Seems Miami Arena would be a prime example. It opened for the Miami Heat in 1988 and later was also home to the NHL Florida Panthers. Both teams bailed for new arenas before 2000.
If nothing else, the bar at the top makes it one Hell of a Jeff Foxworthy setup ("If the most expensive beer you ever drank was bought at Bass Pro Shops...")
I actually went to two NBA games and one SEC tournament game at The Pyramid. I don't really remember much about the arena, which probably speaks to how uninspiring it was.
The Alamodome in San Antonio, TX could easily be on this list. Back in 2019, the Alamodome was ranked as the third worst stadium in college football. It was also terrible for NBA basketball.
The Alamodome was built to attract a NFL team, so far it hasn't. However, other pro football leagues have called the Alamodome home, as well as a college football team. With. the Jackson County failure to extend their sales tax for the Chiefs and Royals, if the Texan Hunts who own the Chiefs don't get what they want in the Kansas City area, that Alamodome may still land a NFL team... San Antonio's metro has passed the Kansas City metro population, and its demographics is similar. Add not too far away Austin's metro to San Antonio's metro, South Central Texas is TWICE as large as Kansas City's metro... And yes, San Antonio will spruce up the Alamodome to whatever the Hunts wish...
Montreal's Olympic stadium costs over a billion dollars in 1976 dollars, wasn't finished until sometime in the early 2000's. now it's gunna half a billion to demolish it
The Pyramid has served its purpose pretty well. Pretty much replaced everything the Midsouth coliseum was used for. Monster trucks, WWF and WCW wrestling shows, Tyson vs Lewis. And ever since it was built one of the main things Memphis was known for and the first thing you see as you cross the bridge. Even now the only thing that is more known than the pyramid in Memphis is the city crime and murder rate lol
The St Louis dome is now being used for UFL in the spring football league. If that league can continue growth and popularity maybe it’ll become a quality venue again
What was really awful about when the Rams were in St Louis, they never got to host a Super Bowl. When other cold weather places like Indy, Detroit, and the Twin Cities that have dome stadiums they've hosted at least once.
@@ratesforless If I recall correctly World Championship Wrestling was the name of the show at first and then they changed the name of the company to WCW. I loved watching that and Memphis Wrestling when i was growing up.
When I lived in Chicago, I really enjoyed going to White Sox games and never thought there was anything wrong with the stadium. It's easy to get in and out of there on the CTA, it doesn't feel like a shopping mall, etc. Yes, there are no "views of the outside" but what did you want a view of, traffic on the Dan Ryan?
Back in the late 80s, there was a serious proposal to build a multipurpose domed stadium with an attached convention center in Boston. Both the Red Sox and Patriots were interested in this. If that thing got built, it would have opened a year or two after Camden Yards. What a disaster that would have been.
Older arenas such as Madison Square Garden in Manhattan, NYC and what's now Oakland Arena had been heavily renovated while the Bradley Center was still standing, so it's as if the Bradley Center was standing still for way too long. I can't believe the Bradley Center didn't last longer than it did. Things got so bad that then-deputy NBA commissioner Adam Silver dismissed the arena as an NBA facility nearly a quarter century after it opened its doors. That's when you know things have gone downhill.
I’m from Columbus. Crew Stadium was in a fairly ran down area on town, large part of why they opted to build the new one, the new one is considerably nicer also though.
@@Sazikbubblefluff Oh, I’m not bored at all! Life is too weird and wild to be bored. By the way, as “grammar-police” is a denominalized adjective and noun combination acting as a compound verb, it’s best rendered with a hyphen.
@@defchan1970 I’m here to stick up for the grammar practitioner! Feral apostrophes are writing’s equivalent of that massive hunk of spinach protruding from between your date’s teeth. It’s ugly and cringe.
Amway Arena (Orlando) another one that was short lived, 21 years at a price tag of $110 million (in 1989, not current dollars). Like some others mentioned in the video, built at just the wrong time - better than the arenas built in the decades before it, but quickly outdone by those built after it in the early to mid-1990s
Magic fan here. Amway Arena (née Orlando Arena, AKA the O-Rena) was pretty much rendered obsolete by the time it opened. Its price tag would be over US$280M in 2024 money. The capacity was too small at first, but that issue was fixed. One thing that doomed the O-Rena was the luxury suites because they had the unfortunate combination of being as expensive as you would expect and being near the ceiling, making them the worst seats in the house. The Pistons moved into The Palace of Auburn Hills (Mich.) the year before the O-Rena opened and it had luxury suites that were located in a more reasonable part of the arena (even Milwaukee's Bradley Center, which also opened in '88, had suites in a better place), so the O-Rena was being outdone both before and soon after it opened. The Palace changed the arena game and the O-Rena had no hope of keeping up.
Old Crew Stadium can still be used for other sorts of events, like HS and small college football and that sort of thing, events that don't particularly require top-of-the-line accommodation.
The place is still ok, it’s not the most a accommodating one of the reasons they wanted to build a new one was the location. Crew Stadium is in a fairly ran down area of town.
Honorable mention to the Mt Davis addition to the Oakland Coliseum. Even the Raiders tarp’d off the top sections of seats for their games for a few years before they left. And it wasn’t designed for economical quick conversions. Union ironworkers had to come in and build out the lower seating sections for the football configuration.
Saw the Wings vs. the Flames in 1977 when I was 12. Flew down from Detroit during a blizzard and it was 60 degrees in Feb. I thought it was awesome! Dan Boooooouchard!
Transworld dome was an oddity. I remember chatter at the time about why a St Louis sports arena should have a dome at all, but then when the ncaa announced that only large domes would be considered for the Final Four, it looked like they may have been onto something. Then other Midwestern cities argued whether their new football stadiums should follow suit. Seems like you're damned if you do, damned if you don't sometimes.
The Metrodome in Minneapolis was so obsolete only 19 years into its use period that the MLB threatened to fold the Twins if they didn't have a plan for a new ballpark. League contraction plans did stall out and the Twins eventually got Target Field. Sad though that a venue like the Metrodome had to be replaced by 3 separate venues.
Baltimore has been waiting for an oval arena since 1962! A rectangular arena with a built in USELESS stage and 5,000 obstructed view (rear end) behind the hockey goal seats. The refurbished CFG Arena..the stage is gone. The obstructed view hockey goal seats are still there and yes, still a dump!
I don't agree that the Pyramid of Memphis was bizarre...unless the context of bizarre is in the spirit of being unique which is what the pyramid was in 1991 and still is today. A very out-of-the-box arena design for it's time which is refreshing. If anything it was ahead of it's time considering the arena designs of its contemporaries. I toured the Pyramid in '94 and was rather impressed. The exterior was spectacular, especially at night . The interior was ok, nothing spectacular. I just loved the fact that it was a pyramid...hence unique. Also the city of Memphis is the name of an a city in ancient Egypt, so the choice of a pyramid design was logical/appropriate. I recall seeing two Egyptian statues on the outside perimeter which added to the Egyptian theme. I can't speak to any interior design flaws that reduced the pyramid to a sports/concert venue that wasn't sustainable, however on the upside it was reinvented which is something that is seldom ever done with sports arenas. They usually end up with a fate that involves demolition. Having an ongoing pyramid in Memphis is that very rare nod to ancient history which makes it one of a kind. As for new Comiskey, well it looks about as good as it can possibly look. Is it terrible stadium? Not in my opinion Is it unremarkable? Definitely. It should have been designed to emulate the original park. Is it very accessible regarding the commute? Absolutely. Is it great for watching a game? Certainly. The views are excellent in my opinion. Are the White Sox a terrible team? You can bet your ass they are...but i digress. A horrible venue would define the current stadium for the Oakland Athletics. In direct comparison, I can guarantee you, the reader, that new Comiskey is much better....pun intended. 😜 Hopefully the White Sox can secure a new stadium in the next few years that is not a burden to the Illinois taxpayers , at a more logical & scenic location that is well-designed. The site under consideration would be an fantastic location for them to acquire.
As a Georgia native, you are so right about the old Omni; It was falling apart before it was 20 years old. It also settled more than the designer thought it would, which ultimately made the roof unstable, so yeah, it lasted far short of what they intended.
No kidding. They had to put chain link fences in certain spots to keep folks from being able to walk in for free. And the roof leaked like crazy during bad storms...
You could put the HHH Metrodome into this. The only stadium in BOTH leagues to be completed under its budged cost. Because of the various contracts in place with the venue (Mike Lynn), and the fact that nothing could be done to help increase revenue. the Twins were already complaining about a new venue in the late 1990's when the building was less than 20 years old.
When the Seattle Memorial Coliseum was renovated to Key Arena in the mid 90s, it then quickly became obsolete 10 years later. Not many suites, seating all around was tight, not suitable for NHL hockey. As one of the reasons why former Seattle SuperSonics owner Howard Shultz wanted the city & State to build a brand new arena. Wasn’t unable to do he sold the team to an OKC group & the rest is history. Luckily all of Key Arena (except for the roof - from the original coliseum) was completely torn out & a brand new arena underneath the roof was built for hockey, basketball & concerts as Climate Pledge Arena.
3:48 Well, there’s much more to it than that. Essentially when the Rams moved to St. Louis, the city was supposed to partially fund a stadium that was in the top 25% of NFL stadiums, and maintain that quality, or, pay a penalty to ownership. When Kroenke took over, he used the stadium against St. Louis and demanded a new stadium be built, when they didn’t, he took the opportunity to move back to LA like he wanted to since he’d been on staff.
A pyramid in Memphis may look bizarre in Tennessee but makes total sense as Memphis was a major center in ancient Egypt. So the idea did make sense but, it was bizarre in reality.
Add in the Market Square Arena, Indianapolis ..... opened in 1974, closed 1999 and imploded 2001. Notable for being the host of Elvis's final concert ....
Columbus had a proposed stadium in the 1980's that was designed to attract the NFL St. Louis Cardinals. The problem: it was going to be a multi-purpose baseball/football stadium, the AAA NY Yankees affiliate Clippers baseball team would have been the other tenant. Thankfully, a ballot measure to fund the stadium failed. As for the MLS and the previous Crew ownership, they went about things the wrong way, even if Original Crew Stadium was antiquated by current standards.
I feel that the Minneapolis Armory (once home to the Minneapolis Lakers) could also be on this list. It was definitely an odd venue for sports, but it wasn't meant to be used as a venue in the first place.
Ironically, State Farm Arena only holds 16,888 before factoring in the standing room area, which puts capacity over 18k. The Hawks sell it out now as opposed to back then, but still...
It's intentionally sterile since both the Giants and Jets co-own the place and they can't show much favoritism towards one team or another. Each team does have a special area in the building (Giants Hall of Fame, Jets private party room) and it's probably going to be like that fore many many years. (I have been on multiple tours of the facility... I hear the locker rooms are all very modern, the public is not allowed in them).
The Great American Pyramid in Menmphis was supposed to be more than just the Pyramid when they announced it and planned for it, but Memphis got conned by Sidney Schlenker (spelling is probably wrong). They had to cut back to the bare minimum. It was cool on the inside, but the inside had horrible acoustics. At the time it wasn't a bad basketball arena but it wasn't built with NBA suites in mind, so they had to build the Fed Ex Forum. Love the job that bass pro shops did with it though.
I saw an ncaa basketball game at the pyramid in Memphis. It was pretty cool from the outside. This was in 2000 i think. I do remember it was kind of hard to walk to (off a highway maybe?) from the hotel. I’m guessing the grizzlies current arena is better situated.
Dont be dissing Bass Mecca my brother. LoL. I recently found out it was completed in 88. That blew my mind. It became obsolete so fast. Johnny Morris really saved that place.
The Memphis pyramid was supposed to be the original home of the rock n roll hall of fame but the city got burned on it by a coke head & Dick Clark backed out & took it to Cleveland, before it closed as a public thing I did get to met EVH ,never forget that r.i.p EVH
Other ones: Georgia Dome Atlanta, GA Olympic Stadium / Turner Field Atlanta, GA (Atlanta just sucks here :) ) I know the stadium was repurposed again for college football, but... Arco Arena (both) Sacramento, CA
We were driving through Memphis I said “hey there’s the Pyramid,” and my wife says. “What pyramid?” (Long pause.) “I mean I see the pyramid, but why the hell is there a pyramid.”
The STL dome was built as it was because the city had no team. I remember people sitting around, watching TV, just itching to run out and purchase their "St. Louis Stallions" gear. The sporting goods stores all stayed open late. Jacksonville got the Jags, STL got screwed. Sure, the LA Rams spent a few years there. The city has been in decline since the post WW2 flight to the suburbs. What was once the 3rd largest city in the US doesn't even crack the top 50. St. Louis is DEAD.
Levi Stadium is an absolute car wreck of a stadium. What might have worked at the old Candlestick location absolutely doesn't, where it was eventually built.
Truist park needs to be here because it was redundantly built twenty years after turner field was, turner field wasn't showing its age or anything like that, also truist park is in a bad area, it's at least an hour and beyond far away from Atlanta.
Agreed i visited as a neutral last year. Needed an uber, train, bus and then 25 min walk to get there. Getting back it took an hour+ for an uber or lyft
The Braves are claiming that their new stadium is closer to their fans. Turner Field was originally built for the Olympics & the Braves wanted a stadium built more for baseball. There was also the idea of a baseball village with businesses around the stadium.
Turner Field was in the middle of a run down slum. In 20 years, nothing was built up around it because no sane company wanted to invest there, including the Braves, and no bank would underwrite a loan in that area. Truist Park is the centerpiece of an entertainment district that is allowing the Braves to make way more money than they ever could at Turner Field, which was obsolete well before they left. Not to mention, they're out of crime-ridden Atlanta.
Columbus Stadium... You say "When MLS was not what it is today." Well, what is MLS today? It is a league where NASCAR will show instead of a schedules MLS broadcast.
@@billbeliakoff5589 So, *your* argument boils down to WS wins? Thought we were talking about a 30-year old POS stadium compared to a 110-year old National Historic Landmark. Sorry, GRF is a 2nd rate ballpark at best. Cheers....
@@bazzer124 You said "The quality of Guaranteed Rate Field matches the quality of the team that plays there." To me that says it boils down to wins and losses. And the only things that have land mark status are the marquee, the ivy and the manually operated scoreboard.
Mapfre in Columbus is still a iconic landmark in Columbus even tho the mls team here moved closer to downtown. It still hosts the Columbus crew 2 soccer team (basically the developmental team for our mls team) and i think a woman’s team also plays there the Columbus eagles
You lose 10 points for incorrectly putting an apostrophe in "Arenas," when it should only have one if you're contracting "Arena" and "is," or you're talking about something the place owns. (And don't get me started about people who confuse "its" and "it's"!)
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Seems Miami Arena would be a prime example. It opened for the Miami Heat in 1988 and later was also home to the NHL Florida Panthers. Both teams bailed for new arenas before 2000.
Yeah that was very strange. Anyone know the reason why? Too small?
@@abp1400I believe it was one of the smaller NBA arenas. It was pretty basic too. The team wanted more frills and luxury boxes to sell.
As a basketball arena, the pyramid wasn’t great. As a Bass Pro Shop, it’s awesome.
If nothing else, the bar at the top makes it one Hell of a Jeff Foxworthy setup ("If the most expensive beer you ever drank was bought at Bass Pro Shops...")
I actually went to two NBA games and one SEC tournament game at The Pyramid. I don't really remember much about the arena, which probably speaks to how uninspiring it was.
The Alamodome in San Antonio, TX could easily be on this list.
Back in 2019, the Alamodome was ranked as the third worst stadium in college football. It was also terrible for NBA basketball.
The Alamodome was built to attract a NFL team, so far it hasn't. However, other pro football leagues have called the Alamodome home, as well as a college football team. With. the Jackson County failure to extend their sales tax for the Chiefs and Royals, if the Texan Hunts who own the Chiefs don't get what they want in the Kansas City area, that Alamodome may still land a NFL team... San Antonio's metro has passed the Kansas City metro population, and its demographics is similar. Add not too far away Austin's metro to San Antonio's metro, South Central Texas is TWICE as large as Kansas City's metro... And yes, San Antonio will spruce up the Alamodome to whatever the Hunts wish...
Alamodome followed the Trop example, but they don’t have a team lol
@@ronclark9724chiefs ain't going nowhere anytime soon, they'd sooner move across the state line to Kansas than to the old Alamodome
It doesn't even meet NFL specifications now and I'm not sure if an extensive renovation would help at this point.
The empty Pyramid was so creepy. You can see it on the bridge from Arkansas and it creeped me out for some reason.
How about the Ballpark in Arlington. Should’ve been built as a dome because of the Texas heat in the summer. Had to wait till 2020 to finally get it.
The Rangers had to host some Sunday games at night whether ESPN was there or not as a result of that.
It was a beautiful park though.
Montreal's Olympic stadium costs over a billion dollars in 1976 dollars, wasn't finished until sometime in the early 2000's. now it's gunna half a billion to demolish it
I still can't believe the colossal disaster its retractable roof was. Oof.
How did the big Owe not make the list?
The Pyramid has served its purpose pretty well. Pretty much replaced everything the Midsouth coliseum was used for. Monster trucks, WWF and WCW wrestling shows, Tyson vs Lewis. And ever since it was built one of the main things Memphis was known for and the first thing you see as you cross the bridge. Even now the only thing that is more known than the pyramid in Memphis is the city crime and murder rate lol
*_HA!_*
The Memphis wrestling shows at the old Mid-South Coliseum were the stuff of legend.
The St Louis dome is now being used for UFL in the spring football league. If that league can continue growth and popularity maybe it’ll become a quality venue again
The concourses are severely dated yet really wide. So a lot can be done with it if there is will to renovate the facility.
It's the XFL . @@johnsamoilis6379
Why whining sports teams obsolete. What are we to say to the LORD?
What was really awful about when the Rams were in St Louis, they never got to host a Super Bowl. When other cold weather places like Indy, Detroit, and the Twin Cities that have dome stadiums they've hosted at least once.
When I hear the words "The Omni in Atlanta" the first thing that pops into my mind is wrestling on TBS.
WCW Bruther
Georgia Championship Wrestling before Crockett had it changed to WCW...
@@ratesforless If I recall correctly World Championship Wrestling was the name of the show at first and then they changed the name of the company to WCW. I loved watching that and Memphis Wrestling when i was growing up.
Hey, Bass Pro Shop's doin' fine.
When I lived in Chicago, I really enjoyed going to White Sox games and never thought there was anything wrong with the stadium. It's easy to get in and out of there on the CTA, it doesn't feel like a shopping mall, etc. Yes, there are no "views of the outside" but what did you want a view of, traffic on the Dan Ryan?
Back in the late 80s, there was a serious proposal to build a multipurpose domed stadium with an attached convention center in Boston. Both the Red Sox and Patriots were interested in this. If that thing got built, it would have opened a year or two after Camden Yards. What a disaster that would have been.
Bradley Center in Milwaukee, amazing gift from that family but built at the wrong time
Being from Milwaukee and been to the Bradley center many times, I can't argue with your point.
Older arenas such as Madison Square Garden in Manhattan, NYC and what's now Oakland Arena had been heavily renovated while the Bradley Center was still standing, so it's as if the Bradley Center was standing still for way too long. I can't believe the Bradley Center didn't last longer than it did. Things got so bad that then-deputy NBA commissioner Adam Silver dismissed the arena as an NBA facility nearly a quarter century after it opened its doors. That's when you know things have gone downhill.
I’m from Columbus. Crew Stadium was in a fairly ran down area on town, large part of why they opted to build the new one, the new one is considerably nicer also though.
Just a proofread tip: “Arenas” doesn’t take an apostrophe if it’s a simple plural on your thumbnail title.
Imagine being so pedantic that you grammar police TH-cam videos. How bored are you?
@@Sazikbubblefluff Oh, I’m not bored at all! Life is too weird and wild to be bored.
By the way, as “grammar-police” is a denominalized adjective and noun combination acting as a compound verb, it’s best rendered with a hyphen.
@@Sazikbubblefluff Imagine being so pedantic you grammar-police the grammar police on TH-cam videos. How bored are YOU?
@@defchan1970
I’m here to stick up for the grammar practitioner!
Feral apostrophes are writing’s equivalent of that massive hunk of spinach protruding from between your date’s teeth. It’s ugly and cringe.
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Amway Arena (Orlando) another one that was short lived, 21 years at a price tag of $110 million (in 1989, not current dollars).
Like some others mentioned in the video, built at just the wrong time - better than the arenas built in the decades before it, but quickly outdone by those built after it in the early to mid-1990s
Magic fan here. Amway Arena (née Orlando Arena, AKA the O-Rena) was pretty much rendered obsolete by the time it opened. Its price tag would be over US$280M in 2024 money. The capacity was too small at first, but that issue was fixed. One thing that doomed the O-Rena was the luxury suites because they had the unfortunate combination of being as expensive as you would expect and being near the ceiling, making them the worst seats in the house. The Pistons moved into The Palace of Auburn Hills (Mich.) the year before the O-Rena opened and it had luxury suites that were located in a more reasonable part of the arena (even Milwaukee's Bradley Center, which also opened in '88, had suites in a better place), so the O-Rena was being outdone both before and soon after it opened. The Palace changed the arena game and the O-Rena had no hope of keeping up.
That was one I was thinking of too. The Magic were wanting to replace it or renovate it by raising the roof as early as 2001.
Amway went away... it's Orlando.gov Kia Center. Orlando Magic 🏀 is the main draw.
Old Crew Stadium can still be used for other sorts of events, like HS and small college football and that sort of thing, events that don't particularly require top-of-the-line accommodation.
that’s exactly what it’s used for today. there’s an overhang for concerts too
The place is still ok, it’s not the most a accommodating one of the reasons they wanted to build a new one was the location. Crew Stadium is in a fairly ran down area of town.
Honorable mention to the Mt Davis addition to the Oakland Coliseum. Even the Raiders tarp’d off the top sections of seats for their games for a few years before they left. And it wasn’t designed for economical quick conversions. Union ironworkers had to come in and build out the lower seating sections for the football configuration.
Seen the Grateful Dead at the Omni in 91. That thing was trulysmall.
Saw South Korea play Yugoslavia there in 96 (volleyball) Serb fans are insane
Saw the Wings vs. the Flames in 1977 when I was 12. Flew down from Detroit during a blizzard and it was 60 degrees in Feb. I thought it was awesome! Dan Boooooouchard!
Love your content. The Charlotte Coliseum and Alamodome ought to be "honorable" mentions.
How the hell is the Georgia Dome and Turner Field both not on the list?
FP already made videos on those two places.
The Omni was a great place for the NWA. Ric Flair vs Dusty Rhodes
The dome in St. Louis was doomed from the start as it was built primarily for large conventions.
Which makes it kind of un-"doomed" as it is literally more profitable now than it was when the Rams played there...
Or as Battlehawks fans call it, “the Battledome.”
Transworld dome was an oddity. I remember chatter at the time about why a St Louis sports arena should have a dome at all, but then when the ncaa announced that only large domes would be considered for the Final Four, it looked like they may have been onto something. Then other Midwestern cities argued whether their new football stadiums should follow suit. Seems like you're damned if you do, damned if you don't sometimes.
Miami Arena should be on this list. It had a 10 year life.
I'm stunned that it lasted only 11 years. The HEAT and the Panthers couldn't escape it fast enough!
The Metrodome in Minneapolis was so obsolete only 19 years into its use period that the MLB threatened to fold the Twins if they didn't have a plan for a new ballpark. League contraction plans did stall out and the Twins eventually got Target Field. Sad though that a venue like the Metrodome had to be replaced by 3 separate venues.
At one point it had 4 minnesota sports tenants, gopher football, wolves, twins, vikings
The first year there was no air conditioning. Brutal.
The black and white scoreboard was an embarrassment
FedEx Field and the old arena in Charlotte.
Baltimore has been waiting for an oval arena since 1962! A rectangular arena with a built in USELESS stage and 5,000 obstructed view (rear end) behind the hockey goal seats. The refurbished CFG Arena..the stage is gone. The obstructed view hockey goal seats are still there and yes, still a dump!
It's lipstick on a pig...with a deal of mascara.
I don't agree that the Pyramid of Memphis was bizarre...unless the context of bizarre is in the spirit of being unique which is what the pyramid was in 1991 and still is today. A very out-of-the-box arena design for it's time which is refreshing.
If anything it was ahead of it's time considering the arena designs of its contemporaries.
I toured the Pyramid in '94 and was rather impressed. The exterior was spectacular, especially at night . The interior was ok, nothing spectacular. I just loved the fact that it was a pyramid...hence unique.
Also the city of Memphis is the name of an a city in ancient Egypt, so the choice of a pyramid design was logical/appropriate. I recall seeing two Egyptian statues on the outside perimeter which added to the Egyptian theme.
I can't speak to any interior design flaws that reduced the pyramid to a sports/concert venue that wasn't sustainable, however on the upside it was reinvented which is something that is seldom ever done with sports arenas. They usually end up with a fate that involves demolition. Having an ongoing pyramid in Memphis is that very rare nod to ancient history which makes it one of a kind.
As for new Comiskey, well it looks about as good as it can possibly look. Is it terrible stadium?
Not in my opinion
Is it unremarkable?
Definitely. It should have been designed to emulate the original park.
Is it very accessible regarding the commute?
Absolutely.
Is it great for watching a game?
Certainly.
The views are excellent in my opinion.
Are the White Sox a terrible team?
You can bet your ass they are...but i digress.
A horrible venue would define the current stadium for the Oakland Athletics. In direct comparison, I can guarantee you, the reader, that new Comiskey is much better....pun intended. 😜
Hopefully the White Sox can secure a new stadium in the next few years that is not a burden to the Illinois taxpayers , at a more logical & scenic location that is well-designed. The site under consideration would be an fantastic location for them to acquire.
It's horrible use of space, it would make more sense as an inverted pyramid since it's the slope the inner bowl needs.
As a Georgia native, you are so right about the old Omni; It was falling apart before it was 20 years old. It also settled more than the designer thought it would, which ultimately made the roof unstable, so yeah, it lasted far short of what they intended.
No kidding. They had to put chain link fences in certain spots to keep folks from being able to walk in for free. And the roof leaked like crazy during bad storms...
You could put the HHH Metrodome into this. The only stadium in BOTH leagues to be completed under its budged cost.
Because of the various contracts in place with the venue (Mike Lynn), and the fact that nothing could be done to help increase revenue. the Twins were already complaining about a new venue in the late 1990's when the building was less than 20 years old.
Guaranteed rate is closer to downtown Chicago than Wrigley.
And is more fun than wrigley
@@pierosanchez2010no its not, literally the worst baseball experience
@@chrisitalia8868I agree.. a ballpark with nothing to do around and just one bar. LAME
Well that certainly gives them a reason to leave Chicago for a new market lol.
When the Seattle Memorial Coliseum was renovated to Key Arena in the mid 90s, it then quickly became obsolete 10 years later. Not many suites, seating all around was tight, not suitable for NHL hockey. As one of the reasons why former Seattle SuperSonics owner Howard Shultz wanted the city & State to build a brand new arena. Wasn’t unable to do he sold the team to an OKC group & the rest is history. Luckily all of Key Arena (except for the roof - from the original coliseum) was completely torn out & a brand new arena underneath the roof was built for hockey, basketball & concerts as Climate Pledge Arena.
3:48
Well, there’s much more to it than that.
Essentially when the Rams moved to St. Louis, the city was supposed to partially fund a stadium that was in the top 25% of NFL stadiums, and maintain that quality, or, pay a penalty to ownership.
When Kroenke took over, he used the stadium against St. Louis and demanded a new stadium be built, when they didn’t, he took the opportunity to move back to LA like he wanted to since he’d been on staff.
Worst part of the Memphis pyramid was how close the seats were together it was unbearable for a person over 6 ft I promise you.
I can confirm that.
I concur. Very tight arrangement.
The St. Louis rams stadium really wasn’t that bad. But Levi is already outdate along with MetLife
That pyramid was...odd.
A pyramid in Memphis may look bizarre in Tennessee but makes total sense as Memphis was a major center in ancient Egypt. So the idea did make sense but, it was bizarre in reality.
Add in the Market Square Arena, Indianapolis ..... opened in 1974, closed 1999 and imploded 2001. Notable for being the host of Elvis's final concert ....
Columbus had a proposed stadium in the 1980's that was designed to attract the NFL St. Louis Cardinals. The problem: it was going to be a multi-purpose baseball/football stadium, the AAA NY Yankees affiliate Clippers baseball team would have been the other tenant. Thankfully, a ballot measure to fund the stadium failed. As for the MLS and the previous Crew ownership, they went about things the wrong way, even if Original Crew Stadium was antiquated by current standards.
the georgia dome could be on here like the edward jones dome was… though it was better, it also didn’t last very long.
Look up the story of the Darlington Arena here in the UK.
Arco II in Sacramento was a barn on day 1 in 1988
SkyDome chuckles.
I feel that the Minneapolis Armory (once home to the Minneapolis Lakers) could also be on this list. It was definitely an odd venue for sports, but it wasn't meant to be used as a venue in the first place.
Georgia Dome opened in1992 and demolished in 2017. Hosted two Super Bowls and several Final Fours.
The Omni only seating 16.5 was plenty big enough for the Hawks
Ironically, State Farm Arena only holds 16,888 before factoring in the standing room area, which puts capacity over 18k. The Hawks sell it out now as opposed to back then, but still...
At 3:15 you have the HHH Metrodome in Minneapolis, not the EJ Dome fyi
You should do a video on the stadiums countries built for the world cup that ended up not being used anymore or basically bankrupting the country
Turner Field in Atlanta. Opened in 1996 and Braves gone after 2016.
Too bad about Comisky. Their old stadium, even with the pillars, was a relic, loved by fans, and you felt you were actually watching baseball.
Surprised about the Omni. Missed Georgia Dome, Miami Arena, Orlando Amway Arena, Turner Field.
What about Chase Field or Desert Diamond Arena?
The Pyramid in Memphis is a Bass Pro Shop
Pretty soon you'll be adding MetLife Stadium on the list of stadiums going obsolete quickly.
it’s not a bad stadium, it’s just very sterile and boring.
It's intentionally sterile since both the Giants and Jets co-own the place and they can't show much favoritism towards one team or another. Each team does have a special area in the building (Giants Hall of Fame, Jets private party room) and it's probably going to be like that fore many many years. (I have been on multiple tours of the facility... I hear the locker rooms are all very modern, the public is not allowed in them).
@@mrmoose6619 i understand that. it just makes for a lame experience. in terms of tech and what not it doesn’t seem outdated tho
The Great American Pyramid in Menmphis was supposed to be more than just the Pyramid when they announced it and planned for it, but Memphis got conned by Sidney Schlenker (spelling is probably wrong). They had to cut back to the bare minimum. It was cool on the inside, but the inside had horrible acoustics. At the time it wasn't a bad basketball arena but it wasn't built with NBA suites in mind, so they had to build the Fed Ex Forum. Love the job that bass pro shops did with it though.
Taxpayers left paying the bill too…
I saw an ncaa basketball game at the pyramid in Memphis. It was pretty cool from the outside. This was in 2000 i think. I do remember it was kind of hard to walk to (off a highway maybe?) from the hotel. I’m guessing the grizzlies current arena is better situated.
Montreal's and Atlanta's Olympic stadium
Atlanta Olympic Stadium became Turner Field for the Braves. When the Braves left Turner Field, it became a football field for Georgia State.
@@c-dogg9188 yeah but it kinda went obsolete rather quickly to be honest. Whoever remembers what the original looked like..
The people are the one's on the hook for these stadiums. Naturally there's some corporations name on them but We have to pay for them.
Dont be dissing Bass Mecca my brother. LoL. I recently found out it was completed in 88. That blew my mind. It became obsolete so fast. Johnny Morris really saved that place.
Avoids the question of why taxpayers are being roped in to subsidize sports teams belonging to billionaires
Guaranteed rate isn’t obsolete, it just sucks.
"Stadiums and Arenas that were quickly obsolete" - a better title. No apostrophe for Arenas
The Memphis pyramid was supposed to be the original home of the rock n roll hall of fame but the city got burned on it by a coke head & Dick Clark backed out & took it to Cleveland, before it closed as a public thing I did get to met EVH ,never forget that r.i.p EVH
Love the content!
Why is there a photo of Mile High Stadium when talking about domed stadiums.
The old Amway Arena in Orlando you can say as well
Georgia Dome didn't last long. It was state of the art when it opened in the early 90s. It's already been replaced.
Richfield Coliseum was only used by the Cavaliers for 19 seasons.
Arco 2 could easily be on this list. The palace opened the same year and made arco 2 obsolete just like that
Other ones:
Georgia Dome Atlanta, GA
Olympic Stadium / Turner Field Atlanta, GA (Atlanta just sucks here :) ) I know the stadium was repurposed again for college football, but...
Arco Arena (both) Sacramento, CA
We were driving through Memphis I said “hey there’s the Pyramid,” and my wife says. “What pyramid?” (Long pause.) “I mean I see the pyramid, but why the hell is there a pyramid.”
Obsolescence of a stadium is also related to the availability of public money to pay for a replacement.
The STL dome was built as it was because the city had no team. I remember people sitting around, watching TV, just itching to run out and purchase their "St. Louis Stallions" gear. The sporting goods stores all stayed open late. Jacksonville got the Jags, STL got screwed. Sure, the LA Rams spent a few years there. The city has been in decline since the post WW2 flight to the suburbs. What was once the 3rd largest city in the US doesn't even crack the top 50. St. Louis is DEAD.
The Omni was AWESOME ! I saw all the great bands there, nobody cares about BBall, it was a rock venue ! Atlanta just Loves to tear things down.
Joe Louis Arena was obsolete from day one as well. Forgot to put in a press box...etc. Wings made the best of it.
No mention of the Kingdome? I'm surprised
Levi Stadium is an absolute car wreck of a stadium. What might have worked at the old Candlestick location absolutely doesn't, where it was eventually built.
Truist park needs to be here because it was redundantly built twenty years after turner field was, turner field wasn't showing its age or anything like that, also truist park is in a bad area, it's at least an hour and beyond far away from Atlanta.
Agreed i visited as a neutral last year. Needed an uber, train, bus and then 25 min walk to get there. Getting back it took an hour+ for an uber or lyft
Truist was built as a cash grab and a bit of racism
Bro coldest take of the century, turner was literally in the hood. When you have fans getting shot by gang bangers you gotta move. As atl is gay
The Braves are claiming that their new stadium is closer to their fans. Turner Field was originally built for the Olympics & the Braves wanted a stadium built more for baseball. There was also the idea of a baseball village with businesses around the stadium.
Turner Field was in the middle of a run down slum. In 20 years, nothing was built up around it because no sane company wanted to invest there, including the Braves, and no bank would underwrite a loan in that area. Truist Park is the centerpiece of an entertainment district that is allowing the Braves to make way more money than they ever could at Turner Field, which was obsolete well before they left. Not to mention, they're out of crime-ridden Atlanta.
UGH the edward jones dome! My hometown could have totally went with an outdoor stadium! It's still on the taxpayer's dime. DOUBLE UGH!!
Why does Memphis arena make Memphis look like Pyongyang???
Levi's stadium? Nothing to do with being a Raiders fan. It's fed ex field II
Bass Pro Shop Party Rock Anthem! Hit it!
Lol, The Co-op Live Arena in Manchester England will soon be obsolete too if they don't get their act together! 🤣
You forgot the Georgia Dome.
You forgot the Kingdome.
poor planning
Columbus Stadium... You say "When MLS was not what it is today." Well, what is MLS today? It is a league where NASCAR will show instead of a schedules MLS broadcast.
The quality of Guaranteed Rate Field matches the quality of the team that plays there - pretty sh*tty. Cheers....
I think that it's better than Wrigley.
@@billbeliakoff5589 BWAHAHAHAHA! So *that's* why the Cubs average 12-15K more fans per game than the Sox. Cheers....
@@bazzer124 Since both teams have won a combined 2 World Series in the last 100 years your argument is pretty sad.
@@billbeliakoff5589 So, *your* argument boils down to WS wins? Thought we were talking about a 30-year old POS stadium compared to a 110-year old National Historic Landmark. Sorry, GRF is a 2nd rate ballpark at best. Cheers....
@@bazzer124 You said "The quality of Guaranteed Rate Field matches the quality of the team that plays there." To me that says it boils down to wins and losses. And the only things that have land mark status are the marquee, the ivy and the manually operated scoreboard.
was this narrated by Stephen Wright?
There is nothing wrong with the guarantee rate field , it has one of the best food in all mlb
please list all costs and who paid .
Mapfre in Columbus is still a iconic landmark in Columbus even tho the mls team here moved closer to downtown. It still hosts the Columbus crew 2 soccer team (basically the developmental team for our mls team) and i think a woman’s team also plays there the Columbus eagles
Stadiums are obsolete anyway. Wastes of money and space better suited for a housing and subdivisions.
Arenas.
The graphic says arena's. This is a mistake.
No apostrophe for plural.
SOON....not quickly.
Where's the skydome in Toronto??
The world's biggest toilet bowl!!!
The "new" Comiskey?
Kroenke was *always* going to abandon St. Louis, from day one...
Video’s that are incorrectly punctuated
You lose 10 points for incorrectly putting an apostrophe in "Arenas," when it should only have one if you're contracting "Arena" and "is," or you're talking about something the place owns. (And don't get me started about people who confuse "its" and "it's"!)