Sabian Cymbals Factory Tour Part 1 of 4

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  • In-depth tour of the Sabian Cymbal Factory.
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  • @markhealey3660
    @markhealey3660 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I have been playing Sabian since 2007. Best cymbal made according to my ears. Thank you.

  • @mexicanmaggot666
    @mexicanmaggot666 10 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Ever since I started drumming, there's no other cymbal in the world I'd rather play than a Sabian. And it's because of their very mission statement and the amazing roster of people that work for and with the company. R.I.P. Bob Zildjian. Thank you for making amazing cymbals for people to enjoy.

  • @MrJireh09
    @MrJireh09 10 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    By far THE BEST cymbals...and ALWAYS putting new stuff on the market!

    • @Burps___
      @Burps___ 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      MrJireh09 Paiste?

    • @thenecropolis_ov_former_lo3396
      @thenecropolis_ov_former_lo3396 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Cool One more like dinner plates lol. nah use what you like but I think sabian is better.

    • @afterlifeyt9073
      @afterlifeyt9073 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      sabians suck bro meinl or zildjian better

    • @MrJireh09
      @MrJireh09 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@afterlifeyt9073 dude!! you resurected an old post LOL...10 years later i can tell you ZILDJIAN and sabien are great...never try MEINL

  • @SXI96
    @SXI96 6 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I love how environmentally conscious and sustainable Sabian is. They conserve water usage and recycle literally everything. AWESOME job! Not to mention they also make incredible cymbals. Just listen to Dave Abbruzzese's drumming with Pearl Jam.

  • @funkodrummer9415
    @funkodrummer9415 11 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Love Sabian and always will and always will play Sabian and nothing else, r.i.p. bob zildjian thank you for making kick ass cymbals

  • @tc7362
    @tc7362 5 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    Impressive, it's nice to see in this technology age that actual hands on craftsmanship still exists...

    • @axismc33
      @axismc33 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yup, but this is from 2010

  • @Atomic_Haggis
    @Atomic_Haggis 8 ปีที่แล้ว

    Brilliant. It's great to see the diversity between Zildjian and Sabian. Quite a few different techniques between the two. Thanks for sharing this.

  • @DemetrioAlbidrez
    @DemetrioAlbidrez 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    The Final stage of each of the cymbals made . Sounds like a shattering of glass the Perfection of Making SABINA Cymbals !!
    Great 👍 Video !!

  • @dennisn1672
    @dennisn1672 5 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Been using the AXX brilliant finish for 35 years. Never let me down. Some are over 12 years old and still sound amazing. Sabian is the best cymbals ever produced by far.

    • @Vivi2372
      @Vivi2372 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @Ian Soberano what a childish view of the world you have. You do realize SABIAN was founded by a Zildjian right? The name isn't 300 years old but the pedigree sure as hell is. Your loyalty to brands is rather naive at best.

  • @rushton84
    @rushton84 8 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Took the tour of this factory yesterday! Great bunch of people there and they even re-buffed and re-logo'd one of my older cymbals and it's like new!

  • @gunarsbrants8429
    @gunarsbrants8429 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    Bravo guys ! Absolutely awesome ! Loved the tour and I love using your symbols in my studio.! Cheers !

  • @jamesarnold5554
    @jamesarnold5554 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I've always been proud to play Sabian cymbals!!!!!

  • @randysanchez8188
    @randysanchez8188 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    i have a TAMA drumset but i use both ZILDJIAN,SABIAN and PAISTE cymbals depending what sound i like and depends on a song,

  • @JoeyP322
    @JoeyP322 5 ปีที่แล้ว +34

    I used to think that cymbals were expensive... after watching this I think they’re not as expensive as they should be!!! Man, what a process !!!

    • @Dummertrummer
      @Dummertrummer 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      I guess many drummers (incl myself) had that wake-up call. I couldn't believe my eyes when I was younger and saw that price-tag. :P

    • @johncole4882
      @johncole4882 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Shhhh

  • @TheSuperfakir
    @TheSuperfakir 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Sabian son uno de los mejores platos. Su brillo. Su claridad. Y su gran variedad de platillos y sonidos. Realmente son geniales.

  • @joshlybecker3476
    @joshlybecker3476 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Pretty dope knowing where my cymbals were born. Thanks for an amazing product ladies n gents!! #Sabian4life

  • @RoughAndWretchedRAW
    @RoughAndWretchedRAW 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Gotta say: I am impressed by how much of the process at Sabian is actually done by hand. I watched a video by Zildjian and most of their process is automated. Then again, it does back up the family fall out story that caused the founding of Sabian. One brother being the face who retained the original company and the other who was in the factory and founded Sabian. Automated produces a good quality but only hand crafting will produce unique and one of a kind results.

    • @rjsal246
      @rjsal246 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Rough And Wretched R.A.W. Very true, do you think they are still producing them the same way?

    • @RoughAndWretchedRAW
      @RoughAndWretchedRAW 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@rjsal246 No clue. All I can say is automation may produce quantity and repeatability but it does not produce quality and uniqueness.
      Then again, I just watched a video that said the pro or amateur status of a drummer can be determined solely by their drum set up. Vocalists are using autotune and backing tracks and folks can't seem to play without click tracks. So maybe quality. talent and individuality are no longer relevant.

    • @Customwinder1
      @Customwinder1 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      The HH and HHX and artisan cymbals are among the lines still produced the old way.
      AA are automated anvil. And all of the cheaper cymbals are mass produced.
      And individuality and talent still count. Top 40 and the like is made for the masses. To make money.
      Go see a local band and support local music 👍

    • @rsilvers129
      @rsilvers129 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      they are virtually identical. Both use automatic hammer machines. Sabian just chose to show a hand hammered model being made. That is a very tiny percentage of what they sell.

  • @Customwinder1
    @Customwinder1 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I've been getting together a full set of Sabian cymbals for my kits. Really old 90's AA series. And scored an old 18" AAX Xplosion crash . They sll sound great !

  • @bernarddowd6446
    @bernarddowd6446 ปีที่แล้ว

    I'm a truck driver from Halifax, NS, one province over from NB. I have delivered to the Sabian factory numerous times and had the tour there. I have talked to some of the people who hand hammer the high end cymbals. Really nice people, even talked to a guy who made Neil Peart's cymbals.

  • @ThaDrumaH
    @ThaDrumaH 14 ปีที่แล้ว

    way to go guys.. vids like this are THE most awesome thing. thanks to you and Sabian for posting this.
    Chris

  • @earlbrackett6508
    @earlbrackett6508 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    Sabian's constant innovation in new cymbals and quality control maintains their #1 status...Ive got a 40 year old pair of hats made in their Italian plant...just beautiful...

  • @Customwinder1
    @Customwinder1 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Just got myself some old AA cymbals. Love them . They sound great.

  • @rodstewart74
    @rodstewart74 5 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    I sent my Sabian 16" AAX-Plosion crash cymbal (Brilliant) to be changed to a "Natural" finish to this factory in Maine. I can't wait to hear how it sounds in about 6-8 weeks
    UPDATE: Received my cymbal last month and it sounds amazing. Has a more dry echo hum that's consistent with what I play, plus I can't see my distinct finger prints as much as before. Traditional is the way. Next my 18" cymbal. Thanks, Sabian
    UPDATE: Had my 18" AAX-Plosion cymbal finished to "Natural" and I like the results!

    • @litchar
      @litchar 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Sabians are Canadian and this factory is in Meductic New Brunswick but I'm glad you got good results from whatever body shop in Maine refinished them for you.

    • @rodstewart74
      @rodstewart74 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@litchar Yeah, they did a pretty good solid finish on both my cymbals and it was very cheap. It still shows the "CANADA" signature stamp on them, which I love knowing that's where they originated from. I think they are a joint team between boarders. Very communicative and trustworthy from my experience.

  • @TheCarelessAquarius
    @TheCarelessAquarius 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I’m a Sabian guy and will be for life. When I first started playing years ago late 80’s early 90’s I played only Zildjian. I ended up playing guitar professionally in a rock band for years. After touring millions of miles, being signed to three record deals. I’ve came back around and am in a position that I can actually go back to practicing the drums again. My drummer always used Sabian and that’s where my love of this company came from. The fact that Bob broke away from Zildjian and started his own successful cymbal company. I love the underdog story and always will!

  • @MK-ze8xu
    @MK-ze8xu 5 ปีที่แล้ว +20

    I really hope these guys get paid some good money. This is pretty much a skilled trade or craft and then being there as long as they have

    • @bryandrums32
      @bryandrums32 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      M K dam right

    • @doknox
      @doknox 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      For real. Plus some of those cymbals go for 5-600 a piece. I paid 900 for a zildjian hi hat crash and ride. It's worth it though. Cheap cymbals sound like just clanking metal.

  • @indieHindleyMusic
    @indieHindleyMusic 12 ปีที่แล้ว +17

    Fun Fact: SABIAN was named after the first 2 letters of Bob Zildjian's 3 kids Sally,Billy & Andy. :)

    • @kaan898
      @kaan898 6 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      another fun fact,sabi means kid,children in Turkish and -an Armenian annex... Sabian...

    • @petegabittas3410
      @petegabittas3410 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Kind of fucked up how it all works so perfectly!

  • @anthonyarruda1145
    @anthonyarruda1145 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    I freakin love my xsr set it is simply amazing you guys rock

  • @eagleflyfree3975
    @eagleflyfree3975 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I love it ...Sabian is my favourite 🤘😁😍

  • @crashboombang8163
    @crashboombang8163 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Very happy with my 13" hats and 21" ride 23 years and counting!

  • @ruff2007
    @ruff2007 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    great video.i'll love this job.just think bands that make hit records use these cymbals.thats the pride of this craft.good job sabian crew.

  • @nelsonrodriguez4199
    @nelsonrodriguez4199 8 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Great educational video for us drummers, it's very cool to know this way where your cymbals came from, all my cymbals are Sabian except for my Ride wich is a Zildjian A Custom Ping Ride wich I love but I also want to purchase the HH Raw Bell Dry Ride, it sounds really sweet in the videos. Keep up the good work making the best cymbals out there!! 👍

    • @jmromero6381
      @jmromero6381 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      nelson Rodriguez Love the ping ride! I always asked the drummers I played with to use it whenever they thought they should. Especially along with my guitar solos, so they didn't suck as much.

  • @omukssbm
    @omukssbm 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hand hammering cymbals at Sabian for over 25 years, longer than I've been alive. Now THAT is some dedication.

  • @EmersonCapuano
    @EmersonCapuano 12 ปีที่แล้ว

    Both cymbals have beautiful sounds

  • @memoton
    @memoton 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    its so satisfying looking at the machine put on the logo:0

  • @DrSovertake
    @DrSovertake 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    So satisfying to see it being lathed

  • @beAllbugger
    @beAllbugger 12 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Yeah, if you spend the dough you can find some fine cymbals excluding no brand names. I've always found Paiste 2002's to be the most sound quality consistent, but i currently have a motley collection of Zildjians and I like them alot.

  • @codys_shelf
    @codys_shelf 9 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Love the sound of the unpolished AA around 8 minutes. Hopefully they will release a line that mimics that sound.

  • @unngabungaa
    @unngabungaa 11 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    RIP Bob Zildjian. Thank you for leaving us with your legacy.

  • @drummercarson896
    @drummercarson896 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    My favorite Cymbals

  • @21kpatriot
    @21kpatriot 11 ปีที่แล้ว

    We will all miss you Robert Zildjian! Hopefully your people will carry on your fine cymbal making so we always have you with us!

  • @samithmordraus20
    @samithmordraus20 8 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    God bless Canada

  • @ArnieJames666
    @ArnieJames666 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I've always been all over the place with cymbals, soultone ride, aax crash on the left, paiste 2002 crash on the right, and zildjian quick beat hi hats. Somehow, it works. But I had a 22" aax metal ride for 15 years before it cracked right under the bell. Best, longest lasting cymbal I ever had. I'd love to find another one some day.

  • @Bob-nu3xe
    @Bob-nu3xe 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great video great cymbals many thanks

  • @briangallagher9899
    @briangallagher9899 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    thanksgiving must be fun at the Zildjian house with the brothers ! !

  • @mrbucket75
    @mrbucket75 10 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Im always curious if any of these guys play for recreation at home. Seems like they have a love for it and would like to try what they do at home. Seems like a great job if they do....

  • @sappermade6012
    @sappermade6012 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great product !

  • @mustangfan1995
    @mustangfan1995 13 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    i actually went there for a class trip last week for music class, it actually pretty interesting

  • @markhealey3660
    @markhealey3660 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Love these cymbals. AA, AAX, HH, HHX, Paragon, Radia, Vault, Mike Portnoy Max Stax, I play these lines. Favorite cymbals lines, Paragon and HH.

  • @ASpoonfulOfJimmy
    @ASpoonfulOfJimmy 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    The cymbal lathing looks amazing

  • @LostInAce
    @LostInAce 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Awesome!

  • @Burps___
    @Burps___ 6 ปีที่แล้ว +35

    Bet these guys cook a mean pizza!! 🍕

    • @axismc33
      @axismc33 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I will eat a bronze pizza👍😂

  • @JordanDormer
    @JordanDormer 13 ปีที่แล้ว

    I love that The Rev is in the background in one of the rooms

  • @bbierstedt
    @bbierstedt 10 ปีที่แล้ว +26

    I had no idea that cymbals were that labor intensive. You really get your moneys worth.

    • @christopherdunn317
      @christopherdunn317 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thats why they cost 400 to 500 and up these guys an not min wage.

    • @tysonrinker5958
      @tysonrinker5958 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      It's crazy right?

  • @davidfriesen7748
    @davidfriesen7748 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great Product !!

  • @karlloseduardosouzaigino4908
    @karlloseduardosouzaigino4908 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    Sempre será minha eterna paixão...

  • @mylesjarvis7571
    @mylesjarvis7571 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    I can't imagine hand hammering on cymbals for 25 years!! Incredible!

  • @Burps___
    @Burps___ 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    Video is a superb reminder that no two cymbals are precisely the same, even within the same model, so try several to see which is most pleasing to your ear. 👂

  • @TrashMojo
    @TrashMojo 12 ปีที่แล้ว

    i love sabian, have since day one of drumming, but i do agree with you meinl are doing some incredible things, i do rather enjoy the sound of their classic custom line,

  • @Ytsejam729
    @Ytsejam729 9 ปีที่แล้ว

    the Groove Ride is one of the best cymbals i have ever heard

  • @OllieBonugli
    @OllieBonugli 10 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    16:30 the posters on the top right, the furthest left is The Rev:)

    • @zamek4744
      @zamek4744 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      And Tomas Haake

  • @85Aheadstix
    @85Aheadstix 12 ปีที่แล้ว

    I LOVE SABIAN!.

  • @omegapryo
    @omegapryo 12 ปีที่แล้ว

    the lathing process blew my mind

  • @devilsoffspring5519
    @devilsoffspring5519 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Electric guitars and basses, on the other hand, can pretty much be inexpensively mass-produced to very high quality standards using computer controlled machine tools. This stuff is *work!!*

  • @bennyboney
    @bennyboney 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I got my first sabian cymbals (used) for free. They came from a closed down whorehouse in oslo.. loved the sound and still have them 20 years after ..

  • @Lakk6Metal
    @Lakk6Metal 6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Im so curios why there isnt a viewing on how they make Chinas or Gongs, how they make different percussions and so on. Crashes, splashes and rides are shown yes. But the other aint. Why ? . Kevin , drummer from Norway.

  • @drumstudio2000
    @drumstudio2000 10 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I have both zildjian and sabían and sound really great. So muy congrats to these two companies but... still its rare to see bob zildjian promoting a sabían brand... lol. What do u think about it guys?

    • @EarosioN
      @EarosioN 10 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      rob zildjian founded sabian after a family dispute
      know your stuff

    • @FanaticDrummer
      @FanaticDrummer 8 ปีที่แล้ว

      He founded Sabian. He also used the first two letters of his kids names to make the name Sabian. In the company break up, Sabian got all the original artisans. Thats why Sabian surpassed Zildjian in quality and experience for hand hammered products. Zildjian had to train a new factory of noobs lol.

    • @DS-wo8wr
      @DS-wo8wr 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Actually, Robert got the Canada plant that then produced the Zildjian K Series.
      The US plant that then produced the Zildjian A Series remained in Zildjian hands...

  • @tabaldak5184
    @tabaldak5184 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    100% the best

  • @friedpickles342
    @friedpickles342 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Only sabian I've used thus far is a 15 inch hhx studio crash. Sounds good to me. But doesn't cut through in live gigs. I use my zildjian a medium crashes. 16 n 17 inch.

  • @tscoffey1
    @tscoffey1 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    9:54 - And that guy keeps a better time on that cymbal than I ever would.

  • @samm1809
    @samm1809 13 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    "and that means ANYTHING that was on the market." man, talk about a grudge.

    • @cristiankyler5228
      @cristiankyler5228 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      sorry to be so off topic but does anybody know a trick to get back into an instagram account??
      I stupidly lost the account password. I appreciate any help you can give me!

    • @dariotitan510
      @dariotitan510 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @Cristian Kyler instablaster =)

  • @davidcaro8217
    @davidcaro8217 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Charlie Brown's right arm has got to be jacked up by now!

  • @MrJCTroutman
    @MrJCTroutman 7 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I want a complete setup hand picked from Area 51!

  • @jayhiliard3598
    @jayhiliard3598 11 ปีที่แล้ว

    i love sabian cymbals

  • @JoshGarsideMeyers
    @JoshGarsideMeyers 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Good to see Charlie Brown is keeping busy these days.

  • @rubendariomoran051
    @rubendariomoran051 8 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    con razón cuestan caros pero son muy buenos platos

  • @kwamebrown5547
    @kwamebrown5547 8 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    The rev at 17:45 in the background;)

  • @jorgesoroamusic
    @jorgesoroamusic 11 ปีที่แล้ว

    Very nice. the Sabian the best...

  • @paulswang6428
    @paulswang6428 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thank you for sharing this used to be a hidden craft, even so the secret of the musical inglet is not opened yet. So, this is the Canadian factory? Cheers!

  • @garoshamirian
    @garoshamirian 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Can I have mine with pepperoni and olives and a bit well done please?

  • @MrSir2552
    @MrSir2552 9 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    16:14 They have a Jimmy poster. That makes me happy. :)

    • @kwamebrown5547
      @kwamebrown5547 8 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Brings a tear to my eye:'(

  • @drakausdromgatti58
    @drakausdromgatti58 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hell of a mark up

  • @enjoichoclate5
    @enjoichoclate5 12 ปีที่แล้ว

    tilt your cymbals toward you when your crashing on a cymbal try to hit the body of the cymbal instead of the edge because that's where they split also don't tighten them down tightly I don't have mine tightened at all no felt at the top just the wing nut sure you don't have to do that if you don't want too but try to loosen it up as much as possible because when you restrict a cymbal when you hit it ends up flexing way too much thus cracking or splitting

  • @rudyarteaga7625
    @rudyarteaga7625 11 ปีที่แล้ว

    thank you for my aaxs especially my 10 splash and my 19 paragon china :)

  • @shonnyno
    @shonnyno 8 ปีที่แล้ว

    I am interested in hand cymbals only, but its very very hard to find
    good hand cymbals :( I like hand cymbals of ERT Orchestra and Arena
    Verona, but no idea about model and size. :(

  • @RaelThomas
    @RaelThomas 10 ปีที่แล้ว

    He was the founder, yes. There was a family qualm between brother and thus Zildjian split in two. Read the Sabian wiki page.

  • @dimidomo7946
    @dimidomo7946 7 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I must have missed it...how are the Zildjian and Sabian names related or tied together? Is Bob Zildjian related to the other Turkish cymbal smiths?

    • @nickymooncymbals
      @nickymooncymbals 7 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Dimi Domo Yes...Bob Zildjian is (was, sadly...he has passed away) of the Zildjian cymbal making family and used to be a big part of the company until a disagreement led to a split where he took over the Canadian facility and started Sabian.

  • @21kpatriot
    @21kpatriot 11 ปีที่แล้ว

    I hear ya man! but if you were in the testing vault, it could be a cymbal stand and you could test faster that way! But you'd have to sanitize them before sending them out! A great cymbal sound can be orgasmic. Imagine the caution signs in that section of the plant!

  • @francescopiccolo4135
    @francescopiccolo4135 10 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    22:04 czechoslovakia??????
    how old is this video?

  • @Blaze22F
    @Blaze22F 11 ปีที่แล้ว

    I could watch the logo stamping all day long

  • @jayhilliard6109
    @jayhilliard6109 11 ปีที่แล้ว

    I agree

  • @ChickenThug55
    @ChickenThug55 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    So where are all the toppings? I see lots of pizzas being taken out of the oven!

  • @DrummingNonStop
    @DrummingNonStop 12 ปีที่แล้ว

    This is why Sabian is the best.

  • @tonypascale5317
    @tonypascale5317 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Sabian is the best sounding cymbal

  • @Bigmike3406E
    @Bigmike3406E 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    I have Sabian on my Ludwig double base outa plus kit . Blue vistalite kit

  • @omegapryo
    @omegapryo 12 ปีที่แล้ว

    I chuckled alittle bit when he said his name :D

  • @keauxgeigh
    @keauxgeigh 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    I have a Phil's Choice ride. It's a lot darker than the rides he used with Genesis (I think he wasn't in Genesis when it came out), but don't care, it has his signature on it and is still a quality ride.

  • @zxhypnos7630
    @zxhypnos7630 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    17:36 a poster of the rev on the back!!

  • @MarceloRezende75
    @MarceloRezende75 11 ปีที่แล้ว

    what do they do with rejected cymbals on quality control process?

  • @ConnorJohnGriffin
    @ConnorJohnGriffin 11 ปีที่แล้ว

    Yeah, Sabian was started by Robert Zildjian after Armand and him got in an argument. They use the exact same 'secret alloy' as well.

  • @GeneralPoppers
    @GeneralPoppers 11 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    They have a poster of The Rev in the background :')