I knew Em was feeling a way about Kendrick’s success and being called the King of rap when he dropped Houdini in the middle of the rap beef between Drake and K Dot. Now that he can’t stop Kendrick’s momentum his next release is “Tobey” which is the slave name Toby used for Kunta Kinte. Kendrick got a song name King Kunta. He want to go against Kendrick because he’s mad Kendrick was put in the top 5 and is now ranked higher than him. Wow wow wow
Dr. Dre already said Eminem is the greatest rapper of all time in his opinion. Said it on Big Boy radio interview. So that speaks volumes coming from Dre
You got this kinda wrong. Jay-Z is in charge of the Halftime shows. He needs to make it amazing to look good. Jay did want Eminem, he has beef with 50 and only allowed 50 because Eminem said he is only willing to do it if he can bring 50. This wasn’t just about LA people at the Super Bowl, it was celebrating Dr.Dre! Dre is responsible for the success of everyone who performed at that Super Bowl. He made the beat for “Family Affair” and other Mary J. Blige songs. That’s why Kendrick’s dancers had on sashes that said “Dre Day.” And Jay is jealous/territorial about any artist who competes with his numbers and Success. He went above and Beyond to help Kanye (his Artist) to beat 50 at their sales battle. Jay and Kanye made “Watch The Throne,” to try to beat Drake’s sales. Eminem is just having Big Sean’s back because they’re both from Detroit. Big Sean carried Kanye’s label without the recognition and credit he deserves, I think Kanye was threatened by him. He owes Big Sean millions of dollars. Literally, Sean audited his label. He writes his own bars and Kanye’s too. Eminem is just like any other MC, he thinks he is the best. Em said in his diss track to Melly Mel “Being White is not why I’m top 5, it’s why I can’t be #1!” He is right, and I think it frustrates him because he is a great lyricist, and respects the culture. He is more woke and revolutionary than Drake! He spoke out against Trump, and got backlash from his White fans. He wrote a whole political album. He took a knee at the Super Bowl in solidarity with Black NFL players, even though he was told not to. Em is not the typical “White rapper,” he deserves respect! If Em’s beats were wack, that’s an insult to Dr. Dre not Em. Black people have more of a problem with Em’s fans than Em…and that Billboard is old before the battle…Melly Mel doesn’t like Em solely because he is White, he deserves those disses from Em! Em and Kendrick are both signed to Aftermath Records by Dr. Dre. That’s why Kendrick said “I’ll diss Melly Mel if I have too.” You got a lot of this wrong. Em supports Kendrick and said he is better than him. Jay has writers, and Beanie Siegel helped him write his disses to Nas. He is still a good writer, but Em doesn’t use writers for his bars or disses.
Stop it😂m can never be #1because he ain’t got it like that😅his music does not have the test of time.his music actually sounds lame now,but I’ll let u stay in ya feelings 😂
@@bottomuptv9836 Wow, you are very ignorant and disrespectful. You need to research better. Most rappers even disagree with you. Are you assuming that I am an Em Stan? I’m not. But I believe in responsible and accurate reporting. My favorite rapper is Kendrick actually. Em is not my personal taste often, but not liking a rapper personally is not the same as factually stating their “rank” and contributions.
@@AS-of1cs Oh yes, I love quotes from people who actually know about a subject: Kendrick: “Insane grammatical genius.” Radio Host: “Bar for bar, is Eminem the greatest to you?” Kendrick: “Oh yeah. I don’t think no one is matching Eminem.” "Eminem is probably one of the best wordsmiths ever. There's a whole list of why, but just bending words… The Marshall Mathers LP changed my life." - Kendrick “You could listen to my whole album and see that it pays homage in my cadence and my flow [to Eminem]… When I have that aggression in the record like that [on ‘Backseat Freestyle’], that’s tricks that I learned being in that studio and dedicating myself; being a student. Eminem was definitely a sought-out player that I always respected and looked up to.” - Kendrick
@@its_just_me_acb I don't give a rats azz what Kendrick Lamar thinks about Em as a rapper. I' grew up in hip hop culture as it was evolving and Em was trash to me in 90s and is trash to me in 2024. So you posted all that for what? In my hood, we not rocking his shyt on anything, no clubs, kickbacks, brunches, day parties, BBQs, cookouts tailgating, nothing. Em shyt is not requested and never has been. No body is saying "Yo play that new Em that dropped" where I'm from And yes Kendrick Lamar actually diss big Sean saying "cute azz raps, get your puberty up" on a unreleased song while signed to TDE. So move on fan boy. You thought you ate with them quotes, huh?
@@its_just_me_acb just looked at that profile, I should have known it was a YT responding not understanding context of my comment. Next time you step your azz under a comment in a space you're a guest in, you better ask for clarification of that comment. Posting quotes as if I give two shyts what Kendrick Lamar thinks of Em. He's trash and will always be a trash rapper to me.
This is what happens when you invite “them” to the cookout they always wanna take over and claim it as “theirs”. Now Em thinks he’s the greatest of all time. FOH 🙄
Killing feature dont mean you a better then a artist papoose will kill anyone on a feature his catalog still ain’t better then most this killing a feature shit needs to be debunked cause ppl go to far with tons of them battle rappers can kill verses way better then music artist but they can’t make music 😂lol
Yeah. Why couldn’t this bozo call it “Tobey McGuire”? He called it “Tobey” to take a shot at “King Kunta” kinda cowardly to take a shot at someone that JUST got done battling. Kendrick will respond in due time.
Because that’s a mouthful. He spelled it the way McGuire spells it, not the roots character. Gosh, now we have conspiracy theories even in music. What you’re doing is called slander. You can’t just claim someone’s thought process.
Eminem's Houdini record has over 100 million views. And that was without any beef to boost numbers. Kendrick needed beef with the biggest rapper the world (Drake) to get a hit. Not to mention using bots to boost the streaming.😂His last album after 5 yesrs just came and went. Without Drake nobody would be talking about Kendrick. He is not on Em's lvl not even close 😂😂😂
@@chinuamatthews2204 it's always wild to me to hear people who claim that Eminem is the king of a black genre totally ignore things like him being a part of the dominant society it's literally Jesse Elvis effect. This country is 70% White not to mention the world as a whole has been entrenched with white westernized ideals what's good. Eminem mix music for people who say I usually don't listen to rap but Eminem is good I guess he has the casual white rap fan . That wouldn't listen to any other artist if he didn't exist .. my grandmother told me there was a time when in America when race music was becoming too popular with white teenagers so they could not get the white teenagers to stop listening or going to see the Chuck Berry's in the Little Richard so you have to fight fire with fire they had to come up with a white man that could do race music and at the very least curtail what look to them like very improper idolization of black artists enter Roy Hamilton and Otis Blackwell in Elvis's whole sound was created. Pat Boone could not get it done even though he made the money he did not sway the masses of white teenagers away from Little Richard. Eminems success is a given. In all honesty it's like Tech9ine having that success. But like I said at the end of the day of course he is he was supposed to be wouldn't matter if anyone felt like there were others better than him. He really came out with the blonde hair and a colored eyes that was perfect
@@chinuamatthews2204I hate when people who are obviously not really of the Hip Hop culture speak on Hip Hop culture. Kendrick didn’t need Drake to be relevant. He’s always relevant when he drops anything. You casual fans make me sick.
@@brianholmes7247 my arguement wasnt that Kendrick isnt relevant. He is obviously going to have people be interested in what he puts out regardless. But the only reason why he is going viral is because of Drake end of. The only reason why he has a hit atm is because of Drake and you can't deny that. MMATBS came out after 5 years of anticipation and not one song on that project gathered this much attention. Compare that to Eminem who was able to drop a music video with over 100 million views without a major beef to boost record sales.
I got Kendrick over all of em. Performance wise, vocal inflection wise, album discography wise, production wise, substance wise. 💯💯💯 What was your first Hip Hop memory and what was the first Hip Hop music you ever purchased?
It wouldn't be smart for M to even take a shot at Kdot right now, but I wouldn't be surprised because Drake is down so they'll bring him back to back to change the tide.
Eminem don’t bang with us like that, his daughters are raised them super proper. Distance himself from D-12 and reunited with Royce because he needed the energy again.
He don’t rock with us cause he didn’t raised his daughters in hip hop who3 culture 😂 you upset cause you won’t here about Haley getting passed around 😂 what you expect he’s a whyt boy 🤷🏾♂️
FACTS 🔥🔥🔥🔥 Game may have his fits and shyt but when it come to the mic? A STR8 CHAOTIC BEAST BLOOD THIRST SAVAGE... Eminem knows this he didn’t wanna entertain it alright. You can come at pop stars and shyt but not a raw rapper/emcee. Em been a joke never was the same since the mid 2000’s.
Dude it’s spelled Tobey!! not as in the movie roots! It’s just a play on words as in Tobey McGuire getting bit by a spider becoming spiderman, and Jay asked Em to do the sb Em said he wouldn’t do it without 50! You reaching guy
I have never been the em type i can't relate to him our culture is blessed with way too many nice emcees when we embrace outsiders they become the em's, justin Bieber, Elvis's
Funny how JZ and K-Dot are balling and Sean and M careers are over, I guess M needs to hook up with Dre 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂 but it seems like Dre has forgotten his ass 😂😂😂😂😂
The way you described Eminem rap style is hilariously true . I mean he's not the worst but when I first heard him back in the day on a few tracks I knew he had some serious issues . Potential to be a serial / cereal/ sociopathic type vibe . His imagination and expression of words back in the day could have created a few seriously twisted horror flicks !!! It's like he said what's the most shocking worst things I can put on this track to show them how dark my mind can be !!! 🙈😂😮
This is a cool song and they’re rhyming but WE DONT CARE 🤷🏾♂️. I like Big Sean a lot but I’m not interested in hearing a back & forth with him & Kendrick right now. As for Eminem 🥱 🥱🥱
In music, beats 1 and 3 can refer to the downbeat, which is the first and strongest beat of a measure. Some percussion-based musicians may also refer to beats 2 and 4 as the upbeat, which is the weakest and last beat of a measure.
@@kennethcook3127 Right, she left her ex husband to do it instead bc she didn’t want to get her hands or image dirtier. Saying he’s a clown for responding to a song about him is nonsensical.
Big Sean and em both need to sit down. Sean ain’t messing knot, and em ain’t messing with nobody outside of Mariah, yellawolf, nick cannon, mgk, Christina Aguilera. Those the only people he taking out
em has always been trash. Jay will never acknowledge this dude. Jay understands the business & knows what a em is, knows how they manufacture his sales & views ( I guarantee if you ask 50 random people if they heard em new song the answer is no. The same goes with his albums. there is a reason why em has to have big numbers). em poses no threat to a jay z. it’s hard to beef with a guy who writes for your boss & has more money & resources than your entire crew put together. Jay won’t acknowledge this dude until he says jay z name & comes at jay. unlike em, jay has been in real battles & jay would crush em. He can’t play industry games with a jay z. nas & jay are two mc’s who would destroy em.em isn’t ahead of pac, nas, jay or kendrick. or ll or slick rick, or biggie, or scarface or prodigy or raskass or jada. This clown em needs to get put in his place. I hope nas responds, & recently he ducked game.
I don’t get how yall find big Sean’s voice to be annoying but not Kendrick’s inflections (I don’t but I’m just making an example) Sean don’t have a deep voice but he got a solid cadence since dark sky paradise
The way Papoose destroyed Big Sean was humiliating. Big Sean better not ever call out or take jabs at anyone because he got decimated in that diss song.
I AM LISTENING AND WATCHING EVERYTHING. JAY HAS NOTHING 2 SAY AND OFFER THE BLACK COMMUNITY. KDOT & EMENIM ARE A EVEN EXCHANGE FOR WHITE AND BLACK PEOPLE WHO LOVE HIP HOP. BIG SEAN IS A HYPE MAN AND FAN OF THE MUSIC.
There was a freestyle with Big Sean back when Like That came out and he was taking a shot at the big three. Though it didn’t get any attention those few months ago because more people were focused on Drake or J Cole vs Kendrick and was kept out of the conversation. Although is said Big Sean and Kendrick patched it up. I do feel there was part of Big Sean who felt he had unfinished business with Kendrick in this battle. it said that the feud was reignited again with Big Sean and Kendrick when Kendrick dropped that leaked the original version of Elements which I feel was more intended towards Drake because of some of the shots he had on Kendrick on for all my dogs album. They call Kendrick Petty Pendergrass so he might’ve been sending a message to Big Sean and others to warn them not to poke a bear and get in a battle with him. Although I would’ve liked to seen a battle with Big Sean and Kendrick there is part of me that feels it wouldn’t have favored well for Big Sean especially right now because Kendrick has all this momentum and popularity, especially with destroying Drake and even if he has a diss that can compete and be damaging to Kendrick I don’t know if the mass public would perceive it that way. Kendrick has a much larger fan base and to me his fanbase is very similar to Eminem’s Where they’ll defend him and treat every record he does like it was the greatest thing ever made even if it’s terrible. When it comes to a battle with Big Sean and Kendrick, I do not think Kendrick’s fan base could really look past their bias and look at it from a musical standpoint so I somewhat feel for Big Sean that it may be a little pointless to straight up diss Kendrick. I think of Big Sean‘s gonna wanna go to Kendrick I think one they have to wait for this whole Drake versus Kendrick beef to die down and Kendrick is in that zone. Also, I feel that he needs to build back up his relevance even though his last album sold a little over 100,000 its first week, it was actually a decline from his previous album and we haven’t really got anything from Big Sean in the past four years and just going off that I don’t think the people are paying attention to Big Sean at the moment to even think enough of him going at Kendrick. Still we shall see.
Bro, Tobey was Not Bad. HIS MUSLIM NAME IS KUNTA KENTA. MANDINGO WARRIOR. SLAVE MASTER NAMED HIM TOBEY AND TOLD HIM HE COULD NOT WORSHIP ALLAH . THAT IS WHY HE WAS BEING BEATEN IN THAT FAMOUS SCENE. HE WOULD NOT SUBMIT UNTIL HE HAD NO CHOICE BUT TO SUBMIT To SLAVEMASTERS RELIGION. HE KEPT TRYING TO ESCAPE AND THEY CUT OFF HIS FOOT.
Until Kendrick makes a song like Rap God , he’s not seeing Em 🙅🏽♂️ not happening… first of all if Kendrick would have battled Tory Lanez , Tory would of smoke 💨 him
For the Em haters, when you get to the part about Em stealing children with fathers, that’s just slander. I don’t know why people need to lie if they have enough support for their hate. Nate was removed from the home, no dad around. Whitney’s dad died. Alaina was raised with Hailie, basically her sister, by Marshall and Kim most of her life, living with them from birth until her mom died no matter where they lived, no dad in sight to help. Kim went to prison. Marshall was left with the girls and stepped up. It says a lot about someone’s motives when they hate on a person for taking in kids without parents and making up claims about it being because he wanted to steal them or bc he smoke too much weed to have more kids. Credibility is lost. That goes for the Tobey title claims too.
@@Artislife1992 Not really. But I do respect Marshall for saving 3 kids and breaking generational abuse cycles bc I’m a product myself of broken cycles like those kids and I do have a problem with people who lie to spread hate. You can dislike someone and still not lie about them to stir up more controversy. If you can’t separate defending the truth and being a crazed fan, then your own ethics and integrity are in question.
"Big Sean keeps sneak dissing i let it slide, i think his false confidence got him inspired" - Kdot 👀 It's clear Em has run out of content to be complaining about a billboard list. I think LL Cool J should make the same complaints then cuz he washed Em on a track but ranked 9 spots lower than him.
Eminem is the Goat all races from Gen X knew that we all paid Homage from all the best most respected emcees on Anyone who dont think so has mental issues or his racist
Rhakim,NassBDK,,2Pac ,LL CoolJ, Ice Cube,Scarface,GRap, Beenie Seigel,Biggie, AZ, Jadakiss, are better then em ,to objectively select a few . JCole as well.
r yall crazy? i can name 10 rappers right now who better than m. not even saying all these are top ten. but certainly saying m is not top ten. first of all u said ll cool j yourself, (and these are in no particular order), andre 300, k-dot, jayz, biggie, nas, tupac, lupe fiasco, lil wayne, mos def, easy e, common, dmx, plus a nicca i know from around the way. so thats 13 + 1. you have to knock off 4 of those before u can put m in the top 10. and thats just off the dome and no research and additional analysis. I know there is more. But you cannot find 4 people on that list that m is better than. remember rap as an art is different from rap as a business. thats y they have other categories such as best selling of all time. all that is business stuff and can be manipulated by money. but as far as the art it self, which people who never make it in the business are still better than most who do, he is no where close to the top 10.
Like I've said in my recent livestream on this ... f Eminem feels ENTITLED, as he felt ENTITLED to having 5 Mikes from the Source, although he was still, pretty much, "brand new", and the message in his lyrics didn't relate to the core, hip hop audience.
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I knew Em was feeling a way about Kendrick’s success and being called the King of rap when he dropped Houdini in the middle of the rap beef between Drake and K Dot. Now that he can’t stop Kendrick’s momentum his next release is “Tobey” which is the slave name Toby used for Kunta Kinte. Kendrick got a song name King Kunta. He want to go against Kendrick because he’s mad Kendrick was put in the top 5 and is now ranked higher than him. Wow wow wow
I 🙏 he don't want Kendrick smoke
I got Kendrick over them all
Mr prison of the moment
No over Eminem and LL. Damn sure not 2pac.
@@east00 definitely not pac
@@FreeTheMennDarklo kole would beat kendrick bro
@@MrHatcher5 you can’t be serious
Eminem dissing blacks with a song called “Tobey”? See this what happened when y’all let them in
Hello!
Fr tho
Dr Dre invited him to the cookout what a big mistake😮, like the late John Henry Clark said we have no friends, Our people (FBA) keep forgetting that
@@reggyburnett9029 how was it a mistake to invite em 🤔 he put on more rappers than your favs all black rappers too
B1!
@@MrHatcher5 you'll probably say the same thing about Elvis Presley and rock and roll doing those times in the fifties
Dre purposely sold the game
@@reggyburnett9029 dre saved his career
That’s the children of the corn for you. I’m not surprised.
😂😂😂😂😂
Facts was waiting for Em to start with the nonsense he not like us !
Em not calling Jay no damn Toby 😂😂😂 also Big Sean recorded this song later last year with babytron he and dot been fine for some years now
@@romaretaylor9953 💯💯💯
Yeah, I think people are reaching with these theories.
*Eminem jealous Kendrick getting all Dr Dre attention*
Dr. Dre already said Eminem is the greatest rapper of all time in his opinion. Said it on Big Boy radio interview. So that speaks volumes coming from Dre
I never considered that. Makes a lot of sense now
@@TIKI-LEGACY eminem is not even netter than bizarre stop it lmao
@@joaopaulo-tz5rvnobody believes that except you. Troll better next time
@@romaretaylor9953 he is as good as Eminem
LL Cool J is The Personification of Bars
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You got this kinda wrong. Jay-Z is in charge of the Halftime shows. He needs to make it amazing to look good. Jay did want Eminem, he has beef with 50 and only allowed 50 because Eminem said he is only willing to do it if he can bring 50. This wasn’t just about LA people at the Super Bowl, it was celebrating Dr.Dre! Dre is responsible for the success of everyone who performed at that Super Bowl. He made the beat for “Family Affair” and other Mary J. Blige songs. That’s why Kendrick’s dancers had on sashes that said “Dre Day.”
And Jay is jealous/territorial about any artist who competes with his numbers and Success. He went above and Beyond to help Kanye (his Artist) to beat 50 at their sales battle. Jay and Kanye made “Watch The Throne,” to try to beat Drake’s sales.
Eminem is just having Big Sean’s back because they’re both from Detroit. Big Sean carried Kanye’s label without the recognition and credit he deserves, I think Kanye was threatened by him. He owes Big Sean millions of dollars. Literally, Sean audited his label. He writes his own bars and Kanye’s too.
Eminem is just like any other MC, he thinks he is the best. Em said in his diss track to Melly Mel “Being White is not why I’m top 5, it’s why I can’t be #1!” He is right, and I think it frustrates him because he is a great lyricist, and respects the culture. He is more woke and revolutionary than Drake! He spoke out against Trump, and got backlash from his White fans. He wrote a whole political album. He took a knee at the Super Bowl in solidarity with Black NFL players, even though he was told not to. Em is not the typical “White rapper,” he deserves respect! If Em’s beats were wack, that’s an insult to Dr. Dre not Em.
Black people have more of a problem with Em’s fans than Em…and that Billboard is old before the battle…Melly Mel doesn’t like Em solely because he is White, he deserves those disses from Em! Em and Kendrick are both signed to Aftermath Records by Dr. Dre. That’s why Kendrick said “I’ll diss Melly Mel if I have too.” You got a lot of this wrong. Em supports Kendrick and said he is better than him. Jay has writers, and Beanie Siegel helped him write his disses to Nas. He is still a good writer, but Em doesn’t use writers for his bars or disses.
Stop it😂m can never be #1because he ain’t got it like that😅his music does not have the test of time.his music actually sounds lame now,but I’ll let u stay in ya feelings 😂
@@bottomuptv9836 Wow, you are very ignorant and disrespectful. You need to research better. Most rappers even disagree with you. Are you assuming that I am an Em Stan? I’m not. But I believe in responsible and accurate reporting. My favorite rapper is Kendrick actually. Em is not my personal taste often, but not liking a rapper personally is not the same as factually stating their “rank” and contributions.
When tf did Eminem say he murdered Jay on renegade prior to Tobey? stop making shit up
On that track where dissed MGK. Remember Joe Budden called him out on that when he gave that classic rant on Em?
@@bossblck6399 on killshot? What’s the bar?
There’s a reason Em ran out of material when Proof passed…
FACTS
Who he sacrifice
Eminem is not a good rapper. I've never liked his music
Big Sean "cute as raps, need to get his puberty up 😂 " - Kendrick Lamar
@@AS-of1cs Oh yes, I love quotes from people who actually know about a subject:
Kendrick: “Insane grammatical genius.”
Radio Host: “Bar for bar, is Eminem the greatest to you?”
Kendrick: “Oh yeah. I don’t think no one is matching Eminem.”
"Eminem is probably one of the best wordsmiths ever. There's a whole list of why, but just bending words… The Marshall Mathers LP changed my life." - Kendrick
“You could listen to my whole album and see that it pays homage in my cadence and my flow [to Eminem]… When I have that aggression in the record like that [on ‘Backseat Freestyle’], that’s tricks that I learned being in that studio and dedicating myself; being a student. Eminem was definitely a sought-out player that I always respected and looked up to.” - Kendrick
@@its_just_me_acb I don't give a rats azz what Kendrick Lamar thinks about Em as a rapper. I' grew up in hip hop culture as it was evolving and Em was trash to me in 90s and is trash to me in 2024. So you posted all that for what? In my hood, we not rocking his shyt on anything, no clubs, kickbacks, brunches, day parties, BBQs, cookouts tailgating, nothing. Em shyt is not requested and never has been. No body is saying "Yo play that new Em that dropped" where I'm from
And yes Kendrick Lamar actually diss big Sean saying "cute azz raps, get your puberty up" on a unreleased song while signed to TDE. So move on fan boy. You thought you ate with them quotes, huh?
@@its_just_me_acb just looked at that profile, I should have known it was a YT responding not understanding context of my comment. Next time you step your azz under a comment in a space you're a guest in, you better ask for clarification of that comment. Posting quotes as if I give two shyts what Kendrick Lamar thinks of Em. He's trash and will always be a trash rapper to me.
@@AS-of1cs I did understand… I was being sarcastic before using Kendrick for the opposing side. Sorry it flew over your head, racist.
@@AS-of1cs i didn’t think for one second you’d give a f*ck
This is what happens when you invite “them” to the cookout
they always wanna take over and claim it as “theirs”.
Now Em thinks he’s the greatest of all time. FOH 🙄
Exactly! I’m an elder and I have been seeing it for years. Black people don’t learn or see from past experiences.
Killing feature dont mean you a better then a artist papoose will kill anyone on a feature his catalog still ain’t better then most this killing a feature shit needs to be debunked cause ppl go to far with tons of them battle rappers can kill verses way better then music artist but they can’t make music 😂lol
@imperialstats but name one rapper that killed em on a track I can name a rapper who kilt your fav 4 on a track I bet
Royse da 5'9 kill eminem on bad meet evil slim shady album
Em would demolish Jay fast
Drake shouldn't be on no rapper list. Dude is not a real rapper, so why is he on the list. If that's the case, add Chris Brown.
Yes
I'm down with my brother K Dot
Yeah. Why couldn’t this bozo call it “Tobey McGuire”? He called it “Tobey” to take a shot at “King Kunta” kinda cowardly to take a shot at someone that JUST got done battling. Kendrick will respond in due time.
Because that’s a mouthful. He spelled it the way McGuire spells it, not the roots character.
Gosh, now we have conspiracy theories even in music. What you’re doing is called slander. You can’t just claim someone’s thought process.
I feel like Nas is going to respond too
@@italkshyt14 he better not fire at em
@@MrHatcher5he will just wait and watch people gonna turn on Em like drake 😂
@@sorah4576 it would be a mistake
Big sean n Em need to sit tf down
Yes they not like. Us😅
Eminem on aftermath what shots he throw at Kendrick
@quisomad15 em and big sean def not like other rappers🤣 both them be spitting
@@denisebrown5580that song so trash
Em sold more records than kendrick could ever dream of
If I was Kendrick I would ignore both Eminem and Big Sean. Not because I think they're better, but because they are irrelevant and CORNY.
Eminem's Houdini record has over 100 million views. And that was without any beef to boost numbers. Kendrick needed beef with the biggest rapper the world (Drake) to get a hit. Not to mention using bots to boost the streaming.😂His last album after 5 yesrs just came and went. Without Drake nobody would be talking about Kendrick. He is not on Em's lvl not even close 😂😂😂
FACTS…..
@@chinuamatthews2204 it's always wild to me to hear people who claim that Eminem is the king of a black genre totally ignore things like him being a part of the dominant society it's literally Jesse Elvis effect. This country is 70% White not to mention the world as a whole has been entrenched with white westernized ideals what's good. Eminem mix music for people who say I usually don't listen to rap but Eminem is good I guess he has the casual white rap fan . That wouldn't listen to any other artist if he didn't exist .. my grandmother told me there was a time when in America when race music was becoming too popular with white teenagers so they could not get the white teenagers to stop listening or going to see the Chuck Berry's in the Little Richard so you have to fight fire with fire they had to come up with a white man that could do race music and at the very least curtail what look to them like very improper idolization of black artists enter Roy Hamilton and Otis Blackwell in Elvis's whole sound was created. Pat Boone could not get it done even though he made the money he did not sway the masses of white teenagers away from Little Richard. Eminems success is a given. In all honesty it's like Tech9ine having that success. But like I said at the end of the day of course he is he was supposed to be wouldn't matter if anyone felt like there were others better than him. He really came out with the blonde hair and a colored eyes that was perfect
@@chinuamatthews2204I hate when people who are obviously not really of the Hip Hop culture speak on Hip Hop culture. Kendrick didn’t need Drake to be relevant. He’s always relevant when he drops anything. You casual fans make me sick.
@@brianholmes7247 my arguement wasnt that Kendrick isnt relevant. He is obviously going to have people be interested in what he puts out regardless. But the only reason why he is going viral is because of Drake end of. The only reason why he has a hit atm is because of Drake and you can't deny that. MMATBS came out after 5 years of anticipation and not one song on that project gathered this much attention. Compare that to Eminem who was able to drop a music video with over 100 million views without a major beef to boost record sales.
Nas stated it first with Ether!
It doesn't matter. It don't mean people outside of culture can use what Nas say to try to steal the culture. Plain and simple
I got Kendrick over all of em. Performance wise, vocal inflection wise, album discography wise, production wise, substance wise. 💯💯💯
What was your first Hip Hop memory and what was the first Hip Hop music you ever purchased?
Run, Houdini $LL
@@Artislife1992 u haven't seen techn9ne huh
@@MrHatcher5 He took TDE on they first tour I believe. Are you saying his discography and song making is on Kendrick’s level?
You just sucked the soul out of kendrick with this post my boy
@@B.Piercesportsgot a OVHOE over here. Beat it like Mick Jack.
So u telling me Toby is really like the black suit Spiderman in real life
Eminem is not better than Nas he is not better than Jay Z and he is not better than LL Cool J so can we stop this is a joke 😅😅
It wouldn't be smart for M to even take a shot at Kdot right now, but I wouldn't be surprised because Drake is down so they'll bring him back to back to change the tide.
You right this is the wrong time 😅
If yall haven’t seen it Ceno has one of the best lists for best rappers and best freestyle rappers from a few years back
Eminem don’t bang with us like that, his daughters are raised them super proper. Distance himself from D-12 and reunited with Royce because he needed the energy again.
He don’t rock with us cause he didn’t raised his daughters in hip hop who3 culture 😂 you upset cause you won’t here about Haley getting passed around 😂 what you expect he’s a whyt boy 🤷🏾♂️
@@Copiio what about eminem dr dre and big sean
Big Sean is hella wack
In 2011 he was, not now, he’s one of the most improved rappers of all time tbr
No... Jay didnt want 50 cent there... 50 told Nore it was Jay who told the white boy he didnt want 50 there, not Em.
Jay didn’t want fif there that hatin bro he view him as competition
Still waiting for Eminem to answer back to game
Game is garbage
FACTS 🔥🔥🔥🔥 Game may have his fits and shyt but when it come to the mic? A STR8 CHAOTIC BEAST BLOOD THIRST SAVAGE... Eminem knows this he didn’t wanna entertain it alright. You can come at pop stars and shyt but not a raw rapper/emcee. Em been a joke never was the same since the mid 2000’s.
He couldn’t even come at Bone thugs when it comes to flow esp Krayzie and Bizzy Bone. Em don’t want no smoke with raw emcees that’s a fact.
Dude it’s spelled Tobey!! not as in the movie roots! It’s just a play on words as in Tobey McGuire getting bit by a spider becoming spiderman, and Jay asked Em to do the sb Em said he wouldn’t do it without 50! You reaching guy
I have never been the em type i can't relate to him our culture is blessed with way too many nice emcees when we embrace outsiders they become the em's, justin Bieber, Elvis's
Both of them Big Sean and Eminem really don’t want this problem w K Dot go bother Jayz 😂
😂😂😂😂 the wrong time
@@rayellkennedy5141 🤣
Wow ceno you and me must be the only people who prefer the original jingling baby
Ceno do more videos on breaking down lyrical flow and rhyme patterns . How you was explaining the 2/4 and 1/3 flow patterns was insightful
Karceno looks like Erick von zip 😂
The Eminem impression from "Til I Collapse" had me in shambles. Had Em sounding like a parrot. 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
😂😂 LL Cool J🐐 That was CRRAAAZAY💥💥💥
Wheres my snare? Eminem
Snoop talked about the em and 50 on the half time show
Now we're talking
Funny how JZ and K-Dot are balling and Sean and M careers are over, I guess M needs to hook up with Dre 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂 but it seems like Dre has forgotten his ass 😂😂😂😂😂
😂😂😂😂😂 Dre on with Kdot
And that’s why he’s mad. Dre backing Kendrick
@@msa6844 bruh Drake isn't getting any love in the A
You said what?
Kdot last album not even gold
The way you described Eminem rap style is hilariously true . I mean he's not the worst but when I first heard him back in the day on a few tracks I knew he had some serious issues . Potential to be a serial / cereal/ sociopathic type vibe . His imagination and expression of words back in the day could have created a few seriously twisted horror flicks !!! It's like he said what's the most shocking worst things I can put on this track to show them how dark my mind can be !!! 🙈😂😮
2:14 true rap saltire 😂😂😂😂
The last great white hope !!!
Big Sean!!!! Mf he done bowed out imagine a Kanye produced Kendrick diss song shit my tuck big Sean back in to pajama clothes
I agree after the Marshal Mathers EP I was out that was the start of the downfall
This is a cool song and they’re rhyming but WE DONT CARE 🤷🏾♂️. I like Big Sean a lot but I’m not interested in hearing a back & forth with him & Kendrick right now. As for Eminem 🥱 🥱🥱
If you don’t like Eminem why are you listening to his shit? 😂😂😂
😂😂😂😂
I had a feeling that was Toby in that movie.
JAY Z DID NOT WANT EMINEM AT THE SUPER BOWL HALFTIME SHOW BUT THE NFL DID NO CAPPING
Nas the Micheal Jordan of Rap 🐐
Nah that would be biggie
Ironically Toby means “Agreeable “ or “God is Good” in Hebrew
Em can’t mess wit Nas
He really can't nas has more content and em know better than that
Not even in Nas stratosphere
💯
Em may not be the best rapper but nobody better than him
@@MrHatcher5 ?
In music, beats 1 and 3 can refer to the downbeat, which is the first and strongest beat of a measure. Some percussion-based musicians may also refer to beats 2 and 4 as the upbeat, which is the weakest and last beat of a measure.
Mariah bodied him on obsessed. Got bodied by a singin chick
@@Bigmatt60 not even close and Mariah stopped talking immediately after he responded
🧢
@@its_just_me_acbshe didn’t need to respond. He was the clown for responding
@@kennethcook3127 Right, she left her ex husband to do it instead bc she didn’t want to get her hands or image dirtier. Saying he’s a clown for responding to a song about him is nonsensical.
@@its_just_me_acbnot true she read the mess out of him and he shut up immediately. Her diss still slaps to this day
Big Sean and em both need to sit down. Sean ain’t messing knot, and em ain’t messing with nobody outside of Mariah, yellawolf, nick cannon, mgk, Christina Aguilera. Those the only people he taking out
*Jay-Z vs Eminem* Hip Hop GAME OF THRONES is Lit 🔥 🎶🎛🎤🎚🎵... 👑
em has always been trash. Jay will never acknowledge this dude. Jay understands the business & knows what a em is, knows how they manufacture his sales & views ( I guarantee if you ask 50 random people if they heard em new song the answer is no. The same goes with his albums. there is a reason why em has to have big numbers). em poses no threat to a jay z. it’s hard to beef with a guy who writes for your boss & has more money & resources than your entire crew put together. Jay won’t acknowledge this dude until he says jay z name & comes at jay. unlike em, jay has been in real battles & jay would crush em. He can’t play industry games with a jay z. nas & jay are two mc’s who would destroy em.em isn’t ahead of pac, nas, jay or kendrick. or ll or slick rick, or biggie, or scarface or prodigy or raskass or jada. This clown em needs to get put in his place. I hope nas responds, & recently he ducked game.
Ceno lime or lemon ur water makes a difference
Ceno no matter what you say Brother , you're not gonna make me like any big Sean over kdot 😂 big Sean style is to annoying sounding
I don’t get how yall find big Sean’s voice to be annoying but not Kendrick’s inflections (I don’t but I’m just making an example) Sean don’t have a deep voice but he got a solid cadence since dark sky paradise
One kid is his cousins daughter who OD’d on mushrooms and the other Is Kim’s niece i think. Kim never had another kid.
Whitney is Kim’s daughter with another man. Kim also has a son now.
The way Papoose destroyed Big Sean was humiliating. Big Sean better not ever call out or take jabs at anyone because he got decimated in that diss song.
Em may not be the G.O.A.T but he's🔥🔥🔥 no denial
Lmfao bro your Jay-Z impersonation is spot on
This ain't no racism thing yall this just an exhibition, dont getntoo hyped 😂
Can't watch this anymore, he take to long to get to the point. Smh
I heard from somewhere that "Patience is a Virtue" 😉
I AM LISTENING AND WATCHING EVERYTHING. JAY HAS NOTHING 2 SAY AND OFFER THE BLACK COMMUNITY. KDOT & EMENIM ARE A EVEN EXCHANGE FOR WHITE AND BLACK PEOPLE WHO LOVE HIP HOP. BIG SEAN IS A HYPE MAN AND FAN OF THE MUSIC.
I always said that Drake is an actor, acting like a rapper
Em will wash Kendrick so bad people will forget the Kendrick/Drake beef ever happened
There was a freestyle with Big Sean back when Like That came out and he was taking a shot at the big three. Though it didn’t get any attention those few months ago because more people were focused on Drake or J Cole vs Kendrick and was kept out of the conversation. Although is said Big Sean and Kendrick patched it up. I do feel there was part of Big Sean who felt he had unfinished business with Kendrick in this battle. it said that the feud was reignited again with Big Sean and Kendrick when Kendrick dropped that leaked the original version of Elements which I feel was more intended towards Drake because of some of the shots he had on Kendrick on for all my dogs album. They call Kendrick Petty Pendergrass so he might’ve been sending a message to Big Sean and others to warn them not to poke a bear and get in a battle with him. Although I would’ve liked to seen a battle with Big Sean and Kendrick there is part of me that feels it wouldn’t have favored well for Big Sean especially right now because Kendrick has all this momentum and popularity, especially with destroying Drake and even if he has a diss that can compete and be damaging to Kendrick I don’t know if the mass public would perceive it that way. Kendrick has a much larger fan base and to me his fanbase is very similar to Eminem’s Where they’ll defend him and treat every record he does like it was the greatest thing ever made even if it’s terrible. When it comes to a battle with Big Sean and Kendrick, I do not think Kendrick’s fan base could really look past their bias and look at it from a musical standpoint so I somewhat feel for Big Sean that it may be a little pointless to straight up diss Kendrick. I think of Big Sean‘s gonna wanna go to Kendrick I think one they have to wait for this whole Drake versus Kendrick beef to die down and Kendrick is in that zone. Also, I feel that he needs to build back up his relevance even though his last album sold a little over 100,000 its first week, it was actually a decline from his previous album and we haven’t really got anything from Big Sean in the past four years and just going off that I don’t think the people are paying attention to Big Sean at the moment to even think enough of him going at Kendrick. Still we shall see.
I wish ppl stop putting word in Em mouth cause he's never been afraid to call someone out.
That's a lie they was dissing Jayz and Drake
Such a captivating upload.
Great video Ceno! I remember hearing one of the verses on Jingling Baby LL was spitting the science on a party song Truly GOAT Status!
Em and Kdot are cool. Sean and kdot are cool. J is not paying no attention. Let Em just reach. It's ok today.✌️
Bro, Tobey was Not Bad. HIS MUSLIM NAME IS KUNTA KENTA. MANDINGO WARRIOR. SLAVE MASTER NAMED HIM TOBEY AND TOLD HIM HE COULD NOT WORSHIP ALLAH . THAT IS WHY HE WAS BEING BEATEN IN THAT FAMOUS SCENE. HE WOULD NOT SUBMIT UNTIL HE HAD NO CHOICE BUT TO SUBMIT To SLAVEMASTERS RELIGION. HE KEPT TRYING TO ESCAPE AND THEY CUT OFF HIS FOOT.
Eminem had his time. Big Sean was never relevant in my opinion. It’s Kendrick moment, let it be folks. Sit back and learn something new…😊
Never relevant to YOU. He was very relevant to the era he came up with I was outside then you can’t tell me shit
@@romaretaylor9953 That’s why I said ME. There is no argument here we all like who likes.
Until Kendrick makes a song like Rap God , he’s not seeing Em 🙅🏽♂️ not happening… first of all if Kendrick would have battled Tory Lanez , Tory would of smoke 💨 him
Care ceno has lost his mind 😅trying to have the Kdot and drake money
Real talk !!!
Man Em dissed Brittany and Christina 25 years ago get over it. And Em called Joe Budden and Snoop out and didn't get a reply from either
I been saying em been ducking battles for years he’ll never be goat let alone top 5 or 10 for that matter he never killed hov on renegade
I feel u ceno, Sean don't wanna go against Kendrick Lamar right now....we all remember what happened to canibus 😮
And what about the Latin brother?? The go on the 3 and the 6 hahah 😂
rocafella promoted tobey on twitter
For the Em haters, when you get to the part about Em stealing children with fathers, that’s just slander. I don’t know why people need to lie if they have enough support for their hate. Nate was removed from the home, no dad around. Whitney’s dad died. Alaina was raised with Hailie, basically her sister, by Marshall and Kim most of her life, living with them from birth until her mom died no matter where they lived, no dad in sight to help. Kim went to prison. Marshall was left with the girls and stepped up. It says a lot about someone’s motives when they hate on a person for taking in kids without parents and making up claims about it being because he wanted to steal them or bc he smoke too much weed to have more kids. Credibility is lost. That goes for the Tobey title claims too.
You stan men. 😂
@@Artislife1992 Not really. But I do respect Marshall for saving 3 kids and breaking generational abuse cycles bc I’m a product myself of broken cycles like those kids and I do have a problem with people who lie to spread hate. You can dislike someone and still not lie about them to stir up more controversy. If you can’t separate defending the truth and being a crazed fan, then your own ethics and integrity are in question.
@@Artislife1992 but why’d you call me a man
Slim Shady sucks.😂😂
@@truthhurtz8517 I’ll trust Rakim over you, anonymous commentator. And I was talking about him being a good dad, not about his music
Now pac a battle rapper with bars ctfu
Hold on am I missing something where did Em diss K Dot
Jay won’t respond because him and Beyoncé is missing
That was Nore from drink champs
2:05:25 Murdergram rmx was 🔥. LL outrapped Eminem on Murdergram rmx but Em still better to me.
W/ DRE & KENDRICK LAMAR ITS A COMPTON THANG
"Big Sean keeps sneak dissing i let it slide, i think his false confidence got him inspired" - Kdot 👀
It's clear Em has run out of content to be complaining about a billboard list.
I think LL Cool J should make the same complaints then cuz he washed Em on a track but ranked 9 spots lower than him.
Eminem is the Goat all races from Gen X knew that we all paid Homage from all the best most respected emcees on
Anyone who dont think so has mental issues or his racist
Rhakim,NassBDK,,2Pac ,LL CoolJ, Ice Cube,Scarface,GRap, Beenie Seigel,Biggie, AZ, Jadakiss, are better then em ,to objectively select a few . JCole as well.
Also, mos def, all wutang members except ugod, black star members, 3 stacks, ludacris, tip, AZ, and a host of others
They don’t want it with that boy
r yall crazy? i can name 10 rappers right now who better than m. not even saying all these are top ten. but certainly saying m is not top ten. first of all u said ll cool j yourself, (and these are in no particular order), andre 300, k-dot, jayz, biggie, nas, tupac, lupe fiasco, lil wayne, mos def, easy e, common, dmx, plus a nicca i know from around the way. so thats 13 + 1. you have to knock off 4 of those before u can put m in the top 10. and thats just off the dome and no research and additional analysis. I know there is more. But you cannot find 4 people on that list that m is better than. remember rap as an art is different from rap as a business. thats y they have other categories such as best selling of all time. all that is business stuff and can be manipulated by money. but as far as the art it self, which people who never make it in the business are still better than most who do, he is no where close to the top 10.
I know Em Didn't Say Nothing Bad About Kung-Fu Kenny
This is a bunch of nothing you just made up. 🤦🏽♂️
Ceno What Up Brother
Like I've said in my recent livestream on this ... f Eminem feels ENTITLED, as he felt ENTITLED to having 5 Mikes from the Source, although he was still, pretty much, "brand new", and the message in his lyrics didn't relate to the core, hip hop audience.
Another example of Blacks not listening to DMX about Drake and they didn’t listen to JaRue about EM.