Another reason is that owners don't want their ego bruised. The teams in the Newbie were teams that rarely made the playoff in the past 20 or so years and if they did usually never win a game in the postseason. Black n Blue were playoff semi-regulars that sometimes would win a game, but never really made the SB or a Conference Championship. Almost every team would almost demand that they be put in the Powerhouse League, which was reserved for teams that over the past two-ish decades had made playoffs consistently and consistently won in the playoffs.
@@xKingofHearts87xand you’re the reason EA thinks their clientele doesn’t want the modes they use to put in the games. They think we’re zombies who only care about cinematic cutscenes looking nice, when in reality it’s not.
Yup. And all of it was lost after the ps2 era. We’d never get stuff like this in current day. They’re too busy trying to sell people on tackle animations
For me, Sega Genesis Madden's were my nostaligia. These games(ps2 era), are the best made football games to date. That is both a compliment to the developers then, but a statement how far gaming developing has fallen.
The Madden 12 version is similar except at the end of the 3 previous leagues, you face 3 different custom teams instead of all star or hall of fame teams. The Kickers, The Monsters, and The Manipulators. Each has their own set of powers like the teams in the supreme league. They all also share the same stadium.
I just remembered I made a video with the "ghetto phone footage" about fantasy challenge like a year ago. th-cam.com/video/gXn6Foev8vg/w-d-xo.htmlsi=omNBvt_ZRkNTIzUS
To be more specific about the extra three teams' powers, for those curious: The Kickers have an insanely strong kicker (as in, full-length-of-the-field strong, meaning every drive is guaranteed to get 3 points unless you force a turnover), run a bunch of fake field goals regardless of down or distance, and get "Roughing the Kicker" penalties if you hit stick them; the Monsters can "intimidate" you into not seeing your receiver icons (à la CFB25's Stadium Pulse at its most intense); and the Manipulators will force you to pick specific plays, randomly make you audible against your will, and occasionally prevent your QB from throwing the ball at anyone besides the receiver they've double-covered.
I used that mode for my revenge arch on getting my madden skills up to play my dad. Every time I had a break from school, I stayed up til 4-5am just playing this and getting my audible game up as well as the stick skills. I had an entire ritual where I’d play the mini games first to warm up, play a quick quarter of a game with random team selected and then go into the grind. They need to bring this back and torture the new generation and teach these kids what real rage quit is.
Glad someone finally covered this. I also had to learn to use qb spy's and run the clock down against the dummies. Ironically I had a hail Mary last second bomb from favre to driver against the tridents to win
I remember in these games each league had a weird team that you faced for the championship that cheated. The Newbie League you played had a team called the Kickers. Every single person on the team had the position of a placekicker. Which means if you hit stick or slam them, it's an immediate 15-yard penalty, automatic 1st down due to roughing the kicker. The Black n Blue you played the Monsters who were genetic freaks that couldn't be blocked. The shenanigans started early. Powerhouse was the Manipulators, iirc, that would change the play after you've selected it and you either had to audible or run the play, they changed it too.
Something fun is that on the full team draft mode, you draft every position, but you don't draft a full 53 man roster, so you'll have holes and the game will compensate in... interesting ways. My Jumbo package TE3 was my kicker Adam Vinatieri. I had him catch like 4 TDs.
Maaan this brings back memories. One of my favorite things to do with these teams after unlocking them was watch CPU vs. CPU matches between them. Dummies vs. Tridents was a blast. Deceivers vs. Glaciers was a riot. Good times.
THe dummies showed up in the PC version as well didn't they in some capacity, just the idea of sentient training dummies is nightmare fuel, the idea of a team of defenders going invisible is hilarious when it's someone else struggling
I had the PC version, and they were just straight up unlocked in the game since this game mode wasn't in that version. I always thought the Dummies were the strongest since all the other teams' powers didn't work properly, though to be honest, I don't think I ever used the Tridents once.
That was my favorite mode to play in. I had played the 09 version which had similar teams but also had a team with all kickers. And they would never punt, but kick these 90+ field goals every time.
Amazing video from start to finish. The music selection & the deep dive into the game mode was perfect I liked how you used music from UMK3 for the Deceivers part of the video. Their stadium design kinda reminds me of Shao Kahn’s Throne Room.
I remember they had dope ass training modes in this game against the dummies! I remember doing a running back mode, where you had to stay on a path that zigged and zagged all 100 yards down the field and you had to dodge the dummies. Good times man
This is by far my favorite game mode that's been in any Madden, glad to see someone else talk about it. All madden is fr impossible lmao the dummies are INSANE
This is how you know this game was good. I can’t tell you how many hours I put into this game as a kid and NEVER knew this game mode was even a thing. I know the dummies from the practice mini games but I have never seen this game mode at all
Madden 08 was literally my favorite Madden. me and my younger brother wouldn’t even play full games, we would just play the practice modes over and over again.
Thanks for sharing this, I never knew about it. The creativity they used to have omg!! Makes me even more mad at Madden now lol. The Glaciers are straight out of Mortal Kombat or Eyeshield 21 😂
This is yet another reason why the older madden games were better on the ps2, legendary teams, HOF players, more create a team options, the madden card cheats, franchise mode was way better to.
Some dude stole your whole video and posted to tik tok. I don’t even play Madden anymore, but had a blast watching your video. Had to come find the OG creator and reward him for his time and effort: Great fucking video. I played ‘08 on my original Xbox and PsP and had no clue this mode existed
Me and my cousin beat the whole entire skill drills level thing Dey had. Skill drills was one of my favorite modes I just want to go back to my childhood again lol dats when madden was realistic and fire
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those dummies were nightmare fuel, used to have me genuinely terrified
3:53 99 everything bigger faster stronger 😂
Dey never had me nervous lol
its just shane gillis
Same
They were goated
Madden would never do something like this nowadays. I miss when games were made with passion
Another reason is that owners don't want their ego bruised. The teams in the Newbie were teams that rarely made the playoff in the past 20 or so years and if they did usually never win a game in the postseason. Black n Blue were playoff semi-regulars that sometimes would win a game, but never really made the SB or a Conference Championship. Almost every team would almost demand that they be put in the Powerhouse League, which was reserved for teams that over the past two-ish decades had made playoffs consistently and consistently won in the playoffs.
@@chrissao_502 ngl I never really noticed this
@@xKingofHearts87xand you’re the reason EA thinks their clientele doesn’t want the modes they use to put in the games. They think we’re zombies who only care about cinematic cutscenes looking nice, when in reality it’s not.
@@anthonylombardo1261yeah… that’s a stretch buddy.
The nfl stops madden from doing certain stuff that they actually wanna do idky 🤷🏾♂️
Dang madden had some great innovation back then
Yup. And all of it was lost after the ps2 era. We’d never get stuff like this in current day. They’re too busy trying to sell people on tackle animations
Because less about the fun of the game and more about how Madden points someone has
The dummies used to give me nightmares. Something about 8 feet tall sentient football dummies chasing you around with no feet didn't sit right with me
Madden nostalgia hits the hardest. Back when the game was good. Take me back!
For me, Sega Genesis Madden's were my nostaligia. These games(ps2 era), are the best made football games to date. That is both a compliment to the developers then, but a statement how far gaming developing has fallen.
Thought I was the only one who remembered this lol.
Absolutely LOVED Madden 08
Totally forgot about the mode. This was a few years before NFL clamped down on EA and made them remove stuff they didn't like
The Madden 12 version is similar except at the end of the 3 previous leagues, you face 3 different custom teams instead of all star or hall of fame teams. The Kickers, The Monsters, and The Manipulators. Each has their own set of powers like the teams in the supreme league. They all also share the same stadium.
I just remembered I made a video with the "ghetto phone footage" about fantasy challenge like a year ago.
th-cam.com/video/gXn6Foev8vg/w-d-xo.htmlsi=omNBvt_ZRkNTIzUS
I love playing it was fun different
I play it on 09 and 12 madden
To be more specific about the extra three teams' powers, for those curious: The Kickers have an insanely strong kicker (as in, full-length-of-the-field strong, meaning every drive is guaranteed to get 3 points unless you force a turnover), run a bunch of fake field goals regardless of down or distance, and get "Roughing the Kicker" penalties if you hit stick them; the Monsters can "intimidate" you into not seeing your receiver icons (à la CFB25's Stadium Pulse at its most intense); and the Manipulators will force you to pick specific plays, randomly make you audible against your will, and occasionally prevent your QB from throwing the ball at anyone besides the receiver they've double-covered.
I used that mode for my revenge arch on getting my madden skills up to play my dad. Every time I had a break from school, I stayed up til 4-5am just playing this and getting my audible game up as well as the stick skills. I had an entire ritual where I’d play the mini games first to warm up, play a quick quarter of a game with random team selected and then go into the grind. They need to bring this back and torture the new generation and teach these kids what real rage quit is.
I completely forgot about these teams. Back when Madden was actually creative
Glad someone finally covered this. I also had to learn to use qb spy's and run the clock down against the dummies. Ironically I had a hail Mary last second bomb from favre to driver against the tridents to win
bro used sonic tekken and mortal kombat music fire selection
And mvc2 music
That was like maddens version of nfl street 😂😂😂
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I remember in these games each league had a weird team that you faced for the championship that cheated. The Newbie League you played had a team called the Kickers. Every single person on the team had the position of a placekicker. Which means if you hit stick or slam them, it's an immediate 15-yard penalty, automatic 1st down due to roughing the kicker. The Black n Blue you played the Monsters who were genetic freaks that couldn't be blocked. The shenanigans started early. Powerhouse was the Manipulators, iirc, that would change the play after you've selected it and you either had to audible or run the play, they changed it too.
Used to play this mode all the time. Its the most rage inducing mode ive ever played and i loved it so much 😂
Something fun is that on the full team draft mode, you draft every position, but you don't draft a full 53 man roster, so you'll have holes and the game will compensate in... interesting ways. My Jumbo package TE3 was my kicker Adam Vinatieri. I had him catch like 4 TDs.
THANK YOU FOR COVERING THIS! I’ve looked for videos on it but could never find any
Another gem of a channel, never stop making these
That dummy team was extremely hard 😂
Maaan this brings back memories. One of my favorite things to do with these teams after unlocking them was watch CPU vs. CPU matches between them. Dummies vs. Tridents was a blast. Deceivers vs. Glaciers was a riot. Good times.
I haven’t played this mode in 10 yrs crazy
7:04 Me:ok thats cheap i see that...cant be too bad though
7:08 Me:hm...i can smell the baloney now this some bullshit 💀
Bro it just... kept fuckin goin
All my years of playing PS2 Madden, I have never knew this existed 💀💀💀💀💀💀
Kaizen has great content. You are definitely gonna blow up bro. Keep Grinding.
THe dummies showed up in the PC version as well didn't they in some capacity, just the idea of sentient training dummies is nightmare fuel, the idea of a team of defenders going invisible is hilarious when it's someone else struggling
I had the PC version, and they were just straight up unlocked in the game since this game mode wasn't in that version. I always thought the Dummies were the strongest since all the other teams' powers didn't work properly, though to be honest, I don't think I ever used the Tridents once.
Man I haven’t thought about that mode in 15 years. Thanks for unlocking old nightmares.
My algorithm is calibrated when it's taking me to a Madden video with Capcom vs SNK 2 music
You're right, I did forget but it's all coming back to me now. Thank you for the nostalgia.
That was my favorite mode to play in. I had played the 09 version which had similar teams but also had a team with all kickers. And they would never punt, but kick these 90+ field goals every time.
never knew any of this existed this is fire more people should try this mode out on all madden
Just found your stuff. Respect man your whole channel is just nostalgia for me
you just made me dig this game out of my basement. thank you so much
Amazing video from start to finish. The music selection & the deep dive into the game mode was perfect
I liked how you used music from UMK3 for the Deceivers part of the video. Their stadium design kinda reminds me of Shao Kahn’s Throne Room.
I remember they had dope ass training modes in this game against the dummies! I remember doing a running back mode, where you had to stay on a path that zigged and zagged all 100 yards down the field and you had to dodge the dummies. Good times man
Man you unlocked a deep memory with this one , Thankyou
Awesome video, glad I discovered your channel early so I can witness your comeup!
Strange point of interest, charting the popularity of a random TH-cam channel, but to eaches own, I guess.
i remember playing this as a kid, I tried to google how to beat them but literally no one was talking about it
Aye bro, this video fr had me dying 😭. Please keep uploading vids
This is by far my favorite game mode that's been in any Madden, glad to see someone else talk about it. All madden is fr impossible lmao the dummies are INSANE
Woooooooooooooow I remember this from my childhood! Thank you for the reminder!
Yoooo… this is such a fire video!! keep it up mane
Forgot these existed!!!!
i never forgot, this was the best shit ever. too bad we'll never get this greatness again with the current state of madden. nice video
Back when the EA developers actually cared about their games
This is why I still play the old Madden games!
I still play Madden 08 on my PC from time to time, its amazing.
CVS2 AND MVC2 OST?? Yeah this guy knows his stuff!💯💯
We need this type of fun back in video games
Man put the Tekken Tag 1 Yoshimitsu stage music in the video that's how I know I'm getting fucking old 💀😭
This is how you know this game was good. I can’t tell you how many hours I put into this game as a kid and NEVER knew this game mode was even a thing. I know the dummies from the practice mini games but I have never seen this game mode at all
No one forgot these were the greatest madden features to never be put in the game again. 😭😭
Played that game for years as a kid and somehow didn't know about this mode lmao. I'm so sad!
Definitely gonna buy this game! Didn’t know about this mode I had 03-05, 07 and 10 on ps2.
Madden 08 was literally my favorite Madden. me and my younger brother wouldn’t even play full games, we would just play the practice modes over and over again.
I didn’t forget, madden need to bring these back ASAP !!! AND THE OLDER TEAMS TOO ! And EVERY PRO BOWL TEAM TO COMPETE AGAINST ONE ANOTHER
The Kiazen rebirth has been amazing
good times man.. loved this mode so much.
I never forgot this mode. I loved it, actually. I was sad they didn't keep it because it was actually a pretty great and unique game mode at the time.
Nahhh the Tekken music go crazy tho🤣🤣😭
Those Madden cards made it easy to defeat the Supreme league teams
the invisible team is wild as hell
Someone on tiktok stole ya video i luckily have brain cells and searched it up on youtube fire video bro💯🔥
dude i didnt forget about this mode but i forgot what game had it. omg thank you
Glad you made this I randomly remembered this a few months ago and couldn’t find anything on it
We never forget over here!
Thanks for sharing this, I never knew about it. The creativity they used to have omg!! Makes me even more mad at Madden now lol. The Glaciers are straight out of Mortal Kombat or Eyeshield 21 😂
This is yet another reason why the older madden games were better on the ps2, legendary teams, HOF players, more create a team options, the madden card cheats, franchise mode was way better to.
Some dude stole your whole video and posted to tik tok. I don’t even play Madden anymore, but had a blast watching your video. Had to come find the OG creator and reward him for his time and effort:
Great fucking video. I played ‘08 on my original Xbox and PsP and had no clue this mode existed
I don’t know how I came across this video but I’m sure glad I did lol
Thanks for doing this i never knew these teams existed
Madden 08 for the pc with mods is still one of the best football games to date
lol the random Tekken music. Good choice.
Loved the Tekken Tag music
Loved the editing on this! Keep it up!
i didnt forget i just plain didnt know this existed even though i played that madden era plenty
Very good video. This was my favorite Madden.
Like the Glaciers this game mode just simply disappeared
i love this mode this why madden 08 is the best madden ever
Jeez is going to AFC Hall of Fame, then straight NFC hall of fame.
Ps2 Madden will always be the 🐐 Madden its NOT CLOSE 😂
I miss playing NFL Street for my PlayStation 2
I miss this mode it was GOATED
Atlantis makes the regular team look like Little Mac
Playing the pats at the end is crazy
Me and my cousin beat the whole entire skill drills level thing Dey had. Skill drills was one of my favorite modes I just want to go back to my childhood again lol dats when madden was realistic and fire
Great content love it
Fantastic video man!!
I’m one of the 7.43K that subscribed.
Ngl, I miss Madden 08. I knew immediately when I saw the thumbnail. Times were different back then
The tackling dummy’s face looks like Shane Gillis in the thumbnail.
The Atlantis stadium was dope
Madden 08 was peak madden
I barely scraped by with the all-time great 2007 Patriots lol
subscribed - can't believe i didn't remember this mode!
I remember this mode! It was a lot of fun
Man I miss peak madden
Never forgotten
Fantasy challenge was lit whaaaaaaaaaaaaat
The tridents are the Atlantis national team basically that crazy
08 was my favorite