This is one of the most exalted, praised and loved experts of the wrongful conviction movement. Anyone sending their hard earned money to the “Innocence Project” either hasn’t done their due diligence or is a fool.
Her testimony on the Hennis case is truly pathetic. Her refusal to give a simple answer makes her look so shady. I do not think her expressions and looking at the jury is accomplishing what she thinks it is. Good lord Weinstein and Sandusky, eww
Memory expert:”I don’t recall.“ This lady’s entire fortune and fame and reputation is based on her promoting a theory that came out during the McMartin scandal where it was used the very first time, that of the argument between repressed versus false memories. And she has used it to great effect to become wealthy and famous and have a very nice academic position at a UC university. She is gaming the whole interview here always replying with equivocals and never committing to her opinion or even her own memory of what she has said and done. She’s pathetic. It would be too damaging for her to admit that she was dead wrong on the case, derided the witnesses who in the end had a strong testimony against the defendant, and made a lot of money and a reputation off of it. How could she admit it?
Her husband and her originally dreamed up the False Memory Syndrome in their own defense when their daughter made allegations of most serious nature against them. However, as you said it was the1st time it was used in such a public trial.
Memory can be fallible, yes...but this "expert" is fallible in her twisting things for defense only. An impartial expert would have credits on every side, throughout that lengthy history. Hard to have 40 years of every case being false memrories.
Yes, and I'm glad I came to look it up! Worth every minute of my time! I can't figure out why Troconis defense team thought bringing her was a good idea.
Defense made a mis-step by having her speak to memory in general. She would've been more useful if they would've had her do a witness by witness overview.
In a way the prosecution is proving her theory Re memory- the fact she can’t remember, has varying memories of things she’s previously said etc just alludes to her theory that memory is unreliable. It’s ironic really.
@@Truth1561 I think she supports the prosecution. She remembers what’s important to her, her rankings and awards. But the rest is noise to her. All these prosecution witnesses remember something that was important and memorable to them. She is doing the same thing. They just have different priorities.
I can wait till Robert Durst testify that’s gonna be a good one especially the prosecutor and the lawyer going at each other I’m sorry but that is priceless can’t wait to wait
me 3! i hope he does testify bc clearly HIS memory is not remembering all the lies he's told along the way. Case in point: when the defense starts to read his writings to the court, he stands up and says "I didn't write that!" lol
@@ministryoflies..3651 yes lol- tbh I thought he would be either too ill or uncontrollable . Well he is being pretty uncontrollable even in his frailty- that in itself is useful for the jury to see!
Without a dna test anything’s possible- she did say she might consider taking a case where a family member was a victim as she didn’t know it would be unethical
Dr Loftus is a geniune expert. The prosecutor is badgering to undermine credibility. Notice how little the actual memory evidence in the case is being discussed here.
Enough is enough. Mr. Lewin needs to be found in contempt an forced to talk to a shrink. Maybe meds will settle him down. His team needs to replace him when it comes to the cross examination of Mr. Durst. He's going to lose the jury an case if he doesn't stop. His demeanor in the court room is unacceptable. Replace him before it's too late !!!!
“Your honor there needs to be a consistency in the rules!” Did you hear him say that after Chesnoff’s comment? Then he proceeds to break the same rules!🤨
I was watching this yesterday the way she looked at that guy at the prosecutor of course he said she wanted to kick his butt she was rolled her eyes at him
From Wikipedia: Elizabeth F. Loftus FRSE (born Elizabeth Fishman October 16, 1944)[2][3][4] is an American cognitive psychologist and expert on human memory. She has conducted research on the malleability of human memory. Loftus is best known for her work on the misinformation effect and eyewitness memory,[5] 🙄
The prosecutor's office needs to put up a better lawyer (I assume it's the prosecution). This witness is awful but the lawyer questioning her is fumbling and disorganized. It seems like the judge is having to remind him of basic procedures & tell him to calm down and "breathe". Looks bad.
@@aimee265 It's my first time seeing or hearing of him. He might be brilliant. All I can go on is what I was looking at here until I had to get back to my chores.
@@TrudyConway I can see why you’d think that only seeing him briefly… he is fantastic & passionate about justice … especially when someone that got away with murder & remained free to murder 2 more ! He has to be tough against defense attorneys like these who are well known for being backhanded & sneaky… getting some really bad defendants off! Good luck on getting chores done !😊
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Totally agree with you! Lewin is awful. Why is he berating her? She didn't want to be recorded for another reason; having to "remember" every word later on. She is not on trial. Who would want to be recorded by this guy? Not me. Durst not getting tried for Berman murder but, everything else but the kitchen sink.
Totally agree. It’s too much - he’s actually just arguing against the American legal system, not really impeaching her. Defendants require defence, which includes expert witnesses. If nobody agreed to interrogate the validity of witness testimony convictions would not be solid. It can be simultaneously true that Ted Bundy et al are heinous criminals AND true that a witness’s memory has been manipulated and shouldn’t be relied on. The fact that the richer you are the better an expert you can afford is the fault of the American legal system, not Dr Loftus.
I totally agree. Also, the fact that DNA later proved Tim Hennis' guilt doesn't mean that the photo six pack shown to the eyewitness, plus the police's interview techniques weren't unduly suggestive. One doesn't flow from the other. And Lewintakes too long to make the point. Beating a dead horse.
Even if I strongly agree with lawyer point of view, it's still disgusting how manipulative and violent he is in this hearing. Attacking person self-esteem and suggesting that is immoral in order to pressure other person to agree with you is disgusting, even if necessary in court. I don't believe that the ends justify the means.
Violent? More buzzwords. She was a high profile, high paid witness and didn't remember key facts important to the case. He pressured her because she's a witness in bad faith. I pray you're never on a jury because you clearly put emotions over facts.
This is one of the most exalted, praised and loved experts of the wrongful conviction movement. Anyone sending their hard earned money to the “Innocence Project” either hasn’t done their due diligence or is a fool.
This woman is so self-absorbed it's mortifying. To think our future generation is being taught by this woman is frightful.
The point on a memory expert not wanting to be recorded was priceless!!!!!! My favorite part! Such a great point.
I feel Mr Lewin may have finished her professional witnesses career.
Good she has lied and looks like she was a deer in the headlights look and looks like she is about to cry when she is caught in her lies.
Lawyer did a great job. Doctor is not being truthful .Very obvious. Dr. looks to be very incompetent.
She’s a memory expert in everything but hers.
Seems like she's conveniently having her expert memory fail her. Dr. BS....
This so called doctor is pathetic, ‘I don’t recall’ every answer to Lewin’s questions. Hired gun @ $700/hour. Lewin DESTROYED her 🔥
Alternate title: a liar with big eyes being called out as a liar over and over.
lol.. true ^^
she is a horrible person
He keeps calling her mam to break down her ego 😹 brilliant!!!
Her testimony on the Hennis case is truly pathetic. Her refusal to give a simple answer makes her look so shady. I do not think her expressions and looking at the jury is accomplishing what she thinks it is. Good lord Weinstein and Sandusky, eww
These cross exams of Dr. Loftus have done a wonderful job in highlighting that science today is nothing but the religion of scientism.
Prosecutor rock!!! This woman is disgusting unbelievable …. Unbiased- yeah right!!!! money 💰 talks
Memory expert:”I don’t recall.“ This lady’s entire fortune and fame and reputation is based on her promoting a theory that came out during the McMartin scandal where it was used the very first time, that of the argument between repressed versus false memories. And she has used it to great effect to become wealthy and famous and have a very nice academic position at a UC university. She is gaming the whole interview here always replying with equivocals and never committing to her opinion or even her own memory of what she has said and done. She’s pathetic. It would be too damaging for her to admit that she was dead wrong on the case, derided the witnesses who in the end had a strong testimony against the defendant, and made a lot of money and a reputation off of it. How could she admit it?
Her husband and her originally dreamed up the False Memory Syndrome in their own defense when their daughter made allegations of most serious nature against them. However, as you said it was the1st time it was used in such a public trial.
This witness = NO CREDIBILITY
soon as i learned she's one of those "false memory" nutjobs, she lost all respect from me as any kind of "expert"
Yes she sat on the board of the False Memory Sydrome Foundation for years.
Memory can be fallible, yes...but this "expert" is fallible in her twisting things for defense only. An impartial expert would have credits on every side, throughout that lengthy history. Hard to have 40 years of every case being false memrories.
Don't forget Timothy McVeigh (the Oklahoma bombers) Angelo buono jr (one of the hillside stranglers ) O J Simpson, among others
@@ezeddiev And she makes a Freudian slip Saint Timothy McVeigh lol😊
Anyone come here from the Troconis case? 😄
Yes, and I'm glad I came to look it up! Worth every minute of my time! I can't figure out why Troconis defense team thought bringing her was a good idea.
her stares creep me out
Loftus is awful
Defense made a mis-step by having her speak to memory in general. She would've been more useful if they would've had her do a witness by witness overview.
This woman is infuriating!
A memory expert who doesn’t recall anything.haha
In a way the prosecution is proving her theory Re memory- the fact she can’t remember, has varying memories of things she’s previously said etc just alludes to her theory that memory is unreliable. It’s ironic really.
Wouldnt that just illustrate her point though?
@@Truth1561 I think she supports the prosecution. She remembers what’s important to her, her rankings and awards. But the rest is noise to her.
All these prosecution witnesses remember something that was important and memorable to them. She is doing the same thing. They just have different priorities.
The fact she couldn't remember important facts but was dead against being taped recorded speaks volumes
I can wait till Robert Durst testify that’s gonna be a good one especially the prosecutor and the lawyer going at each other I’m sorry but that is priceless can’t wait to wait
I don’t think he will testify.
me 3! i hope he does testify bc clearly HIS memory is not remembering all the lies he's told along the way. Case in point: when the defense starts to read his writings to the court, he stands up and says "I didn't write that!" lol
@@Truth1561 you were wrong..
@@ministryoflies..3651 yes lol- tbh I thought he would be either too ill or uncontrollable . Well he is being pretty uncontrollable even in his frailty- that in itself is useful for the jury to see!
Prince Andrew to employ Ghislaine Maxwell’s failed ‘False Memory Syndrome’ Defence & CIA Psychologist Elizabeth Loftus - Fiona Barnett
Maybe everything she thinks she remembered is false...lol
Do anyone know is she related to Robert durst
No she isn’t. It would have been brought up due to bias.
Without a dna test anything’s possible- she did say she might consider taking a case where a family member was a victim as she didn’t know it would be unethical
He wiped the floor with her!!!
Finally, this wittnes has an not good history in her career!
Lewin commenting that’s there needs to be a consistency in the rules, pot calling the kettle!
Dana Carey needs to find another job.
Dr Loftus is a geniune expert. The prosecutor is badgering to undermine credibility. Notice how little the actual memory evidence in the case is being discussed here.
She's an establishment hack and has been since the 90's. Expert gatekeeper, indeed.
That's the whole point, show she's not credible and her evidence is questioned and not taken seriously. He wasn't badgering her, he was pressing her.
Enough is enough. Mr. Lewin needs to be found in contempt an forced to talk to a shrink. Maybe meds will settle him down. His team needs to replace him when it comes to the cross examination of Mr. Durst. He's going to lose the jury an case if he doesn't stop. His demeanor in the court room is unacceptable. Replace him before it's too late !!!!
Totally agree. The way he yells out his objections is inappropriate.
“Your honor there needs to be a consistency in the rules!” Did you hear him say that after Chesnoff’s comment? Then he proceeds to break the same rules!🤨
I agree. Lewin is ridiculous
🤣🤣🤣🤣 Clearly, the jurors think you are all idiots.
I was watching this yesterday the way she looked at that guy at the prosecutor of course he said she wanted to kick his butt she was rolled her eyes at him
From Wikipedia:
Elizabeth F. Loftus FRSE (born Elizabeth Fishman October 16, 1944)[2][3][4] is an American cognitive psychologist and expert on human memory. She has conducted research on the malleability of human memory. Loftus is best known for her work on the misinformation effect and eyewitness memory,[5] 🙄
waste of education
The prosecutor's office needs to put up a better lawyer (I assume it's the prosecution). This witness is awful but the lawyer questioning her is fumbling and disorganized. It seems like the judge is having to remind him of basic procedures & tell him to calm down and "breathe". Looks bad.
John Lewin is one of the best prosecutors in la. Without a doubt, the best cold case prosecutor. He’s far from fumbling.
He is brilliant
@@aimee265 It's my first time seeing or hearing of him. He might be brilliant. All I can go on is what I was looking at here until I had to get back to my chores.
@@TrudyConway I can see why you’d think that only seeing him briefly… he is fantastic & passionate about justice … especially when someone that got away with murder & remained free to murder 2 more ! He has to be tough against defense attorneys like these who are well known for being backhanded & sneaky… getting some really bad defendants off! Good luck on getting chores done !😊
His questions seem clunky and poorly strung together.
This judge is unprofessional and making a mockery out of justice for the 3 people murdered. I’ve watched a lot of trials and he is the worse
Badgering a little Mr. Prosecutor.
Lewin is so mean, rude and condescending. He is an AH to speak to her in this manner with SUCH an attitude. How on earth is this judge allowing this?
How is this relevant at all ???
You seriously don’t understand how the credibility, motive & ethics of an expert witness is relevant to a case????
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Lewin was disrespectful , condescending . and rude ...does not play well with the jury .
I agree, but I do hate this woman for other reasons, not least her statements about SRA victims. However, she is not on trial but you wouldn’t know it
Totally agree with you! Lewin is awful. Why is he berating her? She didn't want to be recorded for another reason; having to "remember" every word later on. She is not on trial. Who would want to be recorded by this guy? Not me. Durst not getting tried for Berman murder but, everything else but the kitchen sink.
Totally agree. It’s too much - he’s actually just arguing against the American legal system, not really impeaching her. Defendants require defence, which includes expert witnesses. If nobody agreed to interrogate the validity of witness testimony convictions would not be solid. It can be simultaneously true that Ted Bundy et al are heinous criminals AND true that a witness’s memory has been manipulated and shouldn’t be relied on.
The fact that the richer you are the better an expert you can afford is the fault of the American legal system, not Dr Loftus.
I totally agree. Also, the fact that DNA later proved Tim Hennis' guilt doesn't mean that the photo six pack shown to the eyewitness, plus the police's interview techniques weren't unduly suggestive. One doesn't flow from the other. And Lewintakes too long to make the point. Beating a dead horse.
Bollocks they love him
Even if I strongly agree with lawyer point of view, it's still disgusting how manipulative and violent he is in this hearing.
Attacking person self-esteem and suggesting that is immoral in order to pressure other person to agree with you is disgusting, even if necessary in court.
I don't believe that the ends justify the means.
Violent? More buzzwords. She was a high profile, high paid witness and didn't remember key facts important to the case. He pressured her because she's a witness in bad faith. I pray you're never on a jury because you clearly put emotions over facts.
Lewin is a complete loon lol