You'd think it's easy, but look up Sealand for example, to get a country recognized by the UN usually takes years. And it has to be an inhabited island as well, with it's own laws, regulations, nationality, flag, passport, etc. ICANN uses the ISO 3166 list. So you might also have to convince: "There are fifteen experts with voting rights on the ISO 3166/MA. Nine are representatives of national standards organizations."
As a web developer who originally studied international relations in college, this is a bizarrely interesting intersection of 2 very different fields. Guess this just proves that it's not so easy to separate things, even if they appear to be complete opp9sits
While I think its dumb to use ccTLD's that you don't have a presence in, not sure why IANA wouldn't just assume ownership and management of ceased ccTLD domains and just decline new requests? If there isn't a country to own its not like there is a legitimate claim right?
@@NihongoWakannai Yeah its a standard and I'm not suggesting wildwest but the idea that a country stops existing and therefore technology will break seems dumb to me. Imagine any businesses actually in Mooorriisshussz that hosted SaaS products - they would be massively affected by some political shenanigans. I'm not sure what happens if a country changes it name either
A political change like whether a country exists is a major one and a lot of things break. The ccTLD is not that important. Basing your business identity on ccTLD that the business doesn't exist in, is extremely risky. ccTLDs were not meant to be issued to companies outside of those countries.
A petname system eliminates debacles of this sort, in part, by devaluing recognizable regions of the global namespace. Of course, this comes at the cost of further atomizing culture, allowing for the distribution of whole namespaces with your preferred sociotechnical and political flavor.
People should be more carefull when registering a domain. Listen to the Syntaxfm episode about how Web Bos lost his .af (Afghanistan) domain after the Taliban took over.
When the British handed Hong Kong back to China, the hk domain didn't go anywhere. Why can't it be the same when the British hand Chagos Islands back to Mauritius? Also, if Britain can have lots of different "countries" for domain purposes [uk, im, gg, gi, io, ai, bm, aq, vg, fk, ms, pn, sh, ac] why can't other countries do the same?
because Hong Kong simply didn't just stop existing, unlike this territory (but I'm sure they will find a way) Also, these other territories are separate political entities, it's unclear at the moment if it will continue to be that way when Mauritius gets the Chagos Archipelago.
> Also, if Britain can have lots of different "countries" for domain purposes The internal political structure of the British Empire is so incredibly messy, that compared to the structure of the US, it's like high school and kindergarten. For example the UK is a country inside of the structure called the British Empire. And think about it this way: There is never a British team in international sports competitions, there are English, Scottish, Northern Irish, Welsh, etc. teams because from a diplomatic pov, these are also kinda countries and kinda not at the same time.
@@rolu9345 sure, but basically all the people will be refugees to other countries. It’s just an example if it’s removed from the ISO numbers then it’s gone as far as the current rules stand
@@rolu9345Yeah, but islands under the water are no more islands. I guess we need some Atlantis-like underwater servers to keep those domains or some shit.
> this doesn't happen very often That’s a very American perspective, haha. While the U.S. is a relatively young country with a unique governmental structure, many older European nations carry a lot of historical and technical debt. The decline of both imperialism and monarchy, along with the upheavals of the industrial revolution, created a lot of turbulence. Many countries broke apart or underwent major transformations-some of which are still playing out today. Guess which country I'm from :)
Will the USA as a country in its current form outlive me? Maybe as I'm not particularly young now, but I wouldn't be 100% sure. The UK itself is one of the oldest countries in the world, if you count England as being part of the UK history. If you do, then some of the Cantons that make up what is now Switzerland are older. Jersey is arguably older (England's history starts when Normandy invaded it, Normandy lost its territory in mainland France and Jersey is what remains). Denmark is a bit older, Japan is undisputedly the oldest.
Decline of imperialism is such a weird thing for me to hear. To this day in my country we're taught history of Europe and not our own. To be fair we do, it's just not really. History in school here is split between history of the world and history of our country. History of the world is just history of Europe, while history of our country starts when Europeans arrived here and is told from their perspective. No locals were left alive to hear from, lmao. History of literature could be boiled down to a bunch of dudes getting inspired by the European art movements at the time and trying to bring it here. To this day a lot of people think Europe is like the birth of human civilization and high culture or something, and a lot of the culture we consume here is either American, Japanese or European. Our music has taken off, but even though I think our cinema is fire it isn't nearly as popular as American movies. I have a heavy suspicion most colonized countries are very similar. I'm from Brazil btw
They could transfer control of .io over to France. We do have our own autonomous "French Indian Ocean Territory" set of Islands which could claim this ccTLD (en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scattered_Islands_in_the_Indian_Ocean).
afaik it's not a single political territory, so therefore there's not an ISO standard for it (one of these territories is the French Southern and Antarctic Lands with TF as the ISO 2-letter code)
@@lakelimbo It was a joke, and you are completely right. But just to annoy the British, I would love to split TAAF in two ^^. Plus, it's welcomed money given the current budget crisis :p (let ignore it is millions vs billions).
Many people don't know this, but you should have a presence/business in the country with a specific ccTLD to follow the requirements for domain ownership. It is often overlooked because of money, but Twitch can lose the domain if Tuvalu decides not to approve the renewal request. Their rules also exist for other gTLD, like .bio, which needs to be somehow related to ecology. Remember, domains are rented, not owned. The land is somewhat this way, too-the government can get your land back if it is for the public good, like a highway, park, military base, or something (it is pretty complicated, though). You don't even need to be compensated for this; I heard about situations (in my European country) where the city plan was changed from building plots to public greenery, and you have only 30 days to dispute that; otherwise gg, you lost almost all the value.
Yeah I went through the .au registration stuff a little while ago. Its a classic case of both sides being dumb - people not paying attention to the risk and the country taking advantage of a cash grab.
This is mostly right, but it's not that you must have a business presence or whatever to register a domain from a country, rather it's that you have to follow the rules of the country's registrar, some of which have that requirement. The Australian one that another commenter refers to not only requires that you have some presence in that country, but also that you have a claim to the name (e.g. trademark, registered business name etc.)
This clearly is the country's decision, not the standard bearer. tk, cc, gg, and other small countries cared more about the income for the hacks than stupid local presence that iNanny can't enforce.
@@FourOf92000 the only validity a right can have comes from communal recognition. this is why anarchy is so stupid because anarchy means might makes right, which in turn means that anarchy only exists as an interim period in so far as the largest organization hasn't yet consolidated power. you live in an anarchical society right now wherein the government is just the largest group of people enforcing their rights upon the people. congrats i guess, you're living your dream.
When the UK pretended to leave te EU, UK businesses without an EU address lost access to the eu domain. If you hung your hat on EU domains based on politics that's kind of dumb. Others make for interesting and novel names, but I would stick to generic international ones personally.
wdym by "pretended"? The UK is legally not part of the EU anymore, even if it's still in Europe. Whether it was a good decision is a different conversation.
Domain servers can simply refuse to de-propagate the domains. Problem solved. That's what they SHOULD do. Removing them is actual theft, as people paid money to BUY those domains.
@@HUEHUEUHEPony Okay, sure technically you're renting it as if you let it lapse, anyone can buy it. But as long as you continue to renew it, you essentially own it. Personally, I believe refusing to let a business that has sunk millions into building a domains value renew it is unethical at best. At worst, grounds for a massive lawsuit.
13:33 Just a heads up if you buy a domain just to have it first and then re-sell it you will face incredibly high fines if you live in the EU, I know it seems smart but don't, you'll ruin your life
@@ArthurGreen-bw3sb ah. the 8" was the first floppy to be released, some time in the late 60s. the commonly available size was 80kb. (later versions of the 8" stored more data, up to 1.2MB even, but i think the more modern formats were more commonly used.)
5 1/4 was pretty ubiquitous by that point, and is small enough to hide in a purse or inside of clothing. It's also possible that they just sent the stolen data via FTP, which comes with the added bonus that there was nothing for anyone else to steal from them if they were mugged on the way home, and no evidence for police or anyone else to use against them
Im talking to the void but I really appreciate that when you're reading out loud you make mistakes. When I do it in my head I make mistakes. I have dyslexia, but normally focusing slowly on the sentence helps. You're faster than anyone in vim, and coding out what's in your mind, but static strings.. Go slow bro. It's not for us, but for you. Read articles like you read code, each weird expression matters. You're helping people more than most universities, I hope I'm not coming across rude to try help you I return. Slow and steady.
In 1994 we did not have generic/novelty domains. Now ICANN/IANA can just shut down .io as the country code TLD and immediately reopen it as a generic TLD. Why are they so against doing it? Why is it bureaucratically impossible? It's a semantic change. It's the meaning behind a string of characters that matters.
@@awdsqe123 The political entity known as Chagos archipelago is formally known as "British Indian Ocean Territory" (BIOT), which is where the "io" comes from. It is not part of the UK, and is politically distinct, just like Guernsey, Jersey, Anguilla etc. with their own governments, which is why they are recognised in the ISO list of countries and territories.
I'm not Serbian, but I sometimes work on systems at a Serbian company which exists for a long time now, their internal DNS structure is still based on .yu :) all of their internal domain names end in .yu, even their brand new servers are assigned .yu DNS. I assume this is true for many of their older IT related companies.
The .eu ccTLD was approved by ICANN on 22 March 2005[6] and put in the Internet root zone on 2 May 2005.[7] Even though the EU is not a country (it is a sui generis intergovernmental and supranational organisation), it has an exceptional reservation in ISO 3166. The Commission and ICANN had extended negotiations lasting more than five years to secure its acceptance.[8]
Can't they just create an autonomous region that governs effectively no one to retain the name? The only link they have to the territory is colonization anyway.
Maybe they'll allow it to be renewed on the condition that it is temporary, used purely to redirect to the new domain with some news posted on that new domain home page indicating the name change.
The Islands are going to Mauritius, so the domain will likely also go to Mauritius, legal successor and everything. Or, arguably, they never left Mauritian sovereignty the UK just occupied them. Things don't just get orphaned in international law.
I think the problem with that is that it's getting incorporated into Mauritius, while under the UK it was a somewhat independent entity. Crown Territories sort of thing, versus literally just being another bit of country.
@@DxBlack Goodness me, I bet you’re always fairly close to the bottom of BBQ invitation lists 😂 It’s just a bit of light hearted fun, don’t take it too seriously
This a very serious example of : do not use something for what it is not meant. Like, don't buy site on country codes if you intend to convey a commercial intention
@@orzhovthief no it's the domain servers who really control the situation. They could just disobey. And if they do nothing, we can create a parallel DNS with our own rules
Ah I'm glad the last 90seconds of the video are in there. The global internet only really exists because of a bunch of agreements that are honored by most participants. Imagine what it would mean to this network of agreements if IANA decided that Google and a bunch of startups are important enough to break the agreements over while entire nations werent.
This was what annoyed me when I was looking into ICANN and Domain Names
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Why? 2 letters for countries and everything else mostly fair game sounds like a good compromise. Especially so as the 2 letters (mostly) come from an external standard. Just think about the ruckus .amazon caused ... Pissed off half of South America ...
I think chances are Google will apply for ownership of IO and pay a couple million dollars and do a rebrand of its expansion, then offer it through Google Domains.
I mean, it's very much doable. There were some guys who made a country on an abandoned oil rig, it was a pretty good business idea, but nobody treated them seriously. Still it CAN be done, as again - the Io domains are worth millions of dollars. The only question is will they give it to them, since the point of the country code domains is to make it clear who governs and executes the law
I would not worry about .io. See, the .yt top level domain should have ceased to exist after Mayotte became overseas department of France in 2011. But you can still register domains in .yt. And why is there no .yo top level domain, yo?
Just make it a gTLD instead of a ccTLD. Problem solved. btw you can register your own whole-ass gTLD if you have like 180-200k to burn and the supporting infra available😊
say Mou-RI-ti-us, the "ou" as in the word "our" also, my first PC I bought in 1990 had a 3.5" disk 1.44MB drive and a 5 1/4" floppy drive of 1.2MB, with a 42 MB hard drive (Seagate ST157a). so if it was at any point "military" it will have been before that.
whoa, are you saying the KGBVAX domain is at risk if Putin's regime falls apart?? The poor, poor VAX user (not a plural) that remains in the KGBVAX network is going to feel soooo alone. I mean, MORE alone.
I don't think it's the same case as .yu because multiple parties aren't fighting over it. Also since UK already had multiple domains by having io and uk I don't see why Mauritius can't have decalre a Mauritius Island(s) of Indian Ocean. I do agree they're not going make an exception if Mauritius doesn't keep it a seperate territory some how. But from my understanding people of Mauritius wanted the home they were literally pushed out of back from the UK so maybe they won't care how much money the domain makes.
Hearing you pronounce Mauritius is just so funny 😂. I don't get it, they already have .mu domain for Mauritius. I had a company there because of there low tax rate so I had go through all that domain stuff.
From what I read, the most likely scenario is that mauritius will strike some kind of deal with the company that currently administers the io tld. For everyone except that company, this will be a complete nothingburger.
Good riddance. While .io tld is kinda cool on its own I've never really liked it due to the ownership of .io tld and handling of Chagos Archipelago, especially Diego Garcia island and expulsion of its inhabitants. If the ownership is handed to authority that is acceptable to refugees coming from Diego Garcia I'll put it on the list of tld's I might consider, assuming the .io tld survives. Overall if/once handover of the territory is done and refugees are able to return to Diego Garcia it would be nice if the tld will be handled to somewhat similarly to .su tld (but with actual conditions to set for it without ambiguity)
@@hastyscorpion I don't see it that way though. Sure if I look at it from different perspective and ask if Paul Kane and later Afilias and Donuts have anything to do with what US and UK did to people living at Diego Garcia yeah the answer would be that they had nothing to do with it, sure. However this is something that could have been changed by UK at any point within last 50, 60 years, but they didn't which is why I personally find the current situation something I cannot accept and through that all find it distasteful to put money into .io tld which is to a point tied to affected territory.
they still won't be going back to Diego Garcia - at least not for 99 years; apparently, they will be going to one or both of the only other islands that were inhabited - about 200 km north of Diego Garcia.
The Indian Ocean domain ownership should be divided up amongst the 47 countries that are surrounded by it (islands)/have coastline nautical borders extending into it . These countries are distributed between the continents of Asia , africa and oceania.
0:45 I would not worry too much. Soviet union went under in 1992. Yet, there are still .su domains. You can even get one if you are so inclined and have a Russian passport, or know someone with a Russian passport.
The official country name is British Indian Ocean Territories. Also, what domain could you make out of Chagos Island? ch is Switzerland, ca is Canada, cg is Congo, co is Colombia, ci is Côte d'Ivoire (Ivory Coast).
@@katrinabryce I thought sovereignty was granted to the islands, why would they keep the old name? It seems when countries are created, they adopt new names. This seems like there are still plenty of options/decisions available.
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The original population was forceably moved to Mauritius in '65. Current inhabitant is "the Military" (UK and US nationals). Before '65 the islands were part of Mauritius and now they are given back to Mauritius.
Does that mean the official country is now Mauritius? Why wouldn’t the country domain be .mu then?
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That would be the direct result, yes. .io ceases to exist and genuinely local registrations would move from .io to .mu. I don't think there are any, though. But with all the money that is at play here, I have no idea what the end result will be. I mean regarding .amazon, the ICANN ignored South American objections and allowed Amazon to register that brand gTLD.
Too many large companies use it. I can't imagine a world where not a single one is willing to sponsor it as a generic TLD to avoid having to completely restructure their identity and internet presence
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just like a digital screen reader, it keeps messing up the pronunciations.
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@@sam3317 The country of Morishes
Sounds to me like Big Tech is gonna need to establish a country
there is literally already a domain called .tech
metal gear plot kojima predicted it all
You'd think it's easy, but look up Sealand for example, to get a country recognized by the UN usually takes years. And it has to be an inhabited island as well, with it's own laws, regulations, nationality, flag, passport, etc. ICANN uses the ISO 3166 list. So you might also have to convince: "There are fifteen experts with voting rights on the ISO 3166/MA. Nine are representatives of national standards organizations."
Epstein Island 😂😂
That's just Ireland though
As a web developer who originally studied international relations in college, this is a bizarrely interesting intersection of 2 very different fields. Guess this just proves that it's not so easy to separate things, even if they appear to be complete opp9sits
As the former showrunner for Marvel's Agents of SHIELD once said, " it's all connected "
This is going to cause one of those rule changes that people see years later and go “wtf happened that someone made that a rule?”
And we are here to witness it and explain it in the future
Alphabet claiming an Island as a nation named Io.
STEP 1: Create an island
STEP 2: Call it Iowa
STEP 3: Make it a country
STEP 1: Grant independence to Iowa
STEP 2: ?????
STEP 3: Profit
While I think its dumb to use ccTLD's that you don't have a presence in, not sure why IANA wouldn't just assume ownership and management of ceased ccTLD domains and just decline new requests? If there isn't a country to own its not like there is a legitimate claim right?
Aren't all 2 letter ones supposed to be for and only for a country? It's part of a standard right?
@@NihongoWakannai Yeah its a standard and I'm not suggesting wildwest but the idea that a country stops existing and therefore technology will break seems dumb to me. Imagine any businesses actually in Mooorriisshussz that hosted SaaS products - they would be massively affected by some political shenanigans. I'm not sure what happens if a country changes it name either
OK, so who will host the domain ? Who will handle the automation of nameserver IP changes ? etc.
A political change like whether a country exists is a major one and a lot of things break. The ccTLD is not that important. Basing your business identity on ccTLD that the business doesn't exist in, is extremely risky. ccTLDs were not meant to be issued to companies outside of those countries.
A petname system eliminates debacles of this sort, in part, by devaluing recognizable regions of the global namespace. Of course, this comes at the cost of further atomizing culture, allowing for the distribution of whole namespaces with your preferred sociotechnical and political flavor.
People should be more carefull when registering a domain. Listen to the Syntaxfm episode about how Web Bos lost his .af (Afghanistan) domain after the Taliban took over.
Just got recommended a video from Web Bos about McMaster-Carr, good timing to see this comment
When the British handed Hong Kong back to China, the hk domain didn't go anywhere. Why can't it be the same when the British hand Chagos Islands back to Mauritius?
Also, if Britain can have lots of different "countries" for domain purposes [uk, im, gg, gi, io, ai, bm, aq, vg, fk, ms, pn, sh, ac] why can't other countries do the same?
Yeah! Why can’t they just give HongKong back?
Because everyone knows that rules apply to everyone, except the ones that made them in the first place.
because Hong Kong simply didn't just stop existing, unlike this territory (but I'm sure they will find a way)
Also, these other territories are separate political entities, it's unclear at the moment if it will continue to be that way when Mauritius gets the Chagos Archipelago.
> Also, if Britain can have lots of different "countries" for domain purposes
The internal political structure of the British Empire is so incredibly messy, that compared to the structure of the US, it's like high school and kindergarten.
For example the UK is a country inside of the structure called the British Empire.
And think about it this way: There is never a British team in international sports competitions, there are English, Scottish, Northern Irish, Welsh, etc. teams because from a diplomatic pov, these are also kinda countries and kinda not at the same time.
guernsey is not part of the uk (.gg)
Twitchs top level domain is from tuvalu as far as i know, also some islands
That likely won’t exist due to climate change: en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Climate_change_in_Tuvalu
@@Dude6978 I mean it will still exist under water. No rule says your country can't be under water.
@@rolu9345 sure, but basically all the people will be refugees to other countries. It’s just an example if it’s removed from the ISO numbers then it’s gone as far as the current rules stand
@@rolu9345 soon to be twitch.atlantis
@@rolu9345Yeah, but islands under the water are no more islands. I guess we need some Atlantis-like underwater servers to keep those domains or some shit.
> this doesn't happen very often
That’s a very American perspective, haha. While the U.S. is a relatively young country with a unique governmental structure, many older European nations carry a lot of historical and technical debt. The decline of both imperialism and monarchy, along with the upheavals of the industrial revolution, created a lot of turbulence. Many countries broke apart or underwent major transformations-some of which are still playing out today. Guess which country I'm from :)
Will the USA as a country in its current form outlive me? Maybe as I'm not particularly young now, but I wouldn't be 100% sure.
The UK itself is one of the oldest countries in the world, if you count England as being part of the UK history. If you do, then some of the Cantons that make up what is now Switzerland are older. Jersey is arguably older (England's history starts when Normandy invaded it, Normandy lost its territory in mainland France and Jersey is what remains). Denmark is a bit older, Japan is undisputedly the oldest.
Can wait for Puerto Rico to gain independence so that we get the .pr domain
@@aliasjon8320 _.pu_ 😈
Old yugoslavia
Decline of imperialism is such a weird thing for me to hear. To this day in my country we're taught history of Europe and not our own. To be fair we do, it's just not really. History in school here is split between history of the world and history of our country. History of the world is just history of Europe, while history of our country starts when Europeans arrived here and is told from their perspective. No locals were left alive to hear from, lmao. History of literature could be boiled down to a bunch of dudes getting inspired by the European art movements at the time and trying to bring it here. To this day a lot of people think Europe is like the birth of human civilization and high culture or something, and a lot of the culture we consume here is either American, Japanese or European. Our music has taken off, but even though I think our cinema is fire it isn't nearly as popular as American movies. I have a heavy suspicion most colonized countries are very similar. I'm from Brazil btw
They could transfer control of .io over to France. We do have our own autonomous "French Indian Ocean Territory" set of Islands which could claim this ccTLD (en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scattered_Islands_in_the_Indian_Ocean).
afaik it's not a single political territory, so therefore there's not an ISO standard for it (one of these territories is the French Southern and Antarctic Lands with TF as the ISO 2-letter code)
@@lakelimbo It was a joke, and you are completely right. But just to annoy the British, I would love to split TAAF in two ^^. Plus, it's welcomed money given the current budget crisis :p (let ignore it is millions vs billions).
This is a rush because they didn’t get rid of .SU assigned to the USSR. It still exists. And a lot of people are furious they never got rid of it.
buy your io domain while you can so it's vintage!
Many people don't know this, but you should have a presence/business in the country with a specific ccTLD to follow the requirements for domain ownership. It is often overlooked because of money, but Twitch can lose the domain if Tuvalu decides not to approve the renewal request. Their rules also exist for other gTLD, like .bio, which needs to be somehow related to ecology.
Remember, domains are rented, not owned. The land is somewhat this way, too-the government can get your land back if it is for the public good, like a highway, park, military base, or something (it is pretty complicated, though). You don't even need to be compensated for this; I heard about situations (in my European country) where the city plan was changed from building plots to public greenery, and you have only 30 days to dispute that; otherwise gg, you lost almost all the value.
Yeah I went through the .au registration stuff a little while ago. Its a classic case of both sides being dumb - people not paying attention to the risk and the country taking advantage of a cash grab.
This is mostly right, but it's not that you must have a business presence or whatever to register a domain from a country, rather it's that you have to follow the rules of the country's registrar, some of which have that requirement. The Australian one that another commenter refers to not only requires that you have some presence in that country, but also that you have a claim to the name (e.g. trademark, registered business name etc.)
This clearly is the country's decision, not the standard bearer.
tk, cc, gg, and other small countries cared more about the income for the hacks than stupid local presence that iNanny can't enforce.
as an anarchist, I am amused by the claim that the government has more of a right to my land than... you know, me
@@FourOf92000 the only validity a right can have comes from communal recognition. this is why anarchy is so stupid because anarchy means might makes right, which in turn means that anarchy only exists as an interim period in so far as the largest organization hasn't yet consolidated power.
you live in an anarchical society right now wherein the government is just the largest group of people enforcing their rights upon the people. congrats i guess, you're living your dream.
When the UK pretended to leave te EU, UK businesses without an EU address lost access to the eu domain.
If you hung your hat on EU domains based on politics that's kind of dumb.
Others make for interesting and novel names, but I would stick to generic international ones personally.
wdym by "pretended"? The UK is legally not part of the EU anymore, even if it's still in Europe. Whether it was a good decision is a different conversation.
@@SKAOG21also uk businesses did not lose access to .eu.
@@SKAOG21 He might mean it in that the UK still makes itself subject to many EU rules, despite no longer formally being under that jurisdiction.
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Domain servers can simply refuse to de-propagate the domains. Problem solved. That's what they SHOULD do. Removing them is actual theft, as people paid money to BUY those domains.
they could get free migration to .iou or whoever else that offers to house them
Rent*
@@HUEHUEUHEPony Okay, sure technically you're renting it as if you let it lapse, anyone can buy it. But as long as you continue to renew it, you essentially own it.
Personally, I believe refusing to let a business that has sunk millions into building a domains value renew it is unethical at best. At worst, grounds for a massive lawsuit.
13:33 Just a heads up if you buy a domain just to have it first and then re-sell it you will face incredibly high fines if you live in the EU, I know it seems smart but don't, you'll ruin your life
Really, the EU outlawed this? That's awesome! Domain parking sucks worse than a tick.
But how will they know that you bought it 'just to have it first'? You could put a personal website on it for a year, then sell...
@@zitronekoma30 EU with their regulatory overreach as always.
@@paulthomann5544 The EU itself sucks worse than a tick
@@massimo4307 this is totally reasonable idk what you're on about
Rip. Just bought one 😅
Time to gamble on domains!
@@Kane0123What a time to be alive 😂
Same here, just grabbed one last month. 🤦♂️
Same. I bought one for a project I’m working and hope someone can figure something out because I like my domain.
Same lol. I had tens of domains, and this was my first IO in my life last month... never felt so cursed.
btw: floppy 3½ @ 1.44MB was released in 1987, quite some time after 5¼.
When he said "big floppies" I thought 8".
@@ArthurGreen-bw3sb ah. the 8" was the first floppy to be released, some time in the late 60s. the commonly available size was 80kb. (later versions of the 8" stored more data, up to 1.2MB even, but i think the more modern formats were more commonly used.)
5 1/4 was pretty ubiquitous by that point, and is small enough to hide in a purse or inside of clothing.
It's also possible that they just sent the stolen data via FTP, which comes with the added bonus that there was nothing for anyone else to steal from them if they were mugged on the way home, and no evidence for police or anyone else to use against them
Im talking to the void but I really appreciate that when you're reading out loud you make mistakes. When I do it in my head I make mistakes. I have dyslexia, but normally focusing slowly on the sentence helps. You're faster than anyone in vim, and coding out what's in your mind, but static strings.. Go slow bro. It's not for us, but for you. Read articles like you read code, each weird expression matters.
You're helping people more than most universities, I hope I'm not coming across rude to try help you I return. Slow and steady.
Thanks Flip for keeping all of these mah-raw-tius
In 1994 we did not have generic/novelty domains. Now ICANN/IANA can just shut down .io as the country code TLD and immediately reopen it as a generic TLD. Why are they so against doing it? Why is it bureaucratically impossible? It's a semantic change. It's the meaning behind a string of characters that matters.
I think that's exactly what's gonna happen
Does that mean we can have .JS ?
@@natescode Now you just want to watch the world burn.
@@natescode or .wp for that matter XD
gTLD’s cannot be 2 characters
9:42 - "The files are INSIDE the computer!"
Why was Britain allowed to operate more than one domain, but Mauritius may not? Just give them the IO domain, they own the islands after all.
But they're not called the Indian Ocean. The writer is presuming they will want their own domain (they'd be stupid to want it, but...)
@@DxBlack Britain wasn't called the Indian Ocean either...
@@awdsqe123 The political entity known as Chagos archipelago is formally known as "British Indian Ocean Territory" (BIOT), which is where the "io" comes from. It is not part of the UK, and is politically distinct, just like Guernsey, Jersey, Anguilla etc. with their own governments, which is why they are recognised in the ISO list of countries and territories.
because Mauritius is not a real country and has no military power
I'm not Serbian, but I sometimes work on systems at a Serbian company which exists for a long time now, their internal DNS structure is still based on .yu :) all of their internal domain names end in .yu, even their brand new servers are assigned .yu DNS. I assume this is true for many of their older IT related companies.
Why would you care who owns the top-level domain ? as long as they keep existing and you can still conduct business.
The .eu ccTLD was approved by ICANN on 22 March 2005[6] and put in the Internet root zone on 2 May 2005.[7] Even though the EU is not a country (it is a sui generis intergovernmental and supranational organisation), it has an exceptional reservation in ISO 3166. The Commission and ICANN had extended negotiations lasting more than five years to secure its acceptance.[8]
The more I watch these clips the more I feel like Primeagen is just the Asmongold for the people who are employed.
The internet domains are not determined by borders. While governments usually have their country code it ISN'T required. .io is not going away.
I can see Mauritius renaming themselves just to keep the .io domain instead of their old .mu one
yeah if they're smart they do this
They'll rename to Ionia, just to f*** with Greece
Can't they just create an autonomous region that governs effectively no one to retain the name? The only link they have to the territory is colonization anyway.
I can see Mauritius renaming themselves just to stop all the TH-camrs butchering the name 😂
@@Y2B123 Well yes I suppose they can decide to retain the status for the most part which would make ISO keep the IO handle for them
The island of More Issues.
Ha, remember when the US military said they would leave their lease on Hawaii? That totally happened.
"The UK is letting go of a lot of territories"
Yeah, like the UK itself.
Slovakia mentioned, Let's Go !
Czechoslovakia too! 😂
Maybe they'll allow it to be renewed on the condition that it is temporary, used purely to redirect to the new domain with some news posted on that new domain home page indicating the name change.
Yugoslavia mentioned :D
The Islands are going to Mauritius, so the domain will likely also go to Mauritius, legal successor and everything. Or, arguably, they never left Mauritian sovereignty the UK just occupied them. Things don't just get orphaned in international law.
I think the problem with that is that it's getting incorporated into Mauritius, while under the UK it was a somewhat independent entity. Crown Territories sort of thing, versus literally just being another bit of country.
I really hope they don't break the standard.
The Union might have fallen, but its resemblance lives in our -hearts- address bar forever
Soviet union?
Fk union, glad it fallen
"It happened twice in the nineties, therefore it's super common."
Hong Kong felt great after being released from UK rule. RIght?
Nothing could possibly go wrong!
How's Rhodesia doing, these days?
Mor-ah-tee-us 😂 You Americans are absolutely wild
😂
No, that's a him issue because he wanted to sound silly (idiot) for the video. He knows he can go to Google for the pronunciation.
@@DxBlack Goodness me, I bet you’re always fairly close to the bottom of BBQ invitation lists 😂 It’s just a bit of light hearted fun, don’t take it too seriously
Muh Riches
Moore Rishus
This a very serious example of : do not use something for what it is not meant. Like, don't buy site on country codes if you intend to convey a commercial intention
if the rule is stupid, it's not going to be followed
Everyone: "how about I do anyway"
Profit ensues
@@f0kes32 i believe iana are also the one terminating the top level domaines, so you would have no saying in it
@@viliml2763 if your building anything serious, i can assure you would mind. Of course if you only care for immediate profit you're right
@@orzhovthief no it's the domain servers who really control the situation. They could just disobey. And if they do nothing, we can create a parallel DNS with our own rules
The Soviet Union TLD still exists. Why would this one be removed if that one wasn't?
The article brings that up. The answer is, somewhat ironically, "Because the Soviet Union one still exists."
Big Choggus Islands should have the rights to the domain
I don't want to google that...
So people forgot that geopolitics still exits hum, how would guess
Ah I'm glad the last 90seconds of the video are in there. The global internet only really exists because of a bunch of agreements that are honored by most participants. Imagine what it would mean to this network of agreements if IANA decided that Google and a bunch of startups are important enough to break the agreements over while entire nations werent.
Agreed. That'd lead to really dumb domains like ".zip"...
@@Kane0123three+ letter domains are free for all - so you long as you have ~400k to give to ICANN
You don’t know floppies until you’ve had to work with 8 inch floppies.
Most floppies don't have nearly that much stature
8 inch floppy is impressive ngl
SU domain is still sometimes used in Russia.
I thought IO stands for "Input" "Output". 🙂
I would expect Mauritius would take it over, if the USSR's CcTLD is allowed to still be around IO should be too.
What an interesting article.
This was what annoyed me when I was looking into ICANN and Domain Names
Why? 2 letters for countries and everything else mostly fair game sounds like a good compromise. Especially so as the 2 letters (mostly) come from an external standard. Just think about the ruckus .amazon caused ... Pissed off half of South America ...
nah just the Amazon / Brazilian folks ;)
way more than half the area but very little population (within the Amazon itself)
Before watching the video: This sounds stupid.
After watching the video: Ok, perfectly reasonable to uphold your standards.
.su is still around for the Soviet Union.
In .su, domain registers you.
It is still partially used for some university networks operated by RAS, interestingly.
Yeah and it was meant to be retired
There is no way mauritius leaves all that money on thw table. They surely will just keep the io domain
I think it’s more if they can convince ICAN to allow them to
I think chances are Google will apply for ownership of IO and pay a couple million dollars and do a rebrand of its expansion, then offer it through Google Domains.
Google Domains doesn't exist anymore. It was sold to Squarespace.
Thank god a minute into the video your opinion matched mine.
Hello professor dr. The prime time
Me doing IO in the bathroom while watching this:
Nice Prime! You pronounced Mauritius right on the second try without help!
I did not expect Prime to make me realize I need new business cards
Him pronouncing Mauritius wrong everytime is killing me 😭
His pronouncing has killed a couple of people. You are not alone!
Theo didn't do any better. Only those that know how to pronounce it, will
How hard would it be to convert this ccTLD to a generic TLD... Literally nobody on that territory could even afford a domain name.
never been this early to prime's vid
I can imagine a South Park episode where all the leaders of tech starts lobbying for the British to keep the country just for .io to exist.
Someone’s gonna start a new country with IO initials
I mean, it's very much doable. There were some guys who made a country on an abandoned oil rig, it was a pretty good business idea, but nobody treated them seriously. Still it CAN be done, as again - the Io domains are worth millions of dollars. The only question is will they give it to them, since the point of the country code domains is to make it clear who governs and executes the law
I would not worry about .io. See, the .yt top level domain should have ceased to exist after Mayotte became overseas department of France in 2011. But you can still register domains in .yt.
And why is there no .yo top level domain, yo?
Just make it a gTLD instead of a ccTLD. Problem solved.
btw you can register your own whole-ass gTLD if you have like 180-200k to burn and the supporting infra available😊
But it's two letters tho !
@@moussaadem7933I’m just imagining a bunch of tech companies about to start a war over this 😂
say Mou-RI-ti-us, the "ou" as in the word "our"
also, my first PC I bought in 1990 had a 3.5" disk 1.44MB drive and a 5 1/4" floppy drive of 1.2MB, with a 42 MB hard drive (Seagate ST157a). so if it was at any point "military" it will have been before that.
5:50 Czech Republic mentioned
whoa, are you saying the KGBVAX domain is at risk if Putin's regime falls apart??
The poor, poor VAX user (not a plural) that remains in the KGBVAX network is going to feel soooo alone. I mean, MORE alone.
Ma, may, mah-raw-tius
Prime having a difficult time with Mauritius...
I don't think it's the same case as .yu because multiple parties aren't fighting over it. Also since UK already had multiple domains by having io and uk I don't see why Mauritius can't have decalre a Mauritius Island(s) of Indian Ocean. I do agree they're not going make an exception if Mauritius doesn't keep it a seperate territory some how. But from my understanding people of Mauritius wanted the home they were literally pushed out of back from the UK so maybe they won't care how much money the domain makes.
oh my god, that's so good
Hearing you pronounce Mauritius is just so funny 😂.
I don't get it, they already have .mu domain for Mauritius.
I had a company there because of there low tax rate so I had go through all that domain stuff.
Algoexpert guy punching air right now
I thought of this the very moment I heard of the transfer.
From what I read, the most likely scenario is that mauritius will strike some kind of deal with the company that currently administers the io tld. For everyone except that company, this will be a complete nothingburger.
How am I gonna scratch my itch now?
Looks like we need to fire AlterNIC back up!
Good riddance. While .io tld is kinda cool on its own I've never really liked it due to the ownership of .io tld and handling of Chagos Archipelago, especially Diego Garcia island and expulsion of its inhabitants. If the ownership is handed to authority that is acceptable to refugees coming from Diego Garcia I'll put it on the list of tld's I might consider, assuming the .io tld survives.
Overall if/once handover of the territory is done and refugees are able to return to Diego Garcia it would be nice if the tld will be handled to somewhat similarly to .su tld (but with actual conditions to set for it without ambiguity)
Oh yeah? you're so cool bro.
Those two things are completely unrelated....
@@hastyscorpion I don't see it that way though. Sure if I look at it from different perspective and ask if Paul Kane and later Afilias and Donuts have anything to do with what US and UK did to people living at Diego Garcia yeah the answer would be that they had nothing to do with it, sure. However this is something that could have been changed by UK at any point within last 50, 60 years, but they didn't which is why I personally find the current situation something I cannot accept and through that all find it distasteful to put money into .io tld which is to a point tied to affected territory.
they still won't be going back to Diego Garcia - at least not for 99 years; apparently, they will be going to one or both of the only other islands that were inhabited - about 200 km north of Diego Garcia.
fascinating 🤔🧐🙏
I live in Serbia and I was not aware of all this fuss around .yu domains.
The Indian Ocean domain ownership should be divided up amongst the 47 countries that are surrounded by it (islands)/have coastline nautical borders extending into it . These countries are distributed between the continents of Asia , africa and oceania.
This is why we need to have our own democratic domain name zone independent of ICANN
let just the big boys make a country named inputoutput it's easy as that
me after stealing .yu: flipping that floppy metal cover
It's pronounced: Mar-ich-e-eus (roughly, not sure how do the last consonant in text)
EDIT: NVM, I see he got help on the pronunciation 🙂
I mean the answer is that all these companies get together and buy some land and make a country...
They can create a three letters replacement and offer free moving to it …
su domain stillalive till this day, though domains ain't not that many
0:45 I would not worry too much. Soviet union went under in 1992. Yet, there are still .su domains. You can even get one if you are so inclined and have a Russian passport, or know someone with a Russian passport.
Finish the article/video.
Why would it be named after the ocean and not the island? Is there not a 1-letter designation for ocean domains?
The official country name is British Indian Ocean Territories.
Also, what domain could you make out of Chagos Island?
ch is Switzerland, ca is Canada, cg is Congo, co is Colombia, ci is Côte d'Ivoire (Ivory Coast).
@@katrinabryce I thought sovereignty was granted to the islands, why would they keep the old name? It seems when countries are created, they adopt new names. This seems like there are still plenty of options/decisions available.
The original population was forceably moved to Mauritius in '65. Current inhabitant is "the Military" (UK and US nationals). Before '65 the islands were part of Mauritius and now they are given back to Mauritius.
Does that mean the official country is now Mauritius? Why wouldn’t the country domain be .mu then?
That would be the direct result, yes. .io ceases to exist and genuinely local registrations would move from .io to .mu. I don't think there are any, though. But with all the money that is at play here, I have no idea what the end result will be. I mean regarding .amazon, the ICANN ignored South American objections and allowed Amazon to register that brand gTLD.
Let them just make it stand for input/output from now on instead of a country.
Too many large companies use it.
I can't imagine a world where not a single one is willing to sponsor it as a generic TLD to avoid having to completely restructure their identity and internet presence
Two letter domains cannot be generic from what I understand
Moreshuss 😂😂😂😂😂😂 come on man
New Zealand mentioned