**ATTENTION PRE-MEDS** Are Caribbean Medical Schools a Good Idea? (SGU, ROSS, AUC) | Pros & Cons
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- Pros and Cons of going to a Caribbean medical school
Pre meds weigh the pros and cons of overseas med schools. If you are applying to medical school, you might find this info important.
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Always creating inspiring and transparent content. One of my favorite channels
wowww thank you so much, you're too nice. i appreciate the support! hope the video helped
You’re the first SGU medical student that has approached this topic with a level of transparency and open-minded whilst being down to earth, in my opinion. As a prospective pre-med student at SGU, I’d love to have a chat if it’s okay with you.
Thanks so much. Means a lot. Hit me up on IG
I’ll try my best to get back to you asap
Excellent and awesome video. Mine also similar experience as like you. Each and every point you well said. Hearty wishing your future endeavors. May God bless you.
Excellent and concise summary of the do's and don'ts of deciding whether this is a viable option for students. Classy with how you addressed the whole Jubbal video. In the end, what Dr. Jubbal said in his video didn't change my mind either.
AHHHH Nathalie!!! I was waiting for your comment! hahah thank you so much, I appreciate you always checking out the videos! and thank you, "classy" sounds so cool.
@@SeanDarmal kindly say about all American institute of medical sciences jamaica .
ER doctor here ! Hey keep up the great work. It is much harder to get into US specialties from Caribbean school BUT not impossible, I know plenty of people. Part of it is doing really, really well in your steps !!! Since that is the same test you and the guy at Harvard are taking. Is the equalizer. Keep up the great work !
Yes sir!! thats exactly right. I appreciate the support brother. Nice to see another creator on here. stay safe.
Great video thank you for making these and always being so genuine!
ayyyee man, thanks for stopping by again and showing love. i appreciate it
Finishing my 1st semester at AUC & couldn't agree with you more! If you know what you're getting yourself into, the Carib med school experience shouldn't be that much of a surprise lol. Used your videos to gain perspective on the IMG experience before I applied, thanks for the good + informative content, and have a great 4th year - you'll do great!!
Oh wow thank you for letting me know!!! I’m glad it helped. Especially since you went to a different school. And congrats on finishing term 1. That’s a big step.
Haha actually you say it better than I could’ve. If you know then it’s not surprising. Nicely put. Good luck on term 2. Keep going :)
So basically applying for residency is the same in any accredited medical school outside the US? If you graduate from a European med school is it equally as hard to get a US residency as it is from a Caribbean med school? If the answer is yes I wonder why more Americans don't consider Europe. It's cheaper and better facilities. Oh yeah and the awesome culture.
Forgot to mention there are lots of English programs.
I just finished at Auc!
Can I ask what your mcat score was?
St. George's or Ross only. Period. And above average at minimum on all boards and medical school exams. Apply broadly.
What about Saba?
I’ve seen all carribbean schools send students everywhere
Yep. I go to Ross. It’s pretty legit
Those are garbage as well
You’re very well spoken! Great video!
Thank you so much. And thank you for watching. I hope it helped
Bro, you stay making really good vids. Keep working hard bro. 🤙🏿
thanks Joel, i appreciate you always man
Dude, great video! You have a great personality, and will be a great doctor!
wowww, thank you so much, i really really appreciate it. and thanks for showing appreciation for the vid. means a lot
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Went to AUC and now am a critical care attending at a large hospital system. AUC provided me the opportunity to take the Step exams. Had a great time on the island at the same time.
Great video! Thank you!
thanks for watching!!
Great video , good information. Thank you.
Hey Marlon , thanks for always showing love. i appreciate it fam
Just wanted to say, I randomly stumbled on this video and thought, it was a great down to earth way to explain this point. Just to add a thing or two, any Caribbean school, you choose would be hardwork, atleast if you want the best outcome... atleast it was for me,... when I decided to change careers, I wanted to be an ER doc, went to a Caribbean school, worked my behind off, graduated in 2021, and I am about to finish my first year as an ER resident, at an incredible place. And don't forget, "statistics is based on the population and not the individual".....
This is the coolest comment ever. So proud of you man. That’s awesome. Hope you’re killin it. Thanks for watching this video and for the kind words g. Thank you
I just saw this and man…I really need to see this comment. I’ve been applying to schools this season but I don’t think I’ll get into a US/DO school so I applied to the accredited Caribbean schools. A family friend of ours went there and is now a full fledged attending now in the states. I too want to do Emergency Medicine but I’ve been reading that it’s either friendly or pretty hard for IMGs to secure. What are your thoughts? Did you apply to any back up specialties like Internal Medicine? Thanks
Thank you, so much!!!🙏🏾
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ayyeeee Orabele always showing love, i appreciate you so much. thank you for always watching even though you already in sgu. you the best
Never seen any TH-cam video with zero thumbs down and for a reason. Thanks
Thank you so much. That’s so kind. I didn’t even notice until you said it. Thank you thank you
This was very informational...thinking of checking it out but I am still a junior in college so I still have some time!!!
i hope this helps!!
I love this video. Thanks a lot for the info and btw you have beautiful eyes :)
Thank you so much. I really hope it helped. and ohhh jeez thank you thank you :)
Thanks for answering with grace to that residency dropout turned youtuber.
oh no way he dropped out of residency?
You went to Caribean? What is the amount of untis taken first smester year 1-2 ? Also, the people graduate most of the time ?
I am from the carribbean and I want to stay here, which carribbean school do you recommend?
Awesome video as usual! I am starting at AUC for Term 1 in less than two weeks and would really like to see that video on how you think the STEP 1 becoming Pass/Fail will impact us future students.
Hi, Yes of course. i will be doing that as soon as i get some free time, i am studying for step 2 right now. super stressed. but it will be my next video. thank you for watching
I just finished at AUC! I miss SXM sooooo much. Legit had a blast on the island you’re gonna love it
@@Sexdewana @Sexdewana hey how was your experience at AUC? Why did you choose that school over SGU & Ross? I'm applying for the fall and I'm really stuck on which school to choose.
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I'm a second year at Ross in Step prep thanks for this you earned a sub!
hey Paul, hows Ross university working for you? what are some things you like and dont like? and thanks for the sub. best of luck brother
@@SeanDarmal Pretty awesome can't complain so far our rotations are a little backed up due to covid. They gave us UWorld and a few other resources to help us out with Step which was huge. I'm sure you can related, actual Ross material/exams are very nitpicky and you have to know all the details to pass each block as they're big one weeding out etc... Best of luck man it's a good inspiration to see a fellow carib make it!
@@SuperHahahaha123 and @Sean Darmal, I bet you are done by now with the whole island experience. I’m currently torn between a Merp at Ross or an admission at SGU. Which one is family friendly or just safer ? Hope you get ba k to me. Tkx already got your videos.
@@Lynem28 hey, which one did you end up choosing? I'm applying to both and don't know which is the best option.
@@SuperHahahaha123 well said, I totally agree. I am also from Ross it's my fourth semester is going on. I love Ross, very nice locatuon and friendly faculties.
You’re so funny! When said I’m already over 300 thousand debt hahah
hahah, oh man the number is so much higher right now too :( thanks for watching i hope the videos are helping
Hi, thanks for video. Have you done 4 year college degree before going to Medical School at Caribbean or you have gone for 5 year Medical school? Usually what is best approach - 4 year or 5 year medical school in Caribbean?
I really dont know, I do know that the students who do that extra year are usually performing better because they are prepped a little better. but i personally really liked my college experience, so i was glad i did only the 4 years.
If its actually more expensive then whats the point?
I'd like to strongly warn any student against going to AUA. Even though I recently passed my Step 1, my experience has been HORRIBLE with the administrative staff. They fail to do their job to help you, then attack you or downright ignore you when you reach out to deflect from their own incompetence. Suicide, rape, bullying, violence, and theft are sky high on campus. They don't have proper security cameras (in violation of US accreditation policies) and you're risking your life going there. I was jumped and injured by 3 students on campus and had the contents of my locker stolen. AUA did nothing to protect me and made it clear they're a business that wants your tuition money, not a school that cares if you pass or survive.
Just graduated from there had no issues like this at all
Wow that is very concerning. I am sorry you had these experiences. That’s scary.
That’s complete bullshit, you should be ashamed of spreading false information
Did you transfer to another med school?
My wife is in an advanced honors nursing program. She was given the opportunity to take the MCAT in September and go to a program at AUC. I might have the opportunity to work remote so we are considering moving together with our daughter for a short period. Would be a great experience.
Wow congrats to your wife. That’s amazing. I wish you guys the best transition. Best of luck
Hey Dr. Darmal! Great video! I was wondering if you know any US SGU students that did a year in Northumbria? I'm considering SGU Northumbria because I've always wanted to study in the UK. Would you recommend this option? Thanks!
Hey, oh please im only a student. but thank you for watching. Yeah sure. its a smaller class size, but basically the same exact curriculum. the only thing is that i remember you need to have private loans for that program. so the interest might be a lot more. but if its your preference then it could be cool. also keep in mind how they are handling the corona situation over in the UK. it might be hard to have your full cool experience when theres quarantine going on. you know what i mean?
Hi Sean, hope you are doing good. I could relate very much to you, since I am too from a non-medical background. But have that zeal in me to make it through. Well, I have a quick question, I have been accepted by both SGU and AUC (United Kingdom track) for Jan 2021. I know it's dumb to ask you which one is good? but still in case you have any idea or insight please help me out, it is quite difficult. One side its SGU and other its studying in UK through AUC(UCLAN). I would appreciate any guidance or feedback.
Hi Mohamed, I am sorry I have let you down, I have been a little busy with work. First off congratulations. where is your mind at right now in the decision process. are you leaning towards one side more? if it helps, either one is good, both will have its pros and cons. I think thats very cool that you got into the UCLAN program. do you see it being a problem going to an island for 2 years?
The one thing I'd mention is that the stigma isn't necessarily just self imposed, but rather from other applicants. Like you mentioned tho, it goes away
Yeah I’m sure people will get that at some point in there journey. It is unfortunate, especially seeing that we all have the same end goal of wanting to help people. But like you said hopefully it’s only a transient thing. Fortunately though I haven’t come across any situations like that
Please make the video about step 1 moving to pass fail. I graduate undergrad this Friday and am really struggling with the fact I might have to take three GAP years if I don’t get in this next cycle.
i got you, ill do my best, thanks for letting me know
3 years? Not one?
is premed at sgu easier than first term md student ?
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Thankyou i m a medical student.
hey man, i am sorry for the delay. check this video out. is this what you had in mind? th-cam.com/video/m172MAj5QvM/w-d-xo.html
What about sgu current accreditation? I heard they withdrew from the CAAM-HP… is that a bad sign? Also what will happen next with their accreditation?
Plz let me know too if you find the answer somewhere.
I'm a first-year SGU student I feel like we would get along. I ALSO WANT TO BE A PSYCHIATRIST!!!!
Hey! thank you. yeah i have no doubt we would be friends. thats amazing though. congrats. hope its going well so far. keep working hard. ill see you in the psych field in a few years. fingers crossed
@@SeanDarmal it is thank you, any advice on what to do as a first year to help to get a Psych residency? even though your a third year 😅
Hey Rab Raza. What medium of teaching do they use at St George's? English or...?
@@PrescillaKgade they use English, but they have a Track for foreign speakers.
8:24 isn't this part of the reason why the overseas medical schools may be perceived as less than by some?
Did you personally choose the MD over the DO?
To be honest. It was more of a choice of “where could I actually get in to”. Now that I am actually working. There literally no difference between an MD and DO.
Do you have any experience of Canadians going to Carribean med schools to eventually work in the US?
I actually haven’t checked on any friends that were from Canada, in a little while. So I am not too sure. I am so sorry.
@@SeanDarmal 😭
Grenadian here, do yuh think you will ever come back to Greenz, even if jus for a visit :)
aww jeez, ive never even thought of that before. i would love to come back any time, but as for right now, im focused on getting into residency, so not in the near future! thanks for asking though.
@@SeanDarmal Fair enough, nice to hear!
I just subscribed.
Hell yes
So I also know my chances of getting into A US MD/DO are slim to none. I know I will not fail...like you said I’m willing to get a lot of money on myself so I’m going to ROSS fall 2021. However, it is exhausting listening to people try and talk you out of it.
Nice! im glad to hear it. congratulations, like you said, bet on yourself and dont give up. good luck! and work your butt off
You ever thought of European schools? They're much cheaper, have better facilities, some are taught entirely in English, and if things don't work out in residency match you can still practice anywhere in the EU. If you learn the language of the country of course.
Hey! Looks like we're going to be classmates. Yeah, I was planning on going in January of 2021 but this whole pandemic thing kind made me to defer till fall of 2021. If you want to link up sometime DM me.
hey can you add me on insta I have few questions as I plan to attend ross in fall 2022
How is Ross so far?
No obligations other than study doesn’t necessarily mean it’s a good thing. Distractions to some sort of a degree is very healthy. You can’t study every freaking hour. I would rather see it as a negative reason, why you shouldn’t choose this path.
Hey there. You’re not wrong at all. It’s always good to keep a healthy balance between studying and personal time. Just because there are no extra obligations doesn’t mean you’re still studying nonstop, because you still make time for yourself no matter what, or else you would go crazy. When you see the actual work load, I think you would understand what I mean though. Good point though
Would you honestly say that your good looks played a part in being accepted to a Caribbean medical school so quickly?
hahaha oh wow. get out of here! haha thats super kind of you, but i think it was just a good interview overall
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I’m gonna start in August. I’m becoming bald from the stress of 60% match rates and student loans.
How much is the fees for 1 semester
Hi sorry for the delay. I think it breaks down to like 45k per semester
Does SGU use English or another language as their medium of teaching?
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They use English
You are realistic
I wish more people knew that you don't need to go to the Caribbean. Australia is a very viable option for Americans and Canadians. I know many carribbean grads that did well though
Thats totally true. There are plenty of other countries that are offering schooling. I guess Caribbean ones just caught on for US students
but you bring up a good point!
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Won't be the same..Carribean med schools are geared towards teaching US med school curriculum and Last 2 year rotations are in US hospitals.
That’s very true! A friend of mine did medical school in Queensland and he’s very successful there and had an amazing positive experience. My other friend did med school in NY but didn’t take step 2 but she decided to do her residency in Sydney and is practicing there
Hello,
New subscriber here. I have a question if you don’t mind answering. Is it true that the term 5 final exam is worth 45% which is a way to weed people out from getting a clinical spot because SGU has lost a majority of its spots to other schools?
Hi, I’m just curious as to where did you hear this info?
Hi, so sorry for the delay. i am in the middle of studying for step 2, but i remembered this comment and wanted to come back to it later. now i am not entirely sure what the most recent syllabus is for term 5, they changed it like twice since last year. so if you could send me the information source, i would love to look at it. but in the mean time, the way it works is that there are 2 final exams that are cumulative based that you will come across in your 5th term. one is the BSCE 2 (from SGU ) and one called the CBSCE (something like that) (from the NBME, the people who make the step exam). the percentage breakdown of the grade for term 5 changes here and there. but yeah its a two big parts of your term 5 grade. thats why term 5 is stressful, because a lot of your grade comes down to 2 exams (close to 65%). the good thing is that what usually happens is that you basically end up performing the same on those two exams as the average of your other exams throughout your terms.
but yeah, link me to whatever you found that says sgu lost its clinical spots. anyways hope it helps
@@SeanDarmal I heard it from one of the commenters just wanted an insight on it. Thanks
How good is american university of Antigua? Is it a good option for indians?
Hey. I’m sorry I never heard of the school until recently. I do recommend you go onto their website and check their match list for the recent years and see how many people matched versus their class size
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Yes it is good school
@@darcyliliana4907 I’m looking for more information. Other than the school website can you recommend other places to get information?
@@melahsmusings medical school insiders and Cuba Jamaican heal has alot of information concerning Caribbean medical schools
Can you make a video or your comments on the new USMLe 1 pass/fail instead of numeric scoring and how it will affect Caribbean students
yes yes, that will actually be my very next video. but it will be in a few weeks because i have my step 2 exam coming up soon. but i got you
Any idea about Saba university?
Hi Samuel, I am sorry I have no idea how Saba is as a school. I am really sorry. but let me know what you find out.
What about CMU, would anyone recommend it?
I’m so sorry. I have never heard of it :(
@@SeanDarmal thank you
Why you chose SGU vs others?
It was the best option out there because it seems to be the most established caribbean med school.
@@SeanDarmal applied before stumbling upon your channel. August 2020 or Jan 2021 start. Thank You! I know Carrib sch schlo limited, but dd you received or suggest any available scholarships?
Oh well congrats. I hope it works out. I didn’t apply or get any scholarships. But they do have a section on their site for scholarships!
Let me know how it works out.
Have you ever heard of the SGU Charter Foundation Program?
Yeah man. CFP. It’s an introductory/“trial” semester that gives a glimpse of what the normal terms are like. If you get passed that you roll right into your first term.
Sean Darmal Any tips on how to survive that program? I’m not in it. But just in case if I do wind up getting placed into that program.
Kendrick Zuo you’ know man. I haven’t done it myself. But I know it’s a fast pace course. Not impossible at all. But you would have to take it seriously. th-cam.com/video/aWJhxUMcgVE/w-d-xo.html
Kendrick Zuo check out this video. This might help. They start talking about it at 3 mins
This doesn't even make sense, I legit thought people went to the Caribbean because it was way cheaper....I'm dumb founded hearing its more expensive than American schools ...
Tell me about the cost for the medical study.
Hi, its about $500,000 for my school, with student loans
what about washington university of health and science belize /WUHS???
It appears that most doctors have really good memory retention.. i wouldn't necessarily say they are very smart..
Most doctors in my opinion are very arrogant and selfish with their lifestyles.. i can see mechatronics engineering completely taking over the medical industry..
But to the real doctors out there doing their best for man kind and not the evil industry.. God bless you
i appreciate it, thanks for watching friend
There is so much to unpack here, shoulda keep your backhanded comments to yourself ig
Pro= no family lmao what about separation anixety 😭
Hahaha. Yeah that could be very real some times
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Practicing Medicine as an IMG isn’t worth the effort . The financial reward isn’t worth it . Just do comp sci
Yeah man. It’s all about what your passionate about. Comp sci is super interesting too!
Anyone who thinks they have what it takes to be a doctor however want to avoid the mcat = you’re not going to be a doctor. We call those nurses/NP’s/PA’s lol. The Mcat will tell you if you have what it takes to be a dr or not. If you can’t score a minimum of 506 = go to nursing school. I truly feel for her. She seems like a nice kind hearted young woman. Any “med school” that doesn’t require an mcat = run away as fast as you can. They’re worthless
I am not sure what your credentials are, but physicians do not discourage students from achieving his or her goal of being a Doctor. There are plenty of programs to enhance an academic career. Furthermore, medical schools including the Caribbean do require an MCAT and there are a lot of SGU and Ross students that have residencies throughout the US.