i prefer elmos with striker over chameleon is the accuracy at range aswel as mag size and utility as god knows how many times those shock rounds have saved me but chameleon is 1000% slept on great alternative
As I mentioned near the end of the video that this video is not to tell you to use Chameleon instead of St. Elmo's Engine but rather use both and see which one you feel is right for you and as for new players If you don't have St. Elmo's Engine then do try the Chameleon as the Weapon gives more Crit chance than St Elmo's and it will help you set up your build :)
great video, thanks for new players like me. I just have a question, do you have to shoot consecutively to get the buff, no miss, no body/head shot switch, etc ? I never get the buff, I think because the enemies die first or I miss, then the counter is reset.
@@tanayayt9283 You can miss. When you are in combat and fire your weapon you gain stacks which adds up when you hit your target and the stacks vary depends on where you hit your target and the moment you land your 1st shot and gain the stack you have 45secs of the buff and then you have to rebuild it. Don't swap weapons or you lose it. But you can easily build one stack to get one buff and build the other stack and by the time your previous stack expires you have the 2nd buffs this way you can keep atleast one buff at all times.
@@AnYTimeGaming thanks! I'll try again, or maybe I am not that good in accuracy lol
don't under rate the legs buff, you reload the weapon in no time, that means more dps. When i use chamelion i go always for the legs first!
I do the same legs first but I think people will just hit body anyway no matter what :D
Chameleon is a Underrated weapon, because this talent is annoying to stack.
It seems perfect for the heartbreaker and striker sets since both rely on keeping stacks. Or am I missing something?
why is he annoying???
I love it when you can ramp it up. But yeah, it’s such a sleeper
Because you have to shoot different parts of the body, it's good though when u get the buffs
Very underrated
Chameleon is good, but St. Elmo's provides what every striker build needs: Survivability through effects, mainly the shock rounds. If we are talking Raw DPS then most AR's with the Strained Talent will outdps both Chameleon and St Elmo's
thats it. if elmo didnt have shock rounds it wouldnt b near the same
@@cultokHow? Shock rounds sometimes do more harm than good, it's true that they can save your ass but if you shoot a target they'll most likely crouch under the effect and if they're behind a low cover you can't hit them until they uncrouch. The reason why people use it is because it's a police M4 with better capacity, accuracy and a lot of crit chance and crit damage
@@Ananonymousguy-nk9oj yeah it’s a good base weapon but the utility shock rounds is what makes it exotic. The 70 mag is insane tho
@@cultokIt makes it more original but not neccesarily better, if this weapon was bad no one would use it no matter how many shock rounds it had
@@Ananonymousguy-nk9ojyou said it yourself lol .. using st elmo to save my ass
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the tiny damage bump is not worth playing the mini game on the chameleon imo. Also the chameleon offers no crowd control like the st elmos does, which drastically increases it's usefulness in both solo & group content. like crowd control is such an important aspect in this game, that I can't foresee a single reason why I would choose a tiny bit more damage over completely shutting down an enemy for any reason whatsoever.
Everyone has different opinion. Some will take the Chameleon over St. Elmo's Just because they like the way it works. A lot of old players and also some of my friends they just have a Chameleon maxed out on expertise with Striker and use it in all content and I will never bet with someone to make them swap it because I know I will lose :D
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exactly and i think the chameleon is just more fun tbh- nothing wrong with a little diversity from meta@@AnYTimeGaming
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This is a great video because it’s shines light on the chameleon for new players, it is literally the easiest exotic AR to obtain…I get it by accident nowadays💀I got 6 in less than 4 hours from just playing
I recommend some leg shots after body, the reload is insane. You still get body damage and quickly stack the reload. It is damn near an instant reload. Finish up with the head, rinse and repeat. Once you get this rhythm down muscle memory takes over and it is easy to keep them up.
Oh yeah the reload speed is just crazy fast. I mean without that Chameleon reloads at 1.7 secs and then if you add the reload speed on top of it. It becomes the fastest reloading weapon in the game.
I go legs first that makes getting the other stacks much quicker
If you just aim at their ass and hold the trigger down, by the time the mag is done you're on the head.
Ride the recoil -- dont fight it.
@@formdoggie5 That's pretty much how I play it. You have to always make sure your up on the body though.
Bro, tried this build and now is my go to in countdown, was really suprise how good was it with chameleon
Really happy to hear it. When I don't know what weapon to use on a build I Equip Chameleon. But a lot of people miss understands it may be because they don't know how to use it. So, I decided to cover that in this video :)
@AnYTimeGaming thanks alot! Could u make like a healer build but with DPS?
I like your method of presenting your videos, keep it up man.
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you get 20 more bullets per mag with St Elmos as well as getting CC from the electric mags
The easy answer is Chameleon. I don't even need to watch the video to know this 😅 but don't worry I will watch because of you. Keep it up 💪👊
Thank You 🙏
Chameleon is amazing in the hands of a good aimer too
Interesting take. It's definitely has the DPS when buffed however the ability to stop all enemies with a full mag, to do that dmg unimpeded with the shok ammo buff on top of that have a higher base dmg with no need to shoot legs or chest is where the st Elmo's is better. Where chameleon just doesn't have that and have to play shoot the leg/chest)head. (essentially you are playing catch-up for the lack of DPS at the start of combat or when on cooldown) No need to fill 3 bars to get 3 different buffs. Chameleon was a good idea but just isn't a hit due to its burst dmg compared to most other weapons where it's constant/ active more frequently. The nerf to it way back then is what made it a permanent ornament on my wall. Plus you can't beat meta builds easily. Like right now it's St Elmo's and striker with under 1.1 million armour. With coyotes mask. I also would use Picarios holster or foxes prayer kneepads or contractors gloves. (Go off what you reroll/ have st Elmo's sub attribute at. Dmg out of cover is best imo since you are pulling em out of cover or use dmg to armour)
Chameleon range is pretty bad compared to elmos and by the time its powered up the little conflict is over and moving up to the next area.
The stacks you've gained don't disappear, eventually the buff will be going, and if you are killing fast enough you can keep it up for whatever you are doing with ease. You are right about the range though, it plays like an SMG.
striker with chatter box is perfect, you get auto refills no need for ammo pickups you shoot faster and its top 2 reload in the game.
I played with chameleon with my striker build never change i use for years now still there st elmo for my heartbreaker build
Ended up getting St. Elmo's and Chameleon fighting Rogue agents (the NPCs, not DZ) on Heroic tonight, and I actually like Chameleon a lot better than St. Elmo's. I'm glad I found this video so I can run a good Chameleon build as a change of pace instead of running my Vile build constantly
Saw this video a week ago and grinded to get the exact same gear, but later swapped out the Sombra chest piece for a Ceska (Ceska offers better value on CHC and CHD overall). This build with the Chameleon is my go to for missions with very close encounters (Incursion, Countdown), I'm usually finishing CDs with over 1900M (1.9 billion) damage done. However, for legendary (especially solo) I just cannot get things done quickly with the Chameleon due to its horrible spread and damage drop off and run out of ammo at times. Only St Elmo has proven to be reliable in that situation due to its phenomenal accuracy essentially letting me spray down enemies at sniper ranges. St Elmo would still be my main weapon even if it had no talent/shock rounds, the accuracy and the CHC/CHD values coming from its attachments are enough for me.
The Chameleon was my go-to weapon before St. Elmo came along.
The buff on the weapon is great, and it might just surpass the St. Elmo in terms of dmg. But the range on that boy is slightly shorter than the Elmo.
Not to mention the ammo count. The 20 extra bullets really makes a big difference before reloading.
Sure, you can circumvent that by applying the other buffs to match, but that makes it inconsistent.
While i do love my baby chameleon. I have to say that I need to move on. So the St. Elmo takes the win here, in my opinion.
same IMO. picked it up about an hour ago and it's a night and a day difference between this and EB/Chameleon. the shock is so good for door camping enemies and taking down bosses
I feel like TH-camrs are hacking my games everytime I do some weird build a week after someone is posting about it . I’ve been knowing that . I stopped playing with ST Elmo a long time now
hahaha we do get those feeling from time to time :D
@@AnYTimeGaming lol 😂. But that’s good that someone is creative tho
Weird flex dude.
I'm using the striker gloves, holster, kneepads and backpack, a vest with Obliterate talent, and the Cayote mask. I'm also using both rifles from time to time, but I feel that the Chameleon kicks more.
The situation here, It's about range, not damage... but on Wright, it's very usefull...
I enjoy the chameleon so much but i really want the st elmo too just gotta get lucky since my luck is genuine trash
It's alright you'll get it soon. Keep up the grind I'm sending some RNG luck to you Agent :)
@@AnYTimeGaming i hope most recent exotic i got is the backfire while insanely powerful the bleed is deadly hopefully i get st elmo today or sooner or later
Run it with sacrifice, conractors gloves and ninga backpack striker rolled for critdamage or crit chance depending on how you wish to go
Gonna take chameleon from stash . Ty for smart DPS 🔥💪
Chameleon is by far my favorite and most interesting AR, second is Mantis but I love dealing so much damage when utilizing the Decoy.
Great video mate chameleon is pretty badass tbf 👍🏻
Chameleon is my number 1 AR .. it makes you play different. Heavys I shoot legs to proc the reload perk dealing more pressure to drop em faster.
I use Chameleon with dps crit, solid build
iused this build til i got elmo and ouro. i think elmo is better because the perk offers a good utility with the high damage.
Chameleon has the potential (with all buffs active to do more damage
But...
In the Incursion there's tons of shield rushers. On shield rushers you're going to have a extremely difficult time getting (let alone keeping) the buffs.
Then take into account the Chameleon's accuracy is complete ass to anything past 15 yards, and I'll stick to Elmos or FAMAS.
i tested this with a few different variations of my striker builds.... St Elmo still has more output across all variations. I was curious to see though, and it was admittedly only slightly less dmg.
Wait till he trys the bighorn….only downside is mag size but being able to use the range variant seems to make up for it.
That and concussion talent
nice hints there. i'm trying chameleon and is a very nice weapon on this build
Use the apartment. Best gun for the incursion with strikers
sometime ago i tried using the chameleon and even the backfire with the Striker set but i didnt like the consistency
still gringo with the St elmo but It was worth a try
What makes the St. Elmos engine hit hard bugs me because because it has damage talent. Yet most weapons does even the chameleon. I think the talent of the St. Elmo’s is it magazine. Yes magazine
Yes, the long pull is great and the electric shock stops those elites so you can put them down. Not always about DPS.
@@nsu300zx exactly bro the long pull. If we could have the long hit on a police m4 or carbine 7 then that would hit the most
I always use chameleon. It is a indeed a very good weapon. that's how I use it alternate trigger of talent. it does really deal high damage. with a good presense of mind to buffs it is really powerful. I don't even use that in strikers in the past yet it is still good for high dps outputs.
You said to show you the build that can clear legendary content I got you
Ahhhhh man I’ve been running Striker for a solid couple months & I’ve ranked up a ton of guns .. Yes Chameleon hits hard when proc’d but bc it’s an smg basically & sounds puny I just don’t find it as fun to use compared to LVOA! Regardless it is a beautiful thing when all talents proc with reload speed feeling like the icing on the cake, but still so many other guns while running striker feel more consistent imo
Why didn't you highlight the actual dps number for both? And make it so that its a controlled experiment in order to get accurate numbers for both?
Got st. Elmo on my first day back playing the game after a year literally took me 15 mins 😂
Try 3 peice on going directive(bp) and 2 true Patriot with Ninja bike bp. After the shock rounds end on st elmos you automatically get the hollow point. And it's never ending. Plus with 3 tp you get 91 in mag of St elmos
Nice tip thanks 😊
I'll take st elmo's stabilty, 70 mag and 20%chd mod. Also playing on console, its hard to aim constantly on the head with chameleon
That damn Chameleon...always something that it isn't.
Run the oro chameleon and st elmo usually with the rock n roll combo
Very interesting.
Are u doing 1 mill dmg bcus of your shd lvl though?
Not really. SHD does provide some damage increase but it's not super essential to reach a million damage. Anyone can do a million damage even a 300 SHD player. I'm using striker chest which gives more stacks and helps reach millions of damage.
Chameleon is the best AR Exotic 👑 On my Full Crits build I have Chameleon and Cold Relations ☠️💪
I'm surprised you didn't mention anything about accuracy, the St. Elmo's is a laser beam while the chameleon has almost SMG-like accuracy and if i'm going to be using something so inaccurate, i'm better off by using an ouroboros or a dark winter that have crit chance as main attributes and can roll dmg to targets out of cover as secondary. The chameleon is only good because of it's talent
I don't do as well with the chameleon. I think I do better with st. Almo due to it's crowd control. The enemies tend to shoot back.
The Shock ammo will only last for few secs as you firing the weapon so fast. But with this build You can let the enemies shoot back at you and don't care because that's the whole point of this build. But hey if you like St. Elmo u can use it but damage will be low though.
people sleep on the chameleon chameleon is nice👍🏿👌🏿👏🏿👊🏿😎
It's my Favorite AR I always use it plus it's Sexy 😍
@@AnYTimeGamingI came here to say this. It’s by far my favorite AR and it’s pretty accurate and stable. I also like the backfire SMG. Might have the most overall damage once you get the 200% crit damage?
@@billyreece4445 Yes Backfire is higher DMG that Stupid thing was reaching close to 3 mil crits on Body which is mental(with group buffs). You can see it on my Backfire Striker build I posted couple of weeks ago :D
@@AnYTimeGaming I watched that video. That’s where I got my build from! Keep up the good work my man.
Higher damage? Maybe not, more consistency with high damage? St. Elmos is pretty OP unless conditions align
This is only gonna get better in next patch when you can put Damage to target out of cover on the chameleon
I can't wait :D
Handling bro Handling.You understand me😂St.Elmo is best
elmos gets boring
Am I the only one who uses the Kingbreaker with my Striker build? I feel that with the full 200 stacks, and the perfect flatline talent, the DPS is almost untouchable. But I haven’t seen any videos of people using it, so I feel that there must be some reason why it’s not popular.
Was this before or after update?
Is The Chameleon available in Countdown this week as well as from Exotic caches?
You can get it from anywhere. I would say do a few bounties and you might get it from there as it drops on bounties a lot specially if it's Black Tusk bounty.
@@AnYTimeGaming Thanks Very Much. I Will Keep At It
@@AnYTimeGamingchameleon when it was introduced what's with Brownie and you get it from a bounty in New York, I think for the guaranteed 1% rng drop.
Edit chameleon
This is all very true...but the Elmos accuracy and range is un match, thats what makes it so great.
chameleon is fun :) elmos gets a lil boring
@ecoman351 I get it...but the Elmo is unmatched in game play. But I think all meta anything can get a little boring.
I use this exact build with the Chameleon and Fenris (instead of Grupo) Chest with Obliterate, and the numbers (for me) with Fenris are ever-so-slightly better than Grupo. A flat +10% damage to EVERY bullet works out just a tad better than the +15% damage to 3/5ths (60% crit rate) of your total bullets. But long-story-short, this build (with either chest piece) *IS* a hammer, and it *DOES* melt faces in solo content.
Try this at 25+ meters...closer to the average distance of engagement.
Ugh I can't get The chameleon to drop..have someone drop one n someone snatched it up...ugh ...
Do some Black Tusk Bounties or go to Countdown with AR targeted loot it should drop. If it's an Exotic AR that drops then there's a 33% chance it's going to be Chameleon.
Can someone tell me how to get the st Elmo
Go to Countdown
As someone who runs mainly striker builds and loves both the chameleon and the st. Elmo, I can confidently say st. Elmo is better. Yes the damage is lower, but the accuracy is SOOOO much better. You waste half your ammo with the chameleon just because the bloom makes you miss half your damn shots. The chameleon needs to be reworked to be by far the better gun. Instead of having to target different areas to get the buffs, the amount of bullets hit needs to be increased and all 3 perks need to be activated at the same time. The Elmo is better because of the accuracy and cc perk. While I do like the chameleon, I will stick with my Elmo unless the chameleon gets buffed. Also, you can keep the perks active all the time in theory with the chameleon, but in reality I have been screwed over by the game mechanics more than the out of combat effect has benefitted me. It doesn’t work correctly most of the time, at least for me.
Dudes either never seen Sesame Street, or never heard of Texas
Returning player here, this game reminds me of a mix of fortnite save the world, destiny 2, and rainbow six siege, but in a good way.
I mean this is based on an Outbreak from The Division and it's been carrying on since then. I loved The Division but can't say the same for Division 2. Destiny 2 on the other hand I do like playing a lot. So when I'm not in Divison 2 I'm in Destiny 2. Me and my friends confuse each other by saying D2 and no one knows which one 😄
It also helps to have 5k shd.. all these builds are no good with low shd
I don’t recommend countdown, I highly suggest a mission with the weapon you’re looking for it’s way faster. I suggest you aim for legs THEN body. 🔥
That's good advice. I also think that Bounties drop it very often especially the Black Tusk bounty and if the area happens to be AR Targeted loot then even better 🙂
Bro I didn't see your Profile pic when I was replying to you. Xiao is one of my favorite I'm hoping to get him in the upcoming Lantern rite wish me luck :)
@@AnYTimeGaming I DO wish you luck, I got hu Tao on my first 10 pull, but xai made the game go from veteran to easy difficulty at C0.
Can you make video about chameleon after the patch?
Use the volatile backpack and it's even more damage
Strikers with st Elmos you have to use a acs 12 to stack up. If its lefty or rock and roll or regular acs 12. But you have to get in their face and put your self in danger because stacking with st Elmos only it takes way too long and by the time you stacked fully you almost rant out of amo. Strikers with chameleon you can keep a distance you don't need to stack with the shotguns, you just need to shoot the legs the torso and head. But really you can ignore the legs all you need is torso and head. As of February 13 2024 my watch level is only 375 and with my strikers and chameleon im hitting nearly 19 million dps 1.7 million crit damage per bullet hit and its not even a god rolled or fully optimized using only chamelon not the lefty or rock and roll to stack up strikers. With the st elmos im hitting around 12 million dps and from 800k to 1 million crit damage per bullet hit when fully stacked also not fully optimized but i have to use lefty or rock and roll to stack up strikers and get all in their face if i want to stack up fast which puts me in danger and we all know strikers is all dps but at the sacrifice of armor. So they both work but have pros and cons.
Is there a reason almost everyone I see use this build has the named ACS-12 'Lucky'?
I am sure you mean the "Lefty" named ACS-12? Two reasons. 1) To build striker stacks in Heroic and Legendary content typically so that you can get the full benefit of the Striker talent with 100 stacks or 200 stacks depending on striker chest piece and backpack combination that will increases your weapon damage either 100% or 200% with your AR. 2) The Lefty comes with the talent Sledgehammer which is used mainly on Chunga's. When you have the Lefty equipped and you throw a grenade (concussion) on a chunga, it substantially increases armor damage on him as well as slows his movement speed down. Read the stats on the talent, it will explain the percentages. This is just a "why do you use it" explanation for you.
@@extrmeS4 I did mean Lefty. Thank you for the explanation.
You welcome bud.@@rutrohscoob
Without DMG out of target with this weapon and strikes build without fox prayers isnt so clever build. Of course in close situations is good but an smg like dark winter will do more dmg
Every exotic weapon at TU20 will be able to get whatever attribute you want on the 3rd column. So, You can roll Damage to target out of cover on Chameleon after the update hits :)
Chameleon is literally one of the best ar the only downside is the range of the weapon
well then watch the video! lol GG bud, GG =)
I’ve done the love birds 10 times and still no Ouroboros 😡
Sorry for my English. They worry a lot about damage and in the end in pve everything serves to kill
When it comes to group Content as a DPS you should only Focus on DMG. But I do like to have different opinion from time to time :)
I’m using striker with both guns same build I’m getting 3.6 million from both
You forget that the time you spent to proc it, you already made the same or greater dmg using another weapon.
proc takes like no time at all with the rate of fire and reload
I think the St. Elmos is better!! Yes, the Chameleon does nore damage, but the accuracy isn't as good as the St. Elmos!! You can hit those numbers in the range cause the target is not moving!! Not to mention, you have to have the play style to play close for the Chameleon to shine!! The St. Elmos is good at both ranges!! Pick the gun that suits your play style!!
I actually can't stand the chameleon because it should've been an smg not an assualt rifle. I only seen it good for objects that don't move so st elmo's better overall but in some cases yeah chameleon is very powerful.
do I need to have my shd level over a thousand to hit this hard? I'm at 624
not necessarily. being at 1000shd helps with some overall damage, but it's mostly the stats that will be the most noticeable difference. so your crit chance and crit dmg will be slightly less if you run identical build and stat spread across armor and weapons just purely due to being under 1000. unless you've purely focused on raising those stats thus far into your journey.
No. You don't need to be at 1000 SHD. yes 1000 SHD increase the DMG but nothing crazy just focus on leveling up SHD when u can otherwise just play normally :)
I have striker build focused on crit and crit chance, weapon damage. I’m still hitting at like 340,000
@@AnYTimeGaming Thankful i was around for the manhunt farm glitch a little while back before they started issuing bans for it XD
@@junytroche are they all maxed out stats (besides mods) as seen in the video?
Who dares reveal my secrets 😂 especially cause pc is so fucked at the moment I haven't been able to even use it for 5 months cause it glitches out can't keep up with the stacks and what not
Chameleon max everything is ultimate Brrr at 1.3mill per shot 😂so much fun
If you have chameleon blueprint you can keep re-rolling it until you get Damage out of cover but it's a lot of work
Since when? The 3rd attribute is fixed on old exotics
Chameleon basically is not assault rifle. It is a smg
But without crit chance as main attribute and fires slower than a vector
Oreo over all
I use the bighorn.
STRIKER ST ELMOS
STRIKER ST ELMOS
STRIKER ST ELMOS
👍🏽😅😅😅😅
i prefer my eagle bearer
Or instead of 2 true patriot use 2 striker
bighorn batter than
Chameleon terrible at range st.elmo is a laser beam that’s the difference
Well in that case I call dibs on Carbine 7 with strained talent on it 🙂
Highest accuracy AR is St. Elmo's..Hands down
Best AR is it .. Chameleon should be an SMG, accuracy & range sucks like an SMG
so get closer:) chameleon is fun
Eagle slaps both