Welding PLA with Acetone?! and handy superglue tips.

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  • เผยแพร่เมื่อ 13 ส.ค. 2018
  • Working on Sean Field's 3d printed helmets and learned a new trick this morning to add to my super glue tips vid I planned...
    NOTE! After taking this video I found that the acetone doesn't work as well on the transparent PLA. This makes me think the acetone is reacting to whatever additive is used to colorize the filament as opposed to the PLA itself. All the colored parts I tested have worked great though so I'm still excited. ;)
    Link to Thomas' channel. If you like 3d printing and you're not subscribed, you should be!
    / thomassanladerer
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  • @Mpeddicord
    @Mpeddicord 5 ปีที่แล้ว +26

    The general consensus is that acetone doesn't chemically react to pure PLA, but some PLA filaments contain other plastics that will react with acetone. So, mileage may vary depending on the filament used.

    • @wilsonmura5930
      @wilsonmura5930 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Did he mention the PLA brand he's using?

    • @guitarfreak12396
      @guitarfreak12396 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      PLA is 100% soluble in acetone. I work with pure PLA daily.

    • @kafricano7684
      @kafricano7684 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I use 3D Solutech and it does not weld to gether with acetone can somebody please tell me a P l A that welds to gether with acetone

    • @t.janssen8463
      @t.janssen8463 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      I use PLA HP from Colorfabb, it also does not weld with acetone. Doesnt even leave a scratch unfortunately 🤣

  • @constantchialli9548
    @constantchialli9548 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Wow super handy ! Thank you :D perhaps you can continue this by making another video on prepping and finishing the parts of the helmet ?

  • @antennasbc
    @antennasbc 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I just found your channel. Subbed. I love your method of video and your great tips. Keep it up. Thanks!

  • @buckaroosan5571
    @buckaroosan5571 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    love your more consistent videos

  • @TrickyZ33
    @TrickyZ33 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    This IS a game changer! Thanks!

  • @tamgaming9861
    @tamgaming9861 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    thanks a lot for sharing your experience!!!

  • @WishedUponAVlog
    @WishedUponAVlog 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    so interesting Gordon, have a great weekend and may the force be with you c3po

  • @ZebraandDonkey
    @ZebraandDonkey 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Very nice. A lot of things I know. Curious about why you stopped with epoxy on the outside of prints.

  • @LarkAlrion
    @LarkAlrion 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Why can I only give this video one like? It needs more.

  • @MigMonkey
    @MigMonkey 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    I always assumed that since acetone didn't seem to smooth PLA it wouldn't weld it either.. I've been sorta tig welding my shore trooper bits together with spare filament and a soldering iron.. Going to try this on R2.

  • @19rocket64
    @19rocket64 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    fyi..it is the moisture in the starch, baby powder(talc) speed the cure of the super glue. Any filler can be used that either retains water (humectant) or by adding very slight amounts of water. I mix pure talc with varying amounts of starch to improve sand-ability and speed of cure. I also use my fingers with starch on them to rub the desired area first then add the superglue, resulting in a diy kicker.

  • @myAstromech
    @myAstromech 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Gordon... funny, I ran in to Thomas Sanlader's video just last week and did some experiments myself a couple days ago. I got some mixed results but when it worked, it worked well! Great video, Thanks. Also looking forward to your thoughts on XTC3D.

  • @Atarijmike77
    @Atarijmike77 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Baking soda glue trick nice thanks will try btw i like to use 3m acryl-red glaze putty for my small seams and oddities works great as long as you apply it in light layers issues arise when its on too thick

  • @chris.dotson
    @chris.dotson 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    I usually take a small bit of PLA, put it in my Dremel, turn it on low to med speed, and use that to weld the pieces together. It works VERY well. You just need to do it in places where it will never be seen.

  • @TheGreatBizarro
    @TheGreatBizarro 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Weld-On #3 works for pla as a solvent/adhesive. Depending on the pla and the type of plastics they use to make the filament some works with acetone some does not.

  • @perello23
    @perello23 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Nice Job!

  • @kafricano7684
    @kafricano7684 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I use 3D Solutech and it does not weld to gether with acetone can somebody please tell me a P l A that welds to gether with acetone

  • @bobikbobikowy5458
    @bobikbobikowy5458 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Great, i was searching something to weld my battery box for ebike, and this seems to be perfect solution !

  • @wilsonmura5930
    @wilsonmura5930 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Hey there I know Its been over 2 years, but do you know what brand of PLA you were using? as some have pointed out acetone welding PLA looks to be very brands plastic specific.

  • @voltage3d469
    @voltage3d469 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Awesome sauce!

  • @carlosivanojedasandoval1325
    @carlosivanojedasandoval1325 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    how to scale a helmet for 3d printing ? saludos desde Chile

  • @DH-fc2os
    @DH-fc2os 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    What type or brand of pla are you using that this worked for. I tried it on my trooper back piece and it would not work for me.

  • @vincentp5859
    @vincentp5859 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Could you tell me how you finish your 3D printed parts?

  • @smoothiegreenburg6065
    @smoothiegreenburg6065 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    that sanding was the opposite of asmr so i guess i will never know what you said during the sanding but glad this works off to weld some shit with nail polish remover ! thanks for video!

  • @steviekickz
    @steviekickz 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    This. Changes. EVERYTHING.

    • @gordontarpley
      @gordontarpley  5 ปีที่แล้ว

      RIGHT?!!! I've been so stoked all morning!

    • @steviekickz
      @steviekickz 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      ecolink.com/shop/solvents/wipe-solvent/acetone-55-gallon-drum/

    • @steviekickz
      @steviekickz 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      LMAO

    • @gordontarpley
      @gordontarpley  5 ปีที่แล้ว

      hahaah

  • @mcorrade
    @mcorrade 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    your 100% correct. I don't know why people are saying you can't weld PLA with acetone. I weld coil parts together and they take a huge strain and hold just fine. I find that glues do work but acetone works like a charm. The only draw back is it will discolor some pla's.

    • @wilsonmura5930
      @wilsonmura5930 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      It looks to be very brands specific, what PLA are you using?

    • @mcorrade
      @mcorrade 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@wilsonmura5930 I use several different brands and they weld just fine with acetone. I use HatchBox, Amazon Basic, SUn(something) and they all work and work really well. I still use the recommended 16 epoxy glue product and that works really good too.

    • @wilsonmura5930
      @wilsonmura5930 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@mcorrade Awesome I will be buying one of this brands in my next purchase!
      Did not know Amazon has a basic for FDM how is it?
      I moved and all my plastic is still back there so I can't try welding.
      Thanks for the quick reply!

    • @mcorrade
      @mcorrade 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@wilsonmura5930 I wasn't to sure how the Amazon basic would perform but was pleasantly surprised. I really like HatchBox but will use Amazon in a pinch especially when I can't get the color from HB I need. I forgot I also use Atomic which is good. My first filament was 3D Solutech which is terrible or, at least the spool I had was really brittle even after drying.

    • @wilsonmura5930
      @wilsonmura5930 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@mcorrade Awesome I'll add them to my list as well as some acetone.
      And again, thanks for the quick reply!
      Have an excellent weekend.

  • @jynx-vu2zc
    @jynx-vu2zc 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    great tips ! thanks for the video, just curious, how big is your print bed , I would love to make a helmet but I don't think my bed is big enough . ( Anycubic 13 mega ) 210 X 210 x 205 mm

    • @glenfoxh
      @glenfoxh 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      No need for a big bed to make big parts. That is if you are going for looks, and not high strength parts. Make your object in smaller parts, make them with interlocking sides. A simple little T shape should work well for thin parts. Then weld them using a 3D printer pen, or some filament held by a dremel wile pushing the spinning filament between the seams in an upward motion. That is known as friction welding.
      Sand smooth, then finish off with a smoothing compound.
      A trick for using a 3D pen for fusing, make sure a grove like bevel is there by default when printing each part where you intend on welding the pieces together. You will have more plastic flow in the premade bevel to help hold the parts together stronger.

    • @jynx-vu2zc
      @jynx-vu2zc 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@glenfoxh . thanks so much for the welding tip, if you haven't done so already it would make a great video

  • @valitotube
    @valitotube 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Did I do something wrong , I'm using Duramic 3d grey filament , PLA plus ...
    Doest bond at all..
    Or can I get a name of the PLA that it does work on

  • @kafricano7684
    @kafricano7684 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    can somebody please tell me what brand pla works best with welding with acetone

  • @spudnickuk
    @spudnickuk 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    i will try Acetone and look forward to seeing how it performs.
    Super glue is so weak now,
    i remember when it first came out
    it would stick everything in seconds, Including My Eye,
    My sister squeezed a tube so much it exploded in my eye, i was ok after a 2 hour op
    Anyway now if i get any on my fingers it hardly sticks
    So it is so weak, I guess it is so weak now due to reasons like what happened to me.
    A tip from me , Use a 3d pen to fill in gaps, No mixing things up, and best thing is, you use the same filament
    Thank you for sharing this info..

  • @themaninthesuitcase
    @themaninthesuitcase 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I've been using dicholoromethane to solvent weld PLA the same way that you would use acetone with ABS. Works great so far. I've not tried making a slurry yet though.
    I got it to make a HIPS droid and thought I'd just give it a go and see what happened.

  • @Toxicrafa
    @Toxicrafa 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Why didn't we try this before?!?? I just heard we couldn't weld PLA with acetone so I never bother to try... O M G !

  • @sinformant
    @sinformant 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I still don't get it..I.see these videos but I have tested acetone on every single roll of my pla filament.and not a single one does anything in acetone.

    • @gordontarpley
      @gordontarpley  5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I thought the same thing and never had PLA actually melt in acetone but never paid much attention to what was happening to the surface. I DID make a discovery this morning after making this video (I'll do an update vid about this soon). The acetone works WAY better on parts that have color but the clear PLA doesn't bond nearly as well. It works a bit but not strong like the other parts. I think whatever is added to the plastic to add the color is what's actually sensitive to the acetone.

    • @sinformant
      @sinformant 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      gordontarpley ill have to try it. I've only tried smoothing pla which I've seen others do in videos and it definitely didn't smooth the surface. I've always used ca glue to bind parts as I assumed acetone didn't effect the place at all. I had even had a failed print that was a partial bowl and poured in acetone and let it sit for a day and it didn't deform.

    • @gordontarpley
      @gordontarpley  5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yeah, I've been using CA for PLA for ages with really good results.

  • @ghost4realbitch
    @ghost4realbitch 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I know this is an old video, but I use acetone to help smooth pla after sanding

    • @kafricano7684
      @kafricano7684 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      can somebody please tell me what brand pla works best with welding with acetone

    • @ghost4realbitch
      @ghost4realbitch 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@kafricano7684 I’ve never had success with acetone, I sand the areas getting glued and use super glue

  • @kgp4death
    @kgp4death 5 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Isopropyl alcohol can be used as a kicker, you missed that tip.

    • @SianaGearz
      @SianaGearz 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Oh really? That's useful, i had no idea!

    • @kafricano7684
      @kafricano7684 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      What is the brand of p l a you use. Acetone does not work on the brand I am using now. Please help

    • @kgp4death
      @kgp4death 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@kafricano7684 my pla doesnt melt with acetone either abs does though.

  • @MrTherber2
    @MrTherber2 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Make sure you have ventilation. You show some signs of...poor ventilation. These fumes kill; early alzheimers.
    Set a better example in your videos for young people out there who still have their health by working under a hood or outside / open garage door and a dust mask at a minimum.