So the reason the matchup was shelved until now is that at the time they were working on it, they realized they had nowhere near the resources to make it a good episode. By the time they did, the two franchises had pretty much fallen into obscurity, so they didn't know if the matchup was even warranted anymore. It winning the Champion's Poll told them it was.
The whole 'franchise fallen into obscurity' I find as odd. Prototype I could understand as it never being that hugely popular when it came out and with people comparing it to the company's Hulk video games. But Infamous, obscure? The Infamous games were some of the flagship titles in the PS3's library. Both games were up there with the Uncharted series in making the console a system seller. Even though the series hasn't received a new entry since the launch of the PS4, it's still referenced to this day (there are two within God of War Ragnarok). It'll be like calling Sly Cooper and Jax and Daxter obscure.
I don’t know if it was necessarily the team’s call there’s a whole ladder to this thing and budgets that have to be approved by people that probably have no idea about TH-cam or video games
Yes. Both these games were pretty popular back in the late 2000's due to them being superhero open world sandbox games, both coming out in 2009 . They were always compared together. Dont blame you for not knowing them. They both ended pretty quickly and havent been relevant in over a decade. The last Infamous game came out in 2014 and the last Prototype was 2012
Which is honestly a shame. While they did both run their course in terms of story beyond a shadow of a doubt, it's the electricity powers, the sentient virus powers that still have me going back to play both years later. I think if Sucker Punch and Radical could find a way to continue to use those powers, someway - even if it's just a remake, with extra abilities added and a bit more freedom with said powers - they could easily continue both series. Or at the very least they'd have me there day one. There's very few things as cathartic as just giving a random passerby a casual zap to the face and watching him go down after you get pinged out of the sky by a bullet when you're busy trying to collect a Blast Shard.
Honestly, given the anti-hero climate of stuff nowadays, it would work well. Alot of contemporary social commentary could be made, especially with what Infamous Second Son had and similar with Prototype.
2:18 Well, the line about the script being shelved was just a joke in the episode/ an “in-universe” reason for why it’s taken so long. The actual reason it took so long was because, back when this matchup was very popular, the team couldn’t really do it back then because of how small the team was. And when it was big enough to possibly do it, they thought the matchup was irrelevant and no one wanted it, which very much wasn’t the case
It's funny that you compare Cole to the Avatar because there's another conduit in Infamous Second Son who has the power to obtain other people's powers. The people don't lose their powers, but Delsin (the main character of the game) learns how to use their powers.
To add to that: seen some folks say that the element that Delsin absorbs for his powers is the element that makes Conduits. Hence the reason why he’s the only one to break the machines that use that element and get stronger from absorbing it. Plus the reason why he even gains memories of new abilities that the person he absorbed had to learn over the years. Which is crazy in its own right.
@anthropyrequien6227 In a way yeah. Like folks say he’s like the Second Coming of the Beast in a sense due to him being ability to gain new abilities and unlocking the skills of those abilities with enough energy. Of course gameplay mechanics and lore wise he’s limited to the supply of energy for the powers he’s currently using and has to resupply to continue using the offensive abilities of it. So in a sense his element is Conduits themselves and specifically pure breeds of Conduits since he can only absorb the rock enemies’ rocks once he gets the original rock powers from the main antagonist.
In this battle it really did boil down to Cole's raw power overcoming Alex's regen while also being able to resist the virus. Speed really didn't play much of a factor. And yeah if they chose Evil Cole (the games' Karma system leads to different endings) It would have been an outright stomp, Cole's own immense power, paired with Nix's napalm based powers and enhanced with the Beast's obnoxious list of abilities makes him absolutely terrifying. John (the Beast's name prior to his transformation) gives Cole all of his powers which includes: Telepathy Pyrokinesis Ray field blast Ergokinesis Teleportation Singularity Regeneration Transmutation Shapeshifting Size manipulation Weather manipulation Matter manipulation Gravity manipulation Radiation absorption Radiation manipulation Power amplification Power nullification Power bestowal Power transference They had to choose Good Cole for this fight to be even remotely close.
My wife is now chanting "Bio Leech" at me, since I thought Alex would win. She played InFamous (PlayStation), I played Prototype (PC). I'm not disappointed though. My dream superpowers have always been Electricity and Fire.
The thing that I find to be weird is their insistence that Cole surviving the Ray Sphere's atomic explosion but the Ray Sphere isn't harmful to anyone with the conduit gene because all it does is awaken the dormant conduit's powers at the expense of everyone else's lives.
@@macwarrenconnorCole is shown in the first game to still be banged up from the explosion the ray sphere caused. Plus at the end of the game Kessler himself says he wasn't sure if Cole would survive the blast and even checked his pulse to make sure he's alive. So while it's made to produce conduits, the chances of it happening is still really dangerous and they could still die if they aren't durable enough
I played these games back in the day. Cole only got ice powers halfway in the 2nd game because of a device in the game that allowed Cole to absorbed some powers from another conduit(basically a person with powers). If you go in the dark path, you get flame powers instead. There was a 3rd Infamous game set years later with a different main character. He's meant to be a power sponge because he ended up getting smoke, neon, video, and concrete powers. Alex going full on villain in the 2nd game was controversial. The 1st game ended with him becoming sort of more heroic and saving NYC from a nuke while being in disgust of real Alex Mercer who tried to kill everyone by unleashing the virus. Then the 2nd game came around and was suddenly a villain. The 2nd game had another guy as the main character to kill Alex. The tie-in comic at least tried to explain why Alex changed but it wasn't explained in the game itself.
Yeah I hated that change in the second game myself. Like Heller was cool but I always wanted there to be some sort of twist reveal that there were actually multiple Alex's. Like after the nuke blast there was another puddle of him somewhere out there that also regrew and that one became the good Alex. my main motivator for wanting this other than wanting to see Alex's the protagonist again was to finally have Alex and Pariah meet since it's heavily hinted in the first game that Pariah would have eventually become a major boss battle given that he's essentially the natural version of what Alex Mercer became artificially
Duck, having followed you since your first channel, I'm still not surprised you haven't heard of either game. I'm more surprised if you *have* heard of something.
Seriously, Duck's a nice guy but it feels like he's lived under a rock until only a few years ago. Honestly I wouldn't be surprised if Duck said he'd never heard of Star Wars.
"They feel like games that came out in the 90s." pfft... Dude, games from the 90s wish they could look this good. For retrospect, both games first came out in 2009 a few years after video games went HD
Duck, you need a refresher on physics. The reason why nuclear bombs have such high yields despite their small size is because a little bit of mass becomes a lot of energy when you factor in the relationship with the speed of light squared. E = mc^2 is one of the most important equations in science, never forget it.
Wow, that's actually insane you were an easter egg/cameo in Bill vs. Discord, congrats! But yeah, from what I can understand, this has always been a popular matchup for over a decade. Since both Infamous and Prototype came out in the same year(2009), similar story concepts, and both are sandbox games. I remember that they did once want Alex to fight Carnage, but settled on Cole for the as-mentioned similarities Overall, I agree with the outcome for the most part. It was a very cool fight, and I'm extremely happy for the fans of both franchises to finally get their desired matchup realized into a DB... Still wished Kratos vs. Asura won, but who knows, with that matchup being the runner-up for the 3d poll, and how split everyone is on who would win. Maybe it'll happen next season or eventually Also, Devilartemis didn't animate this one, but he is animating Frieza vs. Megatron which will be his first Blender animation for Death Battle which I'm certainly excited for. Heard the outcome is very dependent on which version of Megatron they use, but I'm just excited to see the fight no matter who wins. I can't wait for that episode along with your reaction to it, awesome reaction as always, congrats on breaking your losing streak
@@theduckgoesmooDeath Battle usually gets the Teamfourstar voices of Dragon Ball characters. Vegeta got Lanipator in his episode and Gogeta vs Vegito, Trunks got Kaiserneko in his xeno self vs Archie Silver, so i fully expect his voice in Teamfourstar to reprise him. Devilartemis is also a possibility, as he does a good Frieza impression.
Fun fact: Prototpe 1 was made in the same engine as an incredible hulk game Mercer was gonna die cuz the company he was working on the virus for tried to shut down the project and kill everone working on it, Mercer took a sample of it as insurance for his safety, it didnt work and he smashed it before dying My fav thing to do in the game is equip the shield and run up the sidewalks and watch the floppy ragdolls. The song [inHuman] is another vocal bop combining both the games titles of [Prototype] and inFamous The next fight is gonna Devilartemis' first DB blender fight
Huh, no wonder Prototype felt really familiar, I actually played Hulk Ultimate Destruction and it feels a lot like prototype, especially when you play with a banner skin and it feels like your character is a lot smaller then there supposed to be.
4:37 The equation they bring up, E = mc^2, basically translates to Energy = mass x speed of light^2, and is an equation that Albert Einstein proposed based on his theory of relativity, basically explaining how a small amount of mass can become a massive amount of energy. It's an equation that can be used to explain the energy released in an atomic bomb, though he himself never helped build it.
1. Its almost too fitting that this whole battle basically one between a superhero and a supervillain 2. The saddest part is that if Alex had met someone like Cole, he might have been able to work past his own nihilism.
Duck; my wife, brother, and I had an unofficial blind bet on this fight when they announced it at the end of last season. My wife went InFamous, my brother and I went Prototype. She now is chanting "Bio Leech" repeatedly ended by "Love you". I bought her both Prototype games in response.
Yeah ever since both inFamous and Prototype released their first two games only two weeks apart people started drawing comparisons and after just beating Prototype 1 I can see why. Even after inFamous and Prototype disappeared in the early to mid 2010’s and these two characters become irrelevant that never mattered as it was still a HIGHLY requested matchup for years. It’s a matchup that was always special and passionate for so many people. And speaking personally I LOVE the inFamous series, I’ve played all the games on PS3 and PS4 I even went ahead and read the inFamous comic in preparation for this Death Battle. And since I played every game Cole in Death Battle has always been a dream for me and after seeing it and watching Cole win I was really happy.
"Why is it the speed of light squared?" Because they're calculating the energy output that the mass of that round would have if it were spontaneously converted entirely to energy. That's what E=MCsquared IS. The potential energy output (E) of any given hunk of matter is equal (=) to its mass (M) times the speed of light (C) squared.
Cole MacGrath and the inFAMOUS games were my jam back on the ps3 and i'm so glad they went with "good" Cole and not "evil" Cole for this. it coulda ended up an edgelord vs edgelord fight but instead they actually have clashing ideolagies. the fact sony hasn't rereleased inFAMOUS 1 and 2 is a crime.
Infamous 2 is my top 10 best games ever. Of all time. The platforming is great, the combat is awesome and the story is ACTUALLY NOT CRAP. Your choices between good and evil actually matter to the ending, to what missions you could get and what powers you could use. Half as long, twice as bright, mother f'ers. As for Prototype 1, I still play it. It's a great way to blow off some steam. It's like going Rip and Tear before the new Doom came along. Excellent platforming, great fluid combat, and there's a story too I think. Didn't pay much attention, too busy ripping heads off at mach 1.
Never heard of either of these characters, let alone their games, so you’re not alone there. Probably because I wasn’t aloud to have these kind of games. Right before the battle started I changed my choice last second and lost lol
I've never heard of the Characters, but have heard of the Games they're from. I just was never interested in the Games and I guess I missed out on some good shit.
the Karmic Overload was mentioned and explained in Cole's analysis long before he used it and the Bio-Leech to win the animation, so i'm not sure why the kill would be considered a spoiler lol still looking forward to the day you get one right for actual right reasons haha, it's still fun to watch, the streak of that is just so long that i feel like it'll be cause for celebration once we get there
Funny story about infamous, at the end of 2 with the good ending you’d think that All conduits die, then Second Son comes out. You’d think Second Son continues the evil path where conduits are saved and most people died. Nope! The good ending apparently killed most, but not all, conduits instead. So Second Son still happened even after Coles sacrifice.
Want your mind blown further? The bay movies aren't even the first transformers movies. The first one was animate and was a canonical must watch so you're not lost as to why certain characters weren't there at the start of seadon 3.
The song is called inhuman by Brandon Yates Omega spark and I forgot one other singer but it's a really good song. The lyric basically go with the characteristics of Cole macgrath and Alex Mercer
04:32 That's what the E = mc2 equation means. Energy = Mass x speed of light squared. Technically a lot of energy is contained in the structure of everything but can't be fully converted back into energy. Think about the principles of nuclear weapons and apply similarities here.
When you say null factor, that’s how the community talks. When two characters have something, it cancels out so to speak. It’s about differences, positives and negatives, so equals cancel Also, for death battles, this is up there with Mario and Sonic. It’s one of THE most wanted along with Galactus vs Unicron and Ash Ketchum vs Yugi Moto (anime version).
Ever since it was announced, it's been a very mixed bag of reactions. The big takeaway is that Frieza should stomp, but if they use a specific version of Megatron, the IDW version then Megatron would stomp. I don't know if how strong manga Frieza is now plays any factor in the latter point. But I'm still excited for it, not just it's a Dragon Ball DB, but that Devilartemis is animating it
E=MC^2, is as the episode says an equation to determine how much energy comes from mass. The E stands for energy, the M stands for Mass and C stands for the speed of light. Witch is why they mention that.
I need to see you playing all the Infamous games and also both of the Prototype games. But you especially need to play Infamous Festival Of Blood, I think.
This man is an international treasure. We can use him as a litmus teat to check whether the things from our childhood were good or if its simple nostalgia blinding us.
Ignoring raw power scaling, Mercer mostly fought soldiers, and lesser viral mutants with less intelligence and strength. The one time Mercer made someone his equal was Heller, and that ended with him dying. Cole mostly fought other superhumans with far more varied superpowers. Cryokinesis, Pyrokinesis, Telekinesis, Mutagenic Control, etc. Kessler is an older, stronger, more experienced version of him. Conduits are also naturally resistant to their own powers. Cole won. Then The Beast shows up, and levels a city with a wave of its hand. Cole beat it. Also, these two games have always had a rivalry, due to journalism. Their gameplay is unmatched, fondly remembered for setting the standard for superhero sandboxes. PROTOTYPE and PROTOTYPE 2 are both unmatched in terms of sandbox cruelty.
In fairness to Heller killing Alex, it's very heavily implied Alex let him win. Hell, if I recall Alex literally gave him advice on how to kill him and canonically never used the fullest of his abilities against people that could replace him at the "top of the food chain". He wanted someone to be stronger than him to validate his "survival of the fittest" beliefs.
E=mc^2 is energy=mass x Speed of light^2. The point of this equation is to calculate how much energy is in matter. C in equations with physics usually mean speed of light
Yeah these are literally two of the greatest superhero style open world games before that was even popular. They're both very badass games and will loved. You just don't hear about him anymore because the last entry in both of them were over 10 years ago. They kind of just did their story and then that was that. What just sad because for me especially prototype which is the game with Alex Mercer in it was amazingly fun at higher levels.
“Have you heard of these games?”Bruh, inFAMOUS was my childhood. You’ve no idea how heavily requested this fight was. But great reaction though, I’d recommend giving both games a shot, but ithe first two inFAMOUS games are a little hard to come by these days due to being stuck on the PS3 with no remaster in sight, unfortunately.
If you want to add more of a clusterfuck, they didn't even cover the fact that infamous 2 had a dlc called festival of blood. A bit of a what if story where Cole got turned into a Vampire during mardi gras.
inHuman is the track name. in (like inFamous, spelled that way too), and inhuman (like Cole and Alex both bring different from normal humans) and that their stories are about humanity (power and responsibility, humanity vs inhumanity)
I've got a feeling that one way or another, the next fight is going to be a stomp one way or another. Probably in Freeza's favor, but G1 Megatron is from an 80s cartoon, so the scales might be tipped. Even if it is a stomp, I can definitely see an fun fight with some good banter.
Wait... G1 megatron vs Freeza... at the peak of their respective power levels? Freeza wins... like I'm a transformers fan but Megs never blew up a god damn planet with just his own personal firepower. Freeza's done that in pre-show lore repeatedly and has gotten so much stronger since that point that it's just... yeah, how would Megs even last a whole second?
Hey, i like watching things back and seeing reactions, forgot to watch yours until now and, what was the reference to you in discord vs bill?, i didn't notice it
Yes I've heard of them and played them all of them I've been waiting for this match up for over 10 years if you ever get the chance play them do it it's worth they're awesome.
You should absolutely play [Prototype]. A horror game where YOU are the horror. It is a power fantasy and a good way to destress by rampaging through endless hordes as a higher evolved being. Don't play the first game on PC. It's broken and requires more precautions and programs in a step by step guide than a nuclear reactor to get working. Xbox Bundle of both games is the recommended choice.
@@theduckgoesmoo I think it was a patch that screwed things up. And since the developers were bought and shut down it hasn't been fixed. TH-camr IcyCaress did a stream replaying Prototype 1 where in the first 10 minutes he explains everything he needed to do to get it to run. Mods to up the fps and had to run the game on a specific driver slot and temporarily shut down all other programs when the game booted up. It's absurd. Xbox all the way.
i sincerely hope they get Littlekuriboh to voice Freeza...i mean, they've gotten Lanipator to voice Vegeta twice; Vegeta VS Shadow and Vegeta VS Thor, so i'm sure they can get Littlekuriboh to voice Freeza. :)
Fun fact: Its been a long standing fan theory that Alex is not really dead and that he wanted Heller to beat him in a public spectacle. Supposedly, one of the devs even said that he IS canonically still alive at the end of Prototype 2. But I haven't been able to find any sources to confirm this.
It is still not canonical confirm. They either took it back or you got mis information. The fact you can't find it probably proves it. Even Deathbattle confirm he dead and their research comes straight from the source.
i know transformers prime megatron. but not the version they showed there. tho i wonder if they are gonna use manga or anime freeza. fun fact. dragon ball characters in the manga are many times stronger than their anime counterparts.
I still feel like the speed feat wasn't true, I've played both prototype and infamous enough to know, Alex can run across the entire city on foot in at least a minute, whilst Cole could only achieve that speed by riding on electric wires to speed grind, physical speed (Alex) vs situational speed(Cole) I'd say the physical matters more since it can be used at all times rather than situational that can only be used in specific situations
They were comparing reaction/processing speed. Cole could react to lightning that reached 90% speed of light. Alex could process information at 60% speed of light. They didn’t really talk about movement/traversal speed.
Megatron is the leader of the Decepticons, not Starscream. Starscream is Megatron's 2nd in command who tries to backstabbed his leader every other day and despite the numerous failed attempts, Megatron for some reason still keeps him in his army. Also, it's not that Transformers is a show, it's shows with an S. There like over 15 different series of Transformers over the years and they reboot the series every three to five years. Death Battle is using Megatron from the original cartoon and the G1 comics from IDW and not Megatron from the other 14 different series since Generation 1 is the most famous and well known incarnation of Transformers.
I have to be honest with you about the battle, it seems to be a nostalgia battle to see a Teenage level game v a Mature level game with two of the powerful characters that PlayStation had to provide to all superher/Villain fans out there. While there was some comics that take place during the time between their first game and second game. So it was crazy during early PS3 era of gaming to witness those two characters never had a death battle till now. 😄 Also you ask about Movies on the games, funny thing is that there was supposed to been movies based on them but got scrapped because of lacking sources and production. So the best way to get movies are watching Gameplay Cutscenes and understand the story. As well trying to play the games on old consoles like PS3 to give it a shot. Or if you like to try out Remastered for Prototype series on for PS4 version/XBox series X.
The song is called [inHuman]! It was made by Brandon Yates, with Omega Sparx and SWATS doing the vocals! With it being a rap track, SWATS represents Cole, and Sparx represents Alex!
So, when I was watching this, I actually went for Alex because of the whole, "Infection" thing and after looking at the Comments Section of the actual Video, I found out that other people thought Alex was going to win and thought they were going to mourn Cole, but they were all glad it didn't go that way.
General fanbase assumed that it was a stomp for Alex since the inception of the matchup, but the serious VS Battle community (and most prediction videos) pretty much nailed what the Death Battle said. Everyone there knew Cole would win.
These games are pretty awesome! also serious question; if you didn't want spoilers from Death Battle before this, then why not just look up a TH-cam video that goes over both video game timelines? I understand getting videos out but if your expecting 0 spoilers from Death Battle then your going to get the wrong expectation here.....Like honestly, Death battle spoils a ton of things in their videos, like a lot.....more then the people who leak video game photoaged before the game even comes out. Also these games are both decades old, there is no way they are considered spoiler free by now. Not trying to be a jerk about this but still
Oh I don’t care about spoilers for series I currently don’t have plans to watch or play. People really like that I don’t know anything about the characters
@@theduckgoesmoo Right, sorry if I seemed like a jerk, its just that I grew up with the infamous series, so a big part of me wants people to understand the story at least through timeline videos before they start going into spoiler territory.
I wouldnt say its an actual weakness, more like hes just not immune to it. And im sure if the fight continued, Alex wouldnt have been as affected by the battle prod
Actually it been stated Alex gain a resistance after that fight and by Prototype 2 has a resistance. However it doesn't matter. Cole has been seen several times bypass people's resistance to electricity.
@@chrismanning2888Alex did build a resistance to electricity. It is stated in the lore. But it doesn't matter because Cole been seen several times bypass people's resistance to electricity
@@theinsurance2450 I never said he wasn't resistant to it, just that he's not weak to it. He did build up a resistance to the electricity, but Coles packs much more firepower then what Alex has been hit with so it didn't matter
But it is when there is a big difference in speed. Cole has lightning-fast attacks and is able to react at that same speed. He is simply faster than Mercer and by far, Alex could only block
So the reason the matchup was shelved until now is that at the time they were working on it, they realized they had nowhere near the resources to make it a good episode. By the time they did, the two franchises had pretty much fallen into obscurity, so they didn't know if the matchup was even warranted anymore. It winning the Champion's Poll told them it was.
Which is super weird since people have been calling for this match-up for pretty much the entirety of death battle's duration.
Another case of TH-camrs underestimating their Fanbase.
You don’t shelved something just because the game went into obscurity. It just hurt your fans that wanted it for so long
The whole 'franchise fallen into obscurity' I find as odd. Prototype I could understand as it never being that hugely popular when it came out and with people comparing it to the company's Hulk video games. But Infamous, obscure?
The Infamous games were some of the flagship titles in the PS3's library. Both games were up there with the Uncharted series in making the console a system seller. Even though the series hasn't received a new entry since the launch of the PS4, it's still referenced to this day (there are two within God of War Ragnarok). It'll be like calling Sly Cooper and Jax and Daxter obscure.
I don’t know if it was necessarily the team’s call there’s a whole ladder to this thing and budgets that have to be approved by people that probably have no idea about TH-cam or video games
Yes. Both these games were pretty popular back in the late 2000's due to them being superhero open world sandbox games, both coming out in 2009 . They were always compared together. Dont blame you for not knowing them. They both ended pretty quickly and havent been relevant in over a decade. The last Infamous game came out in 2014 and the last Prototype was 2012
Which is honestly a shame. While they did both run their course in terms of story beyond a shadow of a doubt, it's the electricity powers, the sentient virus powers that still have me going back to play both years later. I think if Sucker Punch and Radical could find a way to continue to use those powers, someway - even if it's just a remake, with extra abilities added and a bit more freedom with said powers - they could easily continue both series.
Or at the very least they'd have me there day one. There's very few things as cathartic as just giving a random passerby a casual zap to the face and watching him go down after you get pinged out of the sky by a bullet when you're busy trying to collect a Blast Shard.
Honestly, given the anti-hero climate of stuff nowadays, it would work well. Alot of contemporary social commentary could be made, especially with what Infamous Second Son had and similar with Prototype.
2:18 Well, the line about the script being shelved was just a joke in the episode/ an “in-universe” reason for why it’s taken so long.
The actual reason it took so long was because, back when this matchup was very popular, the team couldn’t really do it back then because of how small the team was. And when it was big enough to possibly do it, they thought the matchup was irrelevant and no one wanted it, which very much wasn’t the case
Another case of TH-camrs underestimating their Fanbase.
@@fireball1249more like the other fanbases
It's funny that you compare Cole to the Avatar because there's another conduit in Infamous Second Son who has the power to obtain other people's powers. The people don't lose their powers, but Delsin (the main character of the game) learns how to use their powers.
Sounds about right
To add to that: seen some folks say that the element that Delsin absorbs for his powers is the element that makes Conduits. Hence the reason why he’s the only one to break the machines that use that element and get stronger from absorbing it. Plus the reason why he even gains memories of new abilities that the person he absorbed had to learn over the years. Which is crazy in its own right.
@anthropyrequien6227 In a way yeah. Like folks say he’s like the Second Coming of the Beast in a sense due to him being ability to gain new abilities and unlocking the skills of those abilities with enough energy. Of course gameplay mechanics and lore wise he’s limited to the supply of energy for the powers he’s currently using and has to resupply to continue using the offensive abilities of it. So in a sense his element is Conduits themselves and specifically pure breeds of Conduits since he can only absorb the rock enemies’ rocks once he gets the original rock powers from the main antagonist.
In this battle it really did boil down to Cole's raw power overcoming Alex's regen while also being able to resist the virus. Speed really didn't play much of a factor. And yeah if they chose Evil Cole (the games' Karma system leads to different endings) It would have been an outright stomp, Cole's own immense power, paired with Nix's napalm based powers and enhanced with the Beast's obnoxious list of abilities makes him absolutely terrifying. John (the Beast's name prior to his transformation) gives Cole all of his powers which includes:
Telepathy
Pyrokinesis
Ray field blast
Ergokinesis
Teleportation
Singularity
Regeneration
Transmutation
Shapeshifting
Size manipulation
Weather manipulation
Matter manipulation
Gravity manipulation
Radiation absorption
Radiation manipulation
Power amplification
Power nullification
Power bestowal
Power transference
They had to choose Good Cole for this fight to be even remotely close.
My wife is now chanting "Bio Leech" at me, since I thought Alex would win.
She played InFamous (PlayStation), I played Prototype (PC). I'm not disappointed though.
My dream superpowers have always been Electricity and Fire.
@@TheSacredSavior the Uchiha special
The thing that I find to be weird is their insistence that Cole surviving the Ray Sphere's atomic explosion but the Ray Sphere isn't harmful to anyone with the conduit gene because all it does is awaken the dormant conduit's powers at the expense of everyone else's lives.
@@macwarrenconnorCole could tank blasts from the beast who uses the same energy, which most certainly does harm him.
@@macwarrenconnorCole is shown in the first game to still be banged up from the explosion the ray sphere caused. Plus at the end of the game Kessler himself says he wasn't sure if Cole would survive the blast and even checked his pulse to make sure he's alive. So while it's made to produce conduits, the chances of it happening is still really dangerous and they could still die if they aren't durable enough
I played these games back in the day. Cole only got ice powers halfway in the 2nd game because of a device in the game that allowed Cole to absorbed some powers from another conduit(basically a person with powers). If you go in the dark path, you get flame powers instead. There was a 3rd Infamous game set years later with a different main character. He's meant to be a power sponge because he ended up getting smoke, neon, video, and concrete powers.
Alex going full on villain in the 2nd game was controversial. The 1st game ended with him becoming sort of more heroic and saving NYC from a nuke while being in disgust of real Alex Mercer who tried to kill everyone by unleashing the virus. Then the 2nd game came around and was suddenly a villain. The 2nd game had another guy as the main character to kill Alex. The tie-in comic at least tried to explain why Alex changed but it wasn't explained in the game itself.
Yeah I hated that change in the second game myself. Like Heller was cool but I always wanted there to be some sort of twist reveal that there were actually multiple Alex's. Like after the nuke blast there was another puddle of him somewhere out there that also regrew and that one became the good Alex. my main motivator for wanting this other than wanting to see Alex's the protagonist again was to finally have Alex and Pariah meet since it's heavily hinted in the first game that Pariah would have eventually become a major boss battle given that he's essentially the natural version of what Alex Mercer became artificially
Duck, having followed you since your first channel, I'm still not surprised you haven't heard of either game. I'm more surprised if you *have* heard of something.
Seriously, Duck's a nice guy but it feels like he's lived under a rock until only a few years ago. Honestly I wouldn't be surprised if Duck said he'd never heard of Star Wars.
"They feel like games that came out in the 90s." pfft... Dude, games from the 90s wish they could look this good.
For retrospect, both games first came out in 2009 a few years after video games went HD
Duck, you need a refresher on physics. The reason why nuclear bombs have such high yields despite their small size is because a little bit of mass becomes a lot of energy when you factor in the relationship with the speed of light squared. E = mc^2 is one of the most important equations in science, never forget it.
Wow, that's actually insane you were an easter egg/cameo in Bill vs. Discord, congrats!
But yeah, from what I can understand, this has always been a popular matchup for over a decade. Since both Infamous and Prototype came out in the same year(2009), similar story concepts, and both are sandbox games. I remember that they did once want Alex to fight Carnage, but settled on Cole for the as-mentioned similarities
Overall, I agree with the outcome for the most part. It was a very cool fight, and I'm extremely happy for the fans of both franchises to finally get their desired matchup realized into a DB... Still wished Kratos vs. Asura won, but who knows, with that matchup being the runner-up for the 3d poll, and how split everyone is on who would win. Maybe it'll happen next season or eventually
Also, Devilartemis didn't animate this one, but he is animating Frieza vs. Megatron which will be his first Blender animation for Death Battle which I'm certainly excited for. Heard the outcome is very dependent on which version of Megatron they use, but I'm just excited to see the fight no matter who wins. I can't wait for that episode along with your reaction to it, awesome reaction as always, congrats on breaking your losing streak
Yeah I saw his tweet about it!! I’m super excited and curious who’s voicing Frieza
@@theduckgoesmooDeath Battle usually gets the Teamfourstar voices of Dragon Ball characters. Vegeta got Lanipator in his episode and Gogeta vs Vegito, Trunks got Kaiserneko in his xeno self vs Archie Silver, so i fully expect his voice in Teamfourstar to reprise him. Devilartemis is also a possibility, as he does a good Frieza impression.
Fun fact: Prototpe 1 was made in the same engine as an incredible hulk game
Mercer was gonna die cuz the company he was working on the virus for tried to shut down the project and kill everone working on it, Mercer took a sample of it as insurance for his safety, it didnt work and he smashed it before dying
My fav thing to do in the game is equip the shield and run up the sidewalks and watch the floppy ragdolls.
The song [inHuman] is another vocal bop combining both the games titles of [Prototype] and inFamous
The next fight is gonna Devilartemis' first DB blender fight
Huh, no wonder Prototype felt really familiar, I actually played Hulk Ultimate Destruction and it feels a lot like prototype, especially when you play with a banner skin and it feels like your character is a lot smaller then there supposed to be.
4:37
The equation they bring up, E = mc^2, basically translates to Energy = mass x speed of light^2, and is an equation that Albert Einstein proposed based on his theory of relativity, basically explaining how a small amount of mass can become a massive amount of energy. It's an equation that can be used to explain the energy released in an atomic bomb, though he himself never helped build it.
1. Its almost too fitting that this whole battle basically one between a superhero and a supervillain
2. The saddest part is that if Alex had met someone like Cole, he might have been able to work past his own nihilism.
Duck; my wife, brother, and I had an unofficial blind bet on this fight when they announced it at the end of last season.
My wife went InFamous, my brother and I went Prototype.
She now is chanting "Bio Leech" repeatedly ended by "Love you". I bought her both Prototype games in response.
P.S: My brother and I grew up on PC (with other systems added later). My wife is PlayStation (to my knowledge).
7:14 Nah, Cole actually stays dead, and gets replaced with a new protagonist, Delsin Rowe, just like with Alex
6:55 actually there was a sequel later on. Just with a new main character called: Infamous: Second Son
Yeah ever since both inFamous and Prototype released their first two games only two weeks apart people started drawing comparisons and after just beating Prototype 1 I can see why. Even after inFamous and Prototype disappeared in the early to mid 2010’s and these two characters become irrelevant that never mattered as it was still a HIGHLY requested matchup for years. It’s a matchup that was always special and passionate for so many people. And speaking personally I LOVE the inFamous series, I’ve played all the games on PS3 and PS4 I even went ahead and read the inFamous comic in preparation for this Death Battle. And since I played every game Cole in Death Battle has always been a dream for me and after seeing it and watching Cole win I was really happy.
"Why is it the speed of light squared?"
Because they're calculating the energy output that the mass of that round would have if it were spontaneously converted entirely to energy. That's what E=MCsquared IS. The potential energy output (E) of any given hunk of matter is equal (=) to its mass (M) times the speed of light (C) squared.
Cole MacGrath and the inFAMOUS games were my jam back on the ps3 and i'm so glad they went with "good" Cole and not "evil" Cole for this. it coulda ended up an edgelord vs edgelord fight but instead they actually have clashing ideolagies.
the fact sony hasn't rereleased inFAMOUS 1 and 2 is a crime.
Yes, these two game franchises were some of my favorites back in the day
Infamous 2 is my top 10 best games ever. Of all time. The platforming is great, the combat is awesome and the story is ACTUALLY NOT CRAP. Your choices between good and evil actually matter to the ending, to what missions you could get and what powers you could use. Half as long, twice as bright, mother f'ers.
As for Prototype 1, I still play it. It's a great way to blow off some steam. It's like going Rip and Tear before the new Doom came along. Excellent platforming, great fluid combat, and there's a story too I think. Didn't pay much attention, too busy ripping heads off at mach 1.
Never heard of either of these characters, let alone their games, so you’re not alone there. Probably because I wasn’t aloud to have these kind of games. Right before the battle started I changed my choice last second and lost lol
I've never heard of the Characters, but have heard of the Games they're from. I just was never interested in the Games and I guess I missed out on some good shit.
the Karmic Overload was mentioned and explained in Cole's analysis long before he used it and the Bio-Leech to win the animation, so i'm not sure why the kill would be considered a spoiler lol
still looking forward to the day you get one right for actual right reasons haha, it's still fun to watch, the streak of that is just so long that i feel like it'll be cause for celebration once we get there
Funny story about infamous, at the end of 2 with the good ending you’d think that All conduits die, then Second Son comes out.
You’d think Second Son continues the evil path where conduits are saved and most people died. Nope! The good ending apparently killed most, but not all, conduits instead. So Second Son still happened even after Coles sacrifice.
Want your mind blown further? The bay movies aren't even the first transformers movies. The first one was animate and was a canonical must watch so you're not lost as to why certain characters weren't there at the start of seadon 3.
The song is called inhuman by Brandon Yates Omega spark and I forgot one other singer but it's a really good song. The lyric basically go with the characteristics of Cole macgrath and Alex Mercer
I've played Infamous, Infamous 2, and Infamous: Second Son. Love those games
04:32 That's what the E = mc2 equation means. Energy = Mass x speed of light squared. Technically a lot of energy is contained in the structure of everything but can't be fully converted back into energy. Think about the principles of nuclear weapons and apply similarities here.
When you say null factor, that’s how the community talks. When two characters have something, it cancels out so to speak. It’s about differences, positives and negatives, so equals cancel
Also, for death battles, this is up there with Mario and Sonic. It’s one of THE most wanted along with Galactus vs Unicron and Ash Ketchum vs Yugi Moto (anime version).
The ost track for this Death Battle is called "[inHuman]" by Brandon Yates
Frieza vs Megatron has been a highly requested one in db haha
Yet not a liked one
*Give a like* Your welcome.
Ever since it was announced, it's been a very mixed bag of reactions. The big takeaway is that Frieza should stomp, but if they use a specific version of Megatron, the IDW version then Megatron would stomp. I don't know if how strong manga Frieza is now plays any factor in the latter point. But I'm still excited for it, not just it's a Dragon Ball DB, but that Devilartemis is animating it
E=MC^2, is as the episode says an equation to determine how much energy comes from mass. The E stands for energy, the M stands for Mass and C stands for the speed of light. Witch is why they mention that.
They metion it because they want to make it clear how much raw power Cole can source inside of him. Along with amount power he could release and take.
@@theinsurance2450 This was in response to him asking why it was multiplied by the speed of light squared.
Anyone who has not heard of these two games really needs to play these games.
Where were you referenced in the bill vs discord death battle? I rewatched your reaction but didn’t spot it.
I need to see you playing all the Infamous games and also both of the Prototype games.
But you especially need to play Infamous Festival Of Blood, I think.
4:37 they multiplied it by light spread to calculate the energy.
E=MC2 translates to Energy = mass multiplied by the spread of light squared.
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Bill Is One Bill Is All 90 W 56 L (C 1 In A Roll) Highest Streak: 7 10 more
Me: 50 W 40 L Damn I really got this one wrong
I kinda just skimmed through this fight. Way more invested for next time. Also Megatron is the leader of the Decepticons. Not Starscream
This man is an international treasure.
We can use him as a litmus teat to check whether the things from our childhood were good or if its simple nostalgia blinding us.
Oh I was wondering what happened to you! Sorry to hear about the ban.
Ignoring raw power scaling, Mercer mostly fought soldiers, and lesser viral mutants with less intelligence and strength.
The one time Mercer made someone his equal was Heller, and that ended with him dying.
Cole mostly fought other superhumans with far more varied superpowers. Cryokinesis, Pyrokinesis, Telekinesis, Mutagenic Control, etc.
Kessler is an older, stronger, more experienced version of him. Conduits are also naturally resistant to their own powers. Cole won.
Then The Beast shows up, and levels a city with a wave of its hand. Cole beat it.
Also, these two games have always had a rivalry, due to journalism.
Their gameplay is unmatched, fondly remembered for setting the standard for superhero sandboxes. PROTOTYPE and PROTOTYPE 2 are both unmatched in terms of sandbox cruelty.
In fairness to Heller killing Alex, it's very heavily implied Alex let him win. Hell, if I recall Alex literally gave him advice on how to kill him and canonically never used the fullest of his abilities against people that could replace him at the "top of the food chain". He wanted someone to be stronger than him to validate his "survival of the fittest" beliefs.
Cole was killed off in Infamous 2’s canon ending. The games that came after him continue the same timeline but with different protagonists.
In the world of Infamous a conduit is someone who has superpowers
E=mc^2 is energy=mass x Speed of light^2. The point of this equation is to calculate how much energy is in matter. C in equations with physics usually mean speed of light
I’m glad I got the chance to play these games on the ps3. These games were my childhood and are great games.
Yeah these are literally two of the greatest superhero style open world games before that was even popular. They're both very badass games and will loved. You just don't hear about him anymore because the last entry in both of them were over 10 years ago. They kind of just did their story and then that was that. What just sad because for me especially prototype which is the game with Alex Mercer in it was amazingly fun at higher levels.
“Have you heard of these games?”Bruh, inFAMOUS was my childhood. You’ve no idea how heavily requested this fight was. But great reaction though, I’d recommend giving both games a shot, but ithe first two inFAMOUS games are a little hard to come by these days due to being stuck on the PS3 with no remaster in sight, unfortunately.
I played a ton of prototype back in the day.
You can turn random people's faces into surfboards.
Honestly thought both games are pretty good duck. Also the songs is called [inHuman] which fits rather well.
If you want to add more of a clusterfuck, they didn't even cover the fact that infamous 2 had a dlc called festival of blood. A bit of a what if story where Cole got turned into a Vampire during mardi gras.
inHuman is the track name. in (like inFamous, spelled that way too), and inhuman (like Cole and Alex both bring different from normal humans) and that their stories are about humanity (power and responsibility, humanity vs inhumanity)
Only those who have no life or have been living under a rock haven’t heard of these games
Just in case it hasn’t been said, the song is called [inHuman].
So weird he didnt know the two games, InFamous especially, it was super, super famous around my childhood!!
In the equation E=Mc^2, c stands for the constant which is the speed of light.
Cole is from Imfamous 1 (2009) and Imfamous 2 (2011) which were only released on the PS3. Sony needs to remaster these games.
I've got a feeling that one way or another, the next fight is going to be a stomp one way or another. Probably in Freeza's favor, but G1 Megatron is from an 80s cartoon, so the scales might be tipped. Even if it is a stomp, I can definitely see an fun fight with some good banter.
Wait... G1 megatron vs Freeza... at the peak of their respective power levels? Freeza wins... like I'm a transformers fan but Megs never blew up a god damn planet with just his own personal firepower. Freeza's done that in pre-show lore repeatedly and has gotten so much stronger since that point that it's just... yeah, how would Megs even last a whole second?
Fun fact: It’s canon in the Infamous universe that Cole has to sponge-bathe because the electricity inside him reacts poorly to water.
@theduckgoesmoo have you ever done some kind of donation goal where you’d dress up as a duck and go moo?
I have not but maybe for 100k subscribers
The song is called [inHuman]
Hey, i like watching things back and seeing reactions, forgot to watch yours until now and, what was the reference to you in discord vs bill?, i didn't notice it
When they listed bill ciphers real name one of the names was an anagram for theduckgoesmoo
Ah, that makes sense, it goes by fast and im not good at anagrams so that's really cool dude
Yes I've heard of them and played them all of them I've been waiting for this match up for over 10 years if you ever get the chance play them do it it's worth they're awesome.
Infamous is probably my most replayed game, that and War for Cybertron
At 3:26 i think that was footage from batinthesun the channel that does live action deathbattles i may be wrong
I've loved these games.
There are many more devastators and the muscle mass ability which can increase his initial strength tenfold
Never heard of these games just heard of Cole before
You should absolutely play [Prototype]. A horror game where YOU are the horror. It is a power fantasy and a good way to destress by rampaging through endless hordes as a higher evolved being.
Don't play the first game on PC. It's broken and requires more precautions and programs in a step by step guide than a nuclear reactor to get working. Xbox Bundle of both games is the recommended choice.
Why is it so bad on pc?
@@theduckgoesmoo I think it was a patch that screwed things up. And since the developers were bought and shut down it hasn't been fixed. TH-camr IcyCaress did a stream replaying Prototype 1 where in the first 10 minutes he explains everything he needed to do to get it to run. Mods to up the fps and had to run the game on a specific driver slot and temporarily shut down all other programs when the game booted up. It's absurd. Xbox all the way.
Almost forgot you were back on.
Both games are from the PS3 era. Oldies but goodies.
Please claim your early voucher to attend Megatron’s closed casket funeral.
i sincerely hope they get Littlekuriboh to voice Freeza...i mean, they've gotten Lanipator to voice Vegeta twice; Vegeta VS Shadow and Vegeta VS Thor, so i'm sure they can get Littlekuriboh to voice Freeza. :)
Fun fact:
Its been a long standing fan theory that Alex is not really dead and that he wanted Heller to beat him in a public spectacle.
Supposedly, one of the devs even said that he IS canonically still alive at the end of Prototype 2.
But I haven't been able to find any sources to confirm this.
It is still not canonical confirm. They either took it back or you got mis information. The fact you can't find it probably proves it. Even Deathbattle confirm he dead and their research comes straight from the source.
4:37 because E(nergy)=M(ass)×C(the speed of light)^2
Devilartemis is going to animate the next episode
i know transformers prime megatron. but not the version they showed there.
tho i wonder if they are gonna use manga or anime freeza. fun fact. dragon ball characters in the manga are many times stronger than their anime counterparts.
Now just imagine the horrors that the fused version of these would create hahaha
I still feel like the speed feat wasn't true, I've played both prototype and infamous enough to know, Alex can run across the entire city on foot in at least a minute, whilst Cole could only achieve that speed by riding on electric wires to speed grind, physical speed (Alex) vs situational speed(Cole) I'd say the physical matters more since it can be used at all times rather than situational that can only be used in specific situations
They were comparing reaction/processing speed.
Cole could react to lightning that reached 90% speed of light.
Alex could process information at 60% speed of light.
They didn’t really talk about movement/traversal speed.
Both these games weew great back in the day, sadly both aren't exactly well, popular anymore
Megatron is the leader of the Decepticons, not Starscream. Starscream is Megatron's 2nd in command who tries to backstabbed his leader every other day and despite the numerous failed attempts, Megatron for some reason still keeps him in his army.
Also, it's not that Transformers is a show, it's shows with an S. There like over 15 different series of Transformers over the years and they reboot the series every three to five years. Death Battle is using Megatron from the original cartoon and the G1 comics from IDW and not Megatron from the other 14 different series since Generation 1 is the most famous and well known incarnation of Transformers.
I'm excited that devilartemis is animating the next death battle
[Zarbon Moan for no fucking reason.]
Dude these games were so good
I have to be honest with you about the battle, it seems to be a nostalgia battle to see a Teenage level game v a Mature level game with two of the powerful characters that PlayStation had to provide to all superher/Villain fans out there. While there was some comics that take place during the time between their first game and second game. So it was crazy during early PS3 era of gaming to witness those two characters never had a death battle till now. 😄 Also you ask about Movies on the games, funny thing is that there was supposed to been movies based on them but got scrapped because of lacking sources and production. So the best way to get movies are watching Gameplay Cutscenes and understand the story. As well trying to play the games on old consoles like PS3 to give it a shot. Or if you like to try out Remastered for Prototype series on for PS4 version/XBox series X.
Frieza may be super short but boy is he universe level strong at this point in the manga!
The song is called [inHuman]! It was made by Brandon Yates, with Omega Sparx and SWATS doing the vocals! With it being a rap track, SWATS represents Cole, and Sparx represents Alex!
Actually Alex can gain abilities even just a drop of blood too he could easily would've gained Cole's powers and his menories
I am pretty sure they came out in the late 2000’s
Played both those games and loved them. When playing the games, alex mercer feels way more powerful than cole.
Song is called inhuman
Infamous is a pretty fun game and I've beaten the second one multiple times. Though never played the prototype games.
I've played Prototype, so yes. I have heard of Infamous, but I don't know anything about it.
Personally I like Alex more but that's more because as a kid I played his game
So, when I was watching this, I actually went for Alex because of the whole, "Infection" thing and after looking at the Comments Section of the actual Video, I found out that other people thought Alex was going to win and thought they were going to mourn Cole, but they were all glad it didn't go that way.
General fanbase assumed that it was a stomp for Alex since the inception of the matchup, but the serious VS Battle community (and most prediction videos) pretty much nailed what the Death Battle said. Everyone there knew Cole would win.
These games are pretty awesome! also serious question; if you didn't want spoilers from Death Battle before this, then why not just look up a TH-cam video that goes over both video game timelines? I understand getting videos out but if your expecting 0 spoilers from Death Battle then your going to get the wrong expectation here.....Like honestly, Death battle spoils a ton of things in their videos, like a lot.....more then the people who leak video game photoaged before the game even comes out. Also these games are both decades old, there is no way they are considered spoiler free by now.
Not trying to be a jerk about this but still
Oh I don’t care about spoilers for series I currently don’t have plans to watch or play. People really like that I don’t know anything about the characters
@@theduckgoesmoo Right, sorry if I seemed like a jerk, its just that I grew up with the infamous series, so a big part of me wants people to understand the story at least through timeline videos before they start going into spoiler territory.
No, Alex isn't immune to electricity. That is his actual weakness. A guy with a literal _cattle prod_ was able to keep Alex at bay.
I wouldnt say its an actual weakness, more like hes just not immune to it. And im sure if the fight continued, Alex wouldnt have been as affected by the battle prod
Actually it been stated Alex gain a resistance after that fight and by Prototype 2 has a resistance. However it doesn't matter. Cole has been seen several times bypass people's resistance to electricity.
@@chrismanning2888Alex did build a resistance to electricity. It is stated in the lore. But it doesn't matter because Cole been seen several times bypass people's resistance to electricity
@@theinsurance2450 I never said he wasn't resistant to it, just that he's not weak to it. He did build up a resistance to the electricity, but Coles packs much more firepower then what Alex has been hit with so it didn't matter
Prototype 1 and 2 are amazing games shame we don't get a 3rd
ive played 2 prototype games and the game infamous second son.
all really good games
No but devil will make the next one
3 "super power games" I really enjoyed, these 2 and "The Darkness".... however I was not a fan of any of the sequels to any of these games.
They genna make megatron win because cartoon > anime for death battle standards
One of these days, we need to have a talk about how speed is not always the deciding factor
But it is when there is a big difference in speed.
Cole has lightning-fast attacks and is able to react at that same speed.
He is simply faster than Mercer and by far, Alex could only block
@@riddlerwillison3336 Yes but the main reason Cole won was his greater power.